Christianity Etc › Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by jaephoenix(m): 12:51am On Dec 08, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: It is evolution theory that life emerged from cosmic soup that make sense to you. Did they give you the process either? Did they explain how life could emerge from non-life? Did they explain who or what caused the big bang? If the church had accepted the Bible, they wouldn't have persecuted Galileo but they chose to hold onto the philosophy A Bible writer who lived about 2700 years ago wrote that the earth is round and another wrote about 3500 years ago that the earth was hanging on nothing. The Evil Church that even tried to quench the Bible wanted to hold onto traditional scientific beliefs. Scientific theories change from time to time, Bible is not a science textbook and I wonder why you ask such funny question as if it will even help you anyways but what the Bible says regarding science has always been fact
3500 years ago Job gave an accurate description of the water cycle but it was understood by scientist in the 19th century. How did Job know?
3500 years ago, Job said the earth was hanging on nothing but it was until Isaac Newton time after an apple landed on his head that he could say that the earth had no fixed support, at first, he was ridiculed but today, we all know the Earth is like a ball hanging in space
2700 years ago, Isaiah wrote that the Earth was a circle, was there telescope those days for him to know when the popular belief was contrary, did he go to space to observe and took aerial photograph. Only about 200 or 300 years ago when Man could observe the earth from space was it established that the earth is round... Yet, some atheists who did not want to acknowledge the Bible say that the earth is not entirely spherical or circular. We understand their pain. The church was misrepresenting God, so don't use them to judge the Bible Can you quote those Bible passages and what they actually said? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by jaephoenix(m): 12:48am On Dec 08, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: Is that not a form of adaptation to environment? Some people are found in other environment with very high or very low temperatures Its mutation in these genes. CBARA1, VAV3, ARNT2 and THRB. They play a role in the HIF-1 pathway of hemoglobin. Below is an excerpt High-altitude adaptation in humans is an instance of evolutionary modification in certain human populations, including those of Tibet in Asia, the Andes of the Americas, and Ethiopia in Africa, who have acquired the ability to survive at altitudes above 2,500 meters. This adaptation means irreversible, long-term physiological responses to high-altitude environments, associated with heritable behavioural and genetic changes. While the rest of the human population would suffer serious health consequences, the indigenous inhabitants of these regions thrive well in the highest parts of the world. These people have undergone extensive physiological and genetic changes, particularly in the regulatory systems of oxygen respiration and blood circulation, when compared to the general lowland population. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by jaephoenix(m): 12:33am On Dec 08, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: Bro Max Good morning I was reading the yearbook of 2007 and found something interesting which I was moved to share on this forum It is on page 44 of the book
For those who doubt, the book can be read online in our website jw.org and it is on page 44. I will quote the paragraph.
Taiwan: Students at a primary school were asked to write an essay for an annual writing competition. the theme was my favourite book 10 year-old Weizhen wrote that the Bible was her favourite book. Besides commenting on the accuracy of Bible prophecy and the fine guidance God's word gives, she explained that the Bible has given her answers to questions that neither her teachers know nor her fellow students could answer satisfactorily. "Our teacher told us that man's ancestors evolved from monkeys" wrote Weizhen. "I thought to myself: 'if man descended from monkeys, should we not show them respectful devotion and feel heartfelt gratitude? So why do we lock them up in cages like zoos? Doesn't that make us guilty of serious wrongdoing?' But the Bible clearly answers: We have not in fact descended from monkeys. Rather our ancestors were created in God's image from the dust of the ground." She concluded her composition by writing "They said in ancient times, 'Reading a book is like opening a treasure chest.' IN my opinion, the Bible is more precious than gold. Consequently, this book is the one I love reading the most" Her composition won the first prize among entries submitted by middle school students, although she is only in the 4th grade. In relating her experience, she quotes Hebrews 4 Verse 12 and then says, I give all honour to Jehovah God."
