Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Matthew Ashimolowo Speaks On T.b Joshua by Joagbaje(m): 4:14pm On Jun 16, 2010 |
NuclearBoy, nuclearboy: @ Bolded:
Magical-like experiences!
Where is the Salvation experience? You dont have the right to discredit another man's salvation. There are different callings. You know a christian by what he profess. If a man confess Jesus as his lord and master who are you to say he is unsaved. Have you found out how RCCG was founded? are you aware it was an offshoot of C&S white garment. Maybe you should study on it. 1 Cor. 12:3 no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Matthew Ashimolowo Speaks On T.b Joshua by Joagbaje(m): 7:18am On Jun 16, 2010 |
maedan: So what is the essence of this autobiography and what exactly does it show/prove? I was not writing autobiography, I only quoted what he said about his Christian experience , Since they claim he never had any. Ok let me cut some Unneccesary part off. " I was brought up from a Christian home. My father’s name is Kolawole Balogun. He was a Christian. He was a farmer who was also the secretary to St. Steven’s church in our village. When the white people came to our village, he served as a translator. He was translating English into Yoruba. He was an educated man. He lived with the white people as well as serving as church secretary. I cannot say much about my father because he died when I was a small boy. I know that he loved me a lot. I was his pet. I was the one who suffered most from the effect of his death. Being the last born, anywhere he is going, he would take me along. He would carry me to the church. As a little boy, I would be running inside the church. I would jump from the choir to the catechist’s table. Some people used to rumour that my father was a Muslim. I don’t know where they got that from. My father was a Christian and I am a Christian. When I was very small, I could recall him taking me to church regularly. As a kid attending primary school, my dad would make me to stay after school with a Catholic priest whose house was at the back of the church. I did all the normal things kids do, like running around and playing football.
When my father died, my mum’s brother who became the father figure to me was a Muslim. That does not make me a Muslim. I was brought up in a Christian home. And right from childhood, I was passionate about the Bible. Right from primary school, I was well versed in Bible knowledge. It was my favourite subject and I excelled in it. As a primary six kid, I read the New Testament twice. In my secondary school days, I finished reading the Bible on the average of two months.
Every two months, I would have read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation. It was the only subject that I believed so much in. It was as if Bible was the only subject that interested me in primary and secondary schools. In exams, I scored 99 percent consistently whereas I performed woefully in other subjects. My excelling in Bible knowledge affected the other subjects where I performed poorly. At school, I was the leader of the Scripture Union.
Even though I was second in primary school, I didn’t find it easy getting admitted into secondary school. As luck would have it, I got late admission into Muslim College. In that Muslim College, we were restricted from carrying the Bible openly. To read the Bible, we would have to hide under the mango tree or backyard and the Muslim community would begin to chase us. We were all 20 in number then. Like the early Christians, we would read the Bible in secrecy because they never allowed us to do it openly. I was the leader of the Christian team in the school, at Ansar-Ud-deen Grammar School, Ikare. And because of the pressure, I couldn’t finish a year in that school. It was obvious I couldn’t fit into this dominantly Muslim setting. So I left the school. I left because my life was in danger. I could sense that since I was doing this thing secretly, one day something could happen to me. To avoid that I had to leave. From Ikare, I came to Lagos.
Based on the hostility and the religious intolerance at Ansar-Ud-Deen Grammar School, I decided to leave Ikare for Lagos.
‘I confronted a mad man at school’ My first attempt at discovering God’s spirit in me was when a mad man came to my school. In those days, I used to be called Small Pastor. One morning a madman came to our school with a cutlass and everybody was running helter-skelter. The teachers all fled and the classroom was empty. I came and saw this mad person. The spirit of God spoke to my heart, not to my ear. I hear the voice of God in my heart and not in my ears. I heard the voice of God telling me: “Go there and collect the cutlass. Just tell the madman to bring the cutlass.” When I was moving towards the madman, everybody was concerned for my safety. They were saying something like: ‘This is boy, he wants to die.’ I just went to the madman and commanded him: “Give me this cutlass, in the name of Jesus.” The madman gave me the cutlass. I collected it and gave it to a teacher. It was from there they started calling me Small Pastor.
