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Phones › Re: Help Me Make A Choice Of Phone: by jedisco(m): 4:19am On Aug 30, 2012

geniusbami: I'm in the same dilema, I'm currently using Samsung Galaxy Young S6102, which is quite good with all my necessary applications, but it has the following grave limitations, which has necessitated the urgent need for another one to make up for the shortcomings:

1) Data consumption extremely HIGH; 15MB lasts 24hrs max.
2) Fully charged battery doesn't last beyond 18hrs, which I suppose is due to data consumption.
3) Closely related to that, up to 12 apps run in the background; WhatsApp I understand but the rest are absolutely out of my control amd it's turning me nuts.
4) Totally disappointing Task Manager. Every time I try to return to whichever browser it will reload all the pages I was on, and if I minimise the browser long enough, say 20mins, God help me.
5) Internal memory is another BIG disappointment, it's simply impossible to install a few additional apps to those shipped with the phone.
6) Talking of disappointments, the camera is the train.

My greatest catch in the replacement will be
Efficient data consumption,
Support WhatsApp,
Efficient Task Manager and
5MP Camera or more, in that order.

I honestly don't mind a Nokia.
Any suggestions based on experience pls?

check my previous post. Your expectations are much easier to offset.

Phones › Re: Help Me Make A Choice Of Phone: by jedisco(m): 3:59am On Aug 30, 2012

Digriz: 40k

Although you didn't specify the OS you want to use, I think the best phone you can get for that price range is Nokia 701. It gives you a very good all round experience.

From your needs, it easily caters for all of them except that although its got a nice screen, its just 3.5". Its still larger than the N95 by about an inch but still less than some others (but also remember portability when looking for larger screens).
Also, it doesn't have some of the recent HD games like asphalt 7, fifa 2012 e.t.c but it still has a decent HD game collection which is well over 50. The fact is that if you're looking for recent HD games, I doubt you would get them on any OS at that price range.

So apart from these two above, I think it covers well for everything you mentioned and a whole lot more

Phones › Re: Samsung To Pay Apple $1.05B for Patent-Infringement by jedisco(m): 11:04am On Aug 25, 2012

Shaw007: God bless you. . .this is one thing mOst ppl dOnt KnoW. . .THANKS!!
Its as if samsung thought they were actually gon get away with this knowing fully well they were violating

It was evident Samsung already lost this case from the onset especially with the kind evidence apple put forward. It was just a case of how much in damages

It was also funny that instead of proving they didn't copy Apple, their main argument was that apple also copied others which the jury didn't accept.

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Phones › Re: Samsung To Pay Apple $1.05B for Patent-Infringement by jedisco(m): 10:49am On Aug 25, 2012

Although I think Apple is taking this patent war to far, but you won't blame them for trying to protect their innovation.
There are a host of other ways to make good devices without it being an iphone look-alike especially since its known apple behaves this way with their patents

For those expecting massive profit after this from Samsung, its just being delusional. Their sales 'might' increase because of this but not profit.
Samsungs market strategy is based on volume with a little profit margin this is in contrast to Apple which makes alot of profit on each device.

So yes, Samsung have long overtaken Apple in smartphone numbers but are still a long way to go in profit margin with Apple taking about 75% of phone and tablet profit single-handedly.

Also Samsung has to pay Microsoft, Nokia, Apple, Google, Motorolla and a host of others large chunks on each android device made making their little profit even more meagre.

Lastly, any boom from any new or rejuvenated OS wil more likely eat into androids market share. than Apple

The problem for Samsung now is preventing others from following suit in other courts around Europe.

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Phones › Re: Samsung GS3 Vs Nokia Lumia900 by jedisco(m): 6:38pm On Aug 19, 2012

bigbrovar: I think this post is flawed as it is really unfair to compare the L900 to the Sgs3. Yes both devices are good in their own way but are in completely different leagues. From hardware to software and even price point. The sgs3 and L900 are not in the same class. One (the L900) is more or less meant to be a stop gap hardware running a stop gap OS both of which (hardware and software) are coming from technological Goliath who are on the path towards getting back their mojo but who are not quite there yet. On a software stand point the L900 ships with an immature OS which still has a lot of limitations in terms of missing features and capabilities (lack of support for native 3rd party apps, or true multitasking, who highres display, or a dual core processor etc) many of the software limitations of the lumia is reflected in the hardware it ships with. This is not meant to be an indictment of the lumia rather it is the reality of the device. And why it should not be compared to the sgs3 a device from a very confidence company which has thrown in its very best and which runs a very powerful and matured OS at the pick of it's revolution. The lumia is not a bad device for what it was meant to be.But it is not (and was never meant to be) in the same class of the sgs3 its like boxing comparing two very good boxers in different weight division. The heavyweight would win any bout with a feather weight boxer almost by default and that is the best analogy I can use.

