₦airaland Forum

jagunlabi:
God is evil?Well,it all depends on what is referred to as GOD here.The "one true God" is as many as there are humans.The god of the OT is just another one of them.If that creature is whom you guys are referring to as evil,then,according to the OT,He was evil.But to even call that creature "God" is a blasphemy.
I[b] think modern christians are already regretting that the early christian fathers did not take the lead of Marcion and barnished this ancient albatros of a deity from their holy texts.It would have been a whole lot more convenient for modern christians today.[/b]
Having to explain away all those atrrocities committed by this socalled "god of love" is nigh impossible,no matter how hard any christian or jew tries.
Davidylan is battling an already lost and hopeless battle of trying to explain away those attrocities because there is no explaining them away.

Lol . . . is this what atheists tell themselves to cajole themselves into believing christians 'avoid' the OT?

ThiefOfHearts:
Good. Jami4e ko Jamie ni

The same people would whine so bad if a white actor was used to portray a black figure/

Gbam! Gbam!! and GBAM!!!

ThiefOfHearts:
Can I get links stating that Jamie is being considered in a Sinatra movie

Yeah I didn't find any either.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20279201,00.html
this one lists Leonardo DiCaprio, Johnny Depp, Joe Jonas, Robert Pattinson and Justin Timberlake as the contenders.

DiCap and Depp should feel insulted for being mentioned in the same sentence with the other names.

Shame indeed to PETA 'n' co

There's some speculation he could be headed for New Orleans . . . as a WR. I think this less 'visible' position than QB would be better for him so that he is not under scrutiny every play.

Other possible fits mentioned are NC and TB. I think if he were to switch to a receiver, many many more teams could use his services.

I still don't think Orlando is all that. When they shoot well from the 3 pt line they win, when they don't they lose, and they happened to shoot it well last night.

  LeBron did his best to overcome the no-show of his bench and supporting cast. I think the bench ended up with less than 10pts or so - no matter who you are you will not win if your bench does a dissapearing act on you.
 
Denver vs. La tonight . . . we'll find out the great play of Melo n' co was just a fluke or a new trend.

toneyb:
The same god told his chosen men to rape and murder others in the bible for no reason at all except that they were worshiping other gods. He even encouraged his chosen people to steal from other. why not tell his chosen men to preach to them? why tell his chosen men to burn their cities including innocent women and children as a burnt sacrifice unto him? is that not a heinous crime?

When has killing innocent children become a punishment?  the punishment is not done only to the offender but to his family and his descendants in most of the bible. I am saying that killing innocent babies by dashing them upon rocks and ripping open the uteri of pregnant women is evil no matter when or why it happens.  If it is godly to those that say it is then so be it.  That just means that IF there is a god AND he did order such things to be done as it says in the bible, then god is evil.

How can infants be wicked? Why is it that when God(and all the other Gods like Allah of the koran) do something, then morality doesn't matter any more? Why is it that when God ordered the murder of thousands upon thousands of babies and that thousands of fetuses be ripped our of tehir mothers' wombs, it was because the babies and fetuses had "wicked attitudes. Why is it that when God tells Men to cut off the hands of women that try to rescue their husband from their assailants, it is the woman that are always at fault? Why are we having this discussion when the bible god himself admit that he is evil?

Once you've stripped yourself all your bias and prejudice against God and the bible and can be somewhat objective please re-ask the above questions and I am sure one of us christians will be glad do our best and answer.

Horus:
I didnt changed the word evil and the verse, it is like it is in your bible,it is your own ego who decided that it was not in your context instead of dealind with the Fact that you still dont give us evidences and proofs that your "god" didnt create evil. And who allowed the existence of evil?

See the above.

Hurray! Vick is outta prison and goes home to serve the rest of the sentence.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4183786

Abeg come back and conquer in the NFL

Niga Lurva:
What have we gained from religion except make pastors richer than they would have been. Why do you think every wants to start their church? Am sure you JeSoul has a church hence hiding the attrocities commited by church and mosque.

lol . . . No Jesoul does not have a church. But I do have a job where I have to work hard and smart to provide for myself and those around me that I am blessed to help.

I am against the charlatans who are parading as pastors and hate that they fleece a good chunk of the population. BUT theiving pastors are not even a tip off the iceberg of the root and cause of Nigeria's problems, so lets not give them more credit than they deserve.

The politics section is ripe with all kinds of issues that contribute to the decayed state of the nation.

lol I know Eddie Murphy has committed some unpardonable sins.

spikedcylinder:
I agree, Nicholson does have a sinister looking face. In The Little Shop of Horrors, he looked like ode sha.