From there, they would call me in the assembly and ask me to pray for them. Every time I would pray for them. If they want to play football, I would pray for them. They began to come to me individually for prayers. It was pray for me, pray for me, pray for me all the way. They asked me how I was able to overcome the madman and I told them I was surprised myself to see what happened. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Matthew Ashimolowo Speaks On T.b Joshua by Joagbaje(m): 6:32am On Jun 16, 2010 |
maedan: Wow. He has no "testimony"> that's really deep. Some of the points raised actually make sense. How, when and where was he saved, who was his pastor/ spiritual leader? Even if he was a pagan(and he claims he was born a Christian, so that's out), there must be some background somewhere. In any case one day the truth will out, as they say.I haven't find any reason to believe he is not a man of God yet. I think we should hear TB Joshua testimony of his salvation and not what soft sell magazines claim . This is an article of his I found of his conversion and calling.
I was brought up from a Christian home. My father’s name is Kolawole Balogun. He was a Christian. He was a farmer who was also the secretary to St. Steven’s church in our village. When the white people came to our village, he served as a translator. He was translating English into Yoruba. He was an educated man. He lived with the white people as well as serving as church secretary. I cannot say much about my father because he died when I was a small boy. I know that he loved me a lot. I was his pet. I was the one who suffered most from the effect of his death. Being the last born, anywhere he is going, he would take me along. He would carry me to the church. As a little boy, I would be running inside the church. I would jump from the choir to the catechist’s table.
Some people used to rumour that my father was a Muslim. I don’t know where they got that from. My father was a Christian and I am a Christian. When I was very small, I could recall him taking me to church regularly. As a kid attending primary school, my dad would make me to stay after school with a Catholic priest whose house was at the back of the church. I did all the normal things kids do, like running around and playing football.
When my father died, my mum’s brother who became the father figure to me was a Muslim. That does not make me a Muslim. I was brought up in a Christian home. And right from childhood, I was passionate about the Bible. Right from primary school, I was well versed in Bible knowledge. It was my favourite subject and I excelled in it. As a primary six kid, I read the New Testament twice. In my secondary school days, I finished reading the Bible on the average of two months.
Every two months, I would have read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation. It was the only subject that I believed so much in. It was as if Bible was the only subject that interested me in primary and secondary schools. In exams, I scored 99 percent consistently whereas I performed woefully in other subjects. My excelling in Bible knowledge affected the other subjects where I performed poorly. At school, I was the leader of the Scripture Union.
Even though I was second in primary school, I didn’t find it easy getting admitted into secondary school. As luck would have it, I got late admission into Muslim College. In that Muslim College, we were restricted from carrying the Bible openly. To read the Bible, we would have to hide under the mango tree or backyard and the Muslim community would begin to chase us. We were all 20 in number then. Like the early Christians, we would read the Bible in secrecy because they never allowed us to do it openly. I was the leader of the Christian team in the school, at Ansar-Ud-deen Grammar School, Ikare. And because of the pressure, I couldn’t finish a year in that school. It was obvious I couldn’t fit into this dominantly Muslim setting. So I left the school. I left because my life was in danger. I could sense that since I was doing this thing secretly, one day something could happen to me. To avoid that I had to leave. From Ikare, I came to Lagos.
Based on the hostility and the religious intolerance at Ansar-Ud-Deen Grammar School, I decided to leave Ikare for Lagos. I met some people who used to carry cassava from the village to places like Ibadan and Lagos. I approached them and explained my predicament to them. They would spend four days on the road transporting the cassava to Lagos on the trailer. The trailer would be loaded with stuff like cassava and cocoa while the owners would sleep on top. I decided to join them. I did not tell my parent I was going to Lagos. I stayed inside the vehicle for four days before getting to Ibadan. From Ibadan we landed in Mile 12 in Lagos. They dropped me there and told me: “This is where we can carry you.”
