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rottennaija:
Not according to WT. If you know you know. Who is in the image below? Definitely, WT admired Paul Grundy.

achorladey:
Education on logical reasoning and fallacy. Like a poster said, its not common to JWS alone. They share common factors with many others

We are not even dealing with scriptures here just a peep into their THOUGHT PROCESS

achorladey:
Your organization website na carrier of MISLEADING INFORMATION D later you and your brothers will direct people there to learn more. The watchtower you talked about is found there.

I reach there before you

livingchrist:
see this scam, what happened to the body of Jesus you cannot fit answer.
Your fraud of an organisation said Jesus body suffer corruption.
Lie lie, 1 Tithothy 6 says Jesus is God.

John 5:37, Jesus Christ knows your deceit...
John 5:37, you're pretending to follow Jesus and now you FALSELY claim the word of Jesus na Scam .

1 Corinthians15:24-27,45, did Paul not teach you Jesus Christ is a glorified, life giving spirit after his ascension ?

Emusan:
Another useless episode from deluded JWs!



@1
So do they give wrong warning or their writings contain errors?

Again, does Peter's writings and teachings contain errors and mistakes?

@2

I can see how you deluded JWs are just changing the narrative.

But your sister once said here that ANYBODY who fall out of God's moral standards won't be given a place to rule with Christ.

Now a partial Jesus didn't replace Peter but today many CHOSEN AND ANOINTED JWS can be replaced by the same Jesus if they made simple mistake like Peter did.

So much for the back and forth confusion doctrines.



Does that make the writing of Peter to be fallible


@3
But anybody who falls out of God's moral standards won't be qualified for heaven, how come people are being resurrected to heaven when they err and wrong?



Does their teachings and doctrines contains errors?

Why this simple question is so hard for you to answer?



You'll keep asking because the people you're asking aren't in competition with you, it's only JWs that are in competition with other just continue to deceive themselves with over self righteousness.

Who are you to examine anyone? Are you God?

Very soon now, if you run out of your delusion you start with the phrase "stick to what you believe and I stick to what I believe"




The same God bless you too

1
Luke 19:11 (compare Luke24:21),
Peter and other disciples believe the erroneous teaching that the "kingdom of God would arrive IMMEDIATELY" and " Redeem Israel" from Roman Oppression because Jesus Christ always preach "Repent for the kingdom of God is @ hand.


Na them still write Luke24:21.19:11 & Acts1:6-7 put for your Bible, Mr LIENUS
Mr LIENUS, did Jesus Christ teach them he will Redeem Israel and the kingdom will arrive IMMEDIATELY ? (Acts1:6-7) .

achorladey:
So it can be seen that a person does not become alive from God’s standpoint until such time as he is free from condemnation resulting from sinfulness. In the case of those who will rule with Jesus Christ, Jehovah God, on the basis of his Son’s sacrifice, “declares them righteous” and thus views them as being perfect, without sin, while yet in the flesh on earth. (Rom. 8:33)............WT

Watchtower issue of 1970's na you, Achorladey bring here to MISLEAD Nairaland

That person who first called you "Snake..." knows you're Deceitful well well

Even though Achorladey is aware that JWs have publicly acknowledged mistakes made in the past.

Bros , you are..... Haabaaaaaa !

livingchrist:
what happened to Jesus body?



which the happy and only Potentate will show in its own appointed times. He is the King of those who rule as kings and Lord of those who rule as lords,+ 16 the one alone having immortality,+ who dwells in unapproachable light,+ whom no man has seen or can see.+ To him be honor and eternal might. Amen.
Nwt

Good
Jesus is the only Potentate and the king of kings

This makes Jesus the only sovereign this makes Jesus Jehovah because
Jehovah is the king of kings
Daniel 2:47
The king answered unto Daniel, and said, Of a truth it is, that your God is a God of gods, and a Lord of kings, and a revealer of secrets, seeing thou couldst reveal this secret.

And the sovereign
Psalms 83:18
That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.


If Jesus is The only Potentate it means there is no other sovereign apart from him which means he is Jehovah.

FEGNO:
I hope everyone understands that sperm from two different men can produce twins. Just saying.

TheCalculator:
Source: https://metro.co.uk/2020/10/26/mother-says-people-dont-believe-her-black-toddler-and-his-albino-twin-are-really-brothers-13480238/?ito=cbshare

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Kestolove:
Madam tell us the truth, stop behaving like Igbo woman..d truth will set u free

midehill:
Dear guys,

I humble write to you all. I am sure some of you will go against me and some of you will surely support me. Anywhich way, I got to say what is on my mind.

