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Blabbermouth:
Lol. Ask him to give you the JFT version of those scriptures, you will definitely see it boldly written there.

livingchrist:
I dont see Jehovah witness organization there?

livingchrist:
you are funny, Adam was Son of God, was he then an angel?

When did Jesu say he is not Jehovah?

livingchrist:
why are you pained about it?

MuttleyLaff:
When and/or where did Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ say He is not God?

Dont blame the court jesters for acting like clowns. Blame yourself for going to their circus.

"Kenan was the son of Enosh. Enosh was the son of Seth. Seth was the son of Adam. Adam was the son of God."
- Luke 3:38

Yes, Adam housed in a human body, is living a soul, from being infused with God's spirit, living a legal and having a legitimate mandated terrestrial experience

John 20:17 Jesus answered:
I am ascending to my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God"

Ooh la la !!!


WAYO Muttley GIBBERISH say him knows more than his Maker.
The God of Jesus is not the Triune God of Muttleylaff.. according to his own personal confession.

Ndipe:
Jesus Christ is God's only Begotten Son and that makes Him distinct from the rest of the angels. He is superior, way way higher than the angels according to this Biblical verse, "Having become as much better than the angels, as He has inherited a more excellent name than they."
–Hebrews 1:4

livingchrist:
Atleast you see that Jesus spirit survives death.

You are not serious , you think the breath of life is breeze?
The breath of life was used in metaphorical way to enable us relate with it using our physical breath.

The breath of life is what God used in creating the spirit of man,
It is what enables the spirit of man to stay in the body.
It does not mean the breath of life is actually the spirit of man.
The book of proverb says man and animals have the one breath but their spirits are different.


read what Daniel has to say concerning his spirit.

Daniel 2:3
And the king said unto them, I have dreamed a dream, and my spirit was troubled to know the dream.

Daniel 7:15
I Daniel was grieved in my spirit in the midst of my body, and the visions of my head troubled me.


1. The spirit of man do have experience for daniel was troubled in his spirit.
2.The spirit is in the midst of the body[/b

3. The spirit experience grief


Unlike the breath of life which activates life and is metaphorically said to be in [b]the nostrils



Genesis 2:7
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Job 33:4
The Spirit of God has made me, And the breath of the Almighty gives me life.
Job33:4. Psalm 104:29 ,Luke 23:46, Genesis2:7 ,
God did not install a living spiritual being inside Jesus or inside man.
Or you mean that God is 2 spirits, John 4:24 Jesus says you lied.
Luke 23:46 simply means Jesus breathed out the breath of life, and expired. Simple.

Please, JWs NEVER said breath of life is just breeze. Take note.

There is no spiritual being grieving or troubled inside a man .... 2 Cor 2:13 and Daniel 7:15, Paul and Daniel thoughts respectively were worried and agitated. (Your fellow Trinitarian believers, @ Studylight.org explained it thoroughly, you saw it yourself.

Bros, the Maggi, pepper and spices you are placing into the Scriptures is uncalled for.

livingchrist:
Did Abraham, noah, sarah know God as Jehovah?
Can you show me anywhere in the bible where Jesus mention God's name as Jehovah?
I m waiting for your reply

haddeylium:
So..??...
you're not making sense.

you're yet to explain why you use Jesus, Jeremiah, Jacob, Joshua in your text!
Is there letter 'J' in hebraic alphabet?

MuttleyLaff:
It doesnt take away the fact and honest truth that the name and word "Jehovah" you're using all time is an invented and bogus word, lmso and that it makes the whole Jehovah's Witnesses doctrine, theology et cetera, being built upon a wack, shaky, suspect, shallow and faulty foundation of fraud, WAYO, cunning and make-believe, considering that there is no letter J, in Hebraic alphabet, and powerfully so indicating then, that Jehovah cannot at all, in any real sense of it, possibly be an authentic name for God, lmso

Apply your Muttley WACKY, DECEPTIVE logic to the Bible in your possession.

No Hebrew names in it begins with letter "Y'....

Continue DECEIVING YOURSELF

MuttleyLaff:
School who in what that other thread?
You cant escape from the truth that the word "JEHOVAH" is bogus, nah. Abi I lie ni, that the name and word "Jehovah" you're using all time is an invented and artificial Latinized name manufactured?

The name and word "Jehovah" you're using all time is an invented word, lmso. This

I am pasting the same bare face truth fact thing, that makes the whole Jehovah's Witnesses doctrine, theology et cetera, being built upon a wack, shaky, suspect, shallow and faulty foundation of fraud, WAYO, invention and make-believe, considering that there is no letter J, in Hebraic alphabet, and powerfully so indicating then, that Jehovah cannot at all, in any real sense of it, possibly be an authentic name for God, lmso.

