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Blabbermouth:
I signed up for bible discussions that God through Christ can be glorified, I never knew there will be a need for short English Lessons.

Hebrews 1:2
Now at the end of these days he has spoken to us by means of a son, 1. whom he appointed heir of all things, 2. and through whom he made the system of things;

The two clauses (separated by a comma which I numbered) are called Relative/Adjectival clauses.
What do they do? They qualified (I.e Gave specific and more info. about) the noun "A son".
That is to say;
God spoke to us through a son.... It poses the question - WHICH SON? The clauses then gave us that information - The one that God appointed heir of all things, and also made the system of things through him.
Now you know the son being referred to!

Then we have a semi-colon ( ; ). I hope you know what it does - to then enumerate on the subject of discussion situated before the colon I.e. The son.

Hebrews 1:3
He (That son) is the reflection of God's glory and the exact representation of his very being .....

Like I said, the image there was not on HOW GOD LOOKS LIKE, but it's on WHO HE IS....

Now, hear the master himself speak on the matter:
John 14:8-9
8. Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us
9. Jesus said unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? He that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou, show us the Father?
Jesus spoke this in flesh and blood!
Going by the error you are dearly sticking to, can we then say
1. God has flesh and blood, since he is just like Jesus in image and Jesus is just like him.
2. God has beards, two hands, two legs, a circumised penis et all
God forbid!

Christ Jesus said - seeing him is equal to seeing the father, because He (Christ) is his father's exact image!

You see that now, the "exact representation of his very being/ express image of his person" is in context referring to WHO GOD IS, not HOW HE LOOKS
PS: Christ Jesus was, Christ Jesus is, Christ Jesus will continue to be the exact representation of his very being.

Before earth
On earth
After ascension
He has been and always will be - the express image of His (God's) Person.

Truth!

Ken4Christ:
But Jesus most of the times called him Father and not Jehovah. So we too can call him father. And the name Jesus is the name that God said we should call upon.

Acts 4:10-12.
10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. View more

1 Corinthians 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

MuttleyLaff:
"²⁴That is why I told you that you will die in your sins,
for unless you believe that I AM, you'll die in your sins.""
- John 8:24

"³²But Jesus responded,
“I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone Me?”
³³“We are not stoning You for any good work, said the Jews, “but for blasphemy,
because You, who are a man, declare Yourself to be God."
- John 10:32-33

Janosky, customer mi, daada ni, need I go on? Need I say more?

I'll you what for free, lmso. Your stumbling block is not grasping at all the meaning and/or implication of the Greek word , lmso, "exercomai" (i.e. come (forth, out), depart (out of), escape, get out, go (abroad, away, forth, out, thence), proceed (forth), to go or come forth of, with mention of the place out of which one goes, or the point from which one departs)

Dont worry Janosky, you'll sooner or later, drop those stones in your hand, lmso, when you realise that Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, had always revealed Himself God, lmso

Blabbermouth:
Independent Christians like - Peter, Paul, Blabbermouth and co. do not have conflicting doctrines.
John 3:16 - *Anyone* that believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life.

If only he said - Anyone that does not believe in the group of Charles Russell, he will not have everlasting life; then we won't be having your type doing cheap marketing for your group.

Blabbermouth:
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I read John 17:24 and I laughed out loud. Here is what to do - write out John 17:24, Luke 24:26 and explain (in details please) how it punctures a hole in the truth.

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Let's see how long cunning gainsaying can last.

Change your habits, attitude, way of life to conform to Righteousness standard of God - all these are the core teachings of Confucianism, yet it doesn't make a confucainist a NEW MAN! Glory!

Change you habits, attitude, way of life to conform to Righteousness standard of God - Do all these without Christ and you will still be annihilated. It doesn't make you a NEW MAN!

You still don't know who the NEW MAN is!
PS: I ought to reply differently with numerous scriptures and truthful and essential exegesis, but then, I will hold from doing that now.

