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Ezegedegreat:
A very popular pastor was left with an egg on his face after a woman turned against him when he was performing deliverance on her in a village during a crusade.
In a viral video that has set tongues wagging on social media, the self-acclaimed pastor is seen going around touching women’s foreheads, all in the name of miracles and deliverance.

The miracle seeking women had lined up expecting to receive deliverance from the self-declared man of God.

However, things turned backward after one of the women confronted the preacher when he tried to touch her forehead.

Watch Video here-https://yawabase.com/woman-who-refused-to-fall-during-deliverance-give-pastor-a-heavy-blow-on-his-face-watch-video/

Iyasaburi:
The problem with you guys is, you are so confident about nonsense.
Something that is simple, you just succeeded in making it complex.
JW is one of the evil of the ages!

freshboi88:
So how is Jesus capable of doing everything Jehovah can do?

MaxInDHouse:
You don't know what a CHALLENGE mean my guy, the NWT was the Bible's Interpretation of the Watchtower, the JW Organization uses this version as our official translation globally.

So if you're truly ready for a REAL CHALLENGE then you have to name your Church and the version your Church is using so we can compare both to know which translation is ACCURATE in the translation work.

But if it's about what you know in a challenge against what i know then we're not going to mention the source as in the translation, each person will only explain himself on whatever topic we choose!

I am Maximus one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, you are GardenofGod one of which Church?

If you say the Church of God then you're not ready for a real CHALLENGE because we all know that your founders aren't teaching the same thing!

Bishopkingsley:
[s]and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.[/s]



All liars
That add (other) (a god) etc
To the bible and name their Bible new world translation

[s]This is their reward
They shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

This is the real death of those who don't have Jesus those who don't believe he is God Almighty their Savior[/s]

KNOWMORE56:
#1
"So what are the THINGS Jesus sees the Father doing that Jesus can do also?"
Which of them will answer... lol

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KNOWMORE56:
I have many questions for them but they don't answer questions... except copying their organization answers and paste here.

KNOWMORE56:
This issue of worship that maxInDHouse and his fellow worshipper of watch Tower, barristter07, are talking about is the Word...

By the way, I have similar question about this "Jesus is created"

They claim it is Jesus speaking in Proverbs 8.

Since He is the only Being created by the Father, and the speaker in Proverbs 8 says:

Proverbs 8:26 "KJV: While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
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KJV: When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
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KJV: When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
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KJV: When he gave to the sea his decree, [b/] that the waters should not pass his commandment: [b] when he appointed the foundations of the earth:

Who is this He, is it Jesus speaking of the Father or another being speaking of Jesus, "the creator of all other things"?

cc: Janosky, maxInDHouse, canticles, captivator,barristter07,haddeylium, peacefulworld01,tamyfire, fengchui...

Bishopkingsley:
#1
In the old testament why did Jehovah not say Michael is the Savior since there was Michael since creation

Through out the Bible what you will see is Jehovah is the Savior and Jesus is the Savior

Michael is never in the equation.
Bible state that God don't trust his angels and watches them to make sure they don't do errors

Lack of knowledge is killing JW

LIENUS of a Bishop wey no know him Bible.

Bishopkingsley:
You pick where Jesus said the father is greater than I

#1
And you leave where Jesus said if you see me you have seen Jehovah

#2
Jehovah is in me and I am in Jehovah

Lol

achorladey:
Here is how they put it in their publications.

That's how I arrived at


1. Personification does not prove personality for HOLY SPIRIT

2. Personification does prove personality for Jesus.

freshboi88:
So many rubbish in one talk.

23that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.

Typical JW take the first part of the text and useless comparison.

Where does it say when u don't submit to your husband u dnt submit to God.

@Bold we see denying the Jesus honor and worship is denying the Father, which shows their unity n equality.

So throw your logic into the dustbin

haddeylium:
I've been trying to be reasonable with you, if you want to keep this conversation going, you should keep it civil.

My simple explanation was that ' because Jesus' is God's representative, it's common sense that disrespect to him is disrespect to his father that sent him'.

When the israelites were murmuring against Moses. Jehovah said it's against him they were because Moses his representing him . So simple.

Now, consider Jesus own word to his followers here

Luke 10:16
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16“He that listens to YOU listens to me [too]. And he that disregards YOU disregards me [too]. Moreover, he that disregards me disregards [also] him that sent me forth.”