What a fine, convincing witness from a 10 year old?! I'm not sure I'll have given such witness but see the questions she asked, see how she exposed the weaknesses of her teachers and co-students regarding evolution. See how she added more beauty to the Bible and presented logic yet, her essay came first Which other religion could have done that but they say we are a cult and we brainwash our children If they see a child with good manners, they praise him and his parents but if they see a child preaching or talking spiritual things, they condemn his parents I'm very sure that no one in that school or any other school in the world even tertiary school will make reference to any evolutionary book, rarely science books as his/her favorite no matter how the teacher brainwash them to accept evolution. If you read 2 evolutionary books, you'll see contradictions and confusion I'm proud of being a Jehovah's Witness. Yes, the Bible tells us the TRUTH about the formation of man. Man was created or made by an Intelligent Designer from the ground. That designer also lovingly gives us instructions in a manual (Bible) on how to life and enjoy life. Tell us where we come from, who we are, why we are here and where we are going as well as a future that gives hope. Evolution does not tell us where we come from and their answers make no sense, it does not tell us who we are (compares us to brute apes), has and can NEVER tell us why we are here or where we are going. The future science gives us to doom- cataclysmic doom, environmental 'armageddon', nuclear'armageddon', all kinds of Armageddon that will destroy life on earth and these things just makes our existence here meaningless and purposeless. Evolution is the biggest scientific, mythical, philosophical, fictional lie of all times. They will look for bones or skull, reconstruct it into a whole organisms by artist impression and proclaim 'We have found the missing link to out common ancestry with apes'
How young ones handle assignment, ministry, give a witness at school just amazes me but I'll also praise the parents cos it's not easy Other religions just keep aside Sunday school for them
This is the way, we'll walk in it I want to direct these questions to the 'smart kid' 1. So how did you arrive at the conclusion that it was Jehovah that created the earth out of the thousands of gods out there? 2. Where did the dinosaurs come from, since they didn't fit into Noah Ark? 3. Sorry, can you lets us know the evolution books that are contradictory? 4. Where did the skulls of the Neantherthals, H. Erectus come from? There are thousands of kids of other religions and atheists who excel even better than this kid. So don't gloat so much |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by jaephoenix(m): 8:52pm On Dec 07, 2022 |
Workch: You are wasting your time discussing science with maxindhouse As in, monumental waste of time. Science for him starts and ends in the Watchtower mag and Kingdom Hall. Every other thing, no matter how elementary, flies in his face |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by jaephoenix(m): 8:50pm On Dec 07, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: What elementary biology? Biological myth based on assumptions What are you talking about? Whats the assumption there? Did any scientist tell you Lucy gave rise to Heidelberg? Don't use your Youtube creationist channels as real science. Its evident youre not a biologist |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by jaephoenix(m): 8:48pm On Dec 07, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Have you ever seen a life dinosaur before?
Ọmọ lots of things are happening in the spirit realms but since it's what you see that determines what you think then anyone can just mold anything and viola! You wrap your brains around it even though it's of no practical benefits.
I don't believe any creature that never fit into Noah's Ark ever lived on this planet. They're all works of demons! Lol. Dinos are demonic?! Omo I like this guy  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by jaephoenix(m): 2:57pm On Dec 07, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: I never said there are no beneficial mutations I know what I said and you have not disprove it till now Mutations are USUALLY deleterious. A higher percentage goes to it being destructive, then being neutral, a little percentage is beneficial So the Kenyans and Ethiopians living in high altitudes are little percentage? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by jaephoenix(m): 2:39pm On Dec 07, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: Don't mind him, he is using scientific lies to deceive himself and others who don't know proved science Pls look at the image below. It shows FACTS that atheist love to ignore cos they hate truth So you're saying Heidelberg man evolved from Lucy? Lucy was a chimp that was born and died this century. And youre saying the Heidelberg man came from her? This is elementary biology youre failing to grasp, preferring to post ignorant posts from theists like you with poor knowledge of Science. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by jaephoenix(m): 2:25pm On Dec 07, 2022 |
Skankamola: You dont know what logic is obviously dude. Your conclusion up there about student/undergraduates is invalid logically. Obviously this is the first time youre interfacing with MadMax, our house jester and court clown. Take time to read his posts and you'll be amazed at his works. Remember he's an ex Intelligence officer. So treat him with respect  For some reasons, quoting him directly leads to bans, so I guessed youre serving some bans, but if you aren't, then you're lucky. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists And Theists, How Will You Handle This Scenario? by jaephoenix(m): 2:18pm On Dec 07, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker: Unfortunately for you God haters, the Truth is always in the past and some of us where here seeing when those devils were toying and testing with this evolution rubbish.