For crying out loud, the word "Jehovah" only crept into the English bible and vocabulary in the 1500s.

livingchrist:
These are not new satan can manifest himself as an angel of light how much more his ministers.

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

All those false love, peace unity etc are nothing but manipulation.
Jwo was not founded on Jesus but on satan's lies and deception.

This screenshot Evidence exposure
Where is the love among Triune idol worshippers who bicker on a period they all claim to preach and practice love?

Depsui ,come here and lie you don't belong with them fake love

Depsui:
Use the bible not people's commentaries

Both Bible commentaries were written by Trinitarian adherents like Depsui
;

The commentaries support what your Bible says, not the FRAUD you claim.

Come here and lie that JWs wrote Psalms 104:29, Genesis2:7 which illuminates Luke23:46 in your Bible.

Genesis2:7, Psalms 109:24, Luke23:46 "
Spirit= breath"
Shikena.
You have the option to console yourself with your Fraudulent twist of Luke23:46 & Continue DECEIVING yourself

MuttleyLaff:
The sons of God in Job 1:6, that came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them, were human beings, just as Job was (i.e. greatest of the whole and all sons from the east, long ago or formerly - Job 1:3) Period.

livingchrist:
Jesus did not tell us to look for group.

livingchrist:
there is no scripture that says Jesus is an angel, humans are also called sons of God does that mean they are Angels too?
.+

If Jehovah is the Mighty God therefore does it not occur to you that there can be no other Mighty God?
But Jesus Jesus is also called, Mighty God a title exclusively met for Jehovah.
That only means one thing, Jesus is Jehovah of the old testament.

Depsui:
The reason why i said glorified body is that, He can live forever in His resurrected body which is not possible with the natural body.

livingchrist:
No, angels are never called mighty God, there is only one Mighty God and that is Jehovah.

Jehovah alone is called the mighty God no other.
Psalm 110:1 is a messianic verse, that speak of Christ position as a man.

Ihedinobi3:
[b]You're right, of course. No individual man or angel was ever called by the Bible itself el'ohim either. [/b]Of course, different characters in the Bible were reported as calling all sorts of things and people all sorts of names, just like the medium of Endor called Samuel el'ohim, but that does not mean that the Bible acknowledges those things or people addressed in that manner. The Bible only recognizes our God as el'ohim.

As for the term, "gibbor," it is a near synonym for "el." The latter is essentially used in terms of divinity while the former seems to address "strength" and "power" without necessarily involving a divine component. So, living men could be called "gibborim" without any real fear of being misunderstood to be divine entities. Still the context can decide who is meant when gibbor or gibborim is used. But when "el gibbor" is used, there can be no doubt that it is only a divine one that is meant.

DUBIOUSLY insidious..
Psalms8:5 says angels are what?

Depsui:
What am saying is that the spiritual body is the glorified body. Don't be confused by thinking that spiritual body means spirit.

Spiritual body means a type of body(flesh) that is spiritual. This is the same type of body that the saints will put on at the second coming of Christ



2corithians 5:2-4
2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:

3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.

4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.

This means that the body would not be discarded, but will changed to an immortal body. This is what happened with Jesus Christ. His crucified body was not discarded but it changed to an immortal (or glorified body).

Why do you FALSELY claim Jesus lived as fleshly glorified body before the world was?

John 17:24
Bros, Why do LIE that Jesus and the saints would live in the flesh in heaven where Jesus is?


Jesus Christ says NO Way !
Your lies are standing on quick sand.
Can you see the FRAUD the pastor teacher is praising you for?
.

Depsui:
God created spirits to live forever. Infact, the real you is a spirit, that has a soul and lives in a body.

Everyone will live forever, some in heaven, some in hell fire.

Philippians 1:22-24

22 But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not.

23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:

24 Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you.

The real paul( who is a spirit) wanted to leave his body and go to be with the Lord.

livingchrist:
I thought you said nothing survives death, so after all the spirit does not die but returns to God.
But you lie, the spirit of man and that of animals are different

Ecclesiastes 3:21
Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?

There is the spirit of man and the spirit of animals.

livingchrist:
thanks , I just do it because of some unsuspecting victim who may not understand the Jehovah witness are not of God. GOD BLESS

livingchrist:
I cant help you pain, deal with it.
So after all these many talks, death is not total annihilation, something survives death, interesting.
@1)
I thought your friend said nothing survives death, that when a man dies everything about him go out of existence so what is Jehovah destroying again in the lake of fire?