Now, would I be correct to say Jesus and his followers representing him are equal? Because a disrespect to his followers is also a disrespect to him?
Then father

Do you people even study bible at all?

achorladey:
How about this about the holy spirit that they believe as captured in the images below.

Then follow this conversation that result as a result of those images

JW: The holy spirit is God's active force, his power in action.

Non-JW: Would Jews and early Christians know about God's power?

JW: Of course!

Non-JW: [Acts 19:2]

and said to them: “Did you receive holy spirit when you became believers?”+ They replied to him: “Why, we have never heard that there is a holy spirit.”

JW: Oh... um....

Non-JW: Paul also said that the holy spirit isn't the same thing as God's power:

[2 Corinthians 6:6, 7]... by purity, by knowledge, by patience,+ by kindness, by holy spirit, by love free from hypocrisy,+ 7 by truthful speech, by God’s power;+ through the weapons of righteousness+ in the right hand and in the left,

JW: Um... I have to go.

Hismasterpiece:
I'll as you some questions to put this argument to rest and please answer them honestly.

1. Who was God referring to when He said, 'Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.'

2. What do you have to say about these scriptures -

Act_13:2. As they ministered to the Lord and fasted, the Holy Spirit said, "Now separate to Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them." (Does a force speak)?

Act 8:29. Then the Spirit said to Philip, "Go near and overtake this chariot."

Act_10:19 While Peter thought about the vision, the Spirit said to him, "Behold, three men are seeking you.


Do they or do they not show that the Holy Spirit is a person? Isn't it only people that speak?

There are other scriptures like John 16:7-8, John 16:13-15 where Jesus refers to the Holy Spirit as He or Him. But i won't post them. You can check them out for yourself.

However, please answer my question honestly.

Nancy2020:
is like saying is your spirit alive

#1
Or saying is your spirit part of man, is it that you actually find it hard to understand how you are created.

#2.
God is the father the son the holy spirit all in God.
Man is body soul and spirit all inside man.

freshboi88:
The answer to your question is the answer to this question which u would provide.

Can u sesperate honoring Jehovah and worshipping Him?

Barristter07:
The Father called humans " God's " as well. The question remains: Unlike Jesus calling the Father MY God , is there anywhere the Father address Jesus as " My God " ? The scripture you quoted never said My God.

Emphasis on " MY "

achorladey:
Na your way of doing things. No be today I know now. You that can call references or evidence wey you never see as FALSE CLAIMS and LIES only to come back and use the references or evidence as TRUTH

Now you want to color my post. Pele ti e.

The day go come and you will deny your moniker is Achorladey

achorladey:
1.
As of anyone told Janosky never to cite Geneva Bible 1599 when he wants to show that the organization he belongs were right to believe, teach and preach that ANGEL MICHAEL is JESUS CHRIST.

#2
Or perhaps ask him if im be shareholder for this platform wey e talk sey na ATHEIST get am.

#1
Malachi 3:1, Amplified Bible.
Do you want more?

#2.
Did I make that claim?
When and where?

achorladey:
Show the contradictions in one breathe

Atleast e never become POISONS or eating from the refuse dump. The reason why you see contradictions. If na poisons and refuse dump you suppose no bother to respond at all.

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The two most prominent messengers, however, are the first and the last: St. [b]Paul and Pastor Russell.

Apostle Paul words dey for Bible. 2.
What about Mr Russell his books? They are classified as APOSTATE materials not fit for consumption by the same organization he used his money to build and establish

Nancy2020:
God already identified two names of who is the Savior but that two names are the same person but you find it hard to understand it.
Now if you have sense you will sit down and ask God why is it that Jehovah is the Savior in Old testament and Jesus is the Savior in the new testaments.
Then God will tell you why.
Now notice you hate Jesus that is why you only say only Jehovah's is the Savior but you thought that I will fight it when you said it because you did not know I knew the truth. We don't fight Bible but we follow the rules.
I already know Jehovah and Jesus is the same person. Because God already said they will call Jesus God with us.
Notice how you fight to accept Jesus is the Savior. The only reason you fight it is because you are of the devil.

achorladey:
@ Bishopkingsley concerning whether they read the bible or not.

