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livingchrist:
Jesus flesh and bones is his body, there is no. complication there.
Jehovah witness organisation are teaching errors, leading souls to damnation.

According to livingchrist:
Luke 24:36-39, Jesus is a Spirit with flesh and bones ("dwelling in a human nature" after his resurrection.


Bros, you don't even understand that which you claim to believe.

Your So called "disembodied spirit" is a gross error.
1 Corinthians 15:44 " spirits have spiritual bodies. Humans have fleshly bodies."

Humans beings are NOT spirits.
Bros, no dey DECEIVE yourself

johnw47:
^^ he is dead (spiritually)
and look at all their non stop insane laughter at things that are not funny
let alone hilariously funny, and that could only be funny to a mad man

brocab:
I believed you died?

livingchrist:
Jesus was not a spirit (disembodied one) but a Spirit dwelling in a human nature.

Every human has spirit and a human body.


So mr dappa Jesus spirit was a life giving one.

Jesus can be called a life giving Spirit same way a human can be called flesh and blood, it does not mean that humans do not have a spirit same way Jesus is called a life giving Spirit does not mean he does not have a body

Emusan:
And do you lost these verses in your Bible as well?

Many people will come from everywhere to enjoy the feast in the kingdom of heaven with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Matt 8:11

3. Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

10. Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Matt 5:3,10

I guess the people who will gain heavenly life aren't MEEK, that's why Jehovah has to take them to where He is.

LYING Pastorpreneur

Matt 5:3,5. Revelation 1:1,5-6. 14:1-3.
(Compare 2Peter 3:13. Isaiah 65:15-17.
Have you confirmed that Matthew 5:3,5. as well as 2Peter 3:13 and Isaiah 65:15-17 is about the righteous dwelling in heaven and earth?


Jesus Christ teaching is that righteous people will dwell in Heaven and earth. (Rev1:1. 14:1-3. Matthew 5:3,5. Compare Isaiah 65:15-17).

brocab:
I believed you died?

KNOWMORE56:
My brother, the JWs teachings are completely opposite of what the Bible says.

I think their main goal is to have something different from other Bible users.

They have taught them hatred for other Bible users.

It's good as you continue to point out these things. Some people don't know these things.

I wanted to create a thread related to this but thanks be to God you have posted this.

Their teaching that Jesus is mediator for the GB and few others it's the most dangerous of all the falsehood.

Indirectly, they are saying Jesus' death is not for others.

The GB get mind o... they dey Newyoke de enjoy and tell their followers to forget about heaven.

God forbid bad thing...!

Ken4Christ:
There is the teachings by Jehovah Witness that heaven is meant just for 144,000 people. This is a lie from the pit of hell. Below are proofs that every one who believes is qualified for the Kingdom of Heaven;

1. The Bible says that the rapture is for all saints both dead and living - 1st Thessalonians 4:13-16, 1st Corinthians 15:51-57.
2. Hebrews 3:1 calls the Hebrew church, partakers of the heavenly calling.
3. Colossians 1:5 reminds the church that there is hope laid up for them in heaven.
4 1st Peter 1:4 says our inheritance is reserved in heaven.

Every child of God is a citizen of heaven. Don't listen to the lies of Jehovah Witness.

LYING Pastorpreneur

Matt 5:3,5 (Compare 2Peter 3:13. Isa 65:15-17)
" Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth"

Psalm 37:29
"And the righteous ones inherit the Earth and dwell upon it for eternity."

Matthew 5:5 and Psalms 37:29 , Jesus Christ , Peter, Isaiah and the Psalmist are saying the same message of JWs that cause sifia pains for Triune idol worshippers and Pastorpreneurs DECEIVING themselves

MaxInDHouse:
That's exactly the form of worship Elijah's contemporaries prefer!
Today you worship with CCC, next Sunday C&S, upper Sunday MFM, next Synagogue, next RCCG, next Deeperlife, next Catholic, next Anglican, next Chosen.
That's politicians ways of worship, they want to be loved by all so even if Muslims invite them to the mosque they'll be present after all they also need support from that side too and gradually you find out that by the end of the day homos, lesbians and bestialists will all become normal life!

haddeylium:
Leave trinitarian outta this. I don't care about your stand
and this isn't about Jesus position as you said but his nature.

