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BodyKiss: In 2011 when Ronaldo broke record, had more goals, but without major trophy, Messi won it, then people said Messi won the Ballon d'or because of the titles and team achievement.
In 2012, Ronaldo scored less goals and won major trophy, while Messi scored more goals and won no major trophy and still win the award. Now the story is that the award is for individual achievement, not team. No matter how you look at it, this whole thing is about Messi being more likeable than Ronaldo.

Bros, forget, over 300 different people from different parts of the world, acting independently, can hardly be wrong.

vizboy: Well the fact is fifa gave it to messi but to me ronaldo is the best just my personal opinion. If fifa know these was not bais they would have put it online for all football loving fans to vote just like goal.com does rather than allowing just a few bias coach and players to vote

Even after evidence was placed in front of you, you still believe FIFA 'gave' it to Messi?

So you think 3 persons per country are not representative enough, but you want everyone to vote, with China and India's 1.2 and 1 billion population respectively enough to tilt the outcome in favour of one person, dwarfing votes from all of Africa put together? That is the transparent process abi?

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I see driving school as waste of money.

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cupid4ig: read it again messi didnt select ronaldo in his top 3 abi u no get eye ?

That is what I'm saying. Messi didn't select CR7 in his top 3, the Portugal guy too didn't select Messi in his top 3. 2 ge 4.

Italian coavh selected his boys (Pirlo and Buffon) as top 2. Spanish coach also voted his boys(Iniesta, Xavi and Cassilas),

Dee60: Keshi - Is this how you want to win AFCON? Yaya ko, Sule ni!

As for Real Madrid - A house in shambles.....they should get up quickly and manage their differences.

I tire o

So in Keshi's eyes, neither Messi nor CR7 is among top 3 players in the world? The man go vote Yaya, RVP and Drogba. Our coach must be watching koro soka, not football.

Troll: The Way This Voting Is Being Done Nowadays; An African Will Never Win The Fifa Ballon D'Or. No Matter How Spectacular He Is On The Pitch. The Europeans Will Always Vote For Their Own. The Public Should Be Given Voting Power Or Else This Is Just Plainly Sentimental Bulshit. Imagine!?

Eto'o came 3rd as recently as 2004. He was an African. Stop the racist remark. Drogba came 8th and you wont tell me he did more than the 7 guys ranked ahead of him.

la furia: @ jarus, argetina and messi didnt vote for CR7.............In summary,everybody voted for his friend......
i thought the voting was strictly between cr7 y messi y iniesta,how did the others like ramos , alonso, ibra etc get a vote,? my point is why tell us the final three wen its obvious that i can vote for chamakh as world best player.......oh i see, you vote for the final 23, is alright

well all done and dusted....... but the fifa XI

Everybody that got nomination(by coaches, captains and journalists, even if one nomination) was among the initial long list released by FIFA way back November.

And getting the first 11 is also easy. Top ranked in each position. Messi (1st), Ronaldo (2nd), and Falcao (5th) were the top ranked forwards, so will automatically mean they are the forwards for FIFA 11. Drogba came 8th, and 4th ranked forward(after the trio). Except you want a strange formation of 4 strikers, Drogba couldn't have made First 11, despite coming 8th overall. Ditto for Pirlo. Yes, he did well, but other midfielders (Iniesta, Xavi, Xabi and who's the 4th again) ranked ahead of him, not because FIFA didn't his face but because the four guys appeared more in coaches and captains' nominations than Pirlo's.

It's that simple. I have never for once believed FIFA or CAF sit down and give someone award.

Full list of voting by countries captains and coaches is avaiable in that link, last paragraph. Tried to attach it, but couldnt, too large.


I can see Yobo voted for Messi, Ronaldo and Yaya Toure in that order. Keshi also voted for Yaya, Drogba and Van Persie in that order.

afam4eva: This thing could have gone either way ooo cos it seems some people voted based on sentiments.

Yeah, there are sentiments. For example, I see Algerian captain voting for Karim Benzema as no 1. That's clearly sentiment-driven. No sane football watcher would say Benzema was best player in the world in 2012. Messi, Ronaldo, Falcao, Iniesta, Xavi, all debatable, but Benzema, clearly nah. But I can see teh connection - Benzema has Algerian origin like the voter.

Also, I think contrary to his vote, Messi himself believes Ronaldo is one of the top 3 players in the world. Same for the guy that voted for Portugal. He can't tell me he sincerely believed Messi wasnt among top 3 players in the world, but he left him out to reduce his chance.

But overall, I think the voting is diverse enough to reflect true best player. The few sentiments-driven couldn't have made much difference, especially since teh difference between winner and 1st runner up is so wide.

For those who say FIFA just sit down somewhere and 'give' someone, maybe the people that voted from diverse parts of the world were goaded by FIFA to give one player.

[b]ANALYSIS
By Chris Myson

Lionel Messi has won his fourth Ballon d’Or title, scooping the prestigious individual award over runner-up Cristiano Ronaldo and third-place team-mate Andres Iniesta.

