FxMasterz: Moses couldn't have known about the Creation, Babel, Abraham, Isaac, Ismael, Lot, Sodom and Gomorrah, and all the stories he talked about except by divine revelation.
He was growing up as an Egyptian Prince in Pharaohs palace before God brought in events that redirected his life.
They were all written by humans. And if it was divine inspiration, how come there was confusion and inconsistencies?
FxMasterz: Evidence of the Biblical Stories of Sodom and Gomorrah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhTjEbNgTQM In the heart of the Middle East, a team of archaeologists had been digging for years, hoping to uncover the remains of ancient civilizations buried deep beneath the sands. But they never expected to find what they did.
One day, as they were excavating a site near the Dead Sea, they stumbled upon what appeared to be the ruins of an ancient city. As they dug deeper, they uncovered more and more evidence of a thriving civilization that had existed thousands of years ago.
The team soon realized that they had discovered the lost city of Sodom and Gomorrah, the infamous cities that were destroyed by God in the Old Testament. It was an incredible discovery, one that would change the course of history.
As they continued to explore the ruins, the archaeologists found evidence of a highly advanced society that had once thrived in the area. They discovered sophisticated buildings, complex irrigation systems, and intricate artwork and carvings.
But as they dug deeper, they also found evidence of the city's downfall. The walls of the buildings were charred and blackened, and the remains of its inhabitants showed signs of a violent and sudden death. It was clear that the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah had been swift and devastating.
The discovery of Sodom and Gomorrah was a turning point in the history of the Middle East. It was proof that there had been thriving civilizations in the area long before the rise of modern-day nations, and it shed new light on the biblical stories that had been passed down through the ages.
As the archaeologists continued to study the ruins, they uncovered even more secrets about the lost city. There was the Pillar of salt which the Bible recorded to be Lot's wife. More astonishing was the evidence of burning sulphur which the Bible recorded to be the very substance Yahweh rained from heaven to burn off the cities. The archeologies tested the pieces of sulphur found on the site and found that its components differed from any form of sulphur found anywhere in the world, attesting to its likely heavenly origin.
This discovery provided evidential proofs of the existence of God, His power and His ability to do judgement. This further brings another proof that the Bible is indeed the Word of God, and that the stories in it are the truth.
This discoveries have laid to rest the arguments regarding this mysterious Bible story which we can now agree to be true history.
I just wasted my time watching this clips. And right thinking and literate folks actually believe these garbage. Imagine, no evidence of any hailstones. In fact the exact location of the place is even conjectural. I did my research(not dubious youtube videos) and found this
Sodom and Gomorrah are possibly located under or adjacent to the shallow waters south of Al-Lisān, a former peninsula in the central part of the Dead Sea in Israel that now fully separates the sea’s northern and southern basins. They presumably were devastated about 1900 BCE by an earthquake in the Dead Sea area of the East African Rift System, an extensive geologic rift extending southward from the Jordan River valley in Israel to the Zambezi River system in eastern Africa. Archaeological evidence indicates that the area was once fertile, in the Middle Bronze Age (c. 2000–c. 1550 BCE), with fresh water flowing into the Dead Sea in sufficient amounts to sustain agriculture. Because of the fertile land, Lot selected the area of the cities of the Valley of Siddim (the Salt Sea, or Dead Sea) to graze his flocks. When the catastrophic destruction occurred, the petroleum and gases existing in the area probably contributed to the imagery of “brimstone and fire” that accompanied the geological upheaval that destroyed the cities. Har Sedom (Arabic: Jabal Usdum), or Mount Sodom, at the southwestern end of the sea, reflects Sodom’s name. The present-day industrial site of Sedom, Israel, on the Dead Sea shore, is located near the presumed site of Sodom and Gomorrah. Source https://www.britannica.com/place/Sodom-and-Gomorrah/Religious-views In fact Lots wife that was said to have turned to salt was just another wild goose chase. I watched all the video and instead of the pillar of salt they promised, they pointed to a nondescript rock. Now what fuckery is that? Theists are a special brand of stupid
Techobeys: No I’m not aware. I think there’s only human error in relating message bc of different witnesses but the main story remained consistent. And that’s all matters bc the wisdom is berried within the story and not the dates or names.
