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Jackanda1:
Hello, sometime ago, i postd about havng anxiety problems which has affected me in the work place.

So after series of strugles, i had tot abt a lot of self help options including alcohol, cigaretes, and other drugs until i have enough funds to visit a mental health cnter.

Somethng in my head keeps telling me to ask for prayers, i ignored it for some time until on monday when i calld someone to Pray for me.

On tuesday, nothing changed, i was still timid and anxious. We usually hold a 20min prayr and preachng session evry morning.

Any staff can be pickd to preach and pray, i startd avoidng going early so i'm not told to lead, other times, i try alcohol. There had been times were anxiety messd me up in front of co-staffs.

On wednesday, When i got to work sumtin strange happend...I walkd to the prayr room feelng no anxiety atall, i was shockd and excitd at the same time. Anothr suprise is that i was told to preach, which i did without feeling anxious atall, i can nw discus with staff without any fear.....

Halleluyah

bro, i am the psychiatrist.

Whats your certifications sire

sukkot:
you need one more than I do. That’s why I asked you why you named yourself jaephoenix. You people just give yourself names without knowing what it means and end up cursing yourself in the process. That name is bringing a curse on you hence why you are out in these nairaland streets acting like an irrational destroyed bird. The name JAEPHOENIX means TRANSITION TO DESTRUCTION meaning you are a destroyed entity. Which is the curse on you and your nairaland persona and a diagnostic symptom of a destroyed soul is being pugnacious and emotional on a faceless forum. So you fit your name to a T lmao

Whoa. I'm honored

Jashub:
See selective reasoning...why didn't you quote Saladdin ? Why didn't you quote the annals of Sahbis and see what they themselves said ? Or should I reference it for you ?

Did you even read what I posted?

terrezo2002:
Defects in children born are caused by many factors. It could be drugs usage, lack of proper health care, abortion drugs, etc. .
Every human was created by God.

Which abortion drug causes birth defects?

terrezo2002:
Okay. According to your belief, how did humans come into existence?

We don't know. Lots of theories abound. But I'd rather believe that, than believing lies

TenQ:
I don't blame him,
1. He has never been used by God for anything, therefore he doesn't believe in miracles
2. Some of the charlatans parading themselves as pastors have with their lifestyles make unbelievers and especially JW skeptical of every true miracle
3. Even amongst true believers, miracles is not meant for personal consumption even though it happens. The more we are outdoors preaching the Word, the more Gods miracles get given through ALL his Children and especially through those that have received the grace.


For the JW:
If the foundation DOESN'T exist, nothing feasible can be built on it. They don't even know Jesus, it's not surprising that Christ never work through them

Do u have evidence of any miracle?

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ wisdom is justified by her children, i know you're seriously disturbed that a religionist could prove to be smarter and much more intelligent than you. Well i will love it if you don't feel offended by our wisdom because that will make you a terrorist in disguise. If someone doesn't agree with you that shouldn't make you attack him it's a free world where people live with different mindsets so my guy live and let live!

MadMax smarter than me?

MaxInDHouse:
It's about exaggeration nah!
JWs are people like you and i who have been in one shameful habit or another before they heard what convinced them about an organization of God's people so if they decide to join that isn't a guarantee that their former habits will vanish instantly, NO! Each will have to start fighting within himself or herself {Romans 7:15-25} how to leave it behind so as to fit in to the personality they're trying to build! Ephesians 4:22-24
But when churchgoers who were taught that it's automatic transformation as soon as they become Christians now see any JW fall back to his or her sinful flesh they will start to carry the story even add to it as if that's what the organization approves.

If you don't have JWs around you then you can't conclude yet remember as an atheist you don't believe in the existence of God because you never seen any but you have been HEARING people talking about God all around you!

The difference is evidence! Hard verifiable data.
The news about JW mol@station has been carried by several top level news sources, and guess what, your group don't deny it. Do you know what they do? They settle out of court. No innocent person settles cases out of court

Jashub:
You're confused and ignorant. It's a known fact that the early muslims died fighting for the spread of Islam , not the ideology. This is contrary to what the early Christians died for, and as for the other group you mentioned I can be my last dime they died for the spread of of whatever nonsense they believed .

Ignoramus, many theists died for their religion, and not just christians. A simple Google search woulda cured you, but you decided to disturb us.
Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu martyrs exist. And they preferred to die for their gods than renounce them. An example is this a Shaheed. It is an Arabic name for a Muslim martyr
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaheed#:~:text=A%20Muslim%20who%20is%20killed,the%20defence%20of%20their%20nation.

elated177:
Why are you dodging the question?

Because Yahweh has a favorite pastime of wanking while watching over us

terrezo2002:
That means you mean your creator are your parents right?

Yup

terrezo2002:
Which God created you?

