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LagosShia:
please can you tell us which version you're quoting?and besides isn't laughable to say the least for God in the bible to kill anyone because they were mocking someone's baldness?  

living bible.
They were not children, but rascal young youth

Living bible
2 Kings 2:23
23 From Jericho he went to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, a gang of young men from the city began mocking and making fun of him because of his bald head.

Amplified bible.
2 Kings 2:23
23 He went up from Jericho to Bethel. On the way, young [maturing and accountable] boys came out of the city and mocked him and said to him, Go up [in a whirlwind], you baldhead! Go up, you baldhead!


Amplified commentary

2Ki 2:23 a This incident has long been misunderstood because the Hebrew word "naar" was translated "little boys." That these characteristic juvenile delinquents were old enough to be fully accountable is obvious from the use of the word elsewhere. For example, it was used by David of his son Solomon and translated "young and inexperienced," when Solomon was a father (I Chron. 22:5; cf. I Kings 14:21 and II Chron. 9:30 ). It was used of Joseph when he was seventeen (Gen. 37:2). In fact, not less than seventy times in the King James Version this word "naar" is translated "young man" or "young men."

Wonderful message . Whatever controls a mans tongue controls his entire life

pDude:
Well spoken all.

I never rolled on the floor or screamed nor jerked and thrashed about when asking my dad for anything. How much more my heavenly who cares about me above all?

The place in the bible where there was a lot of activity was when the prophets of baal, in a bid to sacrifice to their god, started jumping up and down and slashing their bodies.

Stop the activities, God aint deaf

Youre getting it wrong. There are different kinds of prayers for different purposes. When you're praying a out personal matters. You offer with thanksgiving etc. But when you're making intercession for others , you give it what it takes depending on the situation. Sometimes without food. Postrate , rolling on the floor it depends. It's a demonstration of passion. Even Jesus roll on the ground small .

Mark 14:34-35
34 And saith unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful unto death: tarry ye here, and watch. 35 And he went forward a little, and fell on the ground, and prayed . .

Yes , religion is a problem. Embracing the life in christ is solution.

God had given us freewill. Even though he has a destiny for us. We has a choice to obe or not. The will of God does not come to pass authomatically .

All these mockery and attacks on leaders of other faith and their  religions should stop. We get nowhere by these. Except provocations on one another emotions.

Froebel and other attackers should take note. Jesus didn't send us to attack other Faiths. what Christians should do is to preach the gospel. You won't find anywhere where the apostle attacked others for their beliefs. You can never in a man to christ by these wars. You only draw fire to yourself and the gospel in retaliation. One of the rules in evangelism

DO NOT ATTACK OTHER FAITHS OR RELIGION.
DO NOT ATTACK RELIGIOUS LEADERS
DONT ENTER INTO UNNECESSARY ARGUMENT.
BE A GOOD LISTENER.

There are good arguments though . You talk I listen. I talk you listen .let truth prevail. But when we allow our flesh to get in the way. We are only left with ego. You can't win people with fight ,insult and ridicule . A minister must control, his emotion. The gospel can only be communicated by love.

2 Timothy 2:24-26
24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

Let's take example from the apostles. They had encounter with other faiths too. But had results by wisdom . A good example is Paul experience at Athens . When he saw the whole city worshipping idols. So tey, they even have one I dol they couldn't give name to, they called it "THE UNKNOWN GOD"

Acts 17:16
16 Now while Paul waited for them at Athens, his spirit was stirred in him, when he saw the city wholly given to idolatry. . 22 Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars'hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious. 23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN God. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you. 24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; 25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;

HE GOT RESULT

. . . 33 So Paul departed from among them. 34 Howbeit certain men clave unto him, and believed: among the which was Dionysius the Areopagite, and a woman named Damaris, and others with them.

when we strife in the name of God, He is not in it. It is worldly wisdom.

James 3:14-18
14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. 15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. 16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. 17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. 18 And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.

They were not children, but rascal young youth

2 Kings 2:23
23 From Jericho he went to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, a [b]gang of young men [/b]from the city began mocking and making fun of him because of his bald head.

It has to be looked into. How can system be changing bible? For example if you quote a verse that says "prost-itute" It will change it. Let me quote one and see what comes out.