I am looking forward to what Nokia has to offer at Nokia world next month where they are expected to unveil the new windows phone 8 device. Yes That is one device which can fairly be compared to the sgs3. At least on paper the wp8 appears to have fixed most of the flaws of its predecessor shipping with a software capable of taking advantage of powerful hardware and which comes with tools that will allow the developer build (native) powerful apps (sharing the same code base with windows . Come September one can see sgs3 take up someone his own size. So I guess we can call this one to be continued. Just IMHO.

I don't want to come back to this thread but I couldn't just resist replying you.

From the long essay you wrote, I wasn't able to pick out anything useful especially as regards the topic.
What you did was simply giving us a history of Nokia and lumia which we already know and is irrelevant to this topic.
From your post it seems as though you believe that s3 is much more better than lumia in every aspect that a comparison is unnecessary.
Maybe you should go back to some previous pages and see how this issue was settled.

If you believe any is better for you, then your reply should be: I think ___ is better because 1. 2. 3. and so on and not just giving us history.

Phones › Re: What's All The Noise About Nokia No Longer In Vogue? by jedisco(m): 5:43am On Aug 16, 2012

texazzpete: Pray tell me, apart from the Pureview camera, what other features?

You mean features like the low res 640 * 360 screen with a meager 184 dpi pixel density? Or the relatively puny 1.3 Ghz CPU and inferior GPU? is it in the apps selection where Symbian is woefully lacking?

Abeg tell me the wondrous 'features' o!

Remember you were the one who called it a low-end smartphone. So its up to you to state why its a low-end smartphone.

Now to the things you listed:

Screen- when taking it together with the competition. On iphone, you have a screen with a high resolution, very high pixel density, but its TFT and with poor outdoor viewing.
On GS III you have an AMOLED screen with a high resolution and good pixel density, but it has a pentile layout and the outdoor visibility is at most average.
On 808 pureview, you have the best outdoor visibility on a phone ( * link removed* ), AMOLED screen with RGB layout, but with a low resolution and pixel density

You can see that none of them has it all and they all have at least 2 important cons (I've left out screen size as its user dependent although I consider 3.5" a tad small). So 808 may not be the best in some screen parameters but its certainly the best in some others.

Also take a look at this video from phonearena comparing the two 808 and GS III and surprisingly the 808 looks much better that the GS. Thats because the lighting was good and Nokia CBD comes into play. ( * link removed* )

APPS- This is another area where I find it hard to understand you guys. Out of curiosity, I've gone through all the favourite apps thread for different platforms on this site and I'm yet to see any useful app not present on symbian. On the other hand, I've seen android users come to the symbian app thread ( * link removed * ), get awed and go back to look for like apps on their platform.
Just to satisfy my curiosity, I got into a argument on symbian vs android and after 7 pages, they could give me nothing.

So my conclusion is that apart from some recent HD games, all useful apps on any other platform are also present on symbian (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). And its not like symbian lacks HD games (I've got over 50 installed) but some recent ones are missing.

Phones › Re: What's All The Noise About Nokia No Longer In Vogue? by jedisco(m): 4:25am On Aug 16, 2012

aze: Because they glorify mediocrity over excellence; you spoke for the adoption of Acient and primitive tech instead of modern and sophisticated technologies. Apologise now to all NairaLanders

It looks as if you've been trying to get my attention. Well let me give it to you.

Tell me just 2 absolutely innovative techs that have been introduced into the smartphone world this year. Lets see how you define your own mediocrity.

Phones › Re: What's All The Noise About Nokia No Longer In Vogue? by jedisco(m): 4:22am On Aug 16, 2012

walcolm: @texaspete and 4llerbuntu,

you guys will be wasting your time trying to have a discussion with this jedisco guy. he doesnt use most of the phones he claims he's an expert on.

I'm still looking for where I claimed to be an expert on many phones. All I can remember saying is that I've used apple and symbian devices.
The thing is that I have a free mind toward any device out there no matter which OS its on.