And the same questions that was asked them is still what I ask now. And like then, none of you can answer those questions now.
This evolution shit is just A CONJECTURE USING THE TRUTH WHICH WAS STILL COVERED BY THE BIBLE WHICH SHOWS THAT BOTH MAN AND ANIMALS ARE FROM THE EARTH OUR STRONG CONNECTION THROUGH RESEMBLANCES AND LIKENESS.
Thus, you devils are only using what is already known and trying to stretch it out to crazy, wild and out of Truth proportion.
The case of using the Truth to lay lies. Conjectures? Yet there are skulls of Neantherthals homo erectus etc, dinosaur fossils littered all over the world, with genetic testing technology, all agreeing to it. But yet not one relic backing up your Bible creation story, yet you believe it The joke's on you bro |
Christianity Etc › Re: Workch Says Atheists Are Apes! by jaephoenix(m): 11:12am On Dec 07, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: The author/s of that book has spoken so it's left to you whether you will BELIEVE or not!  Do u have any evidence or research to counter them, or is it still your regular 'My SkyDaddy says so' theme? |
Health › Re: 1-Year-Old Boy Drowns After Falling Into Bucket Of Water In Anambra (Pix, Video) by jaephoenix(m): 8:55am On Dec 07, 2022 |
dominique: CPR couldn't have saved this little lad. He must have fallen headfirst into the bucket and drowned within a matter of minutes. It wouldn't have taken up to two minutes before his lungs filled with water drowning him in the process. CPR comes in handy if ones body is deprived of oxygen and the reserved oxygen in the heart is pumped into the body. No sir, CPR can help too. It can mechanically take water out of the lungs. Use Google |
Christianity Etc › Re: Workch Says Atheists Are Apes! by jaephoenix(m): 8:20am On Dec 07, 2022 |
FatherOfJesus: But humans are classified as Apes.
Why is that too difficult for you to grasp? The guy claimed he's a biologist. If true, only The Flying Spaghetti Monster knows how he managed that. His ignorance of basic biology is astounding and brilliant |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists And Theists, How Will You Handle This Scenario? by jaephoenix(m): 7:25pm On Dec 06, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists And Theists, How Will You Handle This Scenario? by jaephoenix(m): 12:26pm On Dec 06, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: Humans are classified as mammals because humans have the same distinctive features (listed above) found in all members of this large group.
Humans are also classified within:
the subgroup of mammals called primates; and the subgroup of primates called apes and in particular the 'Great Apes' Humans, however, also possess many unique characteristics and are therefore classified within a unique subgroup of the Great Apes called the hominins.
https://australian.museum/learn/science/human-evolution/humans-are-mammals/ I didn’t want to post these for him. Obviously he's not a biologist. I wanted him to answer all the accumulated questions I asked him |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists And Theists, How Will You Handle This Scenario? by jaephoenix(m): 12:05pm On Dec 06, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists And Theists, How Will You Handle This Scenario? by jaephoenix(m): 11:40am On Dec 06, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: Lol Sometimes I get so many mentions and I lose track of who I need to reply
Mr Jaephoenix is an ape. Yes or no?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists And Theists, How Will You Handle This Scenario? by jaephoenix(m): 11:24am On Dec 06, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: Are you an ape or not? Simple yes or no I have asked you several questions, both on this thread and previous threads and you dodged them. I think its time I return the favor |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists And Theists, How Will You Handle This Scenario? by jaephoenix(m): 10:40am On Dec 06, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: Baba,are you an ape or not? You're caught in your web It was your fellow atheist that said so and I want to see your CONVICTION
For me, I am not an ape
Are you an ape or not, stop wasting time but I am going to screenshot your answer Shame Remembering your former comments, you are not mad with theists but you that are atheists are engaging them in a religious thread. Thought you should be in education
Are you an ape or not? Humans originated from ape-like creatures. I know its too much for you to grasp |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists And Theists, How Will You Handle This Scenario? by jaephoenix(m): 10:37am On Dec 06, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: Lol, only an idiot will tell you that intelligent man could have been made or evolved from intelligence Only an idiot will tell you a design has no designer or that a law has not lawgiver
Keep finding ways to console yourself You have a nice way of dodging questions. I have asked you to tell me your favorite designer and evidence he/she/it/they designed the world. But somehow u haven't read that particular question or you don't understand it |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists And Theists, How Will You Handle This Scenario? by jaephoenix(m): 9:16am On Dec 06, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: When two persons confirm something, you want to argue I have no such time Why not find their posts by yourself It doesn't matter the number of people that confirm it. The question is 'Is it the truth?' You just committed ad populum and besides we have more idi@ts in the world than smart people. Imagine if 1% of the world were real smart as in above average IQ |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists And Theists, How Will You Handle This Scenario? by jaephoenix(m): 9:04am On Dec 06, 2022 |
triplechoice: In real life, most children who are inquisitive enough to ask such questions , wouldn't be satisfied with the dad's explanation.