Leviticus 19:29
29 Do not LovePeddler thy daughter, to cause her to be a LovePeddler; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness.


You see it has changed the translation. It's no longer king James but king Nairaland translation. .

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I can see you finally had your way round it by dumping king James . A S S which Nairaland turned to bottom and using donkey.

sarmy:
Is every passage in the bible 100% spoken word of God

No

Is there some verses not 100% word of God

Yes

Why can't our church leaders & most xtains keep all the intructions in the bible if they are 100% word of God

The more a man walks with Gods spirit ,the more the character of God is manifested in him. Besides Christianity is not about following instructions. It's by receiving a new nature and allowing that new life to flow through you.

If some verses of the bible are not 100% word of God, how do we differenciate them, why are some xtains equating bible as God

The bible contains several messages for several people.Jews ,Gentiles and  Some for christian . It is not every message in the bible that is Word of God to us Christians. "an eye for an eye" was for the Jews. And certainly not for us.

Gods word to us today are things that has to do with Gods plan and pursope for us in christ.

Can we proof that every single verse of the bible is direct word of God.

The bible itself was compiled by men. God inspired men to write books. Other people compiled these books which were in scrolls into one book called the bible. Originally the old testament books were the scriptures. But church fathers added the teachings of christ and the apostles to it also for our benefit.

Image123:
i hope the bolded is a mistake?

Yes it was a mistake thanks sir.

davidylan:
"Evangelist Jesus Christ is among the most exciting and respected ministers in Jerusalem today. Also a highly successful entrepreneurial carpenter from Nazareth, he has pioneered a highly successful school of discipleship and has traveled the world to perform stupendous miracles and propound theological exegesis. He is the author of the bestsellers Sermon on the Mount; Parable of the Sower; and our Lord’s Prayer! In addition, he has performed several chart-topping miracles, including feeding 5000, raising the dead, extracting money from the mouth of a fish, walking on water and healing the sick. His weekly temple program, Father’s work, appears at the main temple in Jerusalem with several satellite programs in Nazareth, Capernaum, Samaria and. Evangelist Christ is the founder and pastor of christianity, one of the fastest-growing faiths in the world, where he pastors an interracial congregation of more than 1 billion members."

So what's the point of this mockery?

2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

Have you ever wondered why billboards that supposedly advertise christian programs have the largest space reserved for the face of the "host pastor"?

It's common sense in advertising. Ask experts. What would you rather prefer?

Have you wondered why so-called "ministers" of God now have PA's, booking officers,

It's common sense. What's your own. A man with many appointments need to organise himself. So that appointments don't clash.

Have you wondered why so-called "ministers" of God now have iPad/iPhone apps,

What on earth! Are they not meant for human beings.  . What do you want them to use? Slate?

Have you wondered why so-called "ministers" of God now have flashy websites that describes them more than the message they claim to be spreading?

What is wrong with the "flashy" should they pay money to get a dull looking website ?

Ever wondered why every single minister today has written a book that they plug far more than the bible itself?

Are they bible printers. What is wrong in a man circulating his book. Didn't Paul circulate his messages. Why didn't he circulate the scriptures rather. Na wa for religious men o.

Ever wondered why the "info" section for facebook ministers is a disgusting tome on how important they think they are?

What is your own ? At least they are doing something.Focus on your own assignment.

1 Peter 4:15
15 But let none of you suffer as a. . busybody in other men's matters.

Indeed we are in the last days.

That's the more reason you should rather focus on the great commission instead of criticising others.

seyibrown:
How about Joseph and Daniel? Has your understanding increased on the matter of dream interpretation?

These were heathen kings who have no access to God. A christian has the holyspirit. The spirit of God has been poured on all flesh. If God is God enough to give you a dream, he's Gid enough to give the interpretation If there's any . You won't find anyone interpreting dream for another.

Orikinla:
So you go to Church, pretending to be a Christian, yet you do EVIL. How can an evil doer be a Christian? If you don't repent, you shall perish! You are cursed and judged by your own evil deeds.

This sounds like froebel gospel

HisRib:
Hello Everyone,

First and foremost I would like to greet everyone. I hope you are all having a peaceful week, by the Grace of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

I have been going through some tough times. I am looking for a powerful prophet of God. Does anyone on here happen to know one?