colored: I am atheist and I'm very confident that if I ever went back to religion, it won't be the christian cult. I think of myself a person of better morals and character than the bible god. The bible god is the most despicable character I have encountered in literature. A tyrant, an obsessive narcissist, a megalomaniac, bloodthirsty, pompous, arrogant and proud of it, jealous and proud it, sexist and misogynistic, ablestic and tribalistic, psychopathic and devoid of empathy, nepotistic and partial and proud of it. I read the bible and wonder how Christians are able to love that bible god but then as someone who has been a Christian I realize how the love fake. A love borne out of fear. The Stockholm syndrome slave master and slave kind of love.
Many people are theists cos they are afraid of hell(or whatever they threaten them with) and not because they love their respective gods
BRATISLAVA: Ask any atheist. Most of them were christians facing problems that prayers never solved.
The accusatory attitude of other christians doesn't help. Someone tells them his life is miserable and has been since kindergarten, and the best thing they can come up with us that he's not a real Christian, that he's a sinner, that he's not been praying to God. Excuses for God, as if any of them know why God doesn't answer him
I think the OP has tried all that is believed to be the silver bullet of Christianity, and it hasn't worked.
Blatant lie. A bleeped up stereotype theists put on atheists. It's so stupid and myopic. Who told you that's how atheists came up?
BRATISLAVA: As I said, none of you here understand the guy. As such, this is just a back and forth of misdiagnoses from religious folk who think they know everything that happens in people's lives. Your approach to people life issues results in atheism. Most atheists were born this way.
Ask him if anything I've said about his predicament isn't true. He's here. Ask him.
I would recommend he drops all the religion and stops listening to religious accusers. Call it frustrations or whatever you may. You don't understand anything he's said.
NNTR: You reckon, everyone's as obtuse as you are, not to understand the term
If there weren't, whats questioning with the memories of what I know I wrote, and trying to change and misrepresent it. Hmm?
It means, bar massaging your ego, I see no value in, you requiring me, to believe you, or even responding to your ' I hope you believed me' narcissism.
I see no value in giving you a Yes or No answer
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
If you see no value in giving me a yes or no, then that defaults to a no answer. But I see you're the slippery type, and believe me, I don't like debating with your kind.
MaxInDHouse: JEHOVAH isn't using force {Zechariah 4:6} so it is not expected to gain majority worshipers in fact Buddhists and Hindus have the greater number but the point is they will NOT SPEAK (be known with their preaching, teaching and activities) they will NOT HAVE LOVE JOY and PEACE (despite forcing their opinion on people they themselves will not be organized as they will continue to wage wars against themselves)
So what has islamists been telling you that has given you any reason to argue with them? Or what Islamic group have you seen that's peacefully working together as one family of faith in their God?
That's what JEHOVAH promised about His own worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3
Lol. You're such a self-important person. If you read the history of Christianity you'll see the Crusades, Inquisition, Witch Trials where millions were threatened so as to convert them to Christianity, some killed because they refused to convert. Do you think there would be growth of christianity and thus birth of your precious JW if Emperor Constantine didn’t slaughter the Moors and thus export christianity to the Anglo Saxons who eventually brought it to Nigeria? All that blood and tears was for expansion of Christianity. If he didn't do it, the Arabs would have taken over, and more people in the world population would be Muslims. And of course, you'll be a Muslim, banging your head and disturbing us here about Allah being the greatest.
Barims: What do you expect when you are talking to something that only exist in your brain? What do you expect when you talk to ceiling Start working, don't pray. It's has been shown in studies that it's make things worse as it makes you relax while you wait for nothing to happens
Its a logical conclusion to arrive that no god exists, with these kind of scenarios OP describes. But they won't see it
Jehovah God is the “Hearer of prayer.” (Psalm 65:2) We can speak to him anywhere and at any time, aloud or silently.
