KNOWMORE56: Jesus was seen as the son of man (i.e human being) in that vision...
He has at this time off loaded His divinity...He was seen in His office as Servant ( not in His office as God Almighty) ."
1 Corinthians 15:45 NLT, Is Jesus the life giving spirit a human in heaven?
KNOWMORE56 says Jesus offloaded divinity in heaven Bros, how many times? Why is your Jesus is Jehovah brought before another Superior being @ Daniel 7:13? KNOWMORE56 claimed that *He (Jesus) has at this time off loaded His divinity", Bros,how many Almighty Gods are @ Daniel 7:13?
KNOWMORE56: *. Daniel 7 :13 "KJV: I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him." ."
KNOWMORE56: *. Philippians 2:7 "KJV:But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant , and was made in the likeness of men " ."
John 15:15, Romans 8:3 & Galatians 4:4, who commanded His son in heaven to come to the earth?
KNOWMORE56: @ color, He was made /created/ formed as a human being ( not as God Almighty)...
As God Almighty, Jesus is not made/created... "
Colossians 1:15 who made Jesus the first born (preeminent) of every creature?
Genesis 49:3 who made Reuben the first born (preeminent)?
Trinity shege
KNOWMORE56: Your brother, barristter07, have argued with emusan... stressing the word AS/LIKE...
Now, Jesus called Himself THE SON OF MAN. And Daniel said he saw somebody like THE SON OF MAN...
are you saying that the person seen in Daniel vision is not Jesus (the Son of man), he is only LIKE Jesus? ."
*. Matthew 8:20 "KJV:And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.
*. Matthew 9:6 "KJV:But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house."
Did Daniel tell you he knew Jesus as son of man?
Jesus left the spiritual realm to live on earth in human form why would he leave the earth & go live In the spiritual realm in human form?
For una Trinitarian mindset, human form & limitations of human form is stronger than spirits in the spiritual realm.
At least the name of your church will tell you what you people follow there is only one name that is above every name and that is
Jesus Christ
[s]So you people don't follow the Bible now you say you are not my brother but Bible said we all came from Adam [/s] [s]So do you see you don't even follow Bible Now you follow a fake Bible because the first thing your founder did was to print out a fake Bible that is why everyone calls JW cult because they follow fake Bible [/s]
There is no place in the Bible that says JW organization is the mother of God that is actually blasphemy and an abomination but JW told you people that they are the mother of God
You once told Me that JW organization can save you until I blast you with the word of God before you correct your self
[s]Even now you hold on to many fake things that Bible condemn [/s] Let me ask you is Jesus Christ the only one who can save you because it is only the person who can save you that you can worship so do you agree to worship the God man Jesus that can save you
Bishop LIENUS Is confused & he proceeds with FALSE claims upandan.
John 4:24 & Matthew 4:10, did Jesus Christ instruct Bishop to give Jesus worship?
Bishopkingsley: You said the holy spirit has no gender let see what Jesus said
John 16:13 ► But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
New Living Translation When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own but will tell you what he has heard. He will tell you about the future.
Jesus called him he he he he he he
Let see new world translation
13 However, when that one* comes, the spirit of the truth,+ he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come.+ 14 That one will glorify me,+ because he will receive from what is mine and will declare it to you.+ 15 All the things that the Father has are mine.+ That is why I said he receives from what is mine and declares it to you. 16 In a little while you will see me no longer,+ and again, in a little while you will see me.”
[s]He he he only a person is called he he he [/s]
No, Jesus correctly called Greek PARACLETOS ('Helper/Advocate') "He", because Greek PARACLETOS ('helper/Advocate') is a masculine noun @ John 16:13-14. Holy spirit is personified as "helper/Advocate" is a Greek masculine noun @ John 16:13-14. NWT footnotes @ John 16:13-14 (screenshot) explained that with clarity.
Biblestudytools, your Trinitarian mentors proven that "Greek PARACLETOS is a masculine noun. LIENUS of a Bishop
KNOWMORE56: By the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, emusan have being giving you good ( Biblical) explanation in regards to Daniel 7:13 KJV:I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him."