Phones › Re: What's All The Noise About Nokia No Longer In Vogue? by jedisco(m): 4:03am On Aug 16, 2012*

texazzpete: @jedisco The Olympus E-PL2 is not a DSLR...

to take nothing away from your post, the Olympus is an excellent camera and for the Pureview to surpass it is a wonderful achievement. It's just a shame that such great photo detail can never be appreciated on the low res phone screen.

Camera quality is not enough. the OS has to be top notch too. And that's where the 808 falls down dead.

Just wait for a Windows Phone 8 pureview phone. Nokia and Microsoft will probably announce one September 5th.

That I know. Moreover I didn't say its a DSLR. Its a micro four- thirds and there is a review bringing all three together.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/nokia-808-pureview-vs-olympus-e-pl2-vs-canon-5d-mark-iii-vs-apple-iphone-4s-38mp-shootout/

I talked on the issue of the screen and the OS in my hidden posts. Maybe I would remove some links and repost it.

Its very very unlikely to see a lumia pureview this year. It took Nokia 5 years to put this on a very familiar OS. It should take atleast a year to move this to WP. But anything can still happen
I think Nokia may just announce WP8 phones this year (which is very important now). Pureview may come at the MWC 2013. And I don't think that would still match the 808. It may be about 20MP which might not bring out the beauty of pureview.
Also because of the phone size I don't think it would be a WP 8 flagship for Nokia especially now it seems as if Nokia wants to start releasing phones the iphone way.

Phones › Re: What's All The Noise About Nokia No Longer In Vogue? by jedisco(m): 9:00pm On Aug 15, 2012

4llerbuntu: LIES, LIES & DAMNED LIES.

and all liars will go to the nearest house of assembly

point us to a thread or link where i made such assertion. like i said, you are fairly new around these parts, hence you really know nada abt me, except the few posts you read in the last 2 months. and FYI android is not even my dream/ideal mobile phone OS, nor is it the only one i use, even right now!!!

seems i have a new foe on NL, don't let bad belle kill you. I dunno what you aim to achieve by this unwarranted attack, and what exactly do you intend to achieve anyway?

I do not recall insulting the camera, or stating that the camera or whatsoever all those other things you listed are sub par or poorer than in any other phone. Neither did i mention it having a competitor!

Just because your bad belle is beginning to cloud you vision, i did say "That phone has nothing else going for it except the camera,"

what does that mean in straight English?

seeing that other people share that view, i just wonder why it is so itchy to you!

What is all this balderdash?

who follow you argue about picture quality size etc? i said if its the 41 MP marketing thats chopping pple, the picture size makes it impracticable for the [size=14pt]AVERAGE JOE[/size] . i may be wrong but to the best of my knowledge, the average person mostly uses mobile phone pictures for facebook, instagram, blogging etc.

does facebook or instagram allow you upload 10 MP pictures AT FULL RES IN THAT SIZE? maybe im not current, but i coulda sworn my 5 MP pics always lost quality when they get on facebook

how many 10 MP pictures will fit in a 8gb memory card(most common size) that will undoubtedly contain other things apart from pictures?

therefore as a heavy user interested in flexing you 41 MP swagger, you would have to purchase the max 32GB memory card to add to the shared 16GB on the phone to store more of your pics and stuff at a hefty sum, abi 32GB cards are cheap in your shop? N100k plus N

Of which since you can always reduce the picture quality on the phone to get sizes like 3MP, does it make economic sense to you to buy a 100k fone just to get 3 MP pictures? ironically sef, the phone screen itself is too poor to even give you the pictures in their full glory (retina? AMEN SOMEBODY)

i may not be the average joe but last time i checked i had close to 2k pictures on my 8GB memory card, taken by a 8MP camera. e no pass 1.5Gb all those pictures gaan

@ the bolded, CLEARLY YOU HAVE SOME SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH EYESIGHT, COMPREHENSION, AND COMMONSENSE. if thats the conclusion you arrived at after reading my post.

i repeat again, WHO DEBATED ALL THIS RUBBISH WITH YOU SEF? DID I MENTION VIDEO? DID I CASTIGATE THE CAMERA?

And then again, does this mean it is better than a midrange DSLR? have you ever seen a DSLR before? or as usual you just know?

Guy french the nearest transformer o, e no concern me

1. You stated it clearly on the lumia thread that you can never use a lumia phone. I don't think you would be any kinder to symbian. Also from texs reply to you on that thread its clear you don't consider ios as being worth it. You may not have said it explicitly but your hate for anything non-android easily shows itself.
What would you have said of this device if Nokia adopted android and made this their debut device.

