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Aemmyjah:
That's why you keep your ancestors in zoos or abandon them in the forests
Illiterate doctor wey no sabi anything

Bro, whats your point? I told you the wonders are still in existence. You're the one saying they're all gone except the pyramids. You well so?

Aemmyjah:
Any who does not accept any creator should accept that everything is an act of mindless chance. That is what fits you
Even the blind have 'seen' proofs but you are worse than the blind

If you say so

tctrills:
Religion has a place in our hearts and minds.

Lol.
I'm an atheist, and obviously don't use religion. What is the religion supposed to do for me?
Putting it succinctly, what are you gaining in religion that I'm not, apart from you losing money to your pastor every week?

Aemmyjah:
The universe just appeared by mindless chance

Remind me what you had in JAMB?
Someone asked you the proof of a creator and you replied that the universe appeared by mindless chance? Are you this daft?

Aemmyjah:
The ones which the pyramid of Egypt are also included

By the way, who made those pyramids

Evolution?
Apes?
Humans?

The Wonders of the world are still in existence, sire
The pyramids were made by humans, who are great ape descendants. Is there anything else you wanna know?

tctrills:
Yes religion does not require proof Science does. Both have their place.

What is the place of religions? What is its import to the society?

omonnakoda:
Did you ever meet Wilberforce? Did any of your family members? Is it not what THEY wrote that you are now parroting as if you were there. King George did XYZ .How do you know> The same Oyinbo na im talk am and the same you na im swallow am
Na them write the history no be us

Going by your assumption, we shouldn't believe history since the white man wrote it. So now dear sir, what should we teach ourselves and children as history?

tctrills:
Religion does not fit into any branch of science that should not be too complicated to accept or understand. We should not be teaching science and religion. That's not a problem.

Exactly. Religion isn't science. I didn't say its a branch of science.
My point is science depends on verifiable and reproducible facts, which is the opposite of religion. So they are parallel.
Though science is still not certain how we came here, it has established how we evolved through species.
Religion doesn't require proof by it's members or practitioners to believe

blueAgent:
As usual.

Who stopped slavery and why ?

King George the third and then William Wilberforce. Why the stopped slavery? That's a daft question. Its morally bad, they all knew it was bad but nobody had the guts and power to do anything. King George and Wilberforce could do much because they were king and politician, respectively.

ComeToJesus:
Omo! This comment is platinum standard. I laughed like wetin.

Bull's eye.

Having said that, there's always a God-shaped hole in every human that only God can fill. You come to a point that career and status doesn't really cut it for you any longer. You begin to long for the supernatural. At that point, it's no longer what mansions or cars or money any longer. It is the divine nudging for the Immanent.

Many successful and rich people are atheists or agnostics. From Elon Musk to Bill Gates etc. No god shaped rubbish anywhere

blueAgent:
Crap, it's obvious you don't read much.

Go and read about the history of human rights and you will find that Bible was the greatest inspiration.

Google about it magna carta

Like I predicted, you didn't even read my link. But you expect me to read yours?
Anyway, Magna Carta was used to commit crimes, and no, human rights didn’t get its origins from the Bible. It was started by Monsieur René Cassin, and he didn't involve the Bible. The Bible actually allowed slavery. Remember it told Israelites to kill babies and take captives as slaves. It even told slaves how to obey their masters. Nowhere did it castigate slavery

blueAgent:
So where do morals come from, if not from religeon?

