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GardenOfGod:
New World Translation interlinear is rated by YOU as the most accurate. Therefore, when we will discuss Psalms 45, I will want you to use it for references and not Masoretic Text which is gotten from a public source other than WatchTower Translation.

GardenOfGod:
New World Translation interlinear is rated by YOU as the most accurate. Therefore, when we will discuss Psalms 45, I will want you to use it for references and not Masoretic Text which is gotten from a public source other than WatchTower Translation.

GardenOfGod:
This was the question I asked Janosky...



And this was his response...


ANALYSIS OF JANOSKY'S ANSWER.
Janosky is directly saying that God was talking to "HIMSELF", because the phrase
"YOU loved righteousness..."
Could be rightly rendered...

"YOU(God of Jesus) loved righteousness..." according to Janosky.

[[s]b]SUMMARY [/b]
If God was talking to "Himself" as God, according to Janosky, but the statement is making reference to "Jesus", therefore Janosky is directly and indirectly confirming tha[/s]t [[s]b]JESUS IS GOD[/b] for the second time to the glory of God the Father.
End of discussion![/s]

rottennaija:
Class action suit dey wait Una. Your GB don already prepare Una for damage control since they will not be able to wriggle out of court attendance. Na that time their naked go full for everyone to see say dem no get a single drop of spirit for their body.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1qWwVt00WY

Nancy2020:
show me in the Bible where Jesus refused people to worship him.

Nancy2020:
Philippians 2:10-11
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth,
11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Nancy2020:
do you actually think that Jehovah's Witnesses understand that to kneel down and bow means to worship.
The same thing God said every one will do to him is the same thing he said every one will do to Jesus.
Does that not tell you who Jesus is.

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Nancy2020:
Romans 14:11
It is written: “’As surely as I live,’ says the Lord, ‘every knee will bow before me; every tongue will acknowledge God

Nancy2020:
Babajide Olusola Sanwo Olu Is it the one that ran out when end Sars was on.
No one bows to buhari it not in Nigeria laws.
I don't understand your comparison
God states how worship is and you are hell bent on arguing about it.
Just because you hate Jesus
God is saying here that every one including the devil will willfully admit that he is God Almighty
And every one in the whole world will do the same to Jesus.
Yet devil blind your eyes to this fact
Argue with the word of God as you do other scriptures.
At the end we shall see if you will refuse to bow down and worship Jesus.

Devil doctrine below
Show me this in Bible
JEHOVAH singlehandedly chosen Jesus for that position and declared saying "do you want to enter PARADISE and live forever? Then at the name of Jesus of Nazareth you must bow

Matthew 4:10, Jesus Christ no follow for your fake doctrine.
Jesus says Do NOT worship me, you MUST worship only JEHOVAH your God.
Only JWs obey this instruction.
You can go ahead and DECEIVE yourself.

Bigredmachine:
Willian has no hand in whatever arsenal is passing through now... Arsenal are where they are now because of foolishness and stubbornness...

GardenOfGod:

[b] [s]Because of the Watchtower presupposition that Jesus is not God, they choose the first version; otherwise, the Father would be calling Jesus God, and that goes against Jehovah’s Witness theology[/s].[/b]

[s]It is clearly seen that New World Greek intearlinear Translation correctly admitted that JESUS IS GOD in Hebrews. 1:8
[/s]
[s]But because of the fact that they cannot change the original Greek text, they would have changed it.

As I have shown that the "YOU" is referencing JESUS AS GOD.[/s]

[b[s]]"... But the SON (JESUS) the throne of YOU (JESUS) THE GOD... "[/b]

That's the original Greek text as clearly seen. No argument.[/s]

Is Jesus the God of his Father?

Continue LYING, Garden of LYING.
Even when he read Revelation 3:21 and Luke 1:32.
Ogidigaan of LYING.

GardenOfGod:
I don't understand how a simple issue is becoming a big one for Janosky.
What is the name of the personality referred to as "YOU" in verse 8?

Let's treat it one by one.

GardenOfGod:
[s][/s]
Do not jump to Psalms 45 yet.
I did not post it for you.....

Answer my first question before we talk about Psalms 45.

I cannot quote the entire Bible for a word that is evidently indicated in verses 8 and 9. We are trying to establish a fact and that fact is hidden in a personality shown as "YOU".
I will therefore not bother quoting other passages but only the one that will reveal the "YOU" only.