We agreed on Jesus being human in his Human existence.

So, what's nature in his prehuman existence in heaven...
Human or Spirit being?

Blabbermouth:
Humans are like apes, it doesn't make them ape-creatures, they remain humans!
Until you sustain the wisdom to tell me the kind of being they truly became, your doctrine remains an error.
(You should have come for haddey's rescue when we were engaging each other. The only person that stood with him I.e. jano', was a minus and he(Jano') lost it in no time and had to scamper for crumbs)

livingchrist:
good, atleast you agree that Christ didnt lie.
Yes truly, angels do sometimes appear as men either in visions or physically to deliver a message and were called men accordingly.

Jesus resurrected body had new abilities, among which is ability to be concealed. *1Even before Jesus death he could literally walk on water, does that mean he was a spirit? No.

Jesus was made a quickening spirit not he wasnt a disembodied spirit *2even before his death he was a quickening Spirit.
He very much had a body which is his resurrected body.
No angel has ever said they had flesh and bones but Jesus said it. *3
If Jesus just appeared in flesh and bones he could have told his disciples a accordingly

The Bros contradict himself, LYING and deceit are serious offense in the laws of God and man.

.*3.
I will let your Bible expose your False, LYING claim..

Bros livingchrist, according to Luke 24:36-39, did Jesus Christ appear to the disciples in flesh and bones?

Bros continue LYING & DECEIVING yourselves

achorladey:
the purpose of the image posted done and dusted. You can get attestation letter from blabbermouth

MaxInDHouse:
The person you're responding to have seen the picture you posted and have been mocking just as you proposed but after my explanation he can now see that there is nothing he himself can say against the artistic impression on the publication, shame on apostasy!

livingchrist:
I only replied barrister, so I do not know where the argument is coming from.

@bolded can you come up with the verse that said Jesus was raised a spirit.
It is good not to misquote God's word, that is how the devil decieve people.

this is an unwarranted theory to cover up the erroneous teaching that debunks Jesus physical resurrection.
The question I want you to answer, when Jesus died, did he die as a Spirit or as a human?
There is nothing like resurrecting as a spirit since Spirits do not die.
Ca

are you saying Jesus lied in order to instill a false notion?
You are in essence saying Jesus only decieved his disciples with appearance.

My last question to you and other jws is

Did Jesus lied that he had flesh and bones or not?

Ken4Christ:
You don't know how to defend your lies. It's a shame to identify with a group that has had failed prophecies several times.

Embrace Christ and run away from this deceitful organization known as Jehovah Witness.

Luke 24:21. 19:11. John 16:16-18, Jehovah's servants are not perfect even though Jesus Christ led them.
Jehovah's servants today are no exception.
Your claim is therefore borne out of prejudice and bigotry.
If to say this attention seeking Pastorpreneur predicted coronavirus and it came to pass, we for take you serious

you get SENSE and liver, coman deny your own Bible no get Luke 19:11 and 24:21

Luke 24:21 Did Jesus rescue Israel from Roman oppression?
Did the Apostles lie ?

Luke 19:11 , did the Apostles lie that God's kingdom will arrive immediately?

Bros , this is year 2020, has the kingdom arrived immediately?

Ken 4 even lied that 2018 is a year of glory.
When him lies failed to come true, him no get the liver to predict 2020.



I challenge Ken4 to present his past predictions from the Bible revealed to him by his Triune spirits which came to fullfilment..
Cheap Attention seeking Pastorpreneur

achorladey:
You never see anything


Tell me where in the SCRIPTURE that States JEHOVAH'S WITNESS group as the only true religion

Ken4Christ:
Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society publications have made a series of predictions about Christ's Second Coming and the advent of God's Kingdom, each of which has gone unfulfilled. Almost all the predictions for 1878, 1881, 1914, 1918 and 1925 were later reinterpreted as a confirmation of the eschatological framework of the Bible Student movement and Jehovah's Witnesses, with many of the predicted events viewed as having taken place invisibly. Further expectations were held for the arrival of Armageddon in 1975, but resulted in a later apology to members from the society's leadership. (Excerpt from Wikipedia)

Run away from this group. They are confirmed first class liars.

