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Barristter07:
You have finished yourself with that dictionary you quoted. Quote definition 12 according to Mariam webster for Natural on this thread

livingchrist:
which dictionary tell you that natural is physical nature?

brocab:
The truth is the bible-outside the bible-you have nothing. And what is the bible-it's God's Word-you even use it yourselves-to prove a point..
Now anytime you may believe you may even be with the Lord-He doesn't look at denominations-He looks at heart. Matter of fact Jesus said His kingdom is not of this world.
He never called Himself a JW' the Watchtower had added what you believe is the organisation you call a denomination. [/color]

Preciousgirl:
Jesus Christ is God Almighty

Jw spotted

JWTheocracy1:
Hi guys please share your views about the future of Naija here. And why you don't wanna travel but to stay back and make it better to become the Naija you've always dreamt of. As for me, I escaped late 2017 and no regret whatsoever till date.

cocolacec:
Add your pastors,Alfas and bankers.

Kobojunkie:
Um.... this is what Jesus Christ actually said...
John 6:51
This bread is my body. I will give my body so that the people in the world can have life.”

pozehnani:
Never!

Angels are Messengers of God while the holy Spirit is the moving force of God. The holy Spirit is the third person in the Trinity
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brocab:
So that's true-Zzor's a man-well the other JW's don't seem to mind lusting over it-it just show's Zzor is part of the Watchtower's family tree-men dressed in drag..

Blabbermouth:
Let me give you a tip.

Whenever you want to reply someone, do address the point or points the person raised, compare it with other scriptures and show why so so so doctrine is actually the truth.

I've never seen you convince anyone before. Why? When you reply, you reply with a point of your own, writing your own scripture and feel proud of yourself.
In your mind, the scores is 1-1. If your interlocutor brings another scripture and reasons from it with a particular perspective, instead of setting him straight, you rush to find another scripture and drop another point. In your mind, 2-2.

Reason from the scriptures with whoever you are engaging, stop being obsessed with your scoreline method.

livingchrist:
Clown, where did I ever say the body can withstand fire forever? Clown, when has Ephesians 5:27 ever talked about body?

Cant bodies that have scar heal?

Kobojunkie:
All you are continue to do is repeat the doctrine that has been taught by your pastors and churches for a long long time, attempting to use it here justify your claim that Jesus Christ gave up His "natural body" when he died though.
We are speaking here of the very same Jesus Christ who is recorded to have said the following...

Don't you think if what Jesus Christ meant was a NEW temple, He would have at least made that clear in the above? Instead, He said He would build it up, suggesting that the very same, would be rebuilt.

Ihedinobi3:
I think that I will avoid talking to you going forward. Just as I said, when some of you are still new on the forum, you put up a front that suggests that you may be decent or more productive to talk with, just as was my impression with Maximus with his first monicker, but as time goes on, you show just how "street" you are, how uncouth and unreasoning.

What is the point of talking about defamation? Is defamation of character not the same as making unsubstantiated accusations with a view to giving someone a bad reputation? Did I not explain that I provided what I believed to be evidence? Have you refuted the evidence to show that my accusations are false? On what basis then are you talking about defamation of character?

"Playing the victim card"? LOL. It is kinder to you for me to "play the victim card." If you want me to stoop to your level, I could, but I prefer not to in order to show respect to my commanding officer. If I did, you would soon learn how abusive I once knew how to be.

As for your time on this platform, you're the one who made a claim as if you have been on Nairaland since the first day it launched. Have your say, if you please, but don't make claims about which you know nothing. Where were you when myself, Enigma, MrAnony1, and a bunch of others were debating the Trinity with ijawkid, truthislight, and others of your ilk? Certainly not here. Yet, you think you can tell me how soundly the Trinity argument has been defeated so many times over. And on Nairaland no less.