The next question that would come before going to question the mum, would have been, where did God come from ? Or, how do you know God created the first couple? and even more, where is God?
To avoid those sort of questions, which I can't honestly and correctly answer, I would not try to convinced her with anything I am not yet sure of .
But only let her know that nobody is certain about the origin of life and that scientists are still trying to make us know how exactly life began in a way we all can understand and accept .
As for you ,the op, please try to understand very well what evolution theory is. It's not the answer to the origin of life.
Morever, the theory has never said that humans evolved from chimpanzees or monkeys. One wonders where you got that from. This is not the first thread I have seen you trying to misinterprete the theory
It appears you have been listening to people who really can't explain evolution theory in a way you can understand it. He clams he's a biologist yet can't differentiate between an ape and a monkey. Something a kindergarten pupil can do. Talk about how religion fries the brain |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 11:17pm On Dec 05, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: Atheists and premium churchgoers, I don't know which one is more pitiable but for me, it's atheists cos churchgoers still do that but in ignorance
I used to look at one of the major selling books which is the daily manna. I just laugh especially at the prayer points. There's how someone living peacefully will invoke problem to himself How will you tell people to pray that thunder strike the elephant sitting on your destiny?! It's very funny. What happened to your destiny in the first place that it will stray to a forest and one elephant will be sitting on it One prayer they pray each day is that every evil altar of their father's house be destroyed. I ask myself, 'why pray such prayer each day as it they are being rebuilt overnight?' Yet. They say Jehovah's witnesses do not pray.
Everyday, when I remember my identity, that I'm one of Jehovah's witnesses, sometimes I have goosebumps on my back. No presidential honor in any land comes a million miles close to the privilege of being a servant of Jehovah. It is also a privilege that people are not happy but jealous with envy Sorry, I'll keep my kids far from you lots |
Christianity Etc › Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by jaephoenix(m): 11:11pm On Dec 05, 2022 |
IMAliyu: In a 100 million years there might still be beings that consider themselves humans and trace their lineage back to us, but they will definitely not be the same type of humans as we are now.
Depending on the environment they will have lived and exposure to sun light their skin color might be completely different to the dark and light shades of brown we know.
And depending on what they will have been eating their guts might be entirely different to ours. Similar to how we as modern humans have the appendix which is an entirely useless organ to us, but may have acted as store for beneficial gut bacteria to our ancestors as they survived in the wild.
Maybe sexual selection continues whereby only tall people kept reproducing and to them the average human height is 12ft, not the 5'6ft it is now or maybe they are taller because they will live on lower gravity planets.
Maybe in the future our main food source only comes from the sea and rivers, and people adapt to hunting underwater, and becoming semiaquatic beings, being able to hold their breath for hours or longer, having eyes that adapt to see clearer underwater among other possible adaptations.
A 100 million years is a lot of time to extrapolate, but it is enough time for the earth as we know it, to no longer be the same. The climate and biome will be different and with that so will the humans that will have survived on it.