To claim your New Man is a spirit person is as DUBIOUS as the FALSE claim that the New Earth is in spiritual realm

achorladey:
Simple option to pick out from, no way, you decided to go into your usual narrative. When you see DECEPTION you won't recognize it paapaa.


“Shimeon has related to you how God began to choose from the Gentiles a people for his name.”


1 Peter 4:14, 16......says something about the name

If you are being reproached* for the name of Christ, you are happy,+ because the spirit of glory, yes, the spirit of God, is resting upon you........NWT


But if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not feel ashamed,+ but let him keep on glorifying God while bearing this name.......NWT

I don't need to SHOUT Jesus, Jesus. The name to bear is up there

I repeat if you see DECEPTION, you no go know


To rephrase 1 Peter 4:16 to fit your theology......


But if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not feel ashamed,+ but let him keep on glorifying JEHOVAH while bearing this name([b]Christian) not Jehovah's witness[/b].......NWT



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Back to your a [b]people for his name goes into the realm of DECEPTION if the name you are talking about is Jehovah's witness
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Make una see this WAYO Achorladey

Ephesians 5:1-2, Achorladey last paragraph is authentic proof he is just paying lipservice to Jesus Christ whose example he's not willing to practice.
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KNOWMORE56:
There's something about this guy... any time he does something, he'll quickly accuse another person of that.

Any time he accuses someone of fraud/deception/misquotation; check very well you'll see that he has committed that very thing.

Or he'll insult you and go his way... hahahaha!

Janosky is one of the Nland GB...!

judejamy:
I do not care who is not happy about this, but I have to dish it out.

Many of us suffer in our relationships and marriages and careers because of the level of desperation and insensitivity with which we have operated in the bid to meet up.

I really decry the level of obscene sexual relationships between our clergy across denominations and our lay faithful across gender.

My dear beautiful girl, if you need to 'put your beauty to use' please, there are men other than the ordained and those intending. Let them focus on their mission. Go home after Sunday Masses and Church Services.
Our pastors and priests were not castrated at ordination. Their organs and feelings are well intact.

Our ordained, do not take our respect and gentleness for weakness and stupidity. Respect our daughters, sisters, mothers, and above all, yourselves who chose the path you follow. We cannot be wasting our prayers and devotions on people who have decided deliberately to stray, nevertheless, we won't stop praying for you.

The consequences (irreversible curses) of your bad choices are suffered severely by those who have not encouraged or aided your sexual impunity.

Stop endangering the unborn generations, wasting the hard work of our husbands, wives and children. They suffer many untold hardships they know not the cause.

My dear young girl/guy, take your sexual exploits elsewhere. Stop attracting curses carelessly.

I have not come in peace, I have come in truth.

Eze Irenaeus C.

Emusan:
Provide the verse that says so!

By the way we're still at 1 Corinthians 15:50 which says "FLESH AND BLOOD can't inherit the kingdom of God"

Which means no FLESH AND BLOOD will live forever on earth, since earth is part of God's kingdom.

MuttleyLaff:
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That "Mr No sense!" tag should be used for you too. Smh sigh.

"I tell you the truth, of all who have ever lived, none is greater than John the Baptist.
Yet even the least person in the Kingdom of Heaven is greater than he is!"
- Matthew 11:11

I bet GB, never gave JW sheepfold sheeple the lowdown on Matthew 11:11. What a big time betrayal and travesty of 2 Timothy 2:15 this is, smh, tut, tut tut, sighs.

Why not fill your boots with the snapshot post, reproduced below, brought from another thread, shedding light on Matthew 11:11 and info the GB muted, hushed and didnt let you see the light of. lmso

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Blabbermouth:
Hey beloved, you must understand that Christ Jesus on earth was the image of God. His prayer in John 17:5 was not to be restored as the image of God, No! He has always been the image of God.
I will show you now....

Out-of-context interpretation is not a good thing, be warned!
Hebrews 1:2
"Now at the end of these days he has spoken to us by means of a son"
When was this? During Christ's earthly ministry! So the verse continued in an expository manner - who being the reflection of his glory, express image of his person..... (still in Christ's journey on earth)
Then the writer probed further saying - .. And AFTER he had made a purification for our sins (Bridge between the earthly era and post ressurection) , he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on High (Here, the writer is now on post earth era, post ressurection).