Before I start, pardon me for my use of words, I am not perfect.

I humbly beseech my humble men to stop deceiving women mainly because you want to sex her. If you eventually have your way with her, what did you gain. Absolutely nothing. You only enjoyed it when you are doing it but after the deed is done, you feel so tired and empty.

Most men have loose it because they want to have their ways with the girls... The reason why most guys does this is because maybe the girl is sexy, that is having a big boobs and a gorgeous ass with a beautiful face. But I tell you, all this are just materials things because when you eventually reach there, you will realise all this things are just vanity.

Most men have married wrong wives just because they were deceived with the ladies structures which is having a sexy body features, beautiful face and a cool voice. I am telling you, so many men married their partner based on this assertions.

After some years or months into the marriage, they begin to see that they made the wrong choice because the wife is no longer cute like before again, no longer sexy also like before again. Even though she is still sexy, there will come a day when the solid breast will fall. When her beautiful face will become wringle, when her cool voice will be coarsed.

So men, before you marry any lady, ensure you pray about it earnestly. I know no one is perfect but at least when you pray about it, you receive directions from the spiritual sides. Nowadays people just jump into marriage without doing any courtship, without getting to discuss together things they can accept and things they can't.

After getting into the marriage, they will now be maltreating their wives by not taking care of them, by not paying school fees, by not paying house rents, by becoming totally irresponsible.

Some even beats their wives, some shouts on their children, some comes late at home, some run away from their wives when thy are pregnant. Though I know some women too are terrible but we dont have to pay evil with evil.

Let me summarize what I am trying to pass across below:

--- when we maltreat our wives, we are hurting ourselves also in one or the other because when we do this, we are hurting another guy brother, mother, sister, child which is the wife you married.

What I am saying here is your wife is either any of this, (a wife to a guy, a child to guy, an elder sister to a guy, a junior sister to a guy. So When we hurts her or maltreat her or start coming home late, we are also hurting ourselves as the male species on the long run) I hope you grab my point.

--- Dear men, are you finding your wife unattractive, this is what you should do. Take her to get new clothes, the ones that turns you on, take her to a makeup shop, let them make her up for you... Make her happy and give her peace of mind and you will see your wife very attractive to you once again.

--- Men, don't act like a weakling in your home... Always be in charge and also give her a chance to say her mind also...


Dear guys, please let us stop hurting women or deceiving them. If you know you don't love her, please avoid her, don't engage with her.

If you love her, don't tell her yet, make friends with her to be able to know who she is exactly. Then this will let you know if you want to stay with her or not.

Guys, so tell me why are you hurting your wives or girlfriends, why are you maltreating them...
Let's discuss

Kind regards!!!

Ferlis:
Good day all. I had to create this account to post this. I need help urgently. PLS I DON'T NEED ANY MONEY. I just need advice and guidance. I'm not myself right now. I'll try to be brief

I turned 27 last week, finished my service in March and work with a private company. I actually started working here after school and 'worked' my posting to serve here and I'm still here. My salary was increased to 200k per month shortly before the lockdown but I'm required to work everyday (mon-sun). No break. Work is going well and I'm okay with the long working hours. No issue

Problem I have is that I'm constantly thinking and worried about my health and future. Nobody except my immediate family is aware that I have a chronic medical condition. I have to inject myself twice daily (morning and night). Sometimes I skip a dose cos I'm fed up but the symptoms become unbearable so I have no choice but to continue with them. Doctors say its hereditary but my parents are fine. Well, my health is not even the issue, I only mentioned it so you'd understand me better

The main problem I have is I constantly feel worthless and depressed. I've been saving since I finished school but only have close to two million naira in savings so far. I tried getting my own apartment but my parents insist it's not wise since my workplace is very close to home and that I shouldn't start incurring so much expenses now

Well, how long will I keep saving before I'm financially stable to afford a good apartment? How long till I'm able to afford a car? Get married and establish my own business?

I'm an introvert and this constant worry has made me withdrawn even more from others. No single friend. I'm even tired of this life. Sometimes I wish I would sleep and wake up a child so I don't have to worry anymore. Other times, I wish I can just sleep and not even wake up.