You & Emusan claim Jesus is Jehovah in the old testament. @ Daniel 7:13-14 who are "THEY"? @ Daniel 7:13-14, why would Jesus be "brought to himself by "THEY"? .
KNOWMORE56: The place clearly described Him as SON OF MAN. He was seen as human being... KNOWMORE56 post= in regards to Daniel 7:13 KJV:I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him
KNOWMORE56= Jesus was seen as human being. Daniel 7:13 "someone like a son of man,. The difference is clear, KNOWMORE56 says Jesus is Jehovah in the old testament. @ Daniel 7:13, Who Seen Jehovah as human being in heaven? @ Daniel 7:13-14 & John 5:37, John 4:24 is Jehovah God a human being in heaven? . Trinity GIBBERISH devotees & st√pidity na Siamese twins
KNOWMORE56: You guys said He's the mouth piece of God... So this is how your MOUTH PIECE OF GOD is always been brought to the Father?
What I'm saying is that even if He is an angel ( a high ranking angel) as you people claim, does He have to be brought before He'll be sent for an errand?
Did KNOWMORE56 provide evidence on this forum that Jesus is an angel? Yes.
Yes, John 7:16 & John 15:15, John 12:49,According to Jesus Christ, will JEHOVAH teach His angel/Messenger what to say? .
johnw47: ecc 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:
oh poor fraud jw janosky i said some truths about your fellow girlie false jw's
you queer false jw's back each other up in opposing the truth. your fellow false jw's are clearly your god's, among other:
1 cor 6:9 Know you not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind
rottennaija: You no see your shameful life? To divide/distribute among yourselves and to pass from one to another among yourselves, which one shows the symbolic bread and wine was to be shared up and taken? Because JWs have the annual occasion where they reject the blood and body of Jesus, they needed to change Lu 22:17 to suit their practices and here you are talking trash without even knowing what the content of the video is.
Lu 22:17 is in Rottennaija head but not in the Bible
The Screenshots & lexicon of Luke 22:17 proven Your st√pidity is luminous.
Greek 1266 dia merizo = distribute/divide/share
Bible > Luke > Chapter 22 > Verse 17
New American Standard Bible And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He said, “Take this and share it among yourselves;
NASB 1995 And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He said, “Take this and share it among yourselves;
NASB 1977 And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He said, “Take this and share it among yourselves;
Amplified Bible And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He said, “Take this and share it among yourselves;
Christian Standard Bible Then he took a cup, and after giving thanks, he said, “Take this and share it among yourselves.
Holman Christian Standard Bible Then He took a cup, and after giving thanks, He said, “Take this and share it among yourselves. Rott WAILER continue WAILING
2 Chronicles 7:14 was then before Christ, but Matthew 23:37-38 & Acts 15:14-17, 10:35 should have taught you something very very important but you can't grasp it, but you carry Pastorpreneurs "Israel is sealed" GIBBERISH like gala.
Matthew 23:37-38 " Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those sent to her, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were unwilling! 38Look, your house is left to you"
johnw47: sagenaija, false jw mad max like all them false jw's is hypocrite and full of bull
if you had posted a jw video he wouldn't be knocking you would probably be praising you
because someone opposes false jw on something, he is: "useless, worthless, hopeless"
^^ such is false jw accusers, just like their daddy:
rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brothers is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
The Screenshots proven this WAILER'S bigotry & st√pidity is very luminous. Greek 1266 dia merizo = distribute/divide. JWs are very correct. When will OAM4J & his team of moderators begin to discipline bigots who make FALSE claims & spread misleading posts motivated by bigotry & prejudice?
freshboi88: 5 But one of the elders said to me: “Stop weeping. Look! The Lion of the tribe of Judah,+ the root+ of David,+ has conquered+ so as to open the scroll and its seven seals.”
No one except Jesus
Rev 5:5 has made u a fool.
Where is the correlation between this and
#1 the fact that Jesus is not part of every creature.
So why is Jesus not part of every creature?
#2Why is he given the same honor, glory, power, adoration, worship, praise given to Jehovah.