Lol now I won't mind seeing that.

debosky:
Maybe not all of us, but some nairalanders make me believe that a good proportion (especially Nigerians) evolved from lemurs.

lol . . . that no one can argue with

lol . . . I've never liked him. That face is beyond a turn off, its a shut down. and those dark black-out shades he wears permanently only serves to enhance my aversion and fortify my suspicions - the dude is evil 

I haven't seen those movies, and I probably won't  . Most recently I forced myself to stomach him in The Departed.

I just heard . . . that woman is preganant with Nowitski's baby
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4182007

and btw, the Clippers get the #1 pick . . . if anyone can find a way to screw this one up, it's the Clippers

One look at his evil face and it speaks volumes.

and he's not even a very good comedian at that    He's always saying something nasty or sexual or inapporpriate. I'm usually indifferent to most actors, but he just disgusts me, he and Jack Nicholson - 2 people I cannot stand.

Niga Lurva:
Maybe you should also drop holier than thou attitude. It works both way, stop forcing religion down other people throat, this is why nigeria is poor.

So Nigeria is poor becos people go to church and go to mosques? and choose to believe in the existence of a God?
this is why Nigeria is poor?

[quote author=Mad_Max link=topic=173006.msg3894832#msg3894832 date=1242819373]@JS
What are Jamie Foxx's sins?[/quote]How much cyber-space do we have?

Spot on Dr. The Lakers did not win that game, Denver gave it away. If they shoot 10% better at the FT line they would have won easily.
Also I am more than impressed at how good Carmelo's defense is I could not believe how well he played Kobe. Denver should be encouraged . . . they coulda very easily won this game apart from a boneheaded in-bound pass.

[quote author=dr.ucheGoD link=topic=148652.msg3893321#msg3893321 date=1242795471]Sharp, Sharp! you don reach . Gone are the days when travelling to Naija was a bi-daily affair. And Oh, how I miss the reverberating cycle of sudden loss of power supply, returning a few hours/days/weeks later to the jubilant cries of "UP NEPAAAAA" . Enjoy yasef, but look out for your plasmodium-bearing lil friends. [/quote]Lol . . . men I don't miss that at all!

Moonstone, hope you're having urself a blast girl I have 1 request, can you eat enough suya for me? I miss it so much

Horus:
Yourself here agree that the translation may not be the best,so why you dont blame the one who translated the bible?,you never answered this question. And yes anyone can make the bible say anything they want, including You.

I said the translation is not the best, doesn't that imply the translators could have done a better job? The fact still remains you chose to stretch and extend the verse beyond what is said[b] in context[/b].

Just say that you cant answer his question about your bible, or maybe your bible is just a sarcastic "book"?

Some of us don't have the time to waste on frivolous nonsense. I prefer to use my short time wisely in discourse with genuine people who though we may disagree still maintain intellectual honesty. That is sorely lacking in majority of the posts on this thread.

So if the discussants see it wise enough to drop the sarcasm and smarter-than-thou attitude, I will be more happy to engage.

duduspace:
Some sort of Vox populi, Vox Dei right? no wonder why God speaks in discordant tunes, he is only echoing the ideals of the people who claim his existence.

Are you implying that all the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah participated in those crimes? is god so much lacking in precision that American laser guided munitions are more accurate in identifying their targets? can it be that scientists have surpassed god in this regard?

or can it be that the olden day Jews wiped out perceived enemies with different cultures and religion (as they are still doing today) and then rewrote history to embolden their offsprings while striking terror into the hearts of the communities that surrounded them?

Sarcasm thinly veiled as conversation/discussion. Sorry brotha, of such, I refuse to be a participant.

bawomolo:
Doesn't God realize that humans are imperfect and would definitely mess up at some point? His whole paradise creation plan seems to have hit a glitch. Why not just abort it all?

God knew beforehand that man would fall short of His ideal. The solution? Jesus Christ.

That would mean evil is in the Arsenal of God. An Omnipotent/Omnipresent God should encompass the good the bad the everything.

No. That would mean your definition of evil is in the Arsenal of God.

As I pointed out look at the natural disasters God carried out in the OT. They are all meted out as punishment.  Is it evil for a judge to condemn a serial killer to death? For the courts to send to deathrow the soul who rapes and murders a child? In the same way it is not evil for God to punish those people as He saw fit for their atrocious transgressions.
You and others may not accept it by your earthly moral 'standards' but this is the biblical explanation and position for why God did those things.