Radamel Falcao finished up in fifth, behind another Barcelona stalwart, Xavi, while Iker Casillas came in at sixth.

Andrea Pirlo, Didier Drogba, Robin van Persie and Zlatan Ibrahimovic made up a star-studded final top 10 for the calendar year of 2012.

After the awards ceremony, Fifa has released an intriguing list of the full votes for the award, which is decided based on decisions made by international coaches, captains and a selection of media representatives from each member nation.

The voting list reveals some decisions that would raise few eyebrows, but other ones that can be considered as particularly surprising.

In England’s votes, both manager Roy Hodgson and captain Steven Gerrard voted for the brilliant Messi as their winner, with Ronaldo in second.

They differed with their decisions for third-place, though, as the Three Lions boss went for Falcao, while the Liverpool captain opted for former team-mate Xabi Alonso.

For Spain, boss Vicente Del Bosque, who himself was recognised on the night with the Coach of the Year award, went for three of his own players; Casillas, Xavi and Iniesta in the top three positions.

Casillas himself had a vote and very surprisingly opted for club and international team-mate Sergio Ramos as his No.1 pick, with Ronaldo only second ahead of Iniesta, perhaps hinting at why the Portuguese ace felt his club were not fully supportive of his Ballon d’Or bid.

Messi had a vote as captain for Argentina and did not select Ronaldo in his top three at all, opting for Iniesta, Xavi and Sergio Aguero. Alejandro Sabella voted for Messi, with Ronaldo also absent from his selections.

Portugal matched that tactic, as Bruno Alves, who was voting in place of Ronaldo, went for his team-mate as top pick with Messi not in the top three, although Paulo Bento did name the Argentine in third.

Italy boss Cesare Prandelli voted for his star player Pirlo over Gianluigi Buffon and then Messi, while Buffon himself also went for the Juventus midfielder as his top choice.

Philipp Lahm backed Iniesta over Messi and Ronaldo, while Germany coach Joachim Low voted Mesut Ozil, Manuel Neuer and Xavi as his top three.

France coach Didier Deschamps backed Messi over Ronaldo and Xavi, while Hugo Lloris stayed loyal to the goalkeepers’ union by voting Casillas as No.1 over Falcao and Drogba.

Brazil skipper Thiago Silva’s votes were unremarkable, with Messi beating Ronaldo to top spot and his PSG team-mate Ibrahimovic in third.

Louis van Gaal voted for Messi over Ronaldo and Falcao, while Netherlands captain Wesley Sneijder voted Van Persie over Messi (second) and Ronaldo (third).

Darren Fletcher, who was casting votes as Scotland captain, backed former team-mate Ronaldo at No.1, with Messi and club team-mate Robin van Persie as his other selections.

For a full breakdown of the Ballon d'Or votes, click here to see Fifa's full list from national captains, coaches and media representatives. [/b]

http://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/4055/main/2013/01/07/3656105/casillas-picks-ramos-over-ronaldo-gerrard-backs-messi-who

I knew one of Emenike and Ideye would be dropped and all indicators had been pointing to Ideye.

Well, I think he should have taken both of them. They are the only two 9 in the initial list. Now we have just one conventional striker.

Also, I'm surprised Catalunya goal scorer, Dike, didnt make the final cut.

I have never. My car radio is permanently tuned to Brila FM.

Seun is actually my very good friend. He is a great guy, honestly. Even off-Nairaland, we maintain cordial relationship. Just yesterday, he offered me type C Nairaland advert for free, for a private project I needed to advertise. That is Seun for you.

Seun: Yes, your activities definitely contributed a lot to the forum. I really appreciate everything you've done for Nairaland.

Seun, your speaking from both sides of your mouth in this thread is embarrassing me too. In one breathe you will accuse me of abdicating my duty (not moderating, only doing awards, giving silly excuse etc), in another breathe you will acknowledge my efforts as positive. Same thread. And this is affecting my mood swing too.

But knowing you, I feel for you. I know you are one gentleman that only needs to be a little more decisive rather than juggling many objectives together, trying to pease everyone. With your level of attainment, candidly, I think you should have gone beyond this. Know it or not, you are no longer an average Joe in Nigeria. You are an icon, as owner of Nairaland.

Seun: It's true. Even OAM4J can confirm that before the end of year contests, Jarus hardly moderated. He only moderated when he was organizing awards and debates. So after the awards, he was looking for any excuse to resign. When I urged him to remove Chinua Achebe from the hall of shame, he thought he had found his opportunity, so he resigned. But then people started begging him to reconsider, and he didn't want it to seem as if he was being stubborn, so he demanded an apology from me thinking I would not apologize. When I apologized, he was shocked, but he came back reluctantly in order to please the people who begged him to come back. But he still wanted to resign because he really doesn't have any time to moderate. So when I appointed Afam as a moderator, he resigned again, using the ridiculous excuse that he "can't work under a quota system". It's a very strange excuse, if you think about it. Why should the appointment of a moderator to help the fight against tribalists and eliminate the complaints of marginalization by Igbos be a problem for Jarus as a moderator?