This phone has alot to offer apart from the cam. (Check my reply to tex for clarification).
People who agree with you are either fanboys or not well informed.

2.I really think I need to explain some stuff to you.
The idea of 808 pureview is not to take 38MP pics. As pureview only comes into play when the resolution is reduce. If you choose to do that, its up to you
The picture size produced by this phone are not impracticable and are of like sizes to other phones. Its the quality that differs.
Why do you think that most top DSLRs worth over $5,000 usually hover between 12 - 14MP.

The relationship between MP and image quality is only true for low quality digital cams.
You need to understand the issue of quantity(size) and quality as regards cams.

The 808 does not produce great pics because it has a 41MP cam (you can get 12MP cams that produce better pics). It only has a high MP because it needs that to combine the pixels and produce super pixels in absolutely stunning lower resolution images. Thats what pureview is all about.

Have you ever asked yourself why most of the absolutely stunning pics you see online are usually sized in kb? Can you compare them to the large MB pics produced by your phone?

Like I said before, the 3MP pics are much better than the 38MP pics.

So in summary whether you're looking for small sized pics for socials or large sized ones for keeps, the 808 pureview gives you better pics than any other phone.
If you want to get deceived by the 38MP (like most people out there) then its up to you. But the important thing is that you understand the strength of the camera.

3. As regards the screen and its use as a smartphone, check my reply to tex

4. As regards your comparison with a DSLR you should stick to stuff you're good at. From your reply its clear you know very very little about everyday photography talkless of a DSLR.
The 808 can hold its own against entry level DSLRs (which is amazingly stunning) but not against the mid-range or high-end ones. Again this does not warrant a comparison but praise as this is a smartphone and they are dedicated cameras.
Check this link and get stunned: http://www.gsmarena.com/pureview_blind_test-review-773p3.php

Phones › Re: What's All The Noise About Nokia No Longer In Vogue? by jedisco(m): 6:17pm On Aug 15, 2012

I wonder why my posts are being hidden

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I know exactly where you can get it. Which phone are you using?

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Phones › Re: What's All The Noise About Nokia No Longer In Vogue? by jedisco(m): 8:00pm On Aug 13, 2012

4llerbuntu: Wicked man, see as you just downsize their swagger, nokia go sue u o, or bribe you with one and you immediately turn into their evangelist (Naija Style)

Honestly, i doubt if half the people buying that thing even understand what its about anyway.
id understand if a journalist plumped for it, but the average joe?

That phone has nothing else going for it except the camera, and that camera is not exactly practicable for a regular user. pictures at the full resolution will be large, quite large. Funny tho is that phone has 16 Gb internal and can only support microSD up to 32 Gb.

worse is facebook, instagram etc no go allow you post pictures of that size na. so if its just to have such res pics on your phone, for that price id pass.

You can get a good DSLR for that price na

The thing with you is that though you have sworn never to touch other OSes apart from your super android, you always want to make comments about them just to look like a guru.

Well your post above is the most not-so-well informed statement I've heard as far as the 808 pureview is concerned.

It amazes me that you still think that the quality of a camera depends just on its MP rating.
There are a host of other things involved like the sensor size, the flash, the lens, the software behind the camera, quality of recorded sound, how it zooms e.t.c.
The 808 pureview doesn't have a competitor as far as smarts are concerned in almost all the above.

I can give you countless examples of lower MP rated cameras (N97 with 5MP) that produces better images than higher rated ones (N86 with 8MP).

Coming to the issue of size, at full 38MP resolution, the pics come out at about 10MB which is not too much for its quality.

Now to what really annoyed me. It can also take pics at 3, 5 and 8MP resolution with that of 3MP being the best in quality because of the way pureview works (sorry to burst your bubble).

So in summary, the 808 pureview will give you a small sized image at 3MP whose quality cannot be compared to that of any phone ever made (no matter the resolution or size)

Coming to video recording, again it has no competitor. With dual recording microphones for stereo recording, full HD recording, rich recording that gives CD-like quality and looseless zoom its just too good to be compared to anyother.

Its amazing that out of every other thing to attack the 808 pureview on, its its camera you've chosen.
Well FYI, it has no competitor in that area. That is something that took Nokia 5 solid years to put into a phone.