@2)
But again, you summersualted by saying the spirit of man survives death, good! So the spirit of Jesus did not die right?
So what died when Jesus died?
The jargons you wrote there does not even come close.
Human being can only kill the body not soul, so Jesus body died not his soul right?
So therefore it is the body that experiences resurrection.

I m sure you are drunk, jehovah witness dont know Jack about the bible, it should be the other way round, humble yourselves and go to real church to learn.

livingchrist:
Their magazine is one big debris of arguments, counter argument and criticism, they so much hate Christianity but cant help going back to source from materials from the very thing they hate.
They quote other translations of bible which they deemed as satans book but too ashamed to stick to their perverted new world translation.
That is their way, bunch of pharisee hypocrites.

Sifia painment of a living Hypocrite

Depsui:
Man is a spirit

Act 17:16 Now while Paul waited for them at Athens, his spirit was stirred in him, when he saw the city wholly given to Idolatry.

Rom 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

1Co 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

1Co 6:20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

2Co 2:13 I had no rest in my spirit, because I found not Titus my brother: but taking my leave of them, I went from thence into Macedonia.

All this verses clearly states that the spirit is different from the body and soul. If you meditate on them, you'll also realise that its not just a life force or whatever you think it is.

MaxInDHouse:
Janosky, you dey try o!
So you took the pain to read through the gibberish the Churchgoer typed!
Do you know i don't read their comments once i notice they want to prove they know something, the last time i took the pain to read all comments was when Shadeyinka threw a challenge at JWs.
And that's because he mentioned the name of his Church :- ECWA
I later stopped reading his gibberish when he said "my Church doctrines doesn't define me"
That indicates that the teaching can't be traced to any specific religious group, rather doctrines based on things gathered from various point of views and built up to fabricate his own personal conviction!

Ihedinobi3:
I've never seen it in the Bible that individual Israelites were delivered because of their association with the nation of Israel. I know that God promised Abraham that He would bless those who bless him and curse those who curse him, and I know that He treats even unbelieving Israelites specially because they are Israelites, but the Lord has in fact been harder on Israelites than on Gentiles in the matter of holiness. Unbelieving Israelites were supposed to be stoned to death according to the Law of Moses. And when Israel did not follow that Law, the Lord still destroyed very many Israelites who sinned against him, beginning from the Exodus until the final deportation from the Land of Israel. So, I am pretty sure that you are wrong about that bit. Being part of an organization does not grant or prove salvation. In fact, it's the opposite: when you're saved, you become part of the organization that is blessed by the Lord, the Church, the Israel of God.

Only by the individual's free will exercise of faith in (1)Jesus Christ Who is God that became Man to die for our sins is anyone saved, just as the whole Bible teaches.

18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 3:18 (NKJV)

I do share fellowship with a group of fellow believers scattered around the world too, but we are not a church in the traditional sense. We are a church only in the sense of believers who gather together to encourage one another in Christ. I have said all that elsewhere and many times over. The pastor-teacher under whose ministry we are all growing spiritually and also being trained as pastor-teachers (for those of us who have the gift) is at https://ichthys.com. Some of us there also hang out at www.bibleacademyonline.com, which is an independent pastor-teaching ministry that is of very common cause with the Ichthys ministry too.

So, no, I don't believe that being part of any organization here on earth saves anybody. I don't see that in the Bible. Interestingly, all cults including the Roman Catholic Church that your church hates too, believe the same madness. The Bible teaches that we each individually choose whether we want to be saved or not. Joining an organization is not how it teaches that that choice must be exercised either. It is only exercised by a conscious choice to trust in and submit to the Jesus revealed in the Bible.

Depsui:
That's talking about a different thing entirely.

We have a physical body now, after resurrection we will have a spiritual body. But our spirits will never die

livingchrist:
Jesus said spirits including Angels do not have flesh and bones like he had.
It should be clear enough.

livingchrist:
you are very predictable, your are clamoring like a foolish woman lie cannot be substituted for truth.

1 Corinthians 15:44
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

Where was it written that spirits has spiritual body?
How does 'there is a natural body and there is a spiritual body translate to spirits has spiritual body?
Infact the natural body refers to the body of Adam and the spiritual body refers to the body of christ.

livingchrist:
Jesus flesh and bones is his body, there is no. [/b]complication there.
Jehovah witness organisation are teaching errors, leading souls to damnation.

Luke 24:36-39,
Jesus is a Spirit with flesh and bones just as the angels called men ("dwelling in a human nature" @ John 20:12 and Luke24:4,23.
Jesus appear to the disciples in "flesh and bones", in the same form that angels appears to the disciples @ Luke24:4,23 and John 20:12.

[b]Bros, do Spirits have blood in their bodies?

Bros no dey DECEIVE yourself