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GardenOfGod:
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I don't think I've abused any of you before. I put my messages across without abusing you because I've not met you before and I don't know you in person. You that says you are from the true organisation, is rather fund of heaping abuses and insult on me. I don't welcome that OK. Let's stop it here if you can't be civil and sane in engaging people maturely. Thank you.

Bishopkingsley:
Be ever seeing it and never understanding it

Acts 13:2 ►
While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.”

New Living Translation
One day as these men were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Appoint Barnabas and Saul for the special work to which I have called them.

DappaD:
Yet those men are both adherents of Trinity and they drink tea and bread with their god everyday.
Just look at Bishopkingsley and Nancy2020 arguing over this Mary matter on page 84.
https://www.nairaland.com/6633634/just-like-god-satan-also/83#104142977
So they are always learning and learning but never able to come to an accurate knowledge of the truth. 2Timothy 3:7

From what I saw on that thread, I’m even thinking Bishopkingsley is the same as Nancy2020. I wonder how this escaped my notice. It was bad enough for someone to compliment himself with two monikers, but the one disturbing me now is how someone can be arguing with himself with two different monikers.

freshboi88:
We would continue to worship Jesus who is the only begotten Son of the true Jehovah. Not the false Jehovah u claim to worship.......

Freshboi88, the only Polytheist without pretences.
Continue to worship Son & your other God you call "oly ghost"
Jesus heavenly Father, JEHOVAH is NOT your God.
Case closed.

Bishopkingsley:
[s]The cult eyes have been blinded they can't see who Jesus is don't blame them I understand what Bible says about those who can't see Jesus glory[/s]

Thomas worked with Jesus and did not believe who Jesus is until he saw Jesus rose from the dead

If Jesus appear to them all of them will bow and cry to Jesus and worship him without saying anything

Even Paul confessed after Jesus arrested him no one can remain the same when they see Jesus no one

Acts 9:3 "Saul , Saul, why are you persecuting me"
After that encounter and conversion,
Acts 9:20
Saul now Paul entered the synagogue preaching:
"Jesus is the son of God."

Whoever believes John 20:17 and Acts 9:20 is set free from Trinity GIBBERISH

Bishopkingsley:
Acts 13:2 ►
While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.”

New Living Translation
One day as these men were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Appoint Barnabas and Saul for the special work to which I have called them.”

God Himself is the one who accept separation of each man of God to do the work he wants each to do the field is big for everyone to fly

The main foundation of the Bible which each man from God must observe is

Do this things in the name of the father the son the holy

Any one from God that fails to do this things in the name Jesus pointed out

That person is from the devil

Different men of God can disagree but have any one of them come out to say we don't believe in Jesus or holy spirit no because that is the main point of the unity

From Genesis to Revelation whatever is attributed to holy spirit, is always reported by someone else.
Case in point, Acts 13:2.
I challenged Trinitarian devotees to show proof of one on one conversation between holy spirit and any believer.

All of them dodge and jakpa

freshboi88:
Going by this logic, then Jehovah God is a creation too....

Hide your head in shame

See the verse. Rev 5: 13-14.......E dey torment u abi

John 17:7
Now they know that everything I have is a gift from you.
Compare Matthew 20:18

MuMu boi wey no get SENSE.
Because your father give you everything you have, you are now his equal ?
Everything that makes your father human is far older than you and whatever you possess.
That is why you call him "Father".
The same reason, Jesus calls God "my Father and my God."

Hebrews 1:9 "the God your God Anointed (Jesus) above his mates.
God Almighty have no age mate, no peer.
No equal anywhere.

Trinity GIBBERISH robbed una brain.

Emusan:
Lol....the confused JWs is still running around like headless chicken

Bishopkingsley:
Please Janosky don't divert tell me

Will you serve and worship Jesus
Just like John and Daniel

Said every one will do

Bishopkingsley:
This is Jesus as a man speaking his purpose to man to serve man

God provides for all creatures both good and bad ones so a provider is equally a servant if you don't know

God is all in all

Janosky
Will you serve Jesus and worship him as John and Daniel
. Wrote that every one will do

Bishopkingsley:
They are really confused because they don't know Jesus is both God Almighty and man

Just like you said immediately Satan finished to tempt the man Jesus

Jesus now show his God Almighty nature by saying you shall serve only the lord your God

Which is Jesus
And immediately Jesus said that Satan ran away

Emusan:
Lol....so what did Mr Tsaferi say?



You see what I'm saying, justification for the fraudulent inclusion



Oponu when you should be the one to answer that question.



It didn't pain me but shows you people hypocrisy.

You can call other translations fraud for doing the same thing your demonic organization did. Yet you hide your shameless face in mud

Emusan:
Ignorance won't kill you.

If serve isn't worshipped, why didn't the 3 Hebrew men not SERVE the gods

So why didn't you SERVE JESUS CHRIST if to serve and worship aren't the same

That means I can serve Jesus as Daniel says beautiful.