You may check up this link and a host of others to clear your doubts: http://www.cameradebate.com/2012/nokia-808-pureview-camera-review/

Your comparison with a DLSR is not worth a reply

Phones › Re: What's All The Noise About Nokia No Longer In Vogue? by jedisco(m): 7:58pm On Aug 13, 2012

texazzpete: You saw several hundred people (out of a HUGE population) and it's 'everybody' abi?

I find it puzzling that Nokia is selling this low end phone for 100 - 95k...and that normal people are buying at that price.

If i was in Lagos and i was too broke to buy a decent smartphone, i'd have queued for that phone at N41k, sold it to a mugu like yourself for 85k (discount ) and then added 10k to the money and picked up a Galaxy S III. That's #Winning.

Not even a 41MP camera would make me use that phone.

I still searching for what exactly makes it a low-end phone cos I see alot of features on the phone that no other phone has or can dream of having in the near future.

Phones › Re: Nokia C7, E7 And N7 Which One Is The Best. by jedisco(m): 11:34am On Aug 13, 2012

sniperwolf: I really hate this argument between N8 and 701. The poster did not mention either of the phones. I own N8 and my cousin owns 701. I can tell that the only advantage (for an ordinary man) the 701 has over the N8 is the price.
Just like no 2 clock can have the same time, it may be applicable to colours.
The N8 runs smoothly, the N8 can run the same number of applications the 701 can run the same time. Maybe you should ask yourself how many applications do I need at the same time? At most 5.
N8 enjoys a powerful 12 MP and bigger memory.
How many smart device supports NFC? Not so many, so it's too early to be important

Man open your eyes to the beautiful horizon out there.
Go back and read my reply to temmy and see the things I listed.

I used to think 7010 was fast enough until it got the fp1 update which increased the processor speed from 1 to 1.3GHz. The first and most important feature I noticed was that it was so much smoother and faster. It got me asking myself so this is what just 300MHz can do.

And please never mention it anywhere again that a 256mb ram and 687MHz symbian device runs smoothly. Even out of the box, it can't be described as smooth.

The best independent review you can get on symbian fp1 on 808 is that its UI can compete with other current OSes although it still has some glitches in performance here and there.

Phones › Re: Nokia C7, E7 And N7 Which One Is The Best. by jedisco(m): 11:33am On Aug 13, 2012

sniperwolf: I really hate this argument between N8 and 701. The poster did not mention either of the phones. I own N8 and my cousin owns 701. I can tell that the only advantage (for an ordinary man) the 701 has over the N8 is the price.
Just like no 2 clock can have the same time, it may be applicable to colours.
The N8 runs smoothly, the N8 can run the same number of applications the 701 can run the same time. Maybe you should ask yourself how many applications do I need at the same time? At most 5.
N8 enjoys a powerful 12 MP and bigger memory.
How many smart device supports NFC? Not so many, so it's too early to be important

Man open your eyes to the beautiful horizon out there.
Go back and read my reply to temmy and see the things I listed.

I used to think 7010 was fast enough until it got the fp1 update which increased the processor speed from 1 to 1.3GHz. The first and most important feature I noticed was that it was so much smoother and faster. It got me asking myself so this is what just 300MHz can do.

And please never mention it anywhere again that a 256mb ram and 687MHz symbian device runs smoothly. Even out of the box, its laggy.

The best independent review you can get on symbian fp1 on 808 is that its UI can compete with other current OSes although it still has some glitches in performance here and there.

Phones › Re: Nokia C7, E7 And N7 Which One Is The Best. by jedisco(m): 11:23am On Aug 13, 2012

4peace: i pray to God this morning for you guys temmy & jedisco to get awof money and move on to another platform OS

Make una leave us nokia user alone we are tired of augument everytime symbian is mention on this forum.

Phones › Re: Nokia C7, E7 And N7 Which One Is The Best. by jedisco(m): 11:23am On Aug 13, 2012

4peace: i pray to God this morning for you guys temmy & jedisco to get awof money and move on to another platform OS

Make una leave us nokia user alone we are tired of augument everytime symbian is mention on this forum.

The only other platform I'm willing to buy now is windows phone which is still awaiting wp8 and not fully available locally.

Android is too similar to symbian and the only advantage I see are the currently released HD games.

iphone is overpriced but lovely. I once had an apple device and I loved it but I feel like its a rip off for its price.

Seriously considering it cos of the data plans but its still quite limited in functionality for now.