BTW, read aksat's entire post and put the line you selected to quote back into context. Perhaps the phrasing is a little off but I believe he's basically saying Jesus died for all, but the 'evil' ones choose not to accept Him.

Horus:
Dont blame me you should blame the one who translated your bible. Did I translated the bible?. If your pastor, preacher, teacher, minister, deacon or any other religious leader really cared, he would take time out to research the original language, rather than rely on poor translations.

Au contraire, while the translation may not be the best the problem is YOU reading it out of context and choosing to stretch and extend its meaning beyond what is suggested in the verse. Anyone can make the bible say anything they want, all they have to do is read & quote it out of context.

bawomolo:
I'm trying to be a jackass here but aren't disasters evil?  No one exactly is pleased when an hurricane comes to town.

It's not to extreme to consider the Christian God the creator of evil considering how he brags of it's omnipotence and being the top dog.

lol i smell the sarcasm here.

You could certainly make the case for that from a human point of view. But I'm assuming (correct me if I'm wrong) the "evil" Horus was attributing to the God of the bible is moreso in the moral sense.
  God didn't cause disasters in the bible becos He was bored or was eager to show off how powerful He was and how powerless we are to stop Him. We see God causing disasters in the OT as a means of punishment for the most heinous sins on record. I would think the rapists and murderers in Sodom and Gomorrah got just what they deserved.

Toshmann,

  There's nuthin overly admirable in what Obama said. How else could he have reacted? insulted the pro-lifers? He probabaly didn't even write the speech - hope you know that. But yeah like u highlighted the one thing we can all agree is its best to reduce unwanted pregnancies.

 However I do disagree with the overly fanatic protesters. Let the president go and give a common speech jare. They have a right to disagree but all this drama over the honorary degree is unnecessary - he is the president of the country! it is an honor to have him speak at your commencement whether or not you like him. There are much more important battles to fight.

 I'm pro-life but I don't think women should be forced by the govt. to make that choice.

By the wayside, the NBA lottery is tonight. Tough to say who needs the #1 pick the most . . . we had some real duds this year for teams.

Chiogo,

my lil bro is president of the African Club over at Amherst _{says the proud big sister} . . . lemme know if you need details or help or info on anything .

bawomolo:
umm Bill Walker sucks, that's like the bulls playing Aaron Gray.

The lakers would crush the nuggets in 6 games

Orlando should beat the Cavs in 7.

na me talk am

Bynum should just be a junior in College. Give the young man a break. He should get more playing time after the lakers get rid of Odom in the offseason.

lol, what confidence! So does anyone expect the Lakers to rid themselves permanently of Odom?
I also expect the Lakers to beat Denver . . . I won't go so far as to say "crush Denver", but win the series? yes I think the Lakers will pull it together.

The only scenario I see Orlando beating the Cavs in 7 is if they shoot the 3-ball at an exceptional % (70% and up).

lo Dr. na copy & paste & quote job oh! I take no credit for the Dbanj video  'artists' (i use that term very generously) of his type are poster children for everything that's wrong with music 

  but I relish the experience of my very first video dedication  gracias!

[quote author=dr.ucheGoD link=topic=148652.msg3887412#msg3887412 date=1242707569]Now, now, it is noteworthy, that in Naija we have an abundance of human resources including different kind of dokitas, any kind of which I could be. We get the witch-doctors (Ayamatanga, Willy-willy & the likes), native doctors (Babalawo, ndi-dibia, etc), even con-doctors (insert your own esoteric references) and then some medical doctors (in that order of patronage and perhaps perceived potency ). And as per the raise, HAHAHA, suffice to say that if I was a year older/not legally single, i would probably be receiving a lot of tax return MULA$$$ and/or medicaid.[/quote]Lol. You must be a comedian of exceptional quality  I know say na correct doctor you be. Not that long ago me self was aiming for medschool . . . after 1 summer internship program observing surgeries and toying with cadavers and an ER stint, I decided it wasn't my cup of lipton .


A-40,
  lol @ half-man half-horse Howard    Seriously sometimes I look at his shoulders and arms and wonder what his mother fed him as a child  . We shall see as the series unfolds . . .
  Bynum with Rihanna? . . . lol his decision making is surely questionable lol . . . he will probably foolishly attempt a shake and bake at half-court against a Lebron James one of these games 

Horus:
The Christian God is also The Creator of evil. According to Isaiah 45:7 the Lord that you go to church and worship every Sunday created evil:

"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things".

(Go and read it in your bible)

Wrong.

 The word for evil in Hebrew "rah" can mean many things. Only the KJV translates the word to 'evil' in our english and its the only translation you conviniently used. Other translations use the more contextually appropriate word of 'disaster'.
 