As for your opinion, my posts are still public, any reasoning person can tell whether I ever solicited your opinion on anything. You've been having delusions of grandeur since I addressed you, suggesting at least once that I want to learn something from you, in spite of the fact that I have demonstrated several times that I know the JW doctrine quite well and don't need your tutoring in it. If you want to talk, by all means, talk, but when you claim that I either want you to or have asked you to share your opinion, keep in mind that you are only proving yourself the liar that I said that you and your ilk are. So, no defamation of character there, just a statement of fact.

Edit:

Regarding your addition about me calling the JW a cult of liars,

1. It was obviously not an insinuation. It was a clearly declared accusation.

2. Are you not the ones who have been boasting of your organization's defining quality of lack of dissent? What is the definition of a cult again?

3. Did I really call you a cult of liars because you disagreed with me? Was it not rather because you have been collectively willfully misrepresenting clear biblical statements? I didn't even take into consideration the many lies you have told against me since we started talking here.

Edited.

Revelation 3:5,12
New King James Version
. 5 He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.

. 11 Behold, I am coming quickly! Hold fast what you have, that no one may take your crown. 12 He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name."


Bros, according to your "I am" in heaven, who is his "my God and my Father"?

Bros, What is the "willfully misrepresented clear Biblical statements in Revelations 3:5,11,12 ?

Igbo man wey dey teach Jews their Hebrew language

achorladey:
I ALWAYS tell you. You tend to get lost in the post you cited yourself. Who did I say they made a LIAR?


It becomes Achorladey has changed the scripture

Who will decide their FATE is another question?

achorladey:
I ALWAYS tell you. You tend to get lost in the post you cited yourself. Who did I say they made a LIAR?


It becomes Achorladey has changed the scripture

The words of the Scriptures change since you call " Witnesses of Jesus their God Almighty" LIARS..

achorladey:
Who did I say they call a LIAR


You never dig tire. You go dig where I defend the same ORGANIZATION you belong then you will come BACK to When I stopped defending it.

I was here before you.

xproducer:
An angel is a messenger of God... "Are they not all ministering spirits sent forth to minister for those who will inherit salvation?" - Hebrews 1:14

Angel Gabriel, for example, delivered word to Mary that she would, per prophecy since told, bear the Savior, the Lord JESUS -

"And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God." - Luke 1:35

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The Holy Spirit is GOD, One of the three Persons in the eternal GOD-head Who indwells all the children of GOD in Christ JESUS!

"For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one." - 1 John 5:7

"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you." - John 14:26

"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit," - Matthew 28:19

achorladey:
You need to be badged with the website logo or perhaps declare your allegiance to the GB before CONFIRMATION.


The same person (Janosky) that says JESUS is Yahweh's witness can't accept those that witness about Jesus who he says witnesses about Yahweh is a Yahweh witness

MuttleyLaff:
"But what about you?” Jesus asked. “Who do you say I AM?”
Peter answered, “You are the Christ.”"
- Mark 8:29

"²Now Judas also, who was betraying Him, knew the place, for Jesus had often met there with His disciples.
³Judas then, having received the Roman cohort and officers from the chief priests and the Pharisees, came there with lanterns and torches and weapons.
⁴So Jesus, knowing all the things that were coming upon Him, went forth and said to them, “Whom do you seek?”
⁵They answered Him, “Jesus the Nazarene.” He said to them, “I AM He.”
And Judas also, who was betraying Him, was standing with them.
⁶So when He said to them, “I AM He,” they drew back and fell to the ground."
- John 18:2-6

See Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, at Mark 8:2, dropping subtle hints and leaving telltale signs that He is YHWH, lmso.

The striking, absolute and overwhelming power of the pronouncing "I AM" (i.e. ehyeh, from Ehyeh Asher-Ehyeh, I AM that I AM aka YHWH) at John 18:5-6, caught them by surprise, that the extent of the effect of "I AM," made them go backward and yakata fall to the ground. Praise God. Alleluia.

Blabbermouth:
There is nothing truthful you know about Yahweh that they don't know.