Phones › Re: Nokia C7, E7 And N7 Which One Is The Best. by jedisco(m): 11:17am On Aug 13, 2012

[quote author=temmy.m3]Jedisco, The picture above is a 701 (above) and N8 (below)displaying the same content with both set at maximum brightness, The 1st pic is a Disney walt cartoon (video) and d 2nd was a random picture from Belle presets, can u spot the differences in screen colour accuracy and contrast ratio between both? which will u prefer huh

Dont forget dsame screen run your games o.
Having a smartphone aint just about... EH! I HAVE THE BIGGEST RAM AND THE FASTEST CPU + The Brightest smartphone eva produced .. Seriously if i should use that as my main reason of choosing a device, then am gonna keep changing phones every week. There are other main things you enjoy when u own a device apart from basic smartphone stuff, like how much contents is the in-built memory willin to contain, how good is the production ( Camera & Video) and cosumption as well ( Amoled or TFT), i do love getting the best out of gadget i own. Take for example FM TRANSMITTER, i noticed i get good transmission with the N8 in d car when i place the aluminium casing on any metal surface like the rear speakers? Also recording videos, there is another mic placed just below the loudspeaker to allow a professional recording of videos in stereo mode and voice cancelation. I also made a snapshot of a spinning standing fan on our previous thread to show how far an N8 camera could go, no matter how fast the object is. The phone has replaced my room's DVD player cos i plug my flashdrive via OTG Cable then connect to TV via HDMI and i enjoy a perfect picture quality + a good dolby sorround sound, i hav even uploaded my gaming moments on TV with the phone if u still remember. I v even made my own versions of Belle for N8. What more do i really want for a phone? Tell me, if i should hav 701 as my main device, will i really enjoy 50% of all this. Why should i go stand inside the sun cos i wanna feel the power of clearblack in sunlight? Or go for the sexiest phone (like a candy, as u always quote.lol) when i knew d plastic casin is really gonna start getting old before a year?
We all have our different reasons for choosing devices anyway

but as i v always said, all recent Nokia devices have their specific purposes, at least to me and consodering the lil' experiences i had with them
N8- Multimedia production
X7-Multimedia consumption
E7-Keyboard satisfaction
701-screen Brightness
808- The mother of them all, for now
It s your choice, but choose wisely![/quote]You don't need to post any picture (which is hardly authentic considering your bias) when there are loads of them online. I even provided a link.
Not all games man or have you forgotten about the 1GB tintin.

I take important things into perspective when making a decision and hardware which I'm never going to use is never an option.
Take for example the fm radio which I hardly use now compare this to the very bright dual led flash which I use as a torch multiple times every single day. So if you ask me to forfeit one, it would definitely be the radio.

Same goes to the smoothness of the device. The iphone is the most successful device today mainly because its smooth, fast and easy to use.
N8 may have a good camera but that is only noticed when taking pics (which it lags heavily at) compare that to the processors of 701 which is evident in every single activity.
Take a look at a quote from allaboutsymbian
'Whereas the N8 will be picked for its
camera, the 701 is a monster by Symbian
standards. To put it into perspective, the clunky
WRT-based Nokia Social loads from scratch in 3
seconds, Web loads in one second and All About Symbian loads in under ten seconds (c.f. 18
seconds on the N8). Effectively, everything on the
701 is almost twice as fast. Moving around the UI,
you get the feeling that if you could turn theme
effects off (you can't!) then everything would just
be 'instant'.

FYI the TV out on 701 can be used for that stuff (I attached the link above)

So if its down to the excellent camera and slow phone on N8 or good camera and fast phone on 701, my choice will be 701.

I can do without most of the hardware features on 701 But one thing I can't do is using a 256mb ram and 687MHz phone in 2012.

Forget all this trash about phones meant for different purposes that helped in killing Nokia. Even Nokia has stopped that and now release COMPLETE PHONES that that reflect their price range (not niche stuff).

In summary, the only symbian phones worth the money spent on buying them and which I can use my money to buy are 701 and 808.

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Phones › Re: Nokia C7, E7 And N7 Which One Is The Best. by jedisco(m): 11:15am On Aug 13, 2012*

@temmy
I think I'm done with this and it makes no sense repeating stuff over and over again.

1. FYI I've used an AMOLED device before (N86) which I regretted ever buying. And for the screen, that of 701 is much better. After using this phone, and trying out a friends C7 which was unconvincing with Anna, I decided to move to android. But later changed when 701 was out with belle.

