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vescucci:
You have more than enough thunder by yourself, darling. There's no context that can mitigate the quotes significantly.

I was trying to be nice to the Talumdians now . . .

Obinna & Vesc, I declare Toy Tori to be tori. Sue me

Lets get on with the Departed jare.

vescucci:
JeSoul! You'd be beheaded in the courts antiquity o! Not up to 4 minutes between all the Toy Stories? Sigh. Toy Story is a cult thing anyway. The hyper nostalgic potion that takes an average man back forty years provided you have any semblance of a childhood. It takes me back, to nothingness, yeah, I know. I sound apologetic. This is not a good sign.

oh my bad, I meant to say 1 minute total  . The thing like I said, looks one kain  . Absolutely zero interest in it.

@Obinna, I echo Spiky's comments, I do like animations - just not Toy Story  .

@Spiky, hope your eyes are still intact   I have a fresh box of contact lens if you need to borrow until your next optometrist visit.

and I just noticed Vesc has already asked the second question I was going to . . . stealing my thunder As is customary for me on fridays, I play devil's advocate.

   InesQor, can your argument also be applied to some OT verses?

InesQor:
" Gittin 57a: "Jesus is in hell and is being punished by being boiled in semen. Christians are boiled in dung.

" Sanhedrin 105ab: "Jesus fornicated with his jackass..

" Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is of three years of age.

wow, is this real? Was it orginally in some kind of context that would render it less alarming than single quotes? just curious.

bawomolo:
the thing about voting for ABE is that most of these ABE guys have little to offer in terms of policy making.  it's easy to moan about high taxes and family values in a town hall but these guys have little to offer on how to combat the deficits most america cities and states are facing.   the racist extremists among them aren't helping either.   

these ABE guys are just preying on emotionally sensitive americans who have little knowledge on how government works. these are the same people who want tax cuts to be extended but somehow want to keep medicare and medicaid.  how is that possible without a deficit they claim they would reduce.    the GOP is wise enough to dissociate from tea partiers before they turn it into a niche party. 

i know i'm generalizing but you can't run a country alone on populist rhetoric.  its hilarious the people who were most in support of the wars became fiscal conservatives overnight.

First of all, I think this is the longest post I've ever seen you type  .

Secondly, you make good points when you say there aren't really that many 'new' alternatives or "ideas" coming from the ABE guys, but I point to the mess that is the country now - Bawo what have the established geniuses that went to Harvard done for us? I am willing to give the nobody's a shot. What have we got to loose?

And I do think its a gross overstatement to say "these ABE guys are just preying on emotionally sensitive americans who have little knowledge on how government works". I do hope you're not one of those who thinks most americans are "silly" and "clueless". They weren't called silly when they voted Obama into office, why are they silly now they disagree with him? I happen to think "running a government" while not a cakewalk, is not rocket science. As simplistic as "spend less, tax less" sounds, it is true when you get down to the bare bones.

the tea party is a movement that would run out of steam considering it has no ideological backbone besides stop spending and obama is a socialist rants.

Stop watching MSNBC dude  . These are the selling points far-lefters are handing out like candy to whomever will take them without thought.  How can thousands upon tens of thousands of Americans who've marched and demonstrated for months all around the country be solely motivated by "empty rants"? they just feel like screaming and crying for no good reason? a good chunk of them who voted for the same Obama just 2yrs ago? think Bawo, think 

^Lol. I can imagine what the other drivers in the cars behind would be thinking, "when it gets to my turn . . . "

vescucci:
This silly democracy thing sef. No wonder it takes 3 years to decide to build a dam, another 4 years of building, another 3 years of abandonment, another 2 years trying to decide if the project is worth continuing and the decision is usually no. You people should give me veto power jare. Hmmm, veto is and anagram of vote

Lol. But then we have to vote to give you power of veto. Shall we begin? 

Toy Story Trilogy? (we're using "trilogy" for correct movies like Bourne and LOTR and POTC etc and toy story too self wan feel among?)

spikedcylinder:
Inyama!