I know you don't care to read it in context but here it means calamity, disaster or such as is demonstrated in the case of God destroying Sodom & Gomorrah and the plagues on Egypt and the great flood etc.
  God creates disasters not 'evil'.

I think you meant to write "movie snobs suck jare" . . . they have committed some egregious sins over the years.

ThiefOfHearts:
Havent seen 3:10 yet. Not a fabn of westerns

I like Downey but I cant be bothered by the Soloist. Not a fan of Jamie

A sentiment I share most whole heartedly.

[quote author=Mad_Max link=topic=173006.msg3885403#msg3885403 date=1242666362]Oh you. How have you been? You like Russell Crowe, don't you?
Ehn, he shot the guy for killing his friend Christian Bale na. The 'poor' creature must have died confused; after all he'd done to 'rescue' Crowe. Who didn't need rescuing for even a second and went along from the beginning only cos he wanted to. You like The Mask, yeh? Almost all the movies on the comedy nominee list are just as funny, and a few just as insane. Have you seen Kung Fu Hustle?[/quote]Lol I was thinking the same thing. But then the dude was too slow . . . he saw Crowe very willingly running away without any coercion with batman towards the train, dogding bullets, could he not infer from that and get a hint?   

  btw, I have been fine o jare 

Haven't seen Soloist. But, you know, there's one way to save yourself movie disappointment:
Select movies that have, over the Oscars 80-year history,been nominated for either Best Picture, Best Original Screenplay, Best Adapted Screenplay, Best Foreign Language Film or Best Animated Feature. That's almost 2000 titles already. Life's too short for mediocre movies or books or anything else jare. Why 'settle' when somehting extraordinary is available? Of course, after years on a steady diet of those, you'll become snooty and impossible to please like you-know-who.

lol I hear you sista. Don't worry I won't become snotty like i-dunno-who    becos I'll give myself the occasional Norbit and White Chicks to keep myself grounded 

Max,
I enjoyed 3:10 to Yuma esp the end where he shoots down his own crew now that's hardcore

Has anyone seen The Soloist? I need someone to confirm my suspicions that it's superficial sentimental crap. I've read some pretty damning reviews.

[quote author=dr.ucheGoD link=topic=148652.msg3883931#msg3883931 date=1242652833]Hahaha, Not quite! It's only the second week i'm off. _{though I know it seems like we known each other for years already} . Several weeks I wish!!! Oh, and it's nothing different from what other Drs do, doctor stuff [/quote]we have a dokitor in the house people now we know who to suck up to in case we're ever in need of a raise 
   

Oh, but he did stink out when it mattered most, hehehe

Abeg na wise boy. Why win and be rewared with a sweep from the raging Cavaliers? 

[quote author=dr.ucheGoD link=topic=148652.msg3883891#msg3883891 date=1242652320]Aww, I'm envious and jealous. Haven't been to the homeland in almost 2years. Have a safe trip to and fro and bring back whatever delicacy is in season; be it Sheri mangoes or roast agbado, akara and akamu or kuli-kuli and ekpa [/quote]2 little yrs . . . some of us have been refugeed for much much longer   

Hmm, tell us more about this head-rooting trip to Naija. Does it involve any wine-carrying business as well??

Yes yes pls tell us.

With the way[b] the Magic struggled against a decimated Celtics team, I cant really fathom how they will deal with the clinical efficiency of the Cavs[/b], but we shall see. May just turn into a shooting contest after-all

hehe they won't. I won't be the least bit suprised to see a sweep, at the worst the magic will win only 1 game.

btw about embedding a youtube video:
here are directions as gotten from a fellow NLder:

1. Copy the you tube link URL -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxmMfLn1eU8

2   Click on the flash link (the color ball under the Bold button)

3   The following will appear    {flash=200,200][/flash]

4  change to following parameters to  [flash=400, 350]  or whatever size you prefer.

5  paste your youtube link in between No. 3  and replace the "?" and "="   replace with "/" and "/"

6 outcome  {flash=200,200]http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/PxmMfLn1eU8{/flash]

"This is how I feel -- if you want to see the Pittsburgh Steelers, invite us when we don't win the Super Bowl. As far as I'm concerned, he [Obama] would've invited Arizona if they had won

lol . . . dude is funny. At least he's consistent and didn't go when Bush was president so we know its not a politically motivated decision. Well I guess to each his own. If I were invited to Congress I would joyously accept . . . and buy 1 ton of tomatoes to throw at all those idiots we managed to elect into power