Just reading this in full. If I should reply, this place will be turned into something which I won't like it to turn into. I just want to avoid fighting you in public, Seun. But you are pushing me. Seriously. Pls, Seun, I know you what you can handle and what you cannot. Pls, don't let me start with you. Pls

Seun: Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing Jarus at all. He's a great guy. I'm just saying that he is a very busy man, and that's why he had to resign.

My friend, I no understand you again o

After typing and losing (thanks to my phone) a missile of a comment, seeing this, no need for re-type again.

But last time I checked, 'he doesn't moderate(do his job)' and 'use Seun as a scapegoat' are not complimentary comments o.

And I'm sure you also know that what you said as my principal activities(awards, debates, halls, etc) which you discounted for locking and moving threads(which you restricted definition of moderating to and not being creative as I did) added glamour and maturity to this section, for the good of your forum in the final analysis. And even that moving and locking threads you attached the most value to (rightly) I did that well, even if on lower scale than my partners). In any case, you may want to check the first page of politics section today and check how many topics ought to have been moved to right sections(and this is the honeymoon week of your new Mod o, with full energy)

Anyway, let's let it go. Let's all move on. There is just a time to move on.

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free2ryhme: this is what you get went u waste you usefulness on someone else sweat and effort.. you dont ever get get appreciated... Now see what you've caused for yourself humiliated after wasting 1/3 of your life trying to be give ya sef to a faceless boss in a faceless forum.


Seun barks Mods shiver .. is he paying sef///mstchew!!!!

I wasn't and can't be humiliated, dude. Stop taking it seriously. Moderating is no big deal to me. I voluntarily offered to do the job and voluntarily quit.

fkaz: As an HR If president jonathan present his qualification and grade to you.
Won't you say the president is a smart guy?

But you can refuse to confirm him after six months or sack him earlier, if he doesn't live to expectation.

There is just no way you can tell me you are better than him.

omanzo02: In Nigeria's HR circle it's certificate that matter, in developed world your skill is what really matter, not certificate but my experience/skill I acquired in Nigeria landed me my job that was also contested by candidates with higher certificate than me and all were European , that is the irony of life. The day we begin to take value in talent and capabilities, that will be the beginning of Change in Nigeria.

Spare us this. What you call certificate is not just paper, it is the summary of your accumulated performance over a number of years. If someone did better than you in those years(evidenced by certificate) there is no way you can prove to me that you are better than him, since he bested you in those years represented by that paper. After all, I don't know any of you before and I can only judge by your past, represented by those certificates.

With these HR 'personals' and 'pessonel' I'm seeing here, I'm seriously afraid no employer would want to employ someone who won't be able to write simple emails to clients/customers and other external parties, doing damage to the company's image.

Stop comparing unverifiable wealth to verifiable one.

Just average in this pictures. But the Tiwa Savage I saw live couple of weeks ago in the end of year party of one of the oil companies in Lagos is far more beautiful than this. She is actually more beautiful than this pics portray.

I agree with No 1-4.

I'm not a big fan of Mikel and I believe he is overrated but I won't put him in no 46. Worst, he should be in 20-25.

Taiye Taiwo's rank is clearly bad judgment. He should be in 30's to 40's.

That's the truth. What he couldn't even do as president.

smallmoney: I would have suggested a more realistic list and not cars that would only be on peoples wishlist
here is mine based on the Nigerian Market

1. 2012 Mercedes C250(the c-class hasn't had an I4 since 2005)
2. 2013 Honda Accord (beautiful design)
3. 2012 Toyota Camry (nigerians favourite)
4. 2010 Mercedes E350 (very classy)
5. 2012 Mercedes CLS550

That 2012 Camry no be it jare. Looks like Toyota Corolla 2008. Camry 2007-2011 still finer IMO

Someone directed me to this thread.

https://www.nairaland.com/1151301/experienced-mathematics-teachers-good-command

Of course, it's not for teh big boys, as I'm seeing my O&G bigs boys in this thread already.

But hey, somebody else in need may be reading.

Our team is a group of young Nigerians, under the platform Afropreneur Edutech Limited, working on an educational project.

We need 3 very good Mathematics teachers for temporary engagement in our project

The ideal candidates must:

1, Have at least five years experience teaching mathematics in a secondary school and/or private coaching classes
2, Have a very good command of English Language with good intonation

The project is part-time, so it doesn't stop the candidates from pursuing their other interests or jobs.

If you are interested, please send an email to: jarusnairaland@yahoo.com with your CV and a one-page statement on your teaching experience and ability

YuzedoII: All....
Is.....
VANITY......

Warren Buffet can fit Mike Adenuga's money in his wallet, yet has lived in a simple-as-f(u)ck house for most of his life. And he was the richest man in the world and still in top 10.

3rd world mentality. No hating, maybe i'd do the same thing if I was this paid!

I don't see any thing wrong in doing a magnificent edifice of a house. It is Warren's choice, Mike also has his choice.

SlyIg: So how has your correction affected our discussion so far!

? not !

_{just pulling legs}

Old-fashioned. Long phased out in my Ife.