I really need revelations regarding my life, especially on marriage.

If you do please let me know and I will give you my email address. If you happen to be a Prophet of God please feel free to message me or write on here and I will be glad to forward you my email.

I hope you all have a wonderful day!

Don't you have a pastor? I will advice you go to him. And if you don't have a church or a pastor , you can reach me by mail . It's a small matter.

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Sin is not a christian problem anymore. Ignorance is the biggest problem of christian. If you know who you are as Gods righteousned and let the words of christ dwell in you. Sin can't have dominion over you. It is nit the condemnation of sin that frees a man but rather the understanding of righteousness.

folarin22:
You're true Christian, right?You believe in Christianity? Then provide answers to this questions below.

"If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them." (Leviticus 20:13)

"For everyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother. His blood shall be upon him." (Leviticus 20:9)

"Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property." (Leviticus 25:44-45)

For a supposedly purely good God, these teachings don't sound very moral or ethical. In fact, they actually sound very cruel and discriminatory. Should such a cruel God be worthy of worship?

The scriptures you quoted is not for Christians . It was for Jews. Christians don't kill. We practice forgiveness. Does that answer your question?

Ofido:
What do you think wil happen if satan approved God to ask for forgiveness, having repented of all his wrong doings. Went back to God and said Father i am sorry forgive me.
What do you think God wil do and how wil the world turn out to be?

Jst saw this some wher and have been thinkin about it since morning.

If Satan repents , God will forgive him. But their are 2 problems. Satan like other angels are not created in the image of God like us. They dont have ability to repent. Secondly Satan is personally proud. He can't repent. He is still mobilising his army for the great battle of Gog and Magog. And Armageddon . He still believes he will defeat God one day. He Looks down on Gods authority. So he cant even think of failing his followers by repenting.

You are part of the problem. Making mockery daily .

Sam xiu lee:
@toba that was a brilliant explanation for the poster,the bible is a book about humans,so you are to find all human activities in it .

Yes, it contains words which reveal humanity and frailties of individuals. But at the same time . That psalm is a messianic  psalm. Major part of it refers to judas who betrayed Jesus.

Acts 1:16-20
16 Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus. . . 20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.

You are right.

It doesnt belong to the man. It's Gods tithe.

I have a small helicopter which can fly by remote control. That's scientific levitation.

sarmy:
There are some passages in Paul's epistles where he specifically stated what he said was personal opinion not direct instruction from God

So there could be hundreds of such in the bible, written based on the writers perspective at that point in time, some were written based on 3rd party narrations of events, do we consider all of them as direct word of God.

You are right. There are places where paul wrote as directed of God , there are places where he gave personal opinion. And he was humble enough to say these are not christ words but his own opinion.

I'm rather worried for you who has no shepherd. . I think you should be more concerned about that.

They are reported speech.I understand your point. But one should not take it for granted and start acting on every words written. For example Solomon wrote some things in his backsliden state which are inconsistent with truth. Someone my read such and act on them as the word of God. That's why it has to be clear . Who said what.

Lets be careful of jugdementalism . Even though I don't approve of such utterances. But there is truth in the principles behind it. There are individuals who have been afflicted by certain demon spirits and by their destructive work they cause the individuals to have trouble in relationship. Some never get to have people will to marry them, imagine a lady pretty and having everything working financially but no man seem attracted . There is such demonic attack.

Same thing goes for some men. But one should not think every case is like that. My point is that such thing do exist.

When I type Frosbel with an apple device it used to come out as "Froebel"

Even apple dey reject his name .

I'm a prophet .

@Mabel

mabell:
@froebel
I don't think joagbaje is wrong
Not every word in the bible is spoken of God, some are documentations
For example, when Satan spoke, was it the voice of God or are you now saying God speaks through Satan?
When demons speak, they are only documented but they are not Gods word
It's common knowledge frosbel
Even animals spoke in the bible days

Mabel are you using an iPad?

Azibalua:
Numbers 22:28-30
28 And the Lord opened the mouth of the [b]Bottom, .[/b]

Who is talking here?

Bottom .  =A S S. (donkey)  Na wah for Nairaland . The thing is changing ypthe words of the bible. A S S (donkey) is changed to bottom!