Janosky, just MENTION THE NAME OF THE PERSONALITY REFERRED TO IN THAT PASSAGE

#challenge
#challenge

>> THIRD ISSUE ARISING FROM VERSES 8 & 9.
Janosky

From the original Greek interlinear, a session of verse 8 reads...
"...The throne of you the God..."

Verse 9 reads...
"... You loved righteousness..."

Question:
Who is the YOU in both verses?

MENTION HIS NAME please.

No stories!

#challenge
#challenge
#challenge

GardenOfGod:
They have deserted the group and ran away as expected..... Only myself and Bishopkingsley are here
#challenge Janosky has absconded oooo

achorladey:
Same way alot of child abuse cases were sweept under the rug by elders because of misguided loyalty to the absolute authority of the watchtower society The Governing Body....what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

It is indeed becoming an uncomfortable history

rottennaija:
This is the "how about them" arguments.

nans24:
Ahhh, Max, na you talk this one.
Let me check the moniker again...

Okay, see, I appreciate the little background story.
Dont mind the hurtful words or insults I have been throwing. Na just online banter....

There are alot of things you don't know about your watchtower organization. Things your G.B doesn't want the rank and file witnesses to know. To prevent you from knowing those things, they've brainwashed you all to view any material they didn't publish as apostate materials. That is why you guys don't believe any form of negative report about your watchtower organization.

nans24:
The founder of your organisation, Russell, was taken to court by his wife who seeked for divorce. She accused Russell of so many things I wont type here because you won't believe it.

nans24:
Your organisation has 6 times in the 60s, 70s and 80s predicted the end of the world. People sold their houses and properties. All were false.

One of your President, Rutherford, built a house and called it bethsarim. His claim was that old patriarchs in the bible will be ressurected and will live in that house with him. It turned out to be false.

nans24:
A Governing body member, Raymond Franz, left the organisation and wrote two books exposing certain things that alot of you witnesses dont know.

I am giving you this 4 stories to let you know your organisation has an ugly history both past and present. One that they don't want you guys to know about.

To know a false organisation, you need to start your research from how that organisation began.

nans24:
As for the university policy, watchtower didn't give it as an advice, it was a rule. Alot of friends I have who were elders told me they were dropped because they sent their children to the university.

Watchtower claims those who go to university end up leaving their organisation and commiting various sins so therefore no University education for their members [/b]but that is a false and cultlike decision to enforce on its members

Do people not commit sin in their place of work?
Is it only those that go to university that leave the organisation?

[b]Bros, be honest. You contradict yourself.
You claim " therefore No University education for their members" and at the same time, you claim "they (JWs parents) sent their children to the university."

Nans24 with the same mouth disprove himself.

GardenOfGod:
While waiting for Janosky to respond to my questions, I want you all to go through this revelation with open mind.


The RSV translates it as “Your divine throne endures for ever and ever,”

GardenOfGod:
“but this is a highly unlikely translation because it requires understanding the Hebrew noun for “throne” in the construct state, something extremely unusual when a noun has a pronominal suffix, as this one does . . . The KJV, NIV, and NASB all take the verse in its plain, straightforward sense, as do the ancient translations . . . “

GardenOfGod:
When we look at the Hebrew, we see that there is no grammatical requirement for this translation

GardenOfGod:
though it is considered to be the best translation by most translators.

GardenOfGod:
In and of itself, this is not conclusive because the context of this verse in Psalm 45 is dealing with a king which would make one wonder why he would be addressed as God; but, it is not uncommon for NT writers to take a verse in the OT that seemingly deals with one subject and apply it to another. They knew something we didn’t.

LIARS - Matt Slick & Garden of LYING
We know the truth it's not hidden.

At anytime, the Jews NEVER claimed any king is God.
No place at all from Genesis to Revelation.

Nancy2020:
their GB only likes people who are not intelligent to be JW members lol lol lol

nans24:
You think I am lying

Oya wait, let me show you an email from one of your elders/c.o that gives talk in that 3 day program you guys usually attend before covid came.

Alot of your members are one leg in one leg out.