For five days, I was in Mile 12. It was during the rainy season. The job I was doing was washing the feet of people coming out of the muddy market. I would wash feet and be paid little money with which I fed. I was washing feet until one day I heard two women conversing in my native dialect. I interrupted their conversation and asked if they were from Arigidi, my hometown, and they said yes. I told them I was in Lagos to trace my sister whose whereabouts I don’t know. Luckily, I was able to trace my sister to Egbe area of Lagos. After 10 days, I traced her and started to live with her. That is how I started my life. Today, I have an NGO for motor park boys, because I have also been one myself.
I realized my sister had her own family and I should not be burden to her. I do not like inconveniencing people. If I visit your house and you give me a bottle of soft drinks, I would make sure I put something in the envelope, because I believe we make a living by what we give and we make a life by what we receive. This is what I believe in. In life, you don’t just have to collect and collect. It destroys one’s life. You have to give and give. Because the Bible says, you must see giving as an assignment from God.
‘I carried shit to make a living’ I left my sister to live with a friend. From there, I got a job as a poultry farm attendant. The poultry is still there now. Not long ago, I traced the poultry to somewhere in Ikotun. The job they gave me is to carry shit. Fowl shit. And fowl shit smell is more terrible than human faeces. I was doing this job with many Ghanaians. There were so many Ghanaians in Nigeria then. I was the only Nigerian in that poultry farm. And I never let people know I was a Nigerian. I declared myself a Ghanaian too, because nobody would believe a Nigerian would do that kind of job. I did the job for three days and my body odour changed. When I’m moving about, people would perceive odour and flies would be hovering around me because I was smelling very badly. There was no amount of soap I would bath that would remove this odour from my body. As you are working in the poultry farm, the fowl shit would be dropping on your head. I did this for one good year.
At the same time, I enrolled in an evening school. New State High School is the name of the school. I attended many schools in Lagos. I would attend one school for two months, only to be sent away because of school fees. I attended New State High School, Ansar-Ud-Deen Grammar School, Isolo, and another school called Metropolitan. Because I was very good in athletics, I was given what looked like scholarship. I won gold, silver and bronze in athletics. But I needed to work to support myself at school. That was why I took the poultry job. I was using it to pay my school fees. In those days, evening schools were like full, normal schools. You could easily attend evening school to do your WAEC and GCE. We even received better lessons in the evening than in the day school in those days. I was sending myself to school and at the same time teaching children Bible studies.
My athletics took me to Baptist Academy. When I was running they picked me. Under one year, I attended 15 schools here in Lagos. And I did not finish one year. I don’t remember the year, because I cannot keep records. But it’s all in the documentary on my life. I was born 1963. At least, I remember that one.
‘I confronted a mad man at school’ My first attempt at discovering God’s spirit in me was when a mad man came to my school. In those days, I used to be called Small Pastor. One morning a madman came to our school with a cutlass and everybody was running helter-skelter. The teachers all fled and the classroom was empty. I came and saw this mad person. The spirit of God spoke to my heart, not to my ear. I hear the voice of God in my heart and not in my ears. I heard the voice of God telling me: “Go there and collect the cutlass. Just tell the madman to bring the cutlass.” When I was moving towards the madman, everybody was concerned for my safety. They were saying something like: ‘This is boy, he wants to die.’ I just went to the madman and commanded him: “Give me this cutlass, in the name of Jesus.” The madman gave me the cutlass. I collected it and gave it to a teacher. It was from there they started calling me Small Pastor.
From there, they would call me in the assembly and ask me to pray for them. Every time I would pray for them. If they want to play football, I would pray for them. They began to come to me individually for prayers. It was pray for me, pray for me, pray for me all the way. They asked me how I was able to overcome the madman and I told them I was surprised myself to see what happened.
