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masonkz: My question is, what happens to thoswho haven't heard about Jesus or Hell fire in their lives..and yes, there are millions of people like that. Will they also burn in "hell fire"? According to the Christian doctrine. Meanwhile, these people also think that their various religions are the best.

God will judge them acciring to the witness they have

Romans 2:14-15
For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another

Segeggs: u cant put ur child but u say God will.does dat mean u luv more than God?

Dont lie . I never said so. God won't put his children in hell

Segeggs: therewill be punishment for the wicked which is annihilation(second death) but not burning without dieing like ur hell doctrine preaches.even the verse u quoted spoke of second death so stop forcing lies

Death does not mean annihilation . Death is separation . Physical death is separation from the body . Spiritual death is banishment and separation from God

Beretta92: of course nt everybody.everybody is a hyperbole here,

but i remember a time when josh asked d congregatn:hw are u( d "u" here meaning born again xtian) sure u're free 4rm demons or sth like dat.implying dat each and everyone of dem cud be housing a demon in their bodies.Am nt a xtian anymore

He may make some statement to put people in check . Most people who go there have one problem or the other . I don't see the place as a local church .but as a healing centre rather . An interdenominationa healing centre.

but i knw it's unbiblical for a born again xtian 2 b demonized.i knw u think otherwise.folks like goshen n frosbel will agree with me on dis.i still maintain dat emmanuel tv deliverance(both josh's n d wise men's) is a sham.

You said you saw a pastor Demonised. There . How come you dis agree a christian can be Demonised.

Kay 17: Mr joe

Can you lock your child in an oven for stealing an orange?

No I can't . But I can put a snake there. Children of God won't go to hell . It's the children of the devil that will end up there .

Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone:which is the second death.

Kay 17: Mr joe

Can you lock your child in an oven for stealing an orange?

No I can't . But I can put a snake there. Children of God won't go to hell . It's the children of the devil that will end up there .

Segeggs: another false prophet at work here. You are simply afraid of hell and it shouldnt be so for any real child of God.

Stop talking childishly . You seem to be terrified by hell so you rather deny it. But your denial doesn't change the fact . Hell is real. Lake of fire is real. And I can't go there because . I love God and christ is my life .

Beretta92: everybody has a demon in d synagogue.

Be truthful Is it really everybody ?

everytime dey ask,"who're u?" nd then d fellow begins 2 yap balderdash.if they see u aint witty n gud @ blabbing, they free u n say "u're free

So what's your problem with that. Didn't Jesus ask demons who they were?


Mark 5:6-9
But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him, And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not. For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit. And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion:for we are many.

Segeggs: did d bible say dat they'll be alive while burning in the lake of fire?no.it is a second death which is none existence.can u enjoy heavenly bliss while ur loved ones are burning somewhere?by the way,have u burnt ur face in d stove like i told u cos dats d only reason y i can believe u.

What do you say about this passage

Mark 9:45-47
And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off:it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out:it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

Kay 17: The OP does make lots of sense. If God is Love, then how is that attribute reconciled with Hell. Its like placing your child's head in an oven

Do you believe in th bible ? Then just take it for what it says . If God says the wicked ill be dammed you don't need to question him by logic

The miracles are real. If you think otherwise prove it.. Why would someone come all he way fom America to roll on the gound in Nigeria .

Segeggs: was it also their choice to be created into a cruel word?if u send ur child to fetch firewood at the other side of a river that has been frozen but with ice not thick enough to support the weight of a rat,whatever happens to the child is ur responsibility.God knew dat dats y he sent jesus to redeem mankind.people sin attimes cos of tight situations.those dat will be destroyed-not burned alive and forever-are those dat worshipped the beast.sinners who didnt will come to know the true God and will be forgiven at the second resurrection.

You don't use logic for Gods word. Just accept what the bible says not what your mind feels.

Revelation 20:15
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.


God is not condemning anyone. Condemnation took place by the reason of Adam fall. God gave man another opportunity for salvation through christ . Anyone who reject the great salvation have himself to blame

John 3:16-17
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Segeggs: Can u burn ur child alive for telling lies,stealing or even worse?i know u cant which shows dat u believe mankind's love for their offspring is greater than the love our heavenly father has for we his children-which isnt so.before u continue believing the hell doctrine,first put ur handsome or ugly face in a burning stove for 15minutes then perhaps i will believe too.dont comment to argue if u havent tried it.

Point of correction. Those who go to hell are not Gods children . They are of the enemy .

Secondly, as much as God is love he is also the God of justice.. Those who go into damnation make their choice .its the choice that takes man to th different destination.

Deuteronomy 30:19
that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing:therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

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What else will come from the mouth of sheep without shepherd

Kunlecelica: , on the fresh leaf, it was written “Celica Church of Christ, the most glorious Church of Christ from Heaven.

But it's not heberew language

Pastor Kun: Do you attend Christ embassy

It's not Cec teaching

EMILO2STAY: saying a pastor leads, directs and guides our life is a false statement made only by false men of God.
It is the work of the holy spirit to guide, lead and direct our life as christians.
john 16:13But when he, the Spirit of truth,
comes, he will guide you into all truth.
He will not speak on his own; he will
speak only what he hears, and he will
tell you what is yet to come.

So what do you say about these verses then?

Hebrews 13:17
Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves:for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief:for that is unprofitable for you.

1 Peter 5:5
Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility:for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble.

1 Thessalonians 5:12-13
And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you; And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. And be at peace among yourselves.


You should remember that the voice of rebellion will always claim that leaders are lord. It started from Moses leadership

Numbers 16:3-4
And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, Ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the Lord is among them:wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the Lord? And when Moses heard it, he fell upon his face:

We all know how they destroyed themselves. Rebellion to spiritual leadership is demonic . Leadership is a principle in Gods kingdom. god never at any time led people directly . He does it through the sacred office of leadership

EMILO2STAY: saying a pastor leads, directs and guides our life is a false statement made only by false men of God.
It is the work of the holy spirit to guide, lead and direct our life as christians.
john 16:13But when he, the Spirit of truth,
comes, he will guide you into all truth.
He will not speak on his own; he will
speak only what he hears, and he will
tell you what is yet to come.

So what do you say about these verses then?

Hebrews 13:17
Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves:for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief:for that is unprofitable for you.

1 Peter 5:5
Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility:for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble.

1 Thessalonians 5:12-13
And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you; And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. And be at peace among yourselves.


You should remember that the voice of rebellion will always claim that leaders are lord. It started from Moses leadership

Numbers 16:3-4
And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, Ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the Lord is among them:wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the Lord? And when Moses heard it, he fell upon his face:

We all know how they destroyed themselves. Rebellion to spiritual leadership is demonic . Leadership is a principle in Gods kingdom. god never at any time led people directly . He does it through the sacred office of leadership

EMILO2STAY: saying a pastor leads, directs and guides our life is a false statement made only by false men of God.
It is the work of the holy spirit to guide, lead and direct our life as christians.
john 16:13But when he, the Spirit of truth,
comes, he will guide you into all truth.
He will not speak on his own; he will
speak only what he hears, and he will
tell you what is yet to come.

So what do you say about these verses then?

Hebrews 13:17
Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves:for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief:for that is unprofitable for you.

1 Peter 5:5
Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility:for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble.

1 Thessalonians 5:12-13
And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you; And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. And be at peace among yourselves.


You should remember that the voice of rebellion will always claim that leaders