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who says you're no longer welcome?

what we're tired of is ur incessant, unrelenting obsession with discrediting christianity. We're tired of you posting millions of topics and never staying long enuff to thoroughly engage in discussion & respond to the answers that are given to you, before running off to start a new confused topic.

You are welcome, and people will embrace and discuss with you. But you must stop this madness! or else you won't find anyone that pays any attention to you.

Gamine:
@JeSoul

I mean,

Better a man is passionate about sports than women

Better he has sports to occupy his mind than women

So he would have ONLY me and His sport ,
not me and Some spotted gals!

in that case I am 1000% with you!

doyin13:
I understand na. . .that is why I wished Ken Griffey Jr. for the Red Sox. . .in fact i bet you could tease Mo Vaughn out of retirement.

you already know! Jnr without all those injuries was well on his way to the record. . . it's too bad some people just have bad luck.

If Chad Johnson goes to the Patriots. . . .then i will go on a Columbine Bostonian spree

lol. . . ocho cinco baby! feel free to come to boston, you would do well as Randy's partner in crime.

Do you honestly believe that Bonds or Clemens would not have been big stars without the steroids.Its a moot point but i suspect they would have been fine. Maybe would not have put on the career numbers.
home run king or three hundred wins and all that malarky but i suspect they would have done jus great. . .

oh I think they were definately big time stars without the juice, but the drugs imho pushed them to legendary status. See how big those guys got over the yrs? its usually the reverse. people loose steam with age, not become the likeness of the incredible hulk!

Oh b t w. . .please tell me you hate, ok considering your cherubic qualities, at least dislike A-Rod.

you know me well baby!
A-Rod is a selfish, self-centered human being. It's easy to dislike him. Imagine announcing his opt-out in the middle of game7 world-series, then asking mlb teams to cough up 350mil? then crawling back to the yankees, begging for forgiveness and kissing their behind. . . all in the name of the dollar! I have no respect for A-rod at all oh!

God forgive me. . .I hope he has a career threatening injury to stop him from breaking the home run record.

if only ken griffey had been healthy. . . he would have been a worthy successor to hank aron. . .sweetest swing in baseball

I know! worthy indeed! Ken G is a lovable human being, I hope he can salvage and make good use of whatever yrs he has left in the majors.

neways. . .i just want to keep that post black, if you catch my drift

oooohhhh infact I catch am so tey I no fit handle am! 

doyin13:
But Jesoul, you must remember that when these people took these steroids, they were not strictly breaking the rules
under the very lax substance policies of the game. . .

You right it wasn't illegal then and they can never be 'punished' for it BUT they knew what they were doing was wrong - otherwise they would not have done it secretly. They knew it gave them an unfair edge over their competitors and they went along and did it anyways. That's morally wrong.
  Even one former yankee pitcher came forward (not a well known guy, I forget his name) and said that if he'd never used steroids he woulda never made it into AA, not to talk of even the major league. That was someone's spot he took that didn't cheat with steroids.

B T W. . .did you jus hear that Manny, Big Papi and Beckett jus got traded. . .

ah ah why you go scare me like that now? I just went to espn.com to make sure you were just joking, 
Manny traded maybe, but Boston is in love with Papi, I guarantee you he will not be traded anytime soon. As for 'prospects' almost the whole sphere of sports is in a "win now" mode.

People would rather have a kevin garnett now than hope for a greg oden blossoming in the future. A Chad johnson now than a future 1st rd pick etc. . . you catch my drift? 

probably for the reason the sports governing body does not have the kind of power the congress does.
If they lie to congress, they can be prosecuted for perjury, but if they lie to Bulig selig and other baseball authorities, there'll be no repercussions.

I know there's hundreds of much more important things to take care of but it doesn't mean we can't still regulate and investigate our sports. Though not to the degree of assigning too much time and funds to it.

yeah all the africans I know can't understand why baseball is called a sport! lol I dunno, but I sure like it!

anyways, I agree that taped conversation was very suspect. No hint of a retraction by Mcnamee and nuthin about him having lied. Why won't Clemens just give up the charade?

and i kind of agree congress has more pressing issues to attend to but I admit I also want to know is he did it. At least 4 of his cy young awards must be returned - just like marion jones returned her medals. It's even worse for someone who's presented himself as "perfect", i can't wait for him to fall flat on his face!

now I'm off to go test those "bloody syringes and beer cans for dna!"