You see, God Almighty is awesome. He can use any medium to express Himself. He can use sand, water, stone, rod, he can use anything. When Moses was asking God, what should he do, God asked him: “What is in your hand?” He said rod. Then God said: “Use it to divide the sea.” Or are you talking about Paul and Silas in the prison yard? They were there and they never said: Hey, in the name of Jesus, in the name of Jesus, in the name of Jesus. They just sang praises to God. The used the medium of sound. Or are you talking of Joshua. He said to his people to just shout Alleluia and the walls of Jericho fell. God uses any medium to express Himself.
The ministry started from St. Stevens Primary School where I collected the cutlass from the madman and where I started leading the Scriptures Union, teaching the Bible and everything. This is where the awareness of God’s presence in me started. It continued. Everything big starts little. If everything big starts big, it calls for concern.
I was in Bahamas with the President of Bahamas, very close to Florida when my mother died. This is the picture. I was with him when they called me. Synagogue had already come into being. I was with him when they said my mother was a bit down, that they brought her from the village. They said my mother wanted to see me and have a word with me. Before I came back home, my mummy was gone. My mummy was late. It was too late for me. That was how I missed my mum.
She was a wonderful mother. The only little problem I had with my mum is that she wanted to see everybody succeed in life. I used to tell my mum: success is a two-sided affair. I have a role to play, God has His own role. It is not all up to God and certainly it’s all not up to me. Success is a kind of partnership between man and God. I cannot define failure, because I don’t believe in failure. There is no failure in my book. All I see is success, directed by the spirit of God. But as human beings, we cannot be perfect. Perfection eludes every human being. God is perfection.
‘I spent 15 months in my mother’s womb’ Back to my early beginnings, I was the last born of the family. When I was born a lot of strange things happened. Seven days after I was born, I was told that I was put on a mat and a big stone nearly crushed me but miraculously I escaped. How did it happen? White people used to come to do borehole in our village. And in our village, it’s all stone under. When they are drilling, they would be hitting stone and stones would be flying out dangerously. Before any drilling, they would publicly announce that everybody must stay at home to avoid the danger of being hit by a flying stone. The stone used to fly because of the nature of the machine they use. It was on the seventh day when they wanted to name me that they put me on the mat and a big stone flew from where they were drilling, pierced the roof where people were celebrating and landed where I was placed. But it missed me, narrowly. The stone is still being kept till now. Nobody has ever heard this story from me. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pay Debt Or Pay Tithe by Joagbaje(m): 7:28am On Jun 15, 2010 |
femmy2010: All you have at the moment is N10k and would not have any other funding till about after a months from now. You owe an overdue debt of N9,000k and your equally overdue tithe payable is exactly N9,000k. Which would you pay if you were to be in this shoe and having in mind that the creditor remains very much on your neck and has promised hell on earth if you do not pay him within the next 3 days and your investigation into your fortune dry up revealed that things were getting worse because you refused to pay your tithe in the past. What would you do? Concerning your bill. It is a thing of faith . If your faith carries paying the tithe first , go ahead but if not pay your bill .God is not angry with you .You should learn to be paying your tithe first thing before other expenditures to avoid being in such tight situation. But if your tithes have pilled up , You Don't have to be under such bondage. Just start from next one and move on. Tithing is Gods form of financial security for us .Talk with your pastor. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Adam Bisexual Or Not? by Joagbaje(m): 7:04am On Jun 15, 2010 |
one of the issues that generated the idea tha Adam was male and female was the fact chapter 1 of genesis refers to 2 as Adam
Genesis 1:27 27 So God created man in his[ own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
It seems God finally separated the woman from the man later in chapter 2.