Isn't that idolatry......do they practice idolatry in heaven
#1 Colossians 1:13-15, Jesus his Father's son is the first born of every creature. Shebi that scripture dey your Bible!
#2 Bishop Kingsley (in screenshot) proven Freshboi88 is a LIAR.. @ Revelation 5:13-14, worship (Greek proskyneo) is NOT to Jesus. According to his fellow Trinitarian mentors & devotees.. Small boi DECEIVE himself upandan
freshboi88: @Janosky @DappaD now avoid me like danger. I pity them the work they gave them is too hard
Small boy DECEIVING himself upandan
Your fellow Trinity GIBBERISH devotees copied by Bishop (in screenshot) have disgraced your DUBIOUS claim on Revelation 5:13-14, worship is NOT to Jesus.
freshboi88: Happy with Satan your god. This THREAD is meant to enlighten people to the truth of the gospel. To save them from the condemnation they will surely get by been JWcos the society is a demonic cult
Your 3 doghead gospel is man made scam
"But these are written, that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God; and by believing you may have life through his name." John 20:31 John 20:31 means Freshboi88 proven (in screenshot) he is NOT a Christian let alone a servant of Jehovah God,whom Jesus worships.
KNOWMORE56: "...Who are they that brought Jesus CLOSE to Jehovah
Why would Jesus who was with Jehovah, have the same glory with Jehovah, joined Jehovah to create other things, who knows jehovah more than anybody will still have to GAIN ACCESS and be brought CLOSE to Jehovah..."
[s]You are really tormenting these guys... ;[/s]D
In Daniel 7:13-14, who are "THEY"? Why would Jesus be brought close to JEHOVAH when KNOWMORE56 & Emusan been saying Jesus is Jehovah? Bros, Do you really understand that you have ridiculed your Trinity GIBBERISH?
Bishopkingsley: No place you will see Jehovah witness in Bible no wonder no one joins JW even though they think their name is God's name lol the number of people joining your cult is reducing each day lol
VBCampaign: Why I Do Not Mourn the Death of Paul Yonggi Cho
The death of popular South Korean Pastor, Paul Yonggi Cho, was announced yesterday, Tuesday, 14th September, 2021. Cho was 85 years old and had been pastor of Yoido Full Gospel Church in Seoul, South Korea. This church is regarded as the assembly with the largest congregation in the world. While Nigeria churches may boast of the largest church auditoriums in the world, the church that has the largest number of members is the one that Cho led. Cho was a Pentecostal pastor who preached a full blown prosperity gospel and was one of those who popularized the brand in Asia and even went on to have long lasting influence on Christians here in Africa and Nigeria in particular.
It is because of the gospel that Cho preached that I refrain this day from mourning his death. I do not celebrate his death either and I would rather use the occasion of his passing to remind those who believe the gospel Cho preached that they do not believe the Christian message and if they were to pass from earth to eternity, the message they have laid their soul on as anchor might not be able to save them from the wrath of God coming on men’s unbelief.
Death is a leveler and Solomon reminded us of the benefit of death when he said that it is better to go to the house of mourning than to the house of feasting (Ecclesiastes7:2). He said that when people have occasion to mourn, it tends to make their minds dwell on healthy matters – especially things that concern the eternal state of their souls. It will compel those who are not Christians to have another opportunity to find peace with God.
On the other hand, the house of feasting is a place where the pleasures of the flesh are pandered to and the ease that come with such an environment will usually not make people think uprightly. Yet it is appointed unto every man to die and those who are wise will weigh carefully their relationship with God while they still have breath. This is the reason why as a blogger I will continue to use the occasion of the death of popular persons, who pushed certain ideologies, good or bad, to remind all of us of the eternal consequences of those ideas. And, certainly, when I die I am sure somebody out there will examine my beliefs and consider, according to scripture and the life I lived, whether I would be spending eternity with Christ or with the devil and his demons.
When I became a Christian in 1998, I developed a deep hunger for Christian literatures. I read everything I could lay my hands on that espoused the name Christianity. I am thankful to God that the Lord carefully directed some helpful materials my way in those days. Unfortunately there were others that were not too helpful – in fact downright cultic. One of them was Paul Yonggi Cho’s book called the “The Fourth Dimension”. In this book, the South Korean man wrote about how Christianity came to their country through the efforts of Western missionaries. He talked about how he survived an illness and then how he eventually built the church that is today regarded as the church with the largest congregation.