None

gohf:
even the physical blind can see it

Ok

gohf:
I have said the same thing to you over and over again but to you it feels like going round and round because your state is like a blind man groping the walls still not finding his way despite the light shining

And you're worse. You see the truth and hide from it

gohf:
didn't you read where I wrote, let me write it again since you are forgetful, Morality and righteousness that comes from God does not change. If you like agree if you like don't agree. Men are still free to create their own form of morality and righteousness, or even self righteous. Whatever men create is only a copy of what they have seen

And I replied with posts where I explained where the Bible changed morality more times than a whorre changes customers

Jashub:
Please add Tacitus, the Bible and over 500 people who were martyred . That should be about 503. And that number is good enough for evidence in any court of law

Actually, Tacitus was the historian I mentioned, and the Bible is just another fairy tale book, and 500 martyred don't mean shit. You can as well say Qoran, Veda are legit books because some thousands of Muslims and Hindus were martyred because of it

gohf:
oh I am sorry forgive me. Didn't know your ancestor was a great ape and not a mere monkey

Says a man who has a tail
Jokes on you bro

Image123:
There's nothing contradictory about Jesus in the Bible. Ask God to open your eyes of understanding.

Is Jesus god?

gohf:
see what I am saying how does me reading the bible give you a right to teach scripture or speak about the intent of it.

Here is what I asked you
And who are you to know or say what it teaches and doesn't teach?

There have been devils, demons and agents who have claimed what scripture taught and there are those trained to understand what is written.

You can here claiming the Bible promotes slavery, when the God of the same people recorded in the book delivered his people from slavery. Sent his servants to delivery the people from slavery to sin.

How do you live with yourself lying about things you know little about. Does it give you joy or what

* Ephesians 6:5, “Slaves obey your earthly masters with respect and fear and sincerity of heart, just as you would show to Christ.”

Here the Bible says for slaves to obey their master as if he was God himself.

* 1 Timothy 6:1, “All who are under the yoke of slavery should regard their masters as fully worthy of honour, so that God’s name and our teaching will not be discredited.”

In this verse God says that slaves should honour their masters in the name of God.

* Exodus 21:1, “Now these are the ordinances which you shall set before them. When you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve six years, and in the seventh he shall go out free, for nothing. If he comes in single, he shall go out single; if he comes in married, then his wife shall go out with him. If his master gives him a wife and she bear him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall be her master’s and he shall go out alone. But if the slave plainly says, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free,’ then his master shall bring him to God, and he shall bring him to the door or the doorpost; and his master shall bore his ear through with an awl; and he shall serve him for life.”

Here God (and those who knocked the Bible together) describes how to become a slave for life, and shows that it is completely acceptable to separate slaves from their families. God also shows that he completely endorses the branding of slaves through mutilation.

* Exodus 21:7, “If a man sells his daughter into slavery, she will not go out the way male slaves do.”

In this verse, the God of the Christians allows for a father to sell his own children into slavery. Very noble indeed.

* Exodus 21:20, “If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.”

Not only does the God of the Christians condone slavery, but he is also completely comfortable with the concept of beating your slaves with, as long as you don’t kill them.


* Leviticus 19:20, “If a man lies sexually with a woman who is a slave, assigned to another man and not yet ransomed or given her freedom, a distinction shall be made. They shall not be put to death, because she was not free.”

Here the Christian God says it’s alright for men to have sex with slave woman in which would not be considered as rape because the slave woman has no rights so the man will not be punished.

* Exodus 21:32, “If the bull gores a male or female slave, the owner must pay thirty shekels of silver to the master of the slave, and the bull must be stoned.”

Here, not only does the Christian God condone slavery, but here God places a value on slaves as 30 shekels of silver.

* Leviticus 25:44, “Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.”

Here the Bible clearly states where you can purchase your slaves, and also specifies that slaves are property to be bought, sold and handed down. Isn’t that glorious?

* 1 Peter 2:18, “Servants be subject to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the unjust.”

In this verse, the Bible says to respect all masters, even the unjust ones. Beatings are alright as long as the slave is not killed.

* Deuteronomy 21:10, “When you go forth to battle against your enemies, and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands, you may carry them away as captive into slavery.”

In this verse, the Christian Bible says that the losers of a battle may be taken hostage as slaves.

* Deuteronomy 23:15, “You shall not give up to his master a slave who has escaped from his master to you.”

Here God says that whoever has the slave owns the slave and doesn’t address why the slave ran away in the first place even if from brutality.

* Titus 2:9, “Bid slaves to be submissive to their masters and to give satisfaction in every respect; they are not to be refractory, nor to pilfer, but to show entire and true fidelity.

Once again, the Bible and their God in it, shows that he is quite in love with the idea and practice of slavery.

So are the above verses in your holy book, or did I fabricate them?

Jashub:
Keep quiet you don't know anything . What your comrade did was punch up a slothful induction fallacy, and you're busy supporting what's not even logically valid to the argument. Before you type more rubbish , kindly look up what's called The slothful induction fallacy.