Genesis 2:18 18 And the God said,[ It is] not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Adam Bisexual Or Not? by Joagbaje(m): 3:16pm On Jun 14, 2010 |
Many bible schollars believe that Eve was in Adam. 2 in one. And that they finally separated as two individuals when God brought Eve out. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Take Heed That You Do Not Your Alms Before Men, To Be Seen Of Them by Joagbaje(m): 2:48pm On Jun 14, 2010 |
akaazua: For example a particular church delights in making the whole world know whenever they give any gift to an individual. this is done by televising it so the whole world will see and glorify the church and the preacher. If the poor receives rice, Clothes, money and help of any kind, the so called good deed will be voiced abroad for everybody to hear and see. Is this not hypocrisy? Are we not stealing God's glory by such act? What is the reason for this ugly practice that makes men receive the glory that should be given to God alone? The bible is not against public giving. Jesus didnt condemn public giving . what matter is the motive. but you are not in the place of God to judge the motive of another man. As a giver I get inspired to give more when i see a reckless giver. This may have been the intention of that pastor, to inspire others. But if he did it to praise himself. He has lost the blessing already but it is not our place to judge such. it is between him and God |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is 666 Real? by Joagbaje(m): 6:55pm On Jun 12, 2010 |
Revelation 13:15-18 15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number[ is] Six hundred threescore[ and] six.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Increase Your Tithe Offering In Your Congregation by Joagbaje(m): 3:58pm On Jun 12, 2010 |
Noo thanks. It's nuclear oshob that needs it . |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Name Of Jesus Christ Carries Power, Authority And Distinction by Joagbaje(m): 12:06pm On Jun 12, 2010 |
The power of the name of Jesus is not in the sound of the name or the contruction of the five letter word. But rather the revelation you have of the power and authority the NAme commands |
Christianity Etc › Re: Join Pastor Chris In This Month Of Prayer by Joagbaje(m): 11:59am On Jun 12, 2010 |
How do I follow on Twitter. It rained and our reception of the broadcast was freezing or cutting off. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Celestial Church of Christ: Your Experience And Opinion by Joagbaje(m): 11:56am On Jun 12, 2010 |
God is not in denominations . He won't ask cele's to line up one side in heaven. Forget this last ship idea. It is unsriptural. If there's any last ship at all , it will be a message , a truth , a revelation , but not a denomination. There are imperfect people in each church. The truth of the gospel is what will cleanse the world. |
Christianity Etc › Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by Joagbaje(m): 11:48am On Jun 12, 2010 |
babaearly: @Joagbaje
i want to ask you, who is lucifer? I'm sure you know the answer already. He is the god of the world system. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bishop Oyedepo Fires Back At Erelu Agbaye, Says Allegation Of Occultism Amounts by Joagbaje(m): 11:41am On Jun 12, 2010 |
“Not even the regularly televised attacks on his person and work from co-preachers like Pastor Tunde Bakare of The Latter Rain Assembly, Lagos, and Pastor Chris Oyakhilome of the Christ Embassy in about two decades of the ministry’s relocation to Lagos had moved him into making a direct pronouncement,” a source close to the clergy wondered. “Only recently, Pastor Bakare literally tore one of his books apart during one of his sermons on the television. But his stand for more than two decades had been never to reply to such accusations or castigations.” The highlighted part is a false statement. Pastor Chris will never criticise another minister of God. He knows the spirit of God too much not to do that. That is why he doesn't respond to the attacks from other ministers. In his words " these are men that have people following them. I will not want to say something that will affect their members that believe in them" |
Christianity Etc › Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by Joagbaje(m): 4:16pm On Jun 11, 2010 |
nuclearboy: Meanwhile,
Ogajim says above that "the devil remains the god of this world". Do you realise you are claiming Joagbaje and Oyakilome's title for satan seeing as "they are god" ?
Or maybe what the truth is, is that they actually ARE satan!  I said before ." I am a principality" don't let me swallow you . |
Christianity Etc › Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by Joagbaje(m): 3:48pm On Jun 11, 2010 |
aletheia: Why don't you ask him yourself? [size=16pt] HE IS A WOFFER FOR REAL BABY!!.[/size] |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Know That Adam And Eve Would Sin Before Creating Them? by Joagbaje(m): 2:41pm On Jun 11, 2010 |
Questions like these should be avoided. If God chose to relate to us wearing agbada, we should not be asking if he wears pant or how he looks if the agbada is off.So if God relates to us as though he didn't have fore knowledge of their fall , we should not be probing into such.