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Blabbermouth:
Your group is not in God's plan.

There are sacred things, hard things the Lord shares with you as a result of your personal dealings with him, many of them are not for public consumption but for private edification and exhortation.
There was this thread I created titled "Does God really know the future?", the essence of that discussion was something meant for my private dealing, not for teaching or preaching. My interlocutors were not able to prove me wrong, and did not negate the points I raised, yet they will not come to terms with the end of the matter, as it doesn't gel well with their own perspective of God.

The same is the reason why I don't discuss/ want to discuss Christ's pre -earthly era, I stick with essence now than try to prove points.

As spirit? No problem. What kind of being?

Hey beloved, you must understand that Christ Jesus on earth was the image of God. His prayer in John 17:5 was not to be restored as the image of God, No! He has always been the image of God.
I will show you now....

Out-of-context interpretation is not a good thing, be warned!
Hebrews 1:2
"Now at the end of these days he has spoken to us by means of a son"
When was this? During Christ's earthly ministry! So the verse continued in an expository manner - who being the reflection of his glory, express image of his person..... (still in Christ's journey on earth)
Then the writer probed further saying - .. And AFTER he had made a purification for our sins (Bridge between the earthly era and post ressurection) , he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on High (Here, the writer is now on post earth era, post ressurection).

Will you stop this false eisegesis please?! Let the scripture lead you, don't try to tame the truth!

The image of God in that context is not how he looks like, it is WHO HE IS .... You know, Holy, righteous, and all that.
A translation puts it saying - he is the express image of his PERSON.

So, whatever form Jehovah is, so is Jesus.
So, he became God Almighty? The only similarity angels share with God is that they are also spirit beings, that's it. If we are to take God in full form of how he is, and who he is - then you should be ready to dance to the tune of Trinity. Be warned!




Jesus is not just Son of man, but also Son of David(Matt 1:1)

That expression shows that Jesus indeed become flesh in his birth(John 1:14) ...He didn't materialized his human state like some Angels do.

Jesus as Son of man/son of David emphasis his right as when he was in fleshy state to be the heir to the kingdom in David line as successor.

As virtue of being the Son of man, he's now reigning as the

Messianic King.
Look at that part of your message I bolded, can you see you are still using a present continuous tense? Oh Glory, the truth will always prevail.

To operate the messianic kingship, he must continue to be a son of man.

You're not ready

1 Thessalonians 4:16 and John 5:28,29.

Don't read but study it prayerfully
The belief of Jesus being angel Michael, rides on the wings of if X=Y, and Y has a relationship with Z, who knows? X can be = Z.

Let me pay you in your coin.
John 5:28 "Marvel not, for the hour is coming when those in the grave will hear his voice, they shall be ressurected, some ressurected unto life, and some ressurected unto.destruction"

1 Corinthians 15:52
"In a moment, in the blink of an eye, during the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible and we will be changed"
According to the way of forceful eisegesis and mathematical blasphemy.
Since
1. The voice of Christ will raise the dead.
2. The trump of God sounded and the dead rose
We can say;
3. The voice there was the trump of God
4. Jesus is the trumpet.
Hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha
That aside;
1 Thess 4:16
Because the Lord himself will descend from heaven
1. With a commanding call ("a shout" as some other translation put it)
QUESTION: Whose call or whose shout is that?
2. An archangel's voice
3. God's trumpet (The trump of God)

Now you see - 1 Thess 4:16 is not a safe haven for your ***** *******

PS: No where was the voice of the an archangel specifically associated with the ressurection of the dead.

Yunno, it's so bold of you to assume Jesus is a Man in heaven with flesh and blood[b]

You sef reason am...e make sense grin
Flesh and blood? God forbid!

When Jesus was on Earth , He was to be lower than the Angels.(Ps. 8:4, 5; Heb. 2:9wink

Philippians 2:7 -but he emptied himself and took a slave’s form and became human.