Nancy2020:
saying your church is childish because God tells everyone to preach Jesus and not church.
So if you see people preaching church or organization just know they are little children in the faith.
That is why we glorify Jesus first. Lift Jesus up and not your church because all church or organization are prone to error only Jesus is the perfect human being and perfect church because his body is the church. Just look to Jesus and stop looking unto human beings for help.
Who can save you is it your church or is it Jesus.

Nancy2020:
Bible shows Jesus call God the father God, and Bible equally shows God the father call Jesus God. So it not a new thing to see or hear.

Bishopkingsley:
I said ask them is Jesus God Almighty the reply they give you is what will determine the church they attend

[s]We know the evil church and organization that refuse to believe in the Bible[/s]

Nancy2020:
I completely understand how Bishopkingsley show the difference between church doctrine and Bible doctrine.
The Father, the son, the holy spirit,,, this is what unite many different churches together so that is the main thing trying to pit us against our church doctrine is evil of you because you already know we don't agree on that area. So try some thing else to do.
Jesus is God Almighty this is the main thing which is actually important in Bible and in life.

Bishopkingsley:
Call awitness41, PeaceJoyLove and Nancy2020....

All of them will kindly tell you that Jesus is God Almighty

Exodus 3:15 mentioned that Jehovah is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, it means they’re all the same person?

God of Abraham =one God
God of Isaac =one God
God of Jacob =one God

What is the common factor here God
Meaning same God been the God of all those three different men

In Matthew Jesus was pointing out how God reveal the father the son, the holy spirit as one that same God

We have explained how the father is greater than I came about because we have said Jesus is a complete man and complete God Almighty

When you hear how God hide himself in Jesus what do you think the Bible is talking about it about God making sure that the body he prepared to use will actually be lower in everything as relate to the father position

Note immediately Jesus was glorified you can see God restore to him his former glory and equally made his name above every name in the universe both in heaven and earth

I can explain more if you want

freshboi88:
They emphasized unity because they knew human prejudices would always rear it's ugly head just as it was in the days of the apostles.

The unity been taught n prayed for was a unity in diversity. This is something u and ur ilks would never understand.

Nancy2020:
I believe in Trinity
I believe Jesus is God Almighty and holy spirit is God Almighty so why are you acting like I have ever refused to believe something that catholic and many other Christians churches declare and what is in the Bible.

nans24:
See mumu.

90% of your JW are PIMO including your circuit overseers that mount platform to give gullible people like you talk. I know many of them.

Your freemason governing body is battling hard to keep brainwashed fools like you in the cult while they are paying millions of dollars for child abuse cases. Keep licking their anus

Oh, by the way I see youve taken interest in reading my posts. You could as well follow me to screenshot more of my posts.

Ode.

Nancy2020:
I saw were MaxInDHouse said Jesus can't save people and I saw Bishopkingsley point out the evidence to you and you act like you did not see it.
I saw GardenOfGod prove to you from JW website that God in Old testament was used to refer to Jesus in the new testaments but you beat around the bush to avoid the truth.
The strange part is that you know Bible more than MaxInDHouse yet you fail to tell him that Jesus is above JW 8 men group.
Remember this place is not about winning members because you can't win any one with lies, if you fail to correct MaxInDHouse how can you correct a sinner who joins JW.

Nancy2020:
should I tell you the number of people who have left JW cult and given their life to Jesus and renounced the evil teachings of JW. Many give testimony of how they were given Watchtower booklet as a replacement to the Bible. They tear up the Watchtower books.

nans24:


The irony!

Same way alot of child abuse cases were sweept under the rug by elders because of misguided loyalty to the absolute authority of the watchtower society (The Governing Body).

Hypocrites.

Anyway, am glad alot of their members are waking up spiritually to see how they have been brainwashed. I know alot of JWs that are P.I.M.O.

You abuse women on Nairaland, how do you know Pastor daughter dey "Bleep well well"?

Oke mkpi Hypocrite done m*lest taya.

This Misogynist nans24 P.I.M.O, abusing women , upandan on Nairaland is not a HYPOCRITE.

GardenOfGod:
>> THIRD ISSUE ARISING FROM VERSE 8 & 9.
Janosky

From the original Greek interlinear, a session of verse 8 reads...
"...The throne of you the God..."

Verse 9 reads...
"... You loved righteousness..."

[color=#990000]Question:
Who is the YOU in both verses?

MENTION HIS NAME please.

No stories!