I couldn't have said it better. I have not seen more than 1 minute of a single installment of TS sha . . . the thing look one kin. Lets do the departed jor.

bawomolo:
roger clemens and brett favre didn't make that list. hmmmmmm

Gbam left, right and center.

Picks for this weekend. I will be thoroughly, completely and utterly upset if the Patriots do not stomp all over the Jets and come out with a win. Somebody needs to silence those so-called hard knocks. For people who ain't won jack, they sure talk a lot.

My eye is also on Romo vs. Cutler somebody is going to be needing adult diapers, question is who?

Manning vs. Manning is being hyped just a tad too much jare. But we go see sha. I have my money on the snr brother, I don't see the Colts starting the season 0-2, though I wouldn't mind at all.

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=514190.msg6766519#msg6766519 date=1284659609]Thank you both for the correction . . . . done!

JeSoul, what's going on dear?  I should be coming up to your area soon but I'm thinking on deferring till after winter[/quote]oh cool. Lemme know when you're in town. There's this Ghanian restaurant that will knock your socks off  .

. . . . and please give me something better than "people will vote". lmao!

yessir. Hows this?

JeSoul:
Moderates may not be too thrilled about their far right options, but when presented with the choice of two evils, I think they'll go with the newer one.

I think the latest talk of independents/moderates will not vote for a Tea Partier is conciliatory pep talk intended to inspire the uninspired democratic base. I'm registered independent and even I will not be voting republican. I will be voting ABE - anybody but the establishment. I don't care if ms Delaware Tea partier or any other candidate only has a middle school degree or WAEC certificate. What have the harvarders and yalers done with all their wisdom?

. . did you hear about John Kerry's letter to the party members? They acknowledge after all that tea party is a contender.

Lef them. Eliot Spitzer (I wonder who let him out of the cage self) was on John King 2 nights ago saying the TP is going to fizzle out and is not credible. Well, we go see in November.

^^ lol, that picture is tight jare. Haters be gone.

bawomolo:
thanks to the surge of the tea party, the GOP may struggle to get moderate votes. there is still hope for the democrats.

an oxymoronic statement if I ever saw one. Still pipe-dreaming Bawo? Moderates may not be too thrilled about their far right options, but when presented with the choice of two evils, I think they'll go with the newer one.

cap28:
Have you ever listened to any of his speeches?  Does he spread lies and falsehoods in a bid to incite racial hatred or does he tell black people the truth about what is  happening to them in a world where they are powerless?

You call it "truth", I would use a very different noun to describe it.

Je soul your way of thinking is really dangerous because it causes you to live in a state of false consciousness, Farrakhan as far as I know provides black people in the world with information about what is really going on around them and because the white establishment is terrified of the oppressed peoples of the world rising up to dislodge them from their position they try to discredit him by calling him a racist and a race baiter, these are tactics that have been used time and time again by the enemy when he wants to keep us ignorant and backward and yet we still havent understood the game.

Cap, are there still white-supremacist-establishment powers-that-be working tirelessly against blacks? I have no doubt that is true. Does this group constitute the vast, or even less-than-vast majority of white (or other races) around the world? No. Imho. I do not think that there is some massive, surreptitious conspiracy being constantly concocted and executed to "keep blacks down" around the world from progressing. I think the "oppression" we blacks cry today (while a certain small percentage is indeed real) is for the most part either imagined or self-inflicted.

  Look at Nigeria for Christ's sake. Does the white-establishment cause the religious rioting? the corruption in Aso rock? the theiving policmen at checkpoints? the murdering of "child witches"? the mechanic sabotaging your car so you'll keep coming back? the pastors and mogs fleecing the flock? the politicians lining their pockets with finances meant for education and hospitals? which of these oppressive actions did the white man cause? (perhaps only the massive mess in the Niger-delta can be cited).

and if the opinions I have expressed above makes me a "pink in disguise" or is causing me to "live in a state of false consciousness" then so be it.

^^ . Touche. Omo, we go discuss Foxnews gist at some point soon I'm sure. Lemme answer these fellas . . .