In this book, Cho taught a doctrine that said essentially that a person can get whatever he wants if he would only learn the art of visualization. He explained how this technique of visualization can be combined with the Christian practice of prayer, along with positive confessions, to receive whatever you wanted in life. The book was replete with his own personal stories and those of other people who use these technique to receive health and wealth into their lives.
It was not until some years after that I discovered that the doctrine that Cho was teaching was an arm of the heretical Word of Faith (WoF) message. Cho will however take an aspect of the WoF, positive confession, and extend it into the visualization technique that he taught in his book. This doctrine is actually an arm of the very cultic teaching called the New Thought that was developed in the 19th century by men like Phinehas Quimby but was Christianized by E. W. Kenyon in the early 20th century. It is a technique that is taught in many New Age books and if they are utilized properly, do actually bring adherents a lot of wealth – and health too. What Cho and others do not tell their adherents is that these doctrines are not taught in the Bible and the mere fact that they produce result is not enough for anyone to regard them as Christian.
Christian doctrines exhume essentially from the pages of the Bible. If a doctrine is being espoused and cannot be defended by the truth of the Word of God, that doctrine, regardless of what result it brings, is not of God. Also, if a doctrine is being taught by any so called minister and cannot be traced to what believers taught in the past, that doctrine is essentially a doctrine of demons. There is nothing new in the Christian faith; after two thousand years of its existence, there are no new arguments or doctrines in the body of Christ. When New Thoughts emerged in the 19th century, Christians had every reason to be wary of it. When it transformed to Word of Faith in the 20th century, there was a lot more reason to beware of this message.[/b]
A final test of whether a doctrine is sound or not is if it narrows down to the message of salvation for sinners and if it leads those who believe it to take the matter of godliness or personal sanctification very seriously. The doctrines of Christ leads hearers to develop a sense of awe for God, which leads those who are rebelling against him to repent of their sins and lay faith on his Holy Son, Jesus Christ.
The doctrines of Christ will lead men always to a healthy comprehension of the matter of salvation. It will help believers to worship God for the faith they have received in Christ and compel them to live holy. The doctrines that Cho espoused leads adherents to look as God as a genie: an idol that gives them all their heart desires. It is almost never about salvation. These doctrines also lead adherents to living lives that dishonor God with the avalanche of scandals that follow them.
Cho himself only recently escaped conviction by a court of law in South Korea, having been involved in a business deal which his son led and which led to the defrauding of innocent people of their hard earned resources. Cho’s son was convicted and sentenced to jail; while the father, though convicted, was pardoned by the judge because of his long term contribution to social matters in the society through his ministry and church.
Cho has concluded his life and ministry and is at the moment before the judgment seat of Christ receiving his reward, good or bad, for what he has believed and taught in the nations when he was alive. Cho wrote a lot of other books but it is his “Fourth Dimension” that is most known among Christians and the false doctrines espoused on those pages are still being propagated in churches around the world today. This is the reason I do not mourn his passing. Instead I bemoan the thousands of souls that are continually deceived by the message in his books and I pray that many of such persons can get to the point in their understanding of God of renouncing their beliefs in the doctrines that Paul Yonggi Cho and others like him preach.
His mentees are the gods of men running the show in this clime. If you observe closely, Paul Yonggi Cho’s message & 9ja Pastorpreneurs message is more like six & half dozen- same branded message but different labels, for effizy & packaging.
Bishopkingsley: Funny how can a former Muslim a lost soul say he was once like me lol
Is that not lack of respect for the truth
Islam hate Jesus You converted to Christianity yet you carry that hate to JW don't you see how lost you are
Quote The original pronunciation was lost so we believe
Answer Now the devil probably told you that the original pronunciation was lost is that not idea from Satan
Because that never in the original Greek word never was Jehovah used there so it devil idea to assume original pronunciation was lost but as a former Muslim that you are they decieved you
[s]The bible warn don't put idea as God word Repent
Quote I believe Jesus' statement against yours Bishop TRINITY!