Before you type up any more, read up on fallacies

gohf:
Number 1 you said if, and Jesus isn't Yahweh. You were expecting me to counter sorry to disappoint you, my response was the best answer for you. And I never said morals came from gods.

There's no point having a conversation with someone who isn't following the discuss nor remembers correctly what was written. I am not offended by you just disinterested in discussing with someone that seems to be talking with someone else. Honestly your posts are disjointed.

You haven't answered any of my questions have you? You came up with an illusions that I am offended by you mentioning gods I don't care about.

The only point you have made is to disagree with me that God Almighty didn't teach morals to the first man, because you believe you originated from monkeys. Since that's what you absolutely believe stop wasting your time asking questions you don't want the answers to. And live the life you believe in

After all you are free to live and die forever, its your life not mine

All the questions you asked have been answered but you deployed your regular deflection tactics used by your predecessors. So I'm not surprised.
You haven't addressed any of the points I raised. Even the point I raised about morality change in the buybull was ignored.
So have a nice day, bro

gohf:
if it's the truth would you accept it if it goes against what you believe

Why not?

Jashub:
The usual array of insults has started when atheists can't find answers ...typical

Which question did you ask? Obviously you haven't known some theists here that are chief insult merchants

Jashub:
But Jesus existed ...and that's a fact other historians and have established.

One historian made a sentence about a Jesus, and boom it becomes that's a fact other historians and have established
Lol

Image123:
So if he says he doesn't just believe God exists but knows God exists, you'll give him icecream?

Quit parambulating

Jashub:
It seems you don't understand the word fallacy . Please rededicate yourself on it and stop supporting literal rubbish

I know more about fallacies than you bro. Invent another dodge mechanism

Jashub:
It seems you're not following the thread but I'll update you on it.

Josephus and Tacitus (two non-christian historians) admitted in their annals , that a man called Jesus existed . These men were known to be neither biased or religious in their accounts of historical facts . Which makes the validity of Jesus's existence true . Besides that's, other eyewitness accounts from the Bible verify the truth of the man Jesus .

So I don't see the connection here between New York and Spiderman .

I just showed you Josephus's account was faked. And Tacitus used a sentence to describe Jesus. For all we know, it may be another Jesus since its a common name.
Besides those accounts doesn't justify anything about the deification of Jesus. That means he was a common regular folk, not a god like y'all say. The only place he was deified was your bible

Jashub:
I don't understand this rubbish you just typed. But I'll humor you and give another chance to arrange your argument in a logical manner

Its an analogy he gave.
In the Spiderman comic series, he's supposed to live in New York. So he's saying that he came try to convince you Spider-man existed by saying New York existed

Jashub:
Our focus was on his existence ...not miracles nor His divinity. Which brings me to my point : Jesus did exist , and if he did , then the bible's account must be true. Therefore, it will be foolishness not to believe in the existence of a God. It's as simple as that

Lol. Doesn't it bother you or sound odd that the only non-bible mention of yahweh and jesus, the creator of the world, the man that resurrected people and even resurrected from the dead, was a sentence?
If someone performed miracles and even resurrected from the dead, do you think its only one newspaper that would carry that news?
Lol. christians are a special brand of stupid. A severe type of psychosis

gohf:
is that really the question, if it is true and not if the answer is acceptable to you?

Whether I accept it or not is irrelevant. What's relevant is if its the truth

gohf:
1. Which sinner saw him?
2. Writing together a bunch doesn't mean it's a sensible sentence. If you had any understanding you would have known Jesus didn't tell them not to stone her. Just like the rest of your other assumptions it shows you speak more on things you know little about and you neither listen to answers of questions you claim to ask.
3. Are you not so fixated on your twisted logic that you would even deny the very God that did not command human sacrifice but condemned so gods and demons that did, abolishing the nonsense men practiced in their search for power.


Morality and righteousness that comes from God does not change. If you like agree if you like don't agree. Men are still free to create their own form of morality and righteousness, or even self righteous. Whatever men create is only a copy of what they have seen

1. If Jesus is Yahweh, then its obvious the sinners he healed saw him. Question is, as a Christian, have you seen Yahweh?
2. If you can read properly I said stoning adulterers is okay in the old testament. Did I lie? In the new testament, Jesus didn’t tell them not to stone but he didn't allow them to stone an adulterous but he advocated forgiveness, reason why he said 'he without sin should throw the first stone'. Did your Yahweh advocate for forgiveness when he made commandments to stone adulterers? No! Is that not a morality paradigm shift?
I realized you didn't even counter any of the points I made, you just said i comment on what I know nothing about, without stating specifically what was wrong. That's a deflection technique y'all theists exhibit.
3. You just said morals came from many gods, didnt you? So why get offended when I mentioned some of them?
By the way, which god demanded Abraham offer his son as sacrifice? Baal? Allah?
We didn't say morals didn't come from your yahweh, but the point was it was dynamic, relative and of course, wasn't the only source of morals