Deuteronomy 29:29 29 The secret[ things belong] unto the our God: but those[ things which are] revealed[ belong] unto us and to our children for ever, that[ we] may do all the words of this law.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Detailed Text Of Last Communion Service With Pastor Chris by Joagbaje(m): 2:32pm On Jun 11, 2010 |
maddock: @ nuclearboy Please can you kindly allow me have some peace with my post. If you disagree with what i posted above, simply do one of these two like the other poster said "take a long walk away from it" or open another topic to air what you believe,ok. I dont mean it as an offence and do hope you dont take it as one. certainly he will have nothing to say. Because critics only attack and have noffin to contribute . |
Christianity Etc › Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by Joagbaje(m): 2:05pm On Jun 11, 2010 |
hahaha so dis biometric dude that goes about downloading pics of d oyedepos and oyakhilomes as freemasons, is an adventist dude!!![/quote ]
I had said earlier , anyone who goes out lashing at mInisters of the gospel like this will Always have hidden agenda |
Christianity Etc › Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by Joagbaje(m): 2:00pm On Jun 11, 2010 |
aletheia: The Sabbath of the New Covenant
This tract is being written because we as Christians are living in a very peculiar time. In these last days prior to the return of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, there is such confusion among so many well meaning and Christian-minded people, and one great point of confusion and contention is regarding the Sabbath.
I have personally been confronted by people who condemned me and my ministry because I did not keep the Sabbath the way they were trying to keep it. There is extremism in any belief system, and that extremism occurs when proponents of a belief system do not accept the whole council of God. In this tract, we will look at the whole council of God on the subject of the Sabbath, which will bring forth a clear understanding of what it is and how it must be kept.
We will now go back to the origin of the Sabbath at the time of the creation as told at the beginning of the book of Genesis. In Genesis 2:1-3 we read, "Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made."
One thing that should be immediately noticed is that all of the preceding six days end with the following words, "And the evening and the morning were the (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, or 6th) day." We do not find these words of finality or summation ending the seventh day, because in a perfect world, everyday thereafter would be a condition of Sabbath or rest and repose. That day was open-ended! Only sin could take away that condition of Sabbath or rest that was meant for everyday, and sadly, that is exactly what happened. Later, we will see how our Lord Jesus restored the perpetual and continual Sabbath to our souls.
The first time we see the word "Sabbath" is in the book of Exodus, and in Exodus 20:8-11, we find that it is given as one of the Ten Commandments as follows: "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it."
One primary point that must be noted regarding the Sabbath commandment is that it has nothing to do with going to church! It has only to do with the cessation from work. Nothing more and nothing less. Sinful man was ordered to do nothing on the seventh day. Thus, one day each week he would not be out there committing sin after sin after sin. It was a "do nothing" day, established as such until the Savior would come to give us victory over sin every day of the week and establish rest for our souls by his spirit dwelling within. This could be made possible only through a New Covenant established by the blood of the Lamb of God!
The Old Testament is replete with examples of Sabbath commandments, but in every example, it is under the Old Covenant of a single day of rest, which by the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ has given way to a Sabbath, where every day is one where we cease from our old works. The Old Covenant, according to Hebrews 8:13, is no more! It reads as follows: "In that he saith, a New Covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away."
In Galatians 3:24-25, we are exhorted "Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are NO LONGER UNDER THE SCHOOLMASTER." Thus, the law could lead us to Christ but no further! Those who think that they are keeping the Sabbath as a day must remember that James 2:10 says, "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." The only one who has ever kept the Sabbath perfectly is Jesus Christ. Man cannot do what He did in keeping the law. The Lord Jesus took the law to Calvary as well as the sin of the world. It was there that the law and all transgressions met, and He bore the sin of many. See Isaiah 53.
Is there a Sabbath after Calvary? Yes! Hebrews 4:9-10 says, "There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his." There are two words not found in those verses, "Sabbath" and "day." It is because our rest is no longer a calendar day each week, but every day, which includes the seventh, and thus we keep the Sabbath by living a godly and blood-washed life every day. For we have ceased from our old works. Some people who haven't come to an understanding of what covenant they are under will point out that Paul often went into the synagogues on the Sabbath. If we look at those incidents, however, we see that it was to bring those who hear out of the synagogue and that system of death. Here is what Paul the Apostle said about the seventh day as found in Romans 14:5-6: "One man esteemeth one day above another, another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord, and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it."