And like I've always said, I prefer the screen of 701 to C7. Any advantage oled has over TFT is overtaken by the presence of CBD, a bright screen and much longer battery life while using it on bright pages- a very good feature for me since I do alot of browsing on my phone.

Moreover, I don't know where you got that trash from that I have to use every symbian device to have an opinion of them. You should remember that symbian has little or no fragmentation. I can give you a detailed explanation of any S^3 device without even using it

2. I'm still looking for where the op mentioned N8. Please show me when you see it.
Build- plastic is mainly used on the curved edges while the back is mainly steel and the front mainly the screen. Now compare this to the punched out ugly design on N8.
If you want to list every hardware feature, I have no problem with that but how did you forget these: smaller more beautiful design, lighter, double ram, bright CBD screen, double processor speed, better GPU, NFC, hardware hang up and call keys, dual led flash which can be used as a torch, 600mb memory on C:, much better battery backup, better upgradeability.

3. Unless you are trying to cover facts, its no secret that the drive C: which is 256mb (with about 120mb free) on N8 is grossly inadequate and can't be increased. Now compare that with over 600mb (over 400 free) on 701.
The whole net is littered with requests of N8 users asking how to increase their C: memory.

And please don't come up with any trash of not installing multiple apps on C which is exactly what I do. Mind you I have about 110mb left on C: can't imagine what it would have been on N8.
Maybe you should look at this link and find out how so hard it is for n8 users to free out just 45mb (and please don't say use the hacked version cos it still uses 20mb not everybody is interested in that)
http://mynokiablog.com/2012/06/19/update-for-nokia-n8-microsoft-apps-v2-01-at-nokia-suite/

4. Upgradeability- you must be joking right? Its just like a galaxy s user porting jb over and expecting thesame experience as that on SIII (when released). I've never used a cfw on my phone as it just makes it unstable. The only time I tried, I regretted it and had to reflash it with the original firmware.
Moreover, how many people even bother to hack their phones talkless of downloading very large files just to flash it?
So your attempt concerning leaked fp1 does not count for me.

TV out- yes I don't use it but its still got it. (Although its not HDMI)
http://m.youtube.com/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DWeOBADcs4p0&v=WeOBADcs4p0&gl=NG

It Seems as though you don't want to read this review and the comments
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/14959_Nokia_701_vs_N8_Torpedo_vs_Gui.php

I always give links so you would see I'm not making stories up but backing them with facts.

Phones › Re: Nokia C7, E7 And N7 Which One Is The Best. by jedisco(m): 10:23am On Aug 11, 2012

[quote author=temmy.m3]I tell u 701 DOESNT POSSESS ANY ADVANTAGE OVER THE OTHER! Mind u the poster never mentioned 701 na...[/quote]Neither did he mention N8 bro...

The only symbian phone I regard as being better than 701 in all round usability is 808 (with due
respect to N8s camera and E7s screen)

I think we're done with this comparison.
Anyway, while surfing a while ago I came across
an article comparing the 701 to N8 on points they
consider important (which I pretty much think
represents older S^3 devices except for some
subtle differences) I think they did a good job (also judging from
readers comments) but for the sake of
completeness and also bringing C7 and E7 into
focus, let me point out some things they missed
before posting theirs.

- Price: Its almost 50% cheaper than the others
except for C7 - Internal memory: 8GB although lower than that
on the N8 and E7, it has a much better allocation
between C: and E: so you hardly run out on C:
which can't be increased artificially.

-Upgradeability: Symbian has moved on from
Belle to Belle FP1 (which is much better than
Belle) and is currently awaiting FP2 (which
promises more). Out of the devices listed, only
701 uses FP1 and only it would get FP2 and
maybe more. The others may get something minor.

-Camera: That of N8 is much better. But 701 has a
2nd gen EDoF camera which is much better than
the 1st gen EDoF found on C7 and E7. It also has
dual led flash that can be used as a torch.

-TV Out- N8 and E7 both have the 3.5mm A/V and
HDMI while C7 and 701 have only the 3.5mm A/V
out option. Although this is not a feature I'm keen
on.

-Also only E7 has a 4 inch screen and physical
keyboard.

The remaining important things are covered in
the review which also includes users comments.
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/14959_Nokia_701_vs_N8_Torpedo_vs_Gui.php

Phones › Re: Nokia C7, E7 And N7 Which One Is The Best. by jedisco(m): 4:19am On Aug 11, 2012

I've been trying to make a post but it gets hidden after sometime.