Humans with flesh are lower than the Angels (it's a comparison to being slave).

Are you saying Jesus Christ, the King , would remain in human body of flesh?...what a Joke you're.
2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away. Behold, the new has come.
That is the little piece of information you still miss, Christ Jesus ressurected as a NEW MAN, A NEW CREATION! GLORY!

Here was Paul doing a bit of explorative differentiation between the two kind, or model of man
1 Corinthians 2:14-15
But a physical man does not accept the things of the spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot get to know them, because they are examined spiritually.
15. However [u]the spiritual man[/b] examines all things but he himself is not examined by an man.

2. The physical body is for the physical man, while the spiritual body is for the spiritual man (in his glory)!

That was why John said - We (spiritual men) know not (for now) what we shall become, but we know we shall be like him (the first spiritual man) - well, that's when he comes in his glory.

Christ confirmed this when he said to his disciples -
Luke 24:26
"Was it not necessary for Christ to suffer these things and to enter into his glory?
Whose glory? The glory of Christ!

Now, let me deviate a bit and say something that is of much essence;
The office of " The Christ " was an office meant and designed for a man. Thus, even in his glory, the Christ remained a man - howbeit, a glorified man!

Now here is an open mystery - Christ said specifically of the kind of body he now has - FLESH & BONES. Something was missing (well, from that of a common man) and has been replaced by a better substance;
1. What was missing?
2. What replaced the missing substance?

Heaven is a spirit realm for spirit person without human body or flesh; it's this Earth Jehovah created for fleshy Man( Isa. 45:12,18)
The NEW MAN is a spirit person!
The body of the NEW MAN is adapted for the heavens, yea, even the heaven of heavens!

I would not need to say all these If you yield to the spirit of truth and read Acts chapter 2 and 7.
Read it haddeylium, you will be blessed with the revelation of who Christ Jesus ressurected is.

Blabbermouth:
I hope you realized you did not make a point.
I'm in my joker mood tonight, so we won't discuss the matter today.
Now you see, you still don't understand
1. what / who the NEW MAN is
2. The old man is lesser than an angel but the new man (in his glory) is higher than every angel - that includes angel Michael.
3. 1 Thesis 4:16, the archangel's voice was not associated with the ressuection of the dead. There is something I will show you.
4. Do you know why Jesus intentionally said - Flesh and bones? No, if you do, you will understand that the new man's body is not like the old man's.
5. All I've said will never sink because you belong to a group that has put a slave chain on your neck and brainwashed you to eat whatever it feeds you.
To be honest, the GB is your God, not Jehovah.

If I'm inspired to, I will address your response well and elaborate on the above points - however, I'm discouraged, as you are restrained from ever grasping this. If you do publicly, your JW brothers will disfellowship you.
That's a big blow, we would have converged in truth already.

PS: Don't mind my aggressive tone and intense words when we discussed yesterday - it was needed to drive home the truth.

Goodnight Haddey.

MuttleyLaff:
... and the answer is:
C. Jesus Christ

Emusan:
Will God kingdom be on Earth?

Jws: Yes!

Will Flesh and blood be part of the Kingdom of God?

Jws: No!

Will people who are flesh and blood live forever on earth where kingdom of God will be?

Jws: Yes

Confused JWs!

Mathew6:10.
Come and set up your kingdom, so that everyone on earth will obey you, as you are obeyed in heaven.

Matthew 6:10 ,we know Jesus Christ and JWs are speaking with the Bible's wisdom.

If Mr LIENUS refuses to accept he has confused himself, then he knows more than Jesus Christ.


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achorladey:
If the Jesus could say "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so that anyone exercising faith in him might be destroyed but have everlasting life" John 3:16


what you need is ANYONE in that same anyone carries ALL NONE JWS




I know you can see the little my eyes can see

Definitely there must be a way to IDENTIFY the group practicing what Jesus taught back then, no matter how Satan tries to complicate issues!