Gamine:
Better Sports than Women o!

ahh no way oh Gamine!
What can sports do for a man that a woman can't?
But I can tell you what a woman can do for a man that sports can never come close to doing. . .

I know there must be at least 1 person on nairaland besides me who follows baseball.

So how about it? do you believe Roger didn't take steroids?

I think he's an arrogant ________ and lying thru his teeth! he did take it, especially since Andy Pettitte came out and said Roger told him he took them. So far McNamee has been proven right in all his accusations. Why is Clemens still lying? just admit it and ask forgiveness. We all saw what happened to Marion Jones - she denied it for yrs only to come out and cry that she did.

so far the reasons I've gotten include:

1. It is in your genes

2. Sports is a means of relaxation

3. Sports is better than women becos it is cheaper

4. I don't know

5. You love competition

6. It's a masculine thing, it brings out the real "man" in a man


hmmmm. . . . . .I guess it must be in ur genes but I also suspect it a nuture thing too. Like the fanaticism and passion and madness passed down from men generation to men generation . . . u no think so?

bawomolo:
i'm not the poster known for dodging questions and rambling about other people's intelligence.

your religion and homosexuality thread is one of the most ridiculous I've seen in a long time. Complete misrepresentation of biblical facts, refusal to show proof of your claims about the bible, stubborness to accept the facts and verses when they're shown to you, deliberate twisting and turning in hopes to avoid the plain truth staring you dead in the face!

   sounds like a dodger to me tryn to convince himself he's not one. You heard Gamine, give it up! you're not making any progress.

IDINRETE:
yes
mangrabosharap reboskellelleema roskeyapemariboskelapar rubaskayparammarobosentiammaammma
resketapaboraskiyada kariakayapaapa eskaelellemmaar hilaabbaaabbbaaah hilohboobobooboooo,

;DROTFL oh boy no dey make fun of tongues oh!

darfur:
YES IT HELPS.
b/c i don't speak in tongues. honestly i'm not sure i've ever aspired to speak in tongues. the people who speak in tongues are not encouraging me to aspire to have the gift. their lifestyle doesnt encourage me at all.

those i've met o, not all of them

don't let those people's lifestyle discourage you from aspiring to speak in tongues. If you desire to have it and use it to glorify God, then ask God for the gift.
 Paul encouraged that we should eagerly aspire for spiritual gifts but moreso the greater gift of prophecy.

1Cor 14:5 I would like every one of you to speak in tongues, but I would rather have you prophesy. He who prophesies is greater than one who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the church may be edified
vs18: I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you. But in the church I would rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue.

Eclairs:
can someone explain to me wht speakin in tongues is all about. have been longin to ask this question in ages. Is it about sayin radom unknown words with the believe that you'r bein led by the Holy spirit cz it apz even the speaker most times doesnt know wht he/she is saying

Please, this is a genuine question for clarification. No offence meant whtsoever and so, would appreciate if al contribution to this tread is relevant. Anyone who see this as an opportunity to criticise christianity should clear out. Your opinion is not needed. Once again, no offence meant.

many thanks

I love an honest question.

"Speaking in tongues is the New Testament phenomena where a person or persons speaks in a language that is unknown to him." I quote that from a friend of mine.
Speaking in tongues is meant for the edification of the church as well as for the glorification of God.

Speaking in tongues is a result of when the holyspirit comes upon a person, some people errorneously say it is the result of receiving the holy spirit and that every believer must speak in tongues. But the bible explicitly states that not all have been given the gift of speaking in tongues. So don't question ur faith if you've never spoken in tongues.