The least grade I got in school was 'C' which was rare. Mostly 'A' or 'B'. Yet I would constantly cry and feel worse than even those that failed or were going to probate. People hated me for that but it's beyond my control

Let me stop here. Pls, what can I do to be happy and feel good about myself? I'm always worried, sad and frowning my face. Where can I find a therapist, counselor or psychologist cos I feel something is wrong with my brain. It gets so bad I start having intense headaches. Pls I'm tired. I just want this feeling to stop

livingchrist:
crap as usual.
Wayo scam organisation, your thinking is warped.
Jesus said the worms in hell never dies, meaning those in hell will have corruptible bodies.

Jesus never said you enter into hell with your natural body but rather It is better to live in this life with a maimed body and enter into heaven than to live with your full body and yet enter hell.
Hell is a place where the worms never dies nor the fire is quenched.

livingchrist:
there is nothing like Spirit body, where is it in the bible?

so Jesus was resurrected back as a Spirit person. Did he die as a spirit before that he should be resurrected back as a spirit?

Haha, how is Jehovah like Angels? Jesus is Jehovah God.

John 17:4-5....

If you don't grasp each point Jesus Christ made there, and you're still claiming he's glorified human body in heaven.
Omo, you have entered one chance.

If claim Jesus Christ is Jehovah, John 20:17, Matthew 10:32, Revelation 3:5 Jesus Christ have reason your matter already.
1 John 4:9,14-15 ,Bros , you're on your own.
Confirmed

Emusan:
That means Bible is full of such errors and teachings.

Do you agree?

I know Mr JaNosense, will change tune now!

Emusan:
That means Bible is full of such errors and teachings.

Do you agree?

I know Mr JaNosense, will change tune now!

DappaD:
There I fixed it for you @bolded.
Jesus Christ and the 144,000 are to rule OVER the earth from heaven sir. It's that clear. (1Cor 6:2, Rev 20:6)
Jesus Christ is the FIRST firstfruits resurrected as an immortal spirit being and now resides in heaven. (1Cor 15:20,23,1Peter 3:18)
While the 144,000 are second firstfruits bought from among mankind whose citizenship exists in the heavens NOT the earth.(Philippians 3:21, Rev 14:4) these ones also share the same kind of resurrection Christ had—resurrection to a spirit life indestructible and incorruptible.(1Cor 15:42-44, 51-54)


The “Kingdom of heaven” is rightly so because that's where God’s Kingdom/government is located. The “Kingdom of heaven” is not the same as heaven itself, because God said he was going to establish a Kingdom in heaven and heaven had existed before that time. (Daniel 2:44)



The “New Jerusalem” coming down from heaven is event that symbolizes something else. (Rev 1:1)
The marriage between Jesus Christ(the Lamb) and the bride i.e. “New Jerusalem” made up of those who are adopted spirit sons of God takes place after Armageddon and marks the beginning of the 1000 year Messianic rule; that is when attention is given to righteous inhabitants of the earth in the sense of the “New Jerusalem” coming down to the earth. (Rev 21:2)



The Kingdom of God is on earth yet the world conditions have proved otherwise. I sure hope you're thinking straight though. You no even try sugarcoat your lies sef.



The “new earth” is symbolic. See Genesis 11:1
Simply, it means a society of obedient mankind where righteousness would be the watchword. (2Peter 3:13)



Except one is born of spirit, anointed and sealed on basis on Christ's shed blood, he cannot rule alongside Jesus Christ as a joint heir. (Romans 8:16,17, Revelation 14:1-4)
Pretty much explains why John the Baptist was left out of this arrangement.(Matthew 11:11)

Emusan:
Then who says they are perfect

The point is: Do the teaching of Noah, Moses, David, Solomon, Jonah, Peter and many others servants of God contain ERROR or WRONG DOCTRINES?



Irrelevant!



The same God bless you...

johnw47:
mumu and immoral false jw janosky

of course you agree with mad max that
God is for unnatural sex acts between married couples
which acts includes blowlobs and analsex etc.
and that those sex acts are in fact "Holy"

big mumu fraud jw janosky:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

managingpartner:
The only way you can get married to her is when she is excommunicated. In as much as she is still in the faith, her family will never allow her to marry a non witness.