Distraction mode into what was asked



we did many things in your name" then[b] I will[/b] say to them "I never knew you, depart from me you workers of iniquity


Answer me the Max that has EYES and EARS who is the I in Matthew 7: 21-23

A. MaxInDHouse

B. Achorladey

C. Jesus Christ

D. Jehovah

I await the response

shadeyinka:
The highlight has no scriptural bases nor justification. Experience they say is the best teacher. Speak for yourself: you aren't backed up with the spirit of grace to function.
Mat 10:7-14:
"And as you go, proclaim, saying, The kingdom of Heaven is at hand. Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. You have received freely, freely give. Do not provide gold nor silver, nor copper in your purses, nor a bag for [the] journey, nor two coats, nor sandals, nor staves. For the workman is worthy of his food. And into whatever city or village you enter, inquire who within it is worthy. And there abide until you go away from there. And when you come into a house, greet it. And if the house is worthy, let your peace come on it. But if it is not worthy, let your peace return to you. And whoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when you depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet."


Secondly, some kind of sicknesses are demonic in origin.
Luk 13:12,15-16:
"And when Jesus saw her, He called and said to her, Woman, you are delivered from your infirmity. … And the Lord answered him and said, Hypocrite! Does not each one of you on the sabbath loosen his ox or ass from the stall and lead [it] away, to give [it] drink? And ought not this [woman], being a daughter of Abraham whom Satan has bound, lo these eighteen years, be loosened from this bond on the Sabbath day?"

Luk 13:11:
"And behold, there was a woman who had a spirit of infirmity eighteen years, and she was bowed together and was not able to be completely erect."

So, this kind of woman will be healed when they listen to your preachings?

1 Corinthians 12:29
Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles?

1 Corinthians 12:30
Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret?

Not all Jehovah's Servants had such miraculous gifts among early Christians, those who had it are long gone ,& it ceased.
An adult doesn't need feeding bottles,IYKYK..
1 Corinthians 13:8-13.

Matthew 7:21-23, Jesus says he would disappoint professional miracle workers when the time comes.
(All of them forbid alcohol but now them & their Pastorpreneurs they carry am for pocket like kilode.
Who is fooling who? ).
Matthew 24:14 . 1 Timothy 4:16 is a
scriptural measurement for true Servants of Jehovah God

Dramatization of theatrics on TV will not save it's practitioners.
Matthew 7:21-23 Jesus has spoken.

Emusan:
Jesus has always existed in God's nature

It's this very nature that you people still confused about.

Your tactics to dodge this question won't work, I know your style!

so when will this happened before they died or when they resurrected?

You see the reason I said you lost your senses since.

By the way, who will BORN THE FLESH THAT WILL LIVE FOREVER ON EARTH?

You already agreed that it's God who BORN THOSE WHO ARE SPIRIT.

ADD:

Scriptural truth is that ALL believers are BORN BY GOD

[color=blue]John 1:12 "NLT: But to ALL WHO BELIEVED him and accepted him, he gave the right to become children of God.

CJB: But to AS MANY AS DID RECEIVE HIM, to those who put their trust in his person and power, he gave the right to become children of God,

In fact, this particular one finally put your lying mouth in a kin.

[b]Everyone who believes that Jesus is THE CHRIST is BORN OF GOD, and everyone who loves the father loves his child as well. 1 John 5:1[/color[/b]]

Bros why do you quote 1 John 5:1?
According to Emusan the son Jesus is the Father ,God.

Matthew 5:3,5 "the meek shall inherit the earth" (according to Jesus Christ) = 2 Peter3:13.
The Bros get SENSE pass Jesus Christ, for him mind

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Blabbermouth:
Correct.

Blabbermouth:
Shush! Did he become a man or did he not?
By the way, I was 100% clear on my use of word "angel" - you see me always use the phrase "angelic creature just like Gabriel".
Hahahahahahaha, you want to run.

Like I said - I was very clear with my use of the word "angel".

You are an angel yourself. You have an assignment to take the good news to unbelievers and preach the Gospel.