Emusan:
Now this is getting interesting! To serve is different from worship

So why are you people denying Revelation 22:3 as being applied to the Lamb but Jehovah

Wahala for JaNosense the 8 men worshipper

Revelation 3:5,12, John 20:17,receive SENSE

Emusan:
You're even going too far.

In that chapter Jesus said "...and you shall serve ONLY him(God)"

When I asked his brother yesterday who is the word "shall serve him" applied to in that Revelation 22 when @archoladey quoted it, he went into ghost mode because he knows the same Daniel 7:14 he was using says "And to him there were given rulership+ and dignity+ and kingdom,*+ that the peoples, national groups and languages should all serve even him. His rulership is an indefinitely lasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom one that will not be brought to ruin. NWT

You can see how confused they are.

O king, have not regarded thee: they serve not thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up"

@ Daniel 7:14, 3:12 (KJV) Serve = reverence.
Not worship.
Can you now see how their Trinitarian mentors TWISTED Daniel 7:14 and Daniel 3:12 KJV?
Daniel 3:12 their own Bible proven the difference/dichotomy between Serve & worship.
@ Daniel 7:14, they changed serve to worship.
LIARS exposes their Triune deities sheeples.

Emusan:
Smile....jumping from pillar to post.

If you check that verse very well Jesus says ONLY GOD SHOULD BE SERVED but in Daniel's vision the one who looks like the son of man said to be SERVED ;DAND Wahala for the 8 men worshippers

Emusan:
As usual the JaNosense is at it again.

The question is, does the word OTHER appear in the original manuscript?

You ran away when Tsaferi article exposed your lying doctrine that Jesus died on the stake. Now only to resurface here talking rubbish.

@ Colossians 1:16 , "other" dey pain you but adding "hellfire" to Mark 9:43 instead of Gehenna no dey pain you, Hypocrite

Emusan:
This is Jesus statement in Matt 4:10 "Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only."

But Jesus is God!

Emusan:
Now he has jumped to another translation but when this translation goes against him in another place, he will enter ghost mode

New Heart English Bible is more accurate than your perverted NWT now

Does the word OTHER appear in Col 1:16-18 text?

You hypocrite can call other translations out for inserting word not found in manuscript but will never call your demonic organization out when does the same thing.

Bishopkingsley:
This is where trinity is clearly shown from Jesus mouth

Matthew 28:19 ►
New International Version
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

New Living Translation
Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.

English Standard Version
Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

Berean Study Bible
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,

Berean Literal Bible
Therefore having gone, disciple all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,

King James Bible
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Iyasaburi:
JW are professional argumentator. Aba! Why?

freshboi88:
So how is Jesus capable of doing everything Jehovah can do?
Provide the answer MuMu boy.

freshboi88:
Already thrashed this now......like a boss is greater than his employee. Does that make him more human than his employee.......

Una no get sense walai

achorladey:
[s]Two references from the organization you belong of which you cannot say it does not belong to them. Here it is again below and this time explain the second reference material which states holy spirit is God's power in action, his active force

Holy spirit is not Jehovah’s power

Holy spirit is God's power

Or the God is not Jehovah


Power as defined by the insight books says the capacity to do things.

Does Jehovah use his ACTIVE FORCE to do things?

A. Yes

B. No

Na today I know you. You that say evidence na false claim and lies even before I present am. Pe le tie[/s].

achorladey:
The bold is enough

Personification does prove personality for Jesus but not for HOLY SPIRIT

The standard here is PERSONIFICATION does not prove personality

Your yes nau tells me the kind of standard used by the organization you belong.

Jesus had one on one conversation with Peter several times, Matthew 26:31-35. 16:13-17..... Janosky


Here is the insight book again......

It is true that Jesus spoke of the holy spirit as a “helper” and spoke of such helper as ‘teaching,’ ‘bearing witness,’ ‘giving evidence,’ ‘guiding,’ ‘speaking,’ ‘hearing,’ and ‘receiving.’ In so doing, the original Greek shows Jesus at times applying the masculine personal pronoun to that “helper” (paraclete). (Compare Joh 14:16, 17, 26; 15:26; 16:7-15.)

Now look at the last scripture cited as it sit well with your question up there John 16:7 - 15

have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. 13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. 14 He will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you. 15 All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you.”

How will the helper deliver what Jesus required without conversing with Jesus going by the words used by Jesus himself?

Achorladey brain no dey where God put am.

Barristter07:
This is the meaning of representation

an artistic likeness or image

Seth was called the exact representation of Adam remember ? Simple . Seth comes from him

That designation simply means God created him as his very own likeness.

freshboi88:
Your sense no big pass that of groundnut seed. I ask u question u no answered.

Where were dey answered

Oga provide answer jhoor....u dey use question answer question.