Jehovah wants us to address him as “Father,” and he really is the best Father we can have. (Matthew 6:9) Lovingly, Jehovah teaches us how to pray and be heard by him.
PRAY TO JEHOVAH GOD IN THE NAME OF JESUS
“If you ask the Father for anything, he will give it to you in my name.”—John 16:23.
Jesus’ words clearly show that Jehovah wants us to pray to him, not through images, saints, angels, or departed ancestors, but in the name of Jesus Christ.
When we pray to God in Jesus’ name, we show that we recognize the vital role of Jesus. “No one comes to the Father except through me,” said Jesus.—John 14:6.
SPEAK FROM THE HEART
“Pour out your hearts before him.”—Psalm 62:8.
When we pray to Jehovah, we should speak as we would to a loving father. Instead of reading out of a book or reciting something memorized, we should speak to him respectfully and from the heart.
PRAY IN HARMONY WITH GOD’S WILL “No matter what we ask according to his will, he hears us.”—1 John 5:14.
In the Bible, Jehovah God tells us what he will do for us and what he wants us to do for him. For our prayers to be acceptable to God, we need to pray “according to his will.” To do so, we need to study the Bible so that we can get to know him well. If we do, our prayers will be pleasing to him.
WHAT MIGHT WE PRAY FOR?
Pray for Your Needs. We can pray to God for our daily needs—food, clothing, and shelter. We might also pray for wisdom to make right decisions and for strength to endure our trials. We can pray for faith, for forgiveness, and for God’s help.—Luke 11:3, 4, 13; James 1:5, 17.
Pray for Others.
Caring parents are pleased when their children love one another. Jehovah too desires that his children on earth care about one another. It is appropriate to pray for our mate, our children, our family, and our friends. “Pray for one another,” wrote the disciple James.—James 5:16.
Express Thanks.
Of our Creator, the Bible says: “He did good, giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying you with food and filling your hearts with gladness.” (Acts 14:17)
When we think about all that God has done for us, we will be moved to express our thanks to him in prayer. Of course, we should also show our gratitude to God by the way we live.—Colossians 3:15.
BE PATIENT AND KEEP PRAYING
At times, we may feel disheartened because of not getting an immediate answer to our sincere prayers. Should we conclude that God is not interested in us? By no means!
The Bible records many of Jesus’ prayers. The best known is surely the one he taught his disciples. What can we learn from it?
The Lord’s Prayer—A Model for You
In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus gave his disciples a model prayer, often called the Lord’s Prayer. (Matthew 6:9-13; see also Luke 11:2-4.)
Over the centuries, this prayer has become so popular that many have memorized and repeated it word for word. Was that Jesus’ intention for this prayer? It hardly seems likely because earlier in that sermon, Jesus had told his disciples to avoid repetitive prayers. (Matthew 6:7)
Rather, Jesus was teaching his followers how to pray and what to pray about. Let us see what we can learn from the model prayer.
“Our Father in the heavens”
We should address our prayers only to God himself.
“Let your name be sanctified”
God’s name, Jehovah, should be honored and viewed as sacred.
“Let your Kingdom come”
God’s Kingdom is a heavenly government with Jesus as King, and it will soon exercise its rule over the entire earth.
“Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth”
God’s will is for humans to live forever on earth in peace and security.
“Give us today our bread for this day”
Jehovah is the one who provides the things we need to live.
“Forgive us our debts”
We all make many mistakes and need forgiveness.
Keeping those points in mind can help you to offer meaningful personal prayers.
How come the most religious nations are the more ignorant, poorer and backward nations? Why aren't their prayers answered? Since you have such good praying skills, why is your and Nigeria's life worse off than China, Czech etc with less prayer warriors? Please christians shouldn't dodge this question
NNTR: Already stop the gaslighting. You only be giving yourself undue and unnecessary distress because I gave no hint that I didnt believe you
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
1. Stop using terms you don't understand. There's no gaslighting going on here 2. Read your comment slowly, this time.
I fail to see what value is in there, needing to believe you What does this comment connote? For the avoidance of doubt, do you or do you not believe me? Yes or no
CaptMarvel: when a prisoner doesn't struggle to leave his Prison he have peace with his captors and remain a captive, but when he does struggles, troubles ensue, and if he continues victory is certain. Think about it.