. Answer If Jesus comes now and ask you you will say it Bishopkingsley that wrote
Matthew 28:19 ► Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Are you not showing how you hate Jesus by saying he did not write it that it Bishopkingsley that wrote it in your new world translation Bible[/s]
Bishop, carry your WAILING upandan with archaic GIBBERISH into the dustbin.
achorladey: [[s]b]When all others are SCATTERED with their contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines[/b]!..... MaxInDHouse
The scattered teachings and doctrines within your own very religious group is enough to scatter all other 42000 religious group paapaa.
An excerpts from how those scattered doctrines and teachings look like is captured in the post above and the mentality within your religious organisation concerning the name JEHOVAH captured as below from someone......
"For me it has been a long standing contradiction that God has clearly preserved this name in copies of Hebrew manuscripts so that it could be restored in the O.T. and yet was somehow unable or unwilling to do the same for the more recent Greek manuscripts of the N.T".[/s]
Continue DECEIVING yourself & enjoy your delusion with October 1926 mentality when the truth has left you far behind.
achorladey: Look for this words numbered 1 and 2 in bold in the picture below coming from the only revered Bible scholar in the history of the ORGANIZATION WTBTS.....
1. “It no doubt causes wonderment that God’s name, viz., JEHOVAH, does not occur in the New Testament, and neither Jesus nor His apostles are recorded as taking the name in their lips. In writing the New Testament in Greek, the writers of the gospels and epistles evidently followed the Greek Septuagint Version of the Old Testament, which also does not use the name Jehovah but uses the word “Kurios”, Lord, in translating the name Jehovah from the Hebrew text. “
2. “The Lord unquestionably arranged the omission of His name “Jehovah” from the New Testament, and has permitted the Christian churches throughout this era to overlook God’s outstanding name. “
You will see how far they can go to manipulate their words and members.
Point to note.....
1. neither Jesus nor His apostles are recorded as taking the name in their lips. In writing the New Testament in Greek, the writers of the gospels and epistles evidently followed the Greek Septuagint Version of the Old Testament, which also does not use the name Jehovah but uses the word “Kurios”, Lord, in translating the name Jehovah from the Hebrew text. “
2. The Lord unquestionably arranged the omission of His name “Jehovah” from the New Testament
That second point na serious laughing matter since God unquestionably have it omitted. Then, they should tell us when the Lord unquestionably want it returned back to the new testament.
The original Hebrew name of God re-discovered in 1,000 Bible manuscripts On January 21, 2018, Bible Scholar Nehemia Gordon and his team of researchers discovered the 1,000th Hebrew Bible manuscript containing the original name of God in Hebrew with vowels.
January 25, 2018 By Religion News LLC Share Tweet Share On January 21, 2018, Bible Scholar Nehemia Gordon and his team of researchers discovered the 1,000th Hebrew Bible manuscript containing the original name of God in Hebrew with vowels.
For two hundred years, scholars have believed based on Greek sources and conjecture that the Hebrew name of God was originally pronounced “Yahweh.” In late 2016, Gordon found never-translated traditional Jewish sources that explicitly identified the vowels of God’s name in Hebrew as “Yehovah.” This is similar to the English Jehovah, but with a “Y” and the emphasis on the final syllable.
God’s name, known as the Tetragrammaton, is written in most Hebrew Bible manuscripts with one of its vowels missing, making it unreadable in accordance with an ancient Jewish ban on speaking the name. Despite this, Gordon had previously discovered five Bible manuscripts with a full set of Hebrew vowels proving the pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton was known to Jewish scribes as “Yehovah.”
The project to find new evidence corroborating this discovery, began in February 2017 and in less than one year Gordon found 1,000 more Hebrew Bible manuscripts with the full vowels “Yehovah.” These included the two earliest known Hebrew Bible manuscripts with vowels, Russian National Library, Evr. II B 100 from the year 894 AD and the Cairo Codex of the Prophets from 895 AD. Gordon and his team also found the vowels “Yehovah” in three manuscripts written with the lost “Babylonian Pointing,” discovered in the Cairo Genizah in 1896."