We know that the Sabbath law is fulfilled in Jesus Christ and He abides within us. The seventh day Sabbath was not eliminated but fulfilled, and our Savior added six more days to that rest and gave us the timelessness of eternal life. Thus, the seventh day is kept holy with all the other days. We can worship our Lord any day and every day. We know that Sunday is not the Sabbath but rather one of seven days, any of which can be used for worship. Acts 20:7 says, "And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight."
It is my humble prayer that all who read this will realize the joy of keeping all seven days of the week holy and thus fulfill the sacred commandment; for it is not our works but the finished work of Christ that has established the eternal timeless Sabbath of the New Covenant by the power of His blood.
Pastor David J. Meyer
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Antichrist Will Be A Jew - Next President Of The U.s.a by Joagbaje(m): 9:04pm On Jun 08, 2010 |
whybanme: @alethia Is the antichrist only an unbeliever? No. the Antichrist is the one thats gonna throw this earth into a big chaos and it will only come about if he is the president of the u.s.a. Google is your friend. check out the jewish interests in the u.s.a There may be some truth in your claim . I believe personaly that the Antichrist will have dual citizenship to command the power he will have. Jewish by blood and politically powerful citizen of another powerful nation . Many scholars believe it will be a revived roman empire. An European country. America fits in being the most powerful nation for now. But America won't be a world power for too long. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Antichrist Will Be A Jew - Next President Of The U.s.a by Joagbaje(m): 8:56pm On Jun 08, 2010 |
aletheia: You have no proof what you write above. Moreover it smacks of antisemitism. According to you the antichrist spirit is "Jewish". Really? You quoted 1 John and yet failed to apply it. Everyone who rejects Christ is of the Antichrist.
1. Denial that Jesus Christ is the Eternal Son of God Who became incarnate. Islam, Buddhism, Zoroastrianism, Mormons, etc all deny this.
2. Denial that Jesus Christ is the Jewish Messiah. Islam, Buddhism, Zoroastrianism, Mormons, etc all deny this.
3. Denial of the Holy Trinity of which Jesus Christ is the Only Begotten Son of the Father. Islam, Buddhism, Zoroastrianism, Mormons, etc all deny this.
Thus your assertion: These 3 denials are the Jewish spirit of Antichrist fails! I don't know what you're getting at here . There is a system that is anti christ but this is different from the man of sin , the son of perdition . The false christ. |
Christianity Etc › Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by Joagbaje(m): 8:46pm On Jun 08, 2010 |
When will all these drama end. Is it now a crime to have postures for photographs ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by Joagbaje(m): 6:03pm On Jun 08, 2010 |
nuclearboy: Thank you SleekyMag. I was scared (and disappointed at Oyedepo) when Joagbaje said he used Pentagrams on his campus.
Obviously another rush to show his "extraordinary" kingdom revelation has ended with his foot entering inside his mouth (as usual).
Pentagram ko, Pentacle ni! kí ló n se this school BOY? always looking for trouble |
Christianity Etc › Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by Joagbaje(m): 5:55pm On Jun 08, 2010 |
sleekymag: Were or are? are u saying they r no longer there? while i disagree with you on the pentagram issue, (btw did u fly a helicopter to see the buildings from aerial view?), the architectural masterpiece definitely has some complex designs, but assuming they are/were pentagrams would not be correct. Google even has some pictures of CU and faith tabernacle, here are some pictures below. can u conclude they are pentagrams because of the multi-dimensions? forgive jare, 5 sided star 6 sided star. My mistake. But if you read my post well , Even if it's five sided star. I believe in the ministry of David Oyedepo as a man of God. Whatever design it was is to the glory of God. Using Jewish symbol. I thought the pentagram is 5 sided anyway. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by Joagbaje(m): 5:08pm On Jun 08, 2010 |
Image123: What's the OP on about? The Lord's day was declared even before the revelation of 'mark of the beast' Wow! I never thought of that |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Dont We Observe The Sabbath Day! by Joagbaje(m): 3:53pm On Jun 08, 2010 |
The purpose of sabbath is not worship of God but for man to rest his body, so whatever Fay a man worship is not an issue. Sabbath ( rest ) was made for man And not the other way round. Christ is the lord of rest ( sabbath) in him we have found rest.