Whoa. What an analogy. So the more a Christian fights the devil, he suffers, and keeps suffering everyday? But if he chills with the devil, he'll be enjoying? I love Christians. They are like kids that argue with the first notion that pops up in their mind anywhere
BRATISLAVA: You're going to hear a lot of excuses for why God doesn't answer you, and it will surprise these people that you are probably more holy than they are. Later they will tell you it isn't Gods time. At other times God doesn't answer the prayer of sinners.
There are just some people that God has never and will never answer their prayers, right from kindergarten as you've said. Just live your life as you can. God is for some people, not all.
Why create some people to suffer and use some random form of favoritism on creations? One day, you will get to see why. Maybe everything you read in the Bible is a lie.
MaxInDHouse: That's exactly what i've been telling you all these while!
If you're the most powerful human on planet earth you should have delegates throughout the world, Jehovah is the Almighty God that's why He made sure that His Witnesses are in all lands despite the fact that we don't use force!
“This is the word of Jehovah to Ze·rubʹba·bel: ‘“Not by a military force, nor by power, but by my spirit,” says Jehovah of armies. Zechariah 4:6
Those gods aren't real that's why they're helpless and their worshipers as you can see!
Not to us, O Jehovah, not to us, But to your name give glory Because of your loyal love and your faithfulness. Why should the nations say: “Where is their God?”Our God is in the heavens; He does whatever he pleases. Their idols are silver and gold, The work of human hands. A mouth they have, but they cannot speak; Eyes, but they cannot see; Ears they have, but they cannot hear; A nose, but they cannot smell; Hands they have, but they cannot feel; Feet, but they cannot walk; They make no sound with their throat. The people who make them will become just like them, As will all those who trust in them. Psalms 115:1-8
Are you aware there were periods in World History when polytheism was virtually everywhere, and there were no christians. I guess Jehova/Yahweh was second or even tenth fiddle to the then popular gods, right? Or he was cowering in a cave? Are you also aware that Christianity is waning by popularity globally, more so your JW business is dwindling, as evidenced by the sale of empty Kingdom Halls? Atheism and Islam are growing by the day, the former more than the later. Is your Yahveh aka Iehova getting more pussy? Logical reasoning isn't a strong point of theism. So its no use doing it. They fail woefully
Mccallistas: From my kindergarten till now, I have never went to God in prayer and that prayer got answered...
That one no dey bother me again cuz I know God no put me for His agenda. My problem be say anything wey I see for dream na opposite for real life. I dey for dream this early morning and Peter Obi win the election.
I don't know how to start crying. My prayers, God no dey ever answer am and my dream na opposite e dey do.
Congrats to Atiku then.
Even if Lucifer win for this country, anybody wey God wan bless e go bless am.
Techobeys: God himself preached the gospel to Adam. The commandments of God the gospel. The gospel are set of rules which one must follow to achieve life eternal and rest in God. So those laws God have to Adam, those are the gospel.
The only law was to not eat the fruit of Knowledge. Which other law was given
Techobeys: Of course anyone can write the bible. We have a list of books written by men who never experienced anything but were under influence of some drugs.
If it’s the truth, it has to be consistent with other books. The same story must be represented either in riddles or metaphor. Any book that comes out of the fray is a lie
Are you aware the bible is replete with lies, half truths and contradictions?
NNTR: Except you are a pathological attention seeker or have a histrionic personality disorder, I fail to see what value is in there, needing to believe you.
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
MaxInDHouse: So if Nairaland is a Nigerian forum but Jehovah the God of Israel is known here what happened to the Gods you're talking about? Jehovah is just as foreign like those other Gods so what made those other Gods helpless?
Those religions aren't represented here because we don't have many practitioners that are Nigerians. Is that too difficult to understand?
Christianity Etc › Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 12:48pm On Feb 27, 2023