Phones › Re: Nokia C7, E7 And N7 Which One Is The Best. by jedisco(m): 5:03am On Aug 10, 2012

[quote author=temmy.m3]I tell u 701 DOESNT POSSESS ANY ADVANTAGE OVER THE OTHER! Mind u the poster never mentioned 701 na...[/quote]Neither did he mention N8 bro...

The only symbian phone I regard as being better to 701 in all round usability is 808 (with due respect to N8s camera and E7s screen)

I think we're done with this comparison.
Anyway, while surfing a while ago I came across an article comparing the 701 to N8 on points they consider important (which I pretty much think represents older S^3 devices except for some subtle differences)

I think they did a good job (also judging from readers comments) but for the sake of completeness and also bringing C7 and E7 into focus, let me point out some things they missed before posting theirs.

- Price: Its almost 50% cheaper than the others except for C7

- Internal memory: 8GB although lower than that on the N8 and E7, it has a much better allocation between C: and E: so you hardly run out on C: which can't be increased artificially.

-Upgradeability- Symbian has moved on from Belle to Belle FP1 (which is much better than Belle) and is currently awaiting FP2 (which promises more). Out of the devices listed, only 701 uses FP1 and only it would get FP2 and maybe more. The others may get something minor.

-Camera: That of N8 is much better. But 701 has a 2nd gen EDoF camera which is much better than the 1st gen EDoF found on C7 and E7. It also has dual led flash that can be used as a torch.

-TV Out- N8 and E7 both have the 3.5mm A/V and HDMI while C7 and 701 have only the 3.5mm A/V out option. Although this is not a feature I'm keen on.
-Also only E7 has a 4 inch screen and physical keyboard

The remaining important things are covered in the review.
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/14959_Nokia_701_vs_N8_Torpedo_vs_Gui.php

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Phones › Re: Nokia C7, E7 And N7 Which One Is The Best. by jedisco(m): 4:03am On Aug 10, 2012

[quote author=temmy.m3]Wheeew, bro i neva knew how much u loved your 701 until i saw this post, had to go scroll back up to see who the poster was. Hmmmm. U and 701 sha. Incredible

Seriously u prefer a 701 screen to a C7?? What are u bro huh

lol. u still feel good with a TFT screen in 2012? Why is dat old screen still used on High-End devices anyway..
I know u luv 701 & u ar used 2 it but u need to try out other Nokia belle devices apart from its good looks and its upgraded RAM compared to some old Nokia Belle devices. I sold mine 2wks ago though. I tell u 701 DOESNT POSSESS ANY ADVANTAGE OVER THE OTHER! Mind u the poster never mentioned 701 na...

@OP. It depends on what u really wanna be doing with your device. First, NEVER EVER CONSIDER BUYING AN EXPENSIVE PHONE WITH A TFT SCREEN if you wanna get a good quality of Movies, games and pictures and display generally.[/quote]This has nothing to do with love for a device I may soon stop using. I just felt like giving some input about my preference and like I remember posting 'except if your mind is made up'. This was me just just saying what my choice would be.

Coming to the screen issue. The last time I checked, the most expensive and successful general phone the iphone which together with the ipad receives over 75% of smartphone profits uses a TFT screen (which obviously has sold better than all of Nokias AMOLEDs put together)
There are several high-end androids that use a TFT screen.
So the issue of TFT being on low end devices is false. And like I keep repeating there are several cheaper AMOLED screen devices.

Moreover, I don't know where you got the idea that a great screen all depends on whether it uses TFT or AMOLED.

Alot of factors are involved like: physical screen materials, screen technologies (LCD versus OLED), pixel layouts (RGB variations), brightness, color accuracy, contrast ratio, reflectance, screen size, and pixel resolution.

Taking the 701 and C7(or N8) for instance most of the above are constant except for brightness (with 701 having the brightest screen on a smartphone) and reflectance which Nokias ClearBlack display more than takes care of.

So all-in-all, I still prefer the screen on 701 to that on C7. As far as symbian is concerned, only E7 and 808 have better screens.

Also a comparison has already been done:
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/13649_IPS_TFT_versus_AMOLED_Nokia_70.php
This might also be helpful:
http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57445567-85/hd-super-amoled-versus-retina-display-and-other-screens-smartphones-unlocked/

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