Blabbermouth:
It's only the governing body that knows.
Werey dey disguise.
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johnw47:
unstable false jw mad max



humans have only one exterior sex organ
penis for the male and vagina for the female
the penis and the vagina are made for each other
sexual intercourse with the penis and the vagina
which are the only sex organs is the only natural
sex act, hence all other sex acts are unnatural

penis and vagina is the only way to procreate

using mouth and anus for sex is unnatural
those with the Holy Spirit know this, and
even just common sense tells honest persons this

you who teaches that unnatural sex acts are okay with God
and are in fact "holy" between husband and wife, is perverse
and a false teacher, and those agreeing with you are of course
also perverse

2Pe_2:1  But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies,



but immorality and lawlessness abounds in these last days:

2Pe 3:3  Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts

Jud 1:18  How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. 
Jud 1:19  These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

Blabbermouth:
Let me take my time to type out Rev 22:5
And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign forever and ever

What I asked for was - A scripture that connotes that some set of the ressurected will abide forever in heaven

1. Rev 22:5 does not say anything about that.

2.There is nothing about some little flocks in Rev 22:5

achorladey:
na master of calling others WAYO, FRAUD, LIARS and the rest.

Achorladey , WAYO man wey expose himself

In 2017, Achorladey said Jesus is God Almighty "I am" believers are LIARS. because @ John 3:16 , Jesus says himself is the begotten son of God, His Father.

Now Achorladey does NOT agree with Jesus @ John 3:16 anymore.
Achorladey's "I am" ,is Jesus his God Almighty, just like his new friend forming 'Pastor'.

Bros, you are jejely bearing the tag you placed on the "Jesus is God Almighty " I am" Crew since 2017
1 John 4:9,14-15 & Matthew 10:32, Bros na your own Bible says Jesus done reason your matter.

Blabbermouth:
If so, the likes of MuttleyLaff, Shadeyinka, Emusan, Johnw47, livingChrist, solite3, JesusJnr, and co. are all witnesses for Yahweh i.o.w - Yahweh's witnesses.

Hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha

johnw47:
Luk_12:20  But God said unto him, fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?

like i said blabbermouth fool
you wouldn't know Jesus if you came face to face with Him

Rev 21:8  But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.

Emusan:
But even your organization admitted that the early Bible students made mistakes as those of Apostles.

So which means going by your point, no one is in heaven with Christ since virtually NO HUMAN IS INFALLIBLE.

This is a statement from Watchtower "The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction. In fact, the Watch Tower Publications Index includes the heading “Beliefs Clarified,” which lists adjustments in our Scriptural understanding since 1870. Of course, Jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food." Watchtower 2017 Feb p.26

Now do you think anyone among Jehovah witness since inception will be in heaven by now?

It is a contradiction to later claimed that people are already resurrected to heaven since 1914.

livingchrist:
*@1
Do you even understand anything at all?
It[the body] is sow a natural body but [the body] raised a spiritual body.
[/b]Whether you call it physical or not, the fact remain that Jesus [b]body rose but in a different state but your organisation denied it.




It does not change the fact that Jesus rose with his body




Only a dummy will deny what has being clear set before you.
Sinners body will be eaten by worm Jesus said ao.




*@2
but your organisation said Jesus body was destroyed, that means Jesus body was never raised.
Fraudulent organisation.

*1
WAYO man wey refuse to accept the truth that "physical body" is the same as 'natural body' even when him biblehub and EVERY Dictionary quote tell am say it applies to beasts and Man
.

@*2.
WAYO man done bring his own FALSE gospel he DUBIOUSLY attach to JWs..
Bros, have JWs not extensively quoted Jesus speaking to you @ John 6:51 and Paul speaking to you @Hebrews 10:10 ?
Your Bible says Jesus body was his offering for our redemption from sin.

Did I not ask you this question:
"The Offering you put in your church box, do you collect it from the box after church service?
I wrote " the honest answer in your heart, apply it to Hebrews 10:10.. Did I not tell you?

Bros, You love FALSEHOOD too much

livingchrist:
you think you are dealing with a novice right? Why did you keep silence at the greek translation? Remember all those versions were translated from greek.

Every english versions has their limitations as far as accuracy is concerned.

The key word (Greek 5591)Animal, Natural, Physical is the the same meaning.
Greek Psychikon also meaning "Carnal"

Ndipe:
https://www.christianity.com/wiki/holidays/why-did-jesus-use-the-same-body-after-the-cross.html

johnhood:
Even religion itself is a form of spiritism.

livingchrist:
A single word can have meaning meaning, it does not mean all can be applied in all occasion.
Definition 12 does not cut it, in the case of 1 Corinthians 15vv44

Preciousgirl:
I head a former cultist say they used to work against people by making them forget their date of births.

How is a person's date of birth related to his Destiny?

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