They do read the scripture but na to fit their IDEOLOGY and DOCTRINES already set. For example:

How will they explain the below from the NWT dey carry sef

Watchtower of November 1,1917

“A Tribute to the Seventh Messenger.” In part

it said:
The great drama of the Gospel Age opened with the apostle Paul as the chief messenger, or angel, to the Church. It closes with Pastor Russell as the seventh and last messenger to the Church militant. For the other five epochs of the Church, the Lord provided messengers in the order named;

*St. John, Arius, Waldo, Wycliffe and Luther*.

Each in his turn bore the message due to be understood during the epoch he represented.(such messages includes you guess right TRINITY, HELL FIRE IMMORALITY OF THE SOUL[/b] e.t.c

The two most prominent messengers, however, are the first and the last: St. [b]Paul and Pastor Russell.
[/b]
Apostle Paul words dey for Bible. What about Mr Russell his books? They are classified as APOSTATE materials not fit for consumption by the same organization he used his money to build and establish.

Even John wey write part of the Bible no get mouth reach pastor Russell paapaa.

Emusan:
[s]I know you must find a way of twisting that article, since you people have the audacity to twist the scripture with the backing of your father the Devil but you'll always be put to shame like your father the Devil.[/s]

The article is well detailed, Crucifixion has been known to the Jews and Romans many centuries before Christ was born.

Emusan:
"Because the main purpose of this practice was to punish, humiliate and frighten disobedient slaves, the practice did not necessarily result in death. Only in later times, probably in the first century B.C., did crucifixion evolve into a method of execution for conviction of certain crimes.
Initially, crucifixion was known as the punishment of the slaves. Later, it was used to punish foreign captives, rebels and fugitives, especially during times of war and rebellion. Captured enemies and rebels were crucified in masses. Accounts of the suppression of the revolt of Spartacus in 71 B.C. tell how the Roman army lined the road from Capua to Rome with 6,000 crucified rebels on 6,000 crosses."

Emusan:
This is more interesting when you consider that it was Roman authority who condemned Jesus to death and was handled over to the Roman army for execution.

[s]You'll never receive sense JaNosense [/s]

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Emusan:
But the cross beam is also a pole.

Emusan:
[s]The deluded 8 men worshipper won't receive sense. Anyway, you can inform the elders in your hall this week that[/s] a renowned archeologist has come with an undisputable evident supporting Jesus execution on the cross

[s]I know it will pain the 8 men in Brooklyn on hearing that [/s]

Mr Tsaferis confirmed Deuteronomy 21:21-23, IMPALE is Jewish custom in the scriptures.
Crucifixion no ,no

Did Mr Tsaferis say Yehonathan is Jesus Christ?
Emusan and LYING can NEVER divorce

Nancy2020:
Bible shows that Jesus is lord and God so Jesus said only your lord God that you are to worship is the same as saying only me you are to worship.

Bishopkingsley:
Jesus is Jehovah in the flesh so that is not two God's he is still the same God as he reveals himself in the flesh that revelation is called son of God or the word of God

This is the mystery that JW find hard to understand because they hate Jesus

rottennaija:
Sounding so defeated

freshboi88:
U said only Jehovah is ho theos...so take a snap shot of your own NWT Greek interlinear MuMu

Brocab,your fellow Trinitarian devotee says
Christianity is a monotheistic religion founded on the belief in Jesus name

Freshboi88 proven himself is worshipper of 2 Gods.
Idol Polytheist pretending to be Christian

Bishopkingsley:
Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the. Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. ... For it is written, 'You shall worship the Lord your God. and him only shall you serve.
It did not say don't worship Jesus
Have you forgotten Jesus is lord too and God too
Thomas called Jesus God.

Nancy2020:
just like Bishopkingsley said no place in the Bible shows in that verse that Jesus said don't worship me.
But I can show you where they worship him in Bible many places just like they bend the knee.

GardenOfGod:
[s]

POINT OF ORDER!!!
We were dissecting Hebrews 1:8 and 9 and I have asked you questions and you have given me answers.

[b] #1
I used your answer to accurately analyse the Greek text and we arrived at you confirming what the New World Translation of Greek interlinear has made evidence, that Jesus is "ho Theos" (The God)


Your denial is inconsequential because the evidence is very obvious.

#2
If we want to talk about Psalms 45:6-7, I challenge you to snapshot your New World Translation interlinear and not from any other source because you people don't trust any other translation except yours.

Snapshot Psalms 45:6 from New World Hebrews interlinear

#challenge
#challenge [/b]

GardenOfGod:
I asked you a simple question and you gave me your answer.
Your answer confirmed that Jesus is God.

Have some shame young man.