Ken 4 led by Triune spirits (alias Church virus) no even fit predict coronavirus

Continue DECEIVING yourself

achorladey:
I leave my sense BEHIND the little I have now can only process ONE SCRIPTURE. This is the task again

Tell me where in the SCRIPTURE that States JEHOVAH'S WITNESS group as the only true religion

achorladey:
I don touch NERVES the sense I left behind brought that image that made you post another below.


Where is the WINGS at the back of JESUS depicted in yours which is present here?

achorladey:
The below is for you. What did you SEE? A man or an ANGEL?


The corulers aka 144,000 are, MAN or ANGELS. They never cease to AMAZE

achorladey:
One scripture that States JEHOVAH'S WITNESS is the only TRUE RELIGION

Isaiah 43:10-12 . Acts 15:14. Acts3:13.

John 17:6,26.
All Jehovah's witnesses are proud to bear the name of the only true God and our heavenly Father.

Jehovah's witnesses are the only chosen Servants of the only true God.

Go and ask Noah and his family of Jehovah's witnesses who survived the great Deluge
Matthew 24:36-39 (Compare 2 Peter 2:5-6)Did Jesus Christ say there will be A REPEAT of what took place in Noah's day?

2 Peter 2:5-6
And God did not spare the ancient world—except for Noah and the seven others in his family. Noah warned the world of God’s righteous judgment. So God protected Noah when he destroyed the world of ungodly people with a vast flood. 6 Later, God condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah and turned them into heaps of ashes. He made them an example of what will happen to ungodly people"

If you refuse to accept what your own Bible says, na your wahala be that.

Blabbermouth:
Blabbermouth and co. do not have conflicting doctrines (on Isaiah 9:6).

You remain a coward if you do not find that post and tell me how I contradicted myself.

brocab:
It's been proven all over the world-Jehovah Witness's are a cult based religion..

MuttleyLaff:
"May they know that You alone-- whose name is Yahweh-- are the Most High over all the earth."
- Psalms 83:18

"I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob as El-Shaddai—‘God Almighty’—
but I did not reveal my name, Yahweh, to them."
- Exodus 6:3

There you easily have it. done. Now, if you equally have liver, strong liver that is, like we do have, not a lilly livered one, you defo have, then provide scripture anywhere said that His name is the artificial Latinized name Jehovah, lmso

Ken4Christ:
How did God said he should be addressed to Pharoah when Moses asked if they demand for the identity of who sent him?

MuttleyLaff:
The Hebrew letters designated for God, as I've earlier intimated you about, after transliteration is the word Yhvh or YHWH. The name Jehovah is a legacy word inherited from the period of Romanization influence of which your organisation later on adopted. There is no letter J, in Hebraic alphabet, so Jehovah cannot at all, in the real sense possibly be God's name. Just because Jehovah, allegedly is popular and widely acceptance, doesnt take away the fact and truth it is bogus, that its an invented and artificial Latinized name.

Jehovah is proper and fitting , for the same reason you accept and mouth "Jesus" upandan.

If Muttleylaff had never called the son of God by his latinized name, Jesus,(borrowed from Greek Iesous) his hypocrisy and dubious rants could have been excused.

You can not be mouthing Jesus a Latinized name and simultaneously claim Jehovah is "artificial Latinized name.

Is your Jesus not "artificial Latinized name?
Hypocrite
The screenshots evidence proves it

MuttleyLaff:
Please don't fool yourself, tell them that "I AM what I AM or I'll be become what I'll become" sent you, is not God's personal name abeggy

YHWH, the Tetragrammaton, which is a composition of those four YHWH letters, that form the Hebrew word, from which the four letters transliterated as YHWH and articulated as Yahweh, is not God's personal name

On three different and separate occasions, what is God's personal name was asked and on each different and separate occasions, the request to reveal what the personal name of God was not granted.

Fyi the word Yahweh, is a descriptor and is not all God's personal name. The word comes from a root word that means "to become," which is from how God told Moshe aka Moses to the tell the Israelites that "I will become what I choose to become" is who sent him to them when he asked for God's name. God sidestepped giving Moshe aka Moses any name but instead offered him the Yahweh descriptor (i.e. I AM that I AM or I AM who I AM or even I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE or I will become what I choose to become)

Muttley GIBBERISH everywhere.
Bros go and wear double specs to read and study Exodus 3 14-15 until it sinks in...

Ken4Christ:
Did the Scripture there said that his name is Jehovah?