However, that's not what we are on about. For the last time ,I was clear about my use of the word " angels ".

shadeyinka:
In other words every spirit must have a spirit body just like every human must have a human body. Is this okay?

Blabbermouth:
Emí ìka, hahahahahahaha. In your mind you thought you've finally got a breathing space and a cave where you can hide - in fact, you are exactly where I want you to be.

Now you said, the summary I gave you was not your belief, that the only thing you stated was that the heavenly ressurected are like angels, you never called them angelic creatures like Gabriel.
On the other hand, your brother max didn't see this bobby trap he fell for it and he is going about saying the heavenly ressurected will become angelic creatures just like Gabriel Any difference? Yes, Max said the only difference is their position is higher.
Smiles, I thought you said all of you believe the same thing.

Well Haddey, you can't go forward anymore (to call them angelic creatures just like Gabriel) and you can't go back (well, provided you still prefer falsehood to truth)

Now declare if you have wisdom, since these beings are just like angels and not angelic creatures, what are they?
Tell me, what kind of being are the heavenly ressurected? Yes, they are like Gabriel in some aspect but have higher position, what exactly are they?

You can't run, it's the truth chasing you, you can't just escape.


You've stopped shadowboxing (since it's sinking) and jumped to cherrypicking and false eisegesis, anywhere you go, I will whip you silly.

Hebrews 2
5. For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak
6. But one in a certain place testified saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man that thou visitest him.
7. Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and first set him over the works of thy hands
8. Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him

The one who was made a little lower than the angels was also the same man that GOD subjected everything to, gave honor and set him over the works of his hands -
Who was that?
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Man! Christ Jesus! The son of man!
I don't care what he was before he came to earth, when he was glorified, he was glorified as a son of man not an angel!
Except you will argue that the Son of man is not a man but an angel - that is to say, Christ Jesus never came to earth as a man but an angel.
Go on, take shelter there, hahahahahahaha
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Bartimus!
Luke 22:69
Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God
This was post ressurection! What kind of being was sitting at the right hand of the power of God? A Man!

Perhaps, you can say Jesus was joking or he drank too much wine when he made that statement, here is Stephen confirming that it was son of man that was sitting at the right hand of God
Acts 7:56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the son of man standing on the right hand of God.

When was that? After ressurection or during his time on earth?

Let me open your eyes again, even at his second coming, he is coming back as a man, not an angel!
Matthew 24:30
"And then shall appear the sign of the son of man in heaven: and then shall all tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory

I don't care if he was angel Michael before his time on earth, but after ressurection, the being he became cannot be an angel!
Go ahead, tell me Jesus never became man.
Go ahead, declare if you have wisdom in you.
Like I said, in this quest for truth, you are going to be needing a lot of wisdom.

Christ Jesus never functioned as high priest until the new covenant was made (after he died and ressurected), he is not to perform his high priest duty as an angel!

1 Tim 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus
Go ahead, tell me if our mediator and high priest is an angel.

Let me see how much wisdom you've got and the source it came from.
Let me see if you will prefer to write a new bible than accept the truth.

By the way, kiss this again!
Therefore, being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne

Who is your God? The GB or Jehovah?
Go ahead and test your wisdom against Jehovah's.
Go ahead and say He never swore the oath.


Is this your last resort?
Hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha, be humbled by the above first, you will hold the truth soon.

Clown.

The spirit of wisdom has enlightened you - He is a new man, the King to sit on the throne of Israel forever.

PS: The heavenly ressurected will also be a new creation, a new man, with higher glory and honor than any Angel - that includes the archangel Michael.

The apple of God's eye in all his creations is man - that was what amused David.

Humble yourself and learn - Many angels also needed redemption! If Angelic creatures were the deal, the savior would have become an angel, if he was already one (perhaps Michael), he will remain an angel and just go on with the works of salvation.

However, it was written in the scriptures - He took not the nature of an angel but flesh-and-blood.....

shadeyinka:
The characteristics of any personality including having a Will, Emotion and Intellect.