Morals didn’t come from religion. Early humans used collaborative foraging to develop a new kind of cooperative reasoning that led them to treat others as equally deserving partners—that is, not just with sympathy but also with a sense of fairness. You can read up more if you are so inclined, though I don't think you would.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-origins-of-human-morality/

Aemmyjah:
Pained liar
Why not check the internet
Search the seven wonders of the world

I'm not refuting that Taj is a wonder and I agree it has a Maker. It did not just appear by itself unlike a fool that thinks the universe came by itself

1. This is a link explaining the Wonders and if they're still around
https://www.studyiq.com/articles/seven-wonders-of-the-world/
2. We're not debating about the origins of Taj Mahal, you slippery eel. I alluded to it because you said the Wonders of the world are no longer around

Aemmyjah:
Logic and facts gives reason to believe that there is an intelligence behind the designs in nature

Hellfire is a religious beliefs that is not in the Bible

Go and sleep

So where is the fact backing up your creation story? I need just one

tctrills:
No scientist do not need toix science with religion. Saying scientist ignore the bible is just like saying economist ignore the bible. The bible is neither a science or economic textbook. Each has its place.

Lemme break it down.
All branches of science ignore the input of the Bible. Examples…
Anthropology. It doesn't believe we were created from dust by a Supreme being. It accepts we evolved from other species.
Biology. It believes man is evolving from a different specie, and is still evolving(thus my topic)
Paleontology is studying the prehistoric life that existed prior to, and sometimes including, the start of the Holocene epoch. It includes the study of fossils to classify organisms and study their interactions with each other and their environments.
Etc etc
None of them is chasing after the Bible stories to study how he came about. None of them is going to check where the garden of Eden was. And definitely none of them would insert the Bible stories (or any religious stories) into the origin of man. Why? They have all been found to be lies and don't add up. The great flood don't add up. The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah has no historical backup. Some of the stories have been found to be lies.
I can go on, but unless this is a new thread, I'll have to stop

tctrills:
Ok your opinion

Its not my opinion but facts. That is why scientists ignore the bible or other Holy books.
If you're so obliged I can drop the verses here. Or better still, open a thread about it so more theists can critique it.

Aemmyjah:
Apes cannot use the internet

Lol. Is that all you can say? After your ignorance is exposed?

Aemmyjah:
Lol
What nonsense screenshot

You dropped false screenshot to prove there was no article about Nimrod
I dropped my screenshot about him

Now you lie he's just a city. A city becoming king and hunting animals?
You get problem bros

Why not ask Wiki

I followed your exact instructions, homie. You told me to go to BBC and type in those 2 words. And that was the hits I got. So don't blame me, blame your ignorance.
Also from your own screenshot, it's depicted Nimrod as a city not as a hunter
Your mental retardation is getting plain for all to see

Aemmyjah:
Check BBC
CHECK the internet if you really want to know
Google about Nimrod and stop asking stupid question

If I had seen such, would I be asking you. Also notice I actually checked BBC (as evidenced by my screenshot)

tctrills:
The bible

I'm not interested in what the Bible has to say about creation, or any topic, for that matter. Why? It contains debatable issues, condones misogyny, slaving, incest etc. Plus it lies and an unscientific . Worse still, its not backed by any shred of historical or archaeological data. So its not reliable.

tctrills:
But we did not come from apes so they can't be our cousins.
Unless you mean cousin in the sense that we share similarities.
One could even argue that there are very little differences between all marmals in general.

I posted links from scientists explaining how we came from the Great Ape. Where did it state we didn't come from apes?

Aemmyjah:
Again, hellfire is not a Bible teaching
People don't burn in hell

Hell is English
Hades is the Greek Word for hell
Shoel is the Hebrew word

They are have the same symbolic meaning as the common grave of mankind. Maybe your hellfire was a darwinian doctrine

I know they don't exist. Same as your heaven or god. But your fellow theist coined it and believe it.
I don't care either way. You're going to hell

Aemmyjah:
Liar
You know what I'm talking about when I mentioned that some are no longer existing and I mentioned that only the pyramids are surviving

The ones like the hanging gardens, Temple of artemis and the likes. Will you say they never existed?
Those are the SEVEN wonders of the world

Ignorant ape calling himself a doctor. Fatal doc

This is what you typed with your ignorant fingers

There are seven wonders of the world, maybe eight
Only the Egyptian pyramid is surviving

And I corrected you that they are pretty much around. And you went off in a tangent!
See being ignorant is one thing. Being arrogantly ignorant is another

tctrills:
So your point?