There is a lot of misuse and abuse of tongues in churches today. But it is very important to know that tongues must be interpreted when done in a public setting (church) and that no more than 2-3 people must speak in total. Don't look suprised it is stated clearly in the bible. So when you go to churches and everyone is praying in tongues, others no one interprets- that goes against the command we've been given in the bible.

there is no need for interpretation when praying in privacy to God.

Hope this helps!

bawomolo:
this is just a cop out excuse. your faith must be weak if u can't withstand challenges. yall couldn't stand the heat just like the new england patriots .

anyway hooray to senseless topics.

did you say challenges? LOL. . . you call that mess of nonsense topics posted challenges? you must not understand what the word "challenge" means!

4 Play:
I don't think you even believe in what you are writing.

of course I do. Why you dey ask? does it sound too good and too simple to be true to you?
I know the christian faith seldom makes sense to an outsider. . .to the rest of the world it appears to be foolishness but to us it is power!

michelin89:
@ JeSoul

That reason is too elementary and easily tracked down. Look for a stronger one!

I'm not sure I understand what more you're asking for? care to explain?

Gamine:
@Jesoul
i don't believe in what i wrote
so my argument is weak
just trying to see what others thought

oh okay, got you.

Gamine:
Tit 3:9 But avoid foolish questions and genealogies and contentions, and strivings about the Law, for they are unprofitable and vain.
Tit 3:10 After the first and second warning, reject a man of heresy,
Tit 3:11 knowing that he who is such has been perverted, and sins, being self-condemned.
Simple!
BAWOLOMO, take heed!

thank you oh Gamine! many would do well to heed those words.

I'm already mad again today look at the multitude of worthless topics literally taking over the religion forum
What the heck is wrong with these people?!!!

olabowale:
@JeSoul: I don't want to burst your Bubbles; God is the Decision Maker on that day. Everyone else, including Jesus (as), will have to account for their responsibility to God, alone.

4Him:
if only u can just find this portion for me in your koran.

LOL  4Him, we shall not be holding our breath waiting for that verse.

  Olabowale, burst my bubble? lol. . . I have biblical proof of what I say! complete with verse and book and chapter!

Romans 2:16
This will take place on the day when God will judge men's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.
2 Timothy 4:1
In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom

imhotep said "lasting impact", not temporary accomplishments or deeds - there's a big difference btw the two.
do you think the money, fame, philantrophy, philosphy will matter on the last day? No it won't. Only what is done for Christ and in the name of Christ holds value in the sight of God. Everything else is righteousness that is as filthy as rags and utterly worthless in the view of eternity.

you're asking for chicken and goat meat when you haven't learned how to drink milk!

Doesn't matter if imhotep or stimulus supplied you with the answer that's why they haven't, becos you're not ready for it. You haven't yet understood that Jesus came to suffer and die for humankind, yet you want to go into the law and how it relates to the gospel and what purpose it serves

I suggest you rewind and start at the gospel of John. . .stop trying to understand things that are way to complicated for your unsaved mind.

imhotep:
Those who hold this view constitute an insignificant minority that do not make any lasting impact on humanity.

and how comforting that is!

Femi 1:
Well Jesoul i think we need to see each other and believe me i have enough time for this,do you have a yahoo messenher so that we can chat better, you can chat with me on sam_salako2006@yahoo.com.

thanks for the invitation but I think an open discussion here will expose all the inconsistencies and false claims to satisfaction. . . 4Him is already doing a great job poking all kinds of potholes in ur "argument".

chychy:
@ Jesoul
Very insightful of u and helpful 2.

So you all must understand suffering, pain and death only makes sense when you know and understand God and that it is 100% of the time for your own good, and indeed a priviledge as long as you're a christian who is trusting and hoping in Christ.
Philippians 1:29

I'm glad someone benefitted from it my dear sister!

michelin89:
How can evil exist in a world created by a perfect good being who can't create anything that isn't good?

The more you insist evil is an entity of its own, the more you enforce the idea that your god isn't the perfect being. For him to be perfect, there should be nothing like evil.

The answer to your question is very easy michelin and it is found in
Ecclesiastes 7:29 "This only have I found: God made mankind upright, but men have gone in search of many schemes."