Basically whatever a human maybe in a 100 million years, will definitely not be recognizable to us, and would definitely be a different species from what we are today. Our ancestors H. erectus, H. rudolfensis and H habilis were more ape like than us |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Are The “realistic “ Benefits Of Being A Christian Instead Of Irreligious? by jaephoenix(m): 11:04pm On Dec 05, 2022 |
peterincredible: With my research the old daoist religion brought at least a benefit which is practical and reproduceable for the benefit of humanity it is the traditional Chinese healing method acupuncture which tourist and sick people visit those acupuncture practicioners and they get heal and the way it works is it uses the energetic centers in the body to heal u can do a further research for it but as for the abrahamic religion I don't think they really brought any thing to the table but by only promising them a mystical wonderland where milk and honey flows Acupuncture isn't exact science. We don't use its method because its disputable |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Are The “realistic “ Benefits Of Being A Christian Instead Of Irreligious? by jaephoenix(m): 11:02pm On Dec 05, 2022 |
LordReed: I am sure they have learnt that you declared yourself intermittently insane. LMFAO! But I told you he's MadMax. Why do you think I call him that? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Are The “realistic “ Benefits Of Being A Christian Instead Of Irreligious? by jaephoenix(m): 10:54pm On Dec 05, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Are The “realistic “ Benefits Of Being A Christian Instead Of Irreligious? by jaephoenix(m): 10:48pm On Dec 05, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: You mentioned FIFA and other organizations These are commercial organization They make money What has all the world organization accomplished for all of us today look at UN, look at NATO,look at islamists and Christendom
If everyone were islamists, how will the world be? Look at places where Islam is practiced and the empires it controlled If everyone were of Christendom, how will the world be? Remember that the world wars that have been fought were mainly 'christian' nations that fought and kill one another
Look at what Jehovah's Witness are accomplishing today If everyone were like us, sincere bible students, how will the world be including in terms of morals You love darkness and fight against light
Truth is, one day, everyone inhabiting earth will be worshipers of Jehovah. The goat like ones will be destroyed
Of course, atheists have no occupancy in God's kingdom or in his new world, they will be flushed away with al their stupid, apish ideologies You mean the same guys mol@sting children and hiding the fact? No sir. I don't want the world filled with people like you folks. Also killing people by preventing them from taking blood? Hell no! Thank You |
Christianity Etc › Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by jaephoenix(m): 10:17am On Dec 05, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: I should believe that life came from non-life?! That's Abiogenesis You're a 19th century scientist Lol. So how did your favorite creator give life? From his anus? Isn't it from non-life? |
Christianity Etc › Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by jaephoenix(m): 10:04am On Dec 05, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: Oh really?! Because we don't know EVERYTHING about the designer disprove the existence of the designer right?!
In the natural world, many things still appear mysterious to us, many are unfathomable to understand, we only understand a fraction, a minute fraction and in the millennia to come, we'll keep being amazed at what we know about nature. Is that is so about the natural world, how much more the Maker itself. You keep on going round in circles. Science has given you an option in the origin of species by telling you it doesn't know how everything came about, but it knows to an extent how they evolved. And you said you don't believe science because it doesn't have 'credibility'. Now your book tells you some bogus stories which has many holes(holes so big I can't walk through it) and you know it has holes, but you believe it hook like and sinker without any credibility, evidence or otherwise. If I ask you who that Maker is, and how you know your version of the Maker is the authentic out of the thousands out there, you'll keep quiet Who is confused? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Are The “realistic “ Benefits Of Being A Christian Instead Of Irreligious? by jaephoenix(m): 6:40am On Dec 05, 2022 |
LordReed: Yet each sect of Christianity provides community and encouragement for its members. Its supposed to but not always. Many christians suffer from loneliness. Why do you think some commit suicide? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Are The “realistic “ Benefits Of Being A Christian Instead Of Irreligious? by jaephoenix(m): 6:38am On Dec 05, 2022 |
PARADIZEPRIEST: SPIRITUAL ENCOUNTER WITH GOD IS IT. E.G WHEN YOU ARE IN SERIOUS DIFFICULTY AND YOU PRAY YOUR HEART OUT WITH APPEAL TO GOD,YOU WILL GET TREMENDEOUS BENEFITS AND RELIEF.THAT IS PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE. GOD IS OMIPRESENTLY CLOSE TO THOSE THAT SEEK HIM. IT'S ALL ABOUT ABOUT BELIEF IN GOD YOU CANNOT SEE,BUT HE'S ANSWERS IS REAL PROOF THAT GOD IS WITH THE BELIEVER. QED  So christians don't suffer from any lack or infirmities, since god answers their prayers? |