Blabbermouth:
1. Glory is not a space-defined something. If you are above angels, you are above angels on earth, in heaven, the milky way and everywhere else.
Janosky, learn something new - Glory is not a realm-dependent concept.

2. Where? No problem, I will let the Master himself speak

John 17:8
For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
According to your folly of believing you are glorified in a particular place -

1. According to the above scripture Jesus was INSIDE God before the world was created.
Jesus had the glory before the creation of the world INSIDE God!
You see your life?

2. According to Janosky's folly - Since the glory he had before the world was WAS INSIDE God, when Jesus will be glorified again with that same glory, He will be glorified inside God
You see your life again? Shey you know what the above means, don't you?

Bonus: Since the disciples will be anywhere Jesus is, and Jesus himself is going back into the father to go and reclaim his glory, the disciples will also go into the father to see Jesus' Glory
You see where your folly has led you?

Like I said from the beginning, in the quest for truth, you will be needing a lot of Wisdom!
Which one do you have in you? That of God or of mere men?



Anywhere he (Jesus) is.

From the moment he rose, he has begun to enter into that glory he spoke of. Newsflash! He hasn't fully entered into that said glory, as there are still things he needs to complete in his ministry.
I'm sure you don't know what " glory" is.

I do see you in other threads, many times rushing to using lexicon and Greek translations to prove a point or force a stalemate in discussions.
I thought there was much weightiness in you, and you might not just be another barrel with no content. I was wrong! I have entered you and seen there is actually nothing there.

Do you know what you are doing right now? You are trying to divert and force another argument to cover up the mess your nonsense doctrine has put you in.



Here are examples of New Man
1. Apostle Peter
2. John
3. Apostle Paul
4. Stephen.

Changing your habit, trying to live a good life, or trying to be righteous will never make you A Peter, A John, A Paul, A Stephen.

Go figure, what makes Peter - peter is not his changing of habit or his own endeavor to live a righteous life.

Tip: There are principal things the 4 of them share in common, dig it out yourself and you will knwo who the NEW MAN is and what He is made of.

I could have taken my time to expound the NEW MAN to you, but then, it will just be giving a herbivorous animal some meat.

PS: You are boring, I won't reply you again.

Corinthians 15:44
44They are buried as natural human bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are also spiritual bodies.

45The Scriptures tell us, “The first man, Adam, became a living person.”h But the last Adam—that is, Christ—is a life-giving Spirit.

50What I am saying, dear brothers and sisters, is that our physical bodies cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. These dying bodies cannot inherit what will last forever."


[b]John 17:4-5,24, Jesus Christ is saying that Blabbermouth New Man is spirit theory is a well packaged scam.
According to John 17:4-5,24 the Bros is saying that God and Jesus are New Mens.

1 Corinthians 15:44-45,50
Your New Man FRAUD have been convincingly Exposed forever.

Blabbermouth:
A**
Glory is not a space-defined something. If you are above angels, you are above angels on earth, in heaven, the milky way and everywhere else.
Janosky, learn something new - Glory is not a realm-dependent concept.

2. Where? No problem, I will let the Master himself speak

John 17:8
For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
According to your folly of believing you are glorified in a particular place -

1B. According to the above scripture Jesus was INSIDE God before the world was created.
Jesus had the glory before the creation of the world INSIDE God!
You see your life?

2A According to Janosky's folly - Since the glory he had before the world was WAS INSIDE God, when Jesus will be glorified again with that same glory, He will be glorified inside God
You see your life again? Shey you know what the above means, don't you?

Bonus: Since the disciples will be anywhere Jesus is, and Jesus himself is going back into the father to go and reclaim his glory, the disciples will also go into the father to see Jesus' Glory
You see where your folly has led you?

Blabbermouth:
Kiss this again;
John 4:24
God is spirit, those that worship must worship with spirit and truth

This kind of worship happens in heaven! Be my guest, tell me how a man (that DOES NOT HAVE SPIRIT) can worship a SPIRIT God in SPIRIT.

Truth has caught up with falsehood today, no lying tongue shall be able to gainsay.

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Run into the crowds, you will meet me there. Hide in a ceiling, you will meet me there. Commit suicide, you will meet me in your grave. Cover yourself with thick darkness, you still will meet me there.