God created everything good, everything perfect in its original form
Because of Adam's disobedience in the garden of eden that's when sin entered the world thru man and messed everything up! This should clear up your queries.

Femi 1:
Jesus said in the Bible that "you will know the truth and the truth shall set you free, if you like you call what i post nonsence, on the day of judgement you will be called to account for your deeds and what religuion do you pratice, ?,

oh oh so you sabi quote bible? try take a few extra minutes to re-read the verses you originally posted and the answer to your "question" should become immediately clear.

Because God said in the koran 3v85" And whoever seeks a religion other than the great religion, it will never be accepted of him. and in the hereafter he will be one of the losers. so as to say if you are a christian,pagan,jedaism, etc. you all will be of the losers. Jesus you christians claim that you follow was a a great one befor he died so as all the prophet sent by God also are great ones.

erhmm correction,
the god of the koran is not God. Just wanted to point that out  . And since he is not the true God, nuthin he said should be taken seriously.

LOL. . . are those images supposed to somehow annoy or inflame me? if that was the intent you failed yet again, miserably!

and abeg if you're not signing the petition make you carry go!

unreasonable no, it's very much the human response. I totally get what you mean, sometimes when you're in a bad mood, people smiling and being happy can be annoying. I do feel that way sometimes.

BUT

that smiling christian does have the answer! for us christians we don't worry about life, money, whatever why? not becos we're all rich and have it all together and have no problems, no. But becos we're trusting God to supply our needs and His peace which passes all natural understanding is what keeps us smiling like we won the lottery.

Philippians 4:7
And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus

John 14:27
Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.

next time you see that christian, return the smile, I guarantee you'll feel better than frowning!

debosky:
In order not to derail this thread, I shall suspend my wooing of JeSoul till a suitable location is found

Can you imagine someone debating whether there were 12 disciples of Jesus or not? One of our 'musulumi' brothers attempted to do so a few weeks back. . .all for the sake of 'disgracing' Christianity.
NO to senseless topics, If you want to have a useful debate please state facts that can be comprehended by rational members. . .

not Twaddleous comments with no iota of intelligence

abi o! and just again today look at the barage of rubbish posted as topics! It is really getting annoying now. . .
We can't even see the credible threads cos they're being drowned out by the abundance of nonsense.

Alphazee I mean Therationa or is it Femi 1?

what kind of nonsensical post is this?  it makes absolutely no sense!

Abeg reasonable nairalanders this is why I said we must fight against senseless topics overtaking our religion forum! I think Seun ought to make common sense a prerequisite before anyone can post on nairaland.

bawomolo:
i see some people can't handle the heat.

which kin heat? you guys start frivolous topics under the guise of "discussion" and then take off as soon as people demolish your leaky arguments with biblical fortutide! what we need are honest seekers to meet with honest answerers. We're tired of these threads solely aimed at demonizing christianity, funny thing is they all fail miserably!

Wordsmith:
heat ko, ina ni. . .

my sentiments exactly!

4Him:
which "heat"? Rather many can no longer stand your prevarications, deliberate misrepresentation and unsubstantiated twaddle.

my favorite word in that sentence is[b] twaddle[/b]!

debosky:
I sign on one condition JeSoul accepts to have a date with me

But seriously, enough of people making arguments/statements without fact. Let rational discourse return to the religion section.

I'm flattered and I'm blushing sweetie!!!
but big amen to rational discourse returning to the religion section.

doyin13:
Hehehehehe. . .So na here you pursue them reach. . . .

Nothing do you abeg. . .jaiye ori e

@Jesoul- - - -better date him o. . .he is pathetic enough to don the Patriots jersey, visit Fenway. Be warned though
he might think Celtic pertains to the Celtic fringe of the British Isles

Doyin my dear Doyin, you already know I most certainly would not use "pathetic" to describe anyone inclined towards my patriots and redsox and celtics etc. . . and if Debosky is such a man, he's already scored major points!

darkey:
i think she has retired from the debate,

sister Gamine say it ain't so?
Debosky said you must have a different definition of "feel"? I am very much intrested in hearing it. . .