Like I said, just like many others, all those I mentioned are witnesses of Yahweh. I.O.W - Yahweh's witnesses.

livingchrist:
watch tower called them superior beings, are forces of nature superior beings?

so you know better than jw.org?
Your organisation said psalm 84 v4 is about spiritual beings that dwelt in heaven with God

achorladey:
That's what you need is captured in bold

Ihedinobi3:
*1
So, the issue is no longer that Psalm 8:5 says that I'm wrong. It's now that you want to quarrel over the identity of angels. Hard pass.


Of all the JWs I have met and engaged on this forum, you are by far the worst. You're like the raw sewage at the bottom of a vile septic tank. I have had far better engagements with JWs than you. And I have had regrettable ones with others who seem to aspire to be you. You quarrel not only with the people you choose to challenge but also with anyone who comments or even likes their posts. The very sight of you on this forum is repugnant.

As far as, Psalms 8:5 is concerned, you are very wrong !
Going by your DUBIOUS logic,
Angels are sons of God. Does it say any individual angel is son of God?

Because @ John 20:17 and Revelation 3:5,12 , Jesus Christ disproves your "I am" FALSE claim, that is the reason "the very sight of you on this forum is repugnant"
, According to the WAYO man wey know the Hebrew language more than the Jews

This post 2 & 3 here ,is the reason for your anger and vile insults

*2)
Bros, go and organize Hebrew lecture classes to teach the Jews their language wey them know pass you.

*3)
Exodus 3:14-15 is clarified by Acts3:13 and Jesus Christ @ John 20:17 and Revelation 3:5,12 says you are twisting John8:58..
Jesus the servant of "I am" has distanced himself from Ihedinobi's DUBIOUS claim

achorladey:
The challenge you should place before him is, he should not show up in any thread where TRINITY is being discussed again since it has been DEBUNKED

Abi no be the same TRINITY?

livingchrist:
watch tower called them superior beings, are forces of nature superior beings?

livingchrist:
angelic beings are called winds

Psalm 104vv4 is not talking of forces of nature but angelic beings like michael, gabriel and the rest.


This below is from your organisation
Who are the angels?

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT ANGELS
Before God created the physical universe and the first humans, he had already created a higher order of intelligent creatures. They are more powerful than humans, and they inhabit the same realm as God himself​—a realm inaccessible and invisible to mankind. (Job 38:4, 7) The Bible calls those superior beings “spirits” and “angels.”​—Psalm 104:4. *
www.jw.org

Ihedinobi3:
1)
Psalms 8:5 says that angels (that is, plural) are el'ohim. Does it say that any individual angel is el'ohim?



*2
I don't believe you when you say that "el" means "mighty one". I believe that you are lying about that. Lying, I said, not mistaken, because you and I have talked a few times on this platform and you have repeated this lie every time.


*3
The Lord Jesus called Himself "I Am" (John 8:58) which is the Name YHWH.

But, as I said, you know all this, so I know that you're a willful liar and also an abusive debater, so I have no intent to engage you beyond this point unless you say something worth responding to for the benefit of others.

Blabbermouth:
If so, the likes of MuttleyLaff, Shadeyinka, Emusan, Johnw47, livingChrist, solite3, JesusJnr, and co. are all witnesses for Yahweh i.o.w - Yahweh's witnesses.

Hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha

Don't DECEIVE yourself.

Read this screenshot by "brocab", a Triune idol devotee on this forum condemning their Trinity Fraud.


Triune idol worshippers and devotees don't know Yahweh , the Only True God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Jesus Christ and JWs.

Ihedinobi3:
Well, I don't believe that the Bible teaches that the Archangel Michael is Jesus Christ. From where I stand, it is ridiculous in the extreme.

As for what the Lord Jesus said, He didn't say that before Abraham He was or had been, He said that before Abraham He IS. He was saying the exact same thing as He said in the burning bush to Moses --

14 And God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.” And He said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, I AM has sent me to you.’ ”
Exodus 3:14 (NKJV)

and through Paul in Hebrews --

8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
Hebrews 13:8 (NKJV)

That is what I actually see in the Bible.

livingchrist:
ask yourself, Angels are called wind does it mean they are mindless forces like breeze?

livingchrist:
mighty one and mighty God are not the same, only Jehovah is called the mighty God.