There's not much difference between apes and us. They're our distant cousins in the Great Ape family

Aemmyjah:
See this ape
Read the accounts and articles again and don't be a Fool
He had a city named after himself and you're behaving like a child
Are you sure you're not 4 year old?

Can you give me the links where they stated Nimrod had a city named after him?

tctrills:
Science does not believe man is an ape. The Group called primate is also know as great ape. Please get your facts right. Still, what is the difference between man and ape?

Yes , science believe we're apes.
Look at the taxonomy of humans in the screenshot

tctrills:
Clearly, you don't know the difference and you openly said men are apes which no scientist would agree with. So why don't you carefully read your links to see if you would finally understand the difference between man and ape.
You don't even need to be intelligent to observe that there is a striking difference between the image of an ape and that of man. Even a 3 years old knows that are different. So really, what is your point.

We descended from the Great Apes, not ape. Get my information right. If you understand taxonomy(or you read my links) it clearly stated humans and other primates make up the descendants of the Great Apes. So yes, scientists believe we are apes. I wonder why you say such things after perusing the articles. There's also the Lesser Apes, which are significantly different from the Greater Apes. So scientifically, apes are not a singular animals. Its a group, which includes humans

tctrills:
So not only did we evolve from apes but we are actually apes.
Again you are yet to mention the difference between humans and apes.
Oh sorry, there is no difference you actually think you are an ape. I get.

From those links(if you actually did read them) you can pick up the differences.

tctrills:
Lol, I knew you would go there but when you know the difference between man and ape we can discuss.
I guess you watch planet of the apes and you now think that it's real life.
As one who believe that humans evolved from apes, did they not teach you that the difference between man and ape is over 6 million years?
So clearly, you don't even understand evolution.
Please list very small differences between man and ape, that is if there is any. It seems you believe that Haman beings are basically apes.

Lets go.
Humans are actually apes.
We all descended from a family of Great Apes, millions of years ago.
https://australian.museum/learn/science/human-evolution/humans-are-apes-great-apes/

We gradually lost our tails and other appendages and gained some too, all thanks to evolution. Also dietary and environmental changes gave rise to loss of organs like appendices, and the above mentioned tails. We also share certain genes too
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_vestigiality

Due to the close genetic relationship between humans and the other great apes, certain animal rights organizations, such as the Great Ape Project, argue that nonhuman great apes are persons and should be given basic human rights. Twenty-nine countries have instituted research bans to protect great apes from any kind of scientific testing.

I could go on but these are apparently rudimentary knowledge but yet its almost unknown in these parts. People know the Bible and koran more than science. I didn't even apply my medical knowledge in imbibing these.

tctrills:
This is a serious discussion so forget the humor. If you can't tell the difference between a man and an ape then why this discussion.

Your command of English is obviously poor. Humor in this context doesn't necessarily mean comedy. It means engage me.
There is very little that differentiate us from apes. I betting your knowledge of anatomy and biology is good, before engaging in this argument. If not, I might as well stop. No use debating with another DTruthSpeaker, Maximus or Aemyjah

Dtruthspeaker:
The Law of hearsay evidence does not care who likes it and your insulting me just proves you have NO THING!

People resort to insults when they can not argue. Loser!

And I guess scientists use hearsays in their researches, right?

Dtruthspeaker:
Hear say evidence ape. Hearsay evidence. I do not accept hearsay evidence. I have already told you that hearsay evidence is no evidence. So you have NO THING ape !

Bro, those are government publications, scientific journals and international news outlet, and you say they're hearsay?
Lol
Bro, you're a wonderfully dumb theist. I think you just surpassed MadMax in the dumb world. They should create a dumb world and make you the king.
All hail King DTruthSpeaker