Matthew 11:28 28 Come unto me, all[ ye] that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Dont We Observe The Sabbath Day! by Joagbaje(m): 2:24pm On Jun 08, 2010 |
Jesus christ is now the sabbath for us. Christians never declares Sunday a sabbath. We only worship God officially on Sundays because of Christ's ressurection , which was started by the early church. Everyday is holy for us now. Sabbath is the rest in christ. There is no special day again. |
Christianity Etc › Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by Joagbaje(m): 2:11pm On Jun 08, 2010 |
ogajim: Sleekymag: Take a GE tour of the whole campus and report back dude, these designs/signs have become almost unnoticeable due to their heavy use everywhere we look. I don't want to scare you but they are everywhere not only in Nigeria but the World over yet many are not aware of their true meanings. sleekymag: @ ogajim,
I'm not the least bit scared, y should i? i have toured the whole campus many times over and i don't know of any design/sign, maybe you could help by stating what you noticed, and we can start from there.
Howbeit, i am not ignorant of the fact that the world is saturated with agents of the devil disguised most times as harmless, or raves of the moment stuff. But i'd like to know the specifics you have against the man, rather than unfounded allegations supported by a bias against him. All the buildings at CU were symbols . Some hostels had the design of pentagram when you look at it from space or google earth . But from the ground level you will not notice this. But this does not by any means relate to cultism. They were Jewish symbols embedded in the architectural masterpiece. The symbol of the pentagram is also the Jewish symbol of the star of David. Other design were 7 lampstands 3 lampstands etc . |
Christianity Etc › Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by Joagbaje(m): 9:15am On Jun 08, 2010 |
biomes2001: I've studied freemasonry,Illuminati and Vatican activities for over 19years now. I knw how they operate. Besides dad used to belong to a secret society(but no mention) for over 35years b4 he repented, as u can see,I 've the background.I can smell a cultist from a million miles. However u can hardly get hardcopy evidence cos secret society activities are conducted in utmost secrecy and under the pain of death if revealed. However that witches confession exposing oyaks,oyedepo,Joshua et al is also instructive,if u need a hardcopy.Her testimonies corroborates my evidence,afterall I never met her b4.But though in different ways,yet she and I are sayin one thing, these men are satanic. But I repeat,neither Oyaks or the others can come publicly and denounce freemasonry,cos that ll mean there end, the best bet for them,as they are doin now,is graveyard silence, !!
o boy stop bein naive,go and take a better look at those pix again,u'll see better. Know that the kind of friends u keep ,always reveals the kind of person u are,remember "bad company corrupts good character", so says the bible,not me! You are revealing yourself gradually . So your father was a cultist. No wonder. You see everybody in that light. It is evident the demons of those cults are not yet cast out. Are you born again now? No" of course because you are yet in a cult yourself . From your new thread on sabbbath, it Shows you are a member of the cult called 7th Day Adventist which was also an offshoot of Jehovahs witness . And you are calling those who's message should have led you to salvation cultist. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by Joagbaje(m): 8:52am On Jun 08, 2010 |
We are no longer under the law of sabbaths friend.
Colossians 2:16-17 16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath[ days]: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body[ is] of Christ. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Antichrist Will Be A Jew - Next President Of The U.s.a by Joagbaje(m): 5:41pm On Jun 07, 2010 |
I believe the Antichrist must be a Jew too but from prophecies , he's supposed to be from Europe. Even though American Jew sounds logical. |