Achorladey, SHAME ON YOU!!! 3 doghead worshippers, denying God's name, SHAME ON YOU!!!
Bishopkingsley: Another claim of the Watchtower Society about their New World Translation (the Jehovah's Witnesses Bible) is that it is pure and consistent: In presenting this translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures our confidence has been in the help of the great Author of The Book. Our primary desire has been to seek, not the approval of men, but that of God, by rendering the truth of his inspired Word as purely and as consistently as our consecrated powers make possible.(9) But when we check the Greek word translated worship when used for Jesus, it is rendered obeisance, but worship at other times! As previously shown, we see an attack on the identity of the Lord. Where exactly did the New World Translation inconsistently translate the Greek word meaning worship? In Mt. 2:11; 14:33; 28:9; 28:17 the Greek word is translated obeisance because it refers to the Lord Jesus, but when the same exact Greek word is used at Rev. 5:14; 7:11; 11:16; 19:4; 20:4 and Jn. 4:20 it is rendered worshiped because it doesn't refer to Jesus.
Freshboi88 has been DECEIVING himself & WAILING upandan on Nairaland. "Revelation 5:13-14 ,"it is rendered worship because it does NOT refer to Jesus"
Cc: Freshboi88, Emusan, Bishop & all his alter ego, Nancy2020 Achorladey KNOWMORE56 and all Trinitarian WAILERS. Shame on you !!!!
Bishopkingsley: God does not have one name because he put his name on all languages you can call him by any name you want to that how God get his ultimate glory from knowing all tribes and nations worship him in their dialect
Bishopkingsley: Another claim of the Watchtower Society about their New World Translation (the Jehovah's Witnesses Bible) is that it is pure and consistent: In presenting this translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures our confidence has been in the help of the great Author of The Book. Our primary desire has been to seek, not the approval of men, but that of God, by rendering the truth of his inspired Word as purely and as consistently as our consecrated powers make possible.(9)
But when we check the Greek word translated worship when used for Jesus, it is rendered obeisance, but worship at other times! As previously shown, we see an attack on the identity of the Lord. Where exactly did the New World Translation inconsistently translate the Greek word meaning worship? In Mt. 2:11; 14:33; 28:9; 28:17 the Greek word is translated obeisance because it refers to the Lord Jesus, but when the same exact Greek word is used at Rev. 5:14; 7:11; 11:16; 19:4; 20:4 and Jn. 4:20 it is rendered worshiped because it doesn't refer to Jesus.
The same inconsistency is shown at Jn. 9:38 and Mk.5:6. It is translated obeisance when referring to Jesus, but worship at Heb. 11:21 when it doesn't refer to Jesus.
Moreover, the same Greek word is found at Mt. 2:2; Rev. 22:8 and Rev. 19:10. At Mt. 2:2, when Jesus is the recipient, obeisance is again used, but in the other two Scriptures, when the Lord is not the recipient, worship is found! [s]Jesus was worshiped in Scripture by Christians, but the Jehovah's Witnesses aren't allowed to worship him!
JW before believe that Jesus should be worshiped[/s]
Acts 10:25 "When Peter entered, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet and worshiped (prosekynēsen | προσεκύνησεν |) him"
Bishop, Acts 10:25 doesn't refer to Jesus. Did Cornelius worship Peter?
Bishopkingsley: #1 Several differences between the NWT and legitimate translations include the following: The NWT has the Greek term word “staurós” (“cross”) as “torture stake”.
#2 It leaves out the words “sheol,” “hades,” “gehenna,” and “tartarus”, where other translations translate some, or all, of these as “hell” (JW’s do not believe in hell).
#3 The NWT uses “presence” as for the Greek “Parousia” instead of “coming” (JW’s believe that Christ returned in the early 1900’s). In contrast with the translators’ stated goals, these differences clearly represent “sectarian religious coloration.”
These might be laughable except that the NWT goes much farther with its mistranslation than this. The most important of these is how God is treated.
The Divine Name
The most noticeable change in the Watchtower Bible, and one they cite as proving its superiority, is the insertion of the name “Jehovah” over 200 times in the New Testament.
This word is allegedly a transliteration of the Hebrew tetragrammaton YHWH– although it does not appear in any Greek manuscripts. They claim that this “restoration” of the divine name (i.e., “Jehovah”) is required to worship God in truth (although Hebrew has no letters that would transliterate to a “J”!).
They fail to see God has many different names in the Bible and revelation shows God has a name which no one knows, and God has a new name we will call him in the world to come.
[s]JW told you there is no hell fire guess that is the place those who reject Jesus end up those who don't believe Jesus is God Almighty are sent their to receive great torment in the lake of fire[/s]
#1 Wetin concern Greek stauros, upright pole with your pagan traverse beam you label "Cross"?
#2 Mark 9:43 NWT, "Gehenna" 2 Peter 2:4 NWT " Tartarus" Bishop is a LIENUS . Sheoll/Hades = grave. Greek Parousia meaning 'prescence' , it's not debatable. Bishop LIENUS says Gehenna is torture chamber of hellfire , this Bros, you need medication?
Jeremiah, Jude, Jonah, Joshua are Bible names in that Bible you carry upandan yet you no get shame dey vex we call JEHOVAH with a letter 'J'. Bishop LIENUS Is a proven hypocrite
The problem with you you don't even know the meaning of Jehovah
Jehovah definition is - God
Jehovah is a Latin name for God
Thus, the tetragrammaton became the artificial Latinized name Jehovah (JeHoWaH). ... The meaning of the personal name of the Israelite God has been variously interpreted. Many scholars believe that the most proper meaning may be “He Brings into Existence Whatever Exists” (Yahweh-Asher-Yahweh). So we are not talking about just the father so when we say Jesus is Jehovah what it means is Jesus is God
So you are confused as usual the father is God that why we can say Jehovah is the father of Jesus
Hope you now understand this things that confuse your brain
Only when you understand the father has a special work the son has his the holy spirit has his own
Just like your body has his own work your soul has his own work your own spirit has his own work but all three is what makes you a man
Many scholars believe that the most proper meaning may be “He Brings into Existence Whatever Exists” (Yahweh-Asher-Yahweh).
Bishop LIENUS, who is the "HE"? How many persons is the "HE" who "Brings into Existence Whatever Exists” ?
livingchrist: you are pained! Jesus is Almighty God.
KNOWMORE56, Emusan, Bishop LIENUS are confused by the Trinity GIBBERISH. "By saying that Jesus Christ and the Father are the same person- God Almighty you are making Jesus a LIAR" The screenshot evidence proven Trinity robbed their SENSE
Bishopkingsley: What about Jesus' repeated use of "I AM" -- "I am the shepherd"; "I am the door"; "I am the truth"; "I am the way; I am the life; I am the vine; I am the resurrection and the life; I am the root and offspring of David, and the Bright Morning Star"? Would not each of those "I am" statements have reminded His Jewish listeners of the "I AM" statement by God to Moses in the desert? .
Shame on you! John 20:17 where is your "I am" going to? John 20:17, your "I am" is ascending to meet who?
Bishopkingsley: Jesus was crucified because the Jews understood him to be saying he was God. To them that was blasphemy and as a result they engineered his crucifixion. [s]His disciples understood what Jesus was saying as well. [/s]
John 10:35-36 Jesus Christ proven you're LYING.
Bishopkingsley: That's why they picked up the Old Testament Hebrew word Adonai which is usually translated into English as "Lord" and used it for Jesus. The use of Lord as a title for Jesus when that same word is used a few hundred times in the Old Testament as a title for Yahweh makes a strong statement for Jesus' divinity.
False claims.
Read the preface of your Bible and receive SENSE
Bishopkingsley: ;In John 20:18 Mary Magdalene is quoted as saying, "I have seen the Lord." In Greek, she uses the word -- "kurios"-- which is clearly used of God the Father in Acts 7:31: "The voice of the Lord came to Moses."
Kurios is also the same word used for God the Father in such passages as Philippians 4:5, 2 Corinthians 8:21, 1 Thessalonians 3:3, 2 Timothy 2:24, Hebrews 13:6, 1 Peter 1:25, 1 Peter 2:3, 2 Peter 3:9, James 1:7, James 4:10, and Revelation 4:11.
When Paul refers to Jesus over and over again as Lord (the same word in Exodus 3:35 which you quoted), it is clear that he understood Jesus to be saying He was God (for Paul, there is only "one Lord
Bishopkingsley: We in the 21st century can try to rationalize away the Early Christians' conviction that Jesus of Nazareth was God incarnate. However, it is clear that Jesus' followers used the title "Lord" for Him in the same way that they used "Lord" for God the Father. In his writing, John especially emphasizes the deity of Christ. Sit down and read all the way through the Gospel of John and his three letters in one sitting. If you do that rather than just focusing on isolated scraps of Scripture, you will come away with the sense that John is intent on demonstrating that Jesus was indeed God.
Your Trinitarian mentors stuck to the Jewish claim the name should not be used because it's too holy for mortals, as excuse to omit the use of God's holy name whenever they quoted from the old testament.
John 17:6,26 did Jesus make his Father's name known?
KNOWMORE56: You guys can make people laugh... Nobody in English often refers to human being. You should have used NOTHING instead because Jesus is called the LOIN OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH in that place
This NOBODY is outside the Father, SON and Holy Spirit... You have agreed with the KJV...
Let's see what happens there:
*. Revelations 5 :3 " KJV:And no man in heaven , nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. 4 KJV:And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. 5 KJV:And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, THE LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. "
Now, using the same logic: every CREATURE in verse 13 of revelations 5 should have included Jesus since you claim He is created
Greek: κτίσμα Transliteration: ktisma Pronunciation: ktis'-mah Definition: From G2936; an original formation (concretely) that is product (created thing): - creature. KJV Usage: creature ([/b]4x). Occurs: 4 In verses: 4
Why is Jesus not included?
[b]
LIAR
Did you exclude Colossians 1:15? This Bros, DECEIVING himself. I challenge you to quote the KJV verses with Greek ktisma. You DUBIOUSLY claim 4 whereas it includes Colossians 1:15. KNOWMORE56 and his Trinity mentors they will not make heaven. Their way no pure
KNOWMORE56: John 16:14 "KJV:He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of MINE , and shall shew it unto you. 15 KJV: All things that the Father hath are MINE : therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you."
Jesus said ALL ( not some) are mine!
He said that the Holy Spirit shall RECEIVE...
John 17:7 , 1 Corinthians 3:23 If KNOWMORE56 will receive SENSE.
KNOWMORE56: Can you ,barristter07, point out any quality of the true God that is missing in Jesus...
https://www.nairaland.com/6404492/characteristics-true-god. : The Characteristics Of The True God by KNOWMORE56: 1:20am On Feb 08 *. One of the laws in mathematics says if 1(one) is multiplied by itself it remains the same, i.e 1×1×1= 1.
John 16:28 "I CAME FORTH from the Father..."
In my understanding He is saying " I multiplied/increased/project from the Father"
The 1st one(1) is one, 2nd one(1) is one and the 3rd one(1) is one. the same Whatever description you give to any of them, the same is true for the rest.
This is the law that qualifies Jesus as the true God!
Let's see some of the qualities of the true God:
1. Creator 2. Power 3. Omniscient 4. Everlasting 5. Receiving worship 6. Judge of all 7. Love 8. Life
1 Did Jesus create his Father? Is the first born of every creature of God a creature? 1 Corinthians 8:6, Matthew 19:4-6, John 15:15, Jesus was taught only his Father is the Creator.
2. Matthew 28:18, Was his Father ever given power?
3. Only the Father knows, Matthew 24:36. If you have to, KNOWMORE56 go and twist any verse you want.
4 Matthew 27:43,46, What is everlasting about your deity killed by men ? Was his God & Father ever killed?
5. Matthew 4:10 & Revelation 3:12, Jesus proven you're wrong. As usual, twist any verse you can conjure
Christianity Etc › Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 10:09pm On Sep 23, 2021