If I get you right, are you saying that the Holy Spirit is NOT a personality?
(He doesn't have a will, nor emotion nor intellect?).

shadeyinka:
A spirit with emotion, will and intellect. A spirit that is a personality!

Chinnybaby190:
I have to create this accounts to post this.
I want to leave my husband and our child behind. I want a divorce. I'm tired of the whole thing.

When the money was there, he only told me his plan after he, his elder brothers, mother have discussd and taken decision.
After he made wrong decision, investment and lost everything, all his family members have left. Even his mother has given up on us. They see him now as my husband and my responsibility.

He took another little step and set up a betnija business which his brother was managing. Finnally, it's down.

Since his bet9ja business crumbled, he has been totally dependent on me. I basically foot everything in the house down to data and recharge card on his phone. The annoying part is that he no longer make effort to look for any job again.
This man is intelligent, hard working but just of a sudden, I don't understand what is happening to him.
His fighting spirit has died. He takes anything now. No pride, no ego.

I don't ever believe that one day my husband will be comfortably eating, watching movies and feel no shame in other people's house.

For more than 2 weeks now, we packed all our belongings to my Aunt's house because our rent expired.
We practically stays here now, the whole thing is driving me crazy. I'm managing a small job with little salary, but he has nothing to contribute and he seems not borderd.

How can we stay here, eating their food and he's not feeling remores anymore.
I've been giving him attitude since 3days now. I'm so exhausted in this marriage.

Please help. What should I do?

More experienced people in the house, please advise me as your daughter, sister, friend.


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After going through some comments here, I have a second thought. If this is really depression, I don't want to add more to him emmotionally. I will stand by him.

Please can you help him with a job if you have the power?
He can learn easily, intelligent, very detailed and hard-working.
Please can you carry him along if you can?
We are really going through so much, me in particular.

MuttleyLaff:

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Janosky you have a short memory. You have forgotten that I straighten up with the knowledge that it was a vision, havent you, lmso

DappaD:
The problem is that, they think the word ‘BODY’ applies to only human beings.
When in fact Jehovah, Jesus and the rest of the angels all have spirit BODIES. (John 4:24, 1Corinthians 15:40)

livingchrist:
why dont you do it yourself?
I repeat there is nothing like Spirit body in the bible only spiritual body.
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There are two types of bodies, one is natural while the other one is spiritual. Jesus body died a natural body but was raised in a spiritual body

2There is nothing like Spirit body, the bible never said spirits have body, so where is the formulation of Spirit body coming from.

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Jehovah witness organisation proves to be antichrist in nature because it denies Jesus is come in the flesh.

MuttleyLaff:
"¹After six days Jesus took Peter, James, and John (the brother of James) and led them up a high mountain where they could be alone.
²Jesus' appearance changed in front of them. His face became as bright as the sun and His clothes as white as light.
³Suddenly, Moses and Elijah appeared to them and were talking with Jesus.
⁴Peter said to Jesus, "Lord, it's good that we're here.
If you want, I'll put up three tents here-one for you, one for Moses, and one for Elijah."
⁵He was still speaking when a bright cloud overshadowed them. Then a voice came out of the cloud and said,
"This is my Son, whom I love and with whom I am pleased. Listen to Him!"
⁶The disciples were terrified when they heard this and fell facedown on the ground.
⁷But Jesus touched them and said, "Get up, and don't be afraid!"
⁸As they raised their heads, they saw no one but Jesus.
⁹On their way down the mountain, Jesus ordered them, "Don't tell anyone what you have seen.
Wait until the Son of Man has been brought back to life.""
- Matthew 17:1-9

shadeyinka, let's make this a little more interesting with added biblical oomph for your JW invitees and others you cc:' mentioned (i.e. cc: Maxindhouse, Janosky, AkinwaleJJ, DappaD, Ken4Christ, Emusan, KNOWMORE56, Dtruthspeaker)

How did Peter know who Moses and Elijah were, who were long ago dead and whom both he has never set eyes upon before?

shadeyinka:
Please explain what you mean as I WILL NOT debate your response

Truvel:
Ghost Children Of Fallen Angels. How?