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chyz:
Against what "facts" are you basing his argument against? The video was not in discussion about abacha sentiment by his countrymen or white or pork. I'm not going for the whole "our irrational dislike for white people" thing what i want to know what "facts" to you have to prove what he is saying is wrong? I dont care about his character,everyone has their own opinion.

If I'm understanding you right (please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) this is the sequence of the conversation so far:

  Cap opens thread and says "Farrakhan Confirms West's Involvement In Abacha's assassination"

  JS says "where is proof for these allegations?" "why should we trust Farrakhan and Abacha? giving their sordid histories?"

  Chyz says "JS, where is your proof that what Farrakhan is saying is not true?"

So you are in essence asking me to provide evidence to the contrary, to a purely speculative claim? I'm not the one making definitive declarations, is onus is squarely on you and Cap's shoulders to provide evidence for that which you assert.

Suppose I open a thread and declare "I am the long lost heir to the throne of England". You and Cap dismiss my claims as unverifiable. Then I return and demand you show your proof that I am indeed not the long lost heir to the throne. Surely, you see the problem sir?

lol. I predict people will vote.

oh, and Negro you may want to modify your title to be more descriptive that its the US mid-term elections.

Lol. E pele. Hope it didn't hurt too much

chyz:
Explain to me what exactly that conspiracy is? since of course you have all of the solid facts in the world.

Chyz, lets look at this for a minute shall we;

-The only real fact we have in all this is that Abacha was a foul, foul person of a human being who left terrible, undisputable footprints of human and economic abuse on this great country.

-Now, Farrakhan himself does not have a good track record. He is known for his extreme aversion to all things "white" or pink as Bishop likes to put it.

    Now, in light of those two points, should we now take both their word - in absense of any kind of evidence - as the absolute truth?  If it were MLK making these accusations I can bet you the rest of us would take a lot more seriously. The source matters. We must not let our sometimes irrational dislike for "white people" to cloud our judgement and begin to entertain these kinds of unverifable speculations (that acheive nothing by the way) that we would otherwise not.

and oh, I certainly do not have a pinch of all the facts in the world. Just wanted to clear that up. Cheers.

[quote author=Mad_Max link=topic=512364.msg6760694#msg6760694 date=1284581033]Love you too JS. Who wouldn't? You're so random. [/quote]Maxy, you have levels of randomness that I can only dream about, in my dreams dream. Please, don't be modest on account of all the 'strangers' in here

DS na wa for you oh. I thought you would walk away from this one but I guess your addiction is strong beyond strong.

MyJoe, perhaps DS gets that special treatment because he is special?

Lol which one you dey now oya, lets review Beyonce's Obsessed again. Abi you want nollywood? then lets do "My Private Part"

Lets do The Departed . . . its on Kobi's list  . _{while also secretly voting for Iron Man du-logy}

montelik:
What? Don't you know that Fox news is center of all things evil. Those racist, war mongering, gay bashing, illiterate, hateful, bigoted, islamophobic red-necks. Fox news is the axis of evil, and Rupert Murdoch is the Antichrist, full stop.

Oh that's right!! my bad sir, no vex, I suppose know

^no idea. Can anyone throw some light?

^that's more like it jare.

  Since we're naming the people we love, have I mentioned that I love Madmax? she abandoned us in the movie section in favor of MyJoe's thread (darn you myjoe).

  Enigma is father to my little husband so ya'll be careful with my in-law.

and DS, you dis lawyer sef, you're so tenacious with debates. You should coolit down sometimes ehn.

Inesqor, you cannot contribute until you pay your return fee. Kunle is the treasurer.

Enigma, the yoruba is rusty but I think I got it. Easy is always good sir.

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@ MyJoe, Enigma, DS and Nuke,

honestly, I think the whole thing is just a big misunderstanding and clash of egos - and all sides are equally guilty. But this too shall pass . . . I know all of you to be honest and good natured and I know you will all return to the friendly banter that has characterized your conversations here.

Common now fellas . . . I hate seeing all these wonderful men I respect very much engaged as such. Can the slate be wiped clean between Enigma and Deepsight (and perhaps also MyJoe)? pleaaaaassssssseeee!