1. Why is Jesus not part of every creature ? Rev 5: 13-14

2. Why does Jesus receive the worship, praise, glory, blessing, honor that is given to Jehovah.

Provide the answer or shut up n wail with your father the devil

awitness41:
Proverbs 8:22‭-‬31, the whole Chapter actually, is merely talking about "wisdom", not Jesus.

awitness41:
To the one who started this post - he asks valid questions.

There is God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit... true, they all exist.
But they are not the same.
Regarding God and Jesus... when Jesus claims to be "One" with His Father God, He is talking Spiritually and in Authority.

awitness41:
But Jesus did not pray to Himself while on Earth.
Nor when He ascended to Heaven did He sit at His own right hand.

awitness41:
Let me also ask all of you to please consider this:

John 5:21 (NKJV): For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will.
John 5:26 (NKJV): For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself...

In addition to Spiritually giving Life, John 5:26 also means that Jesus can create matter from nothing at all... something which no Angel can do, but only God and Jesus.

awitness41:
Now, at the very beginning - before the first atom, molecule, planet, or being - there was God alone.
For Jesus did not create God, just as a son cannot create his own parent, nor can a son come before their own parent.
God, therefore, MUST HAVE created Jesus... at the very beginning, before anything else (even an atom) was made.

In addition, God taught Jesus everything, gave Him every ability, and also gave His Son all authority over everything that would be made.

In essence, Jesus was just like God, for even though the Father is greater than Jesus (John 14:28), God gave Jesus every God-like trait.
(Therefore, it is no affront to God when Thomas refers to Jesus as "my Lord and my God"... because to us puny human beings, Jesus can be considered as One with His Father, or as God is, even though Jesus Himself is not God.)

awitness41:
To note: Jesus was not an Angel, just as God is not an Angel... for Angels were created by Both sometime afterward.

awitness41:
Now, on to Creation.
We know this is also true (John 1:3): nothing was made without Jesus also being present to make it.
That includes the first atom, the first molecule, the first planet, and the first beings... all of which God and Jesus created.
And to do that, Jesus also had to be given the ability to create matter from nothing at all, just like God can.

Consider our own body temples... a mass of atoms and molecules that would otherwise have no Life unless God and Jesus also put our own Spirit within us.
Thus, God and Jesus also make the visible (the body) and the invisible (the Spirit of Life in flesh that allows the atoms and molecules to become a living being).
Can we do that ? No.
Can Angels do that ? No.
Only God and Jesus can.

Why can't we simply believe that Jesus is just like God His Father in all ways - Spirit, form, and authority - but is Himself not God, but only God's Son ?
Why not ? It's the Truth.
That's because God, the Greater One, made it that way !

And you can all find the Scriptures that support this... without saying explicity that "God created Jesus".

I know the arguers will argue.

But if we actually think about what is presented to us in Scripture, ALL Verses included, then we can, in Truth, draw no other conclusion (nor can anyone disprove this using un-manipulated Scripture).

NwaAmaikpe:




Thank you Charlie.

Annie and her clan will keep deleting my posts like they did this one on her surname reverting back to Idibia.


However, my satisfaction comes from the realization that posterity will know all that Innocent has endured all the years.

We now know that the goody-tolerating- mother-of-all wife we know on social media and meet at events is a total opposite of whom Annie is in close circles and behind closed doors.

Ever wondered why Innocent has not gained weight in all these years?
Ever asked why it took forever before he wifed Annie?
Ever asked yourself the reasons behind the subtle messages in his songs?

Instead of Annie to swallow his cum and give him peace of mind, it's Innocent who has to swallow all the bullshiit she brings and maintain his cool just to save face for her.
And dude's been doing a whole lot of swallowing.

You see Annie, you see Lola, never ever wish to be the men in their lives.

In summary,
Fear these vaginarians.

Tubaba's Gospel counsel for ALL men.

Listen, Learn & have Peace.
Or:
Form James Bond & be the Father of all Nations while you WAIL behind closed doors & continue to lose weight.

Kajaard:
Chatinent you are summoned.

Come and defend the Jehovah's witnesses faith

freshboi88:
I love how your own Bible gives u guys away all the time

I think it's time to put an end to this arguement and bury u all once and for all to the glory of Jesus who is God almighty.

I'll use your own perverted scripture the NWT

NWT
Rev 5:13 And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and underneath the earth+ and on the sea, and all the things in them, saying: “To the One sitting on the throne+ and to the Lamb+ be the blessing and the honor+ and the glory and the might forever and ever.”+ 14 The four living creatures were saying: “Amen!” and the elders fell down and worshipped.

Questions that cannot be answered by JW because of their perverted doctrine.

1. Can the JW tell us why is John separates Jesus from every created being ? Isn't Jesus supposed to be part of the created beings worshipping God here according to JW doctrine ?

Pls tell us why !!!!

2. Why is Jesus together with Jehovah receiving the same praise, glory, might, worship, honor that is accorded to Jehovah by every creature that God made.


When you all can answer this...this debate can continue.

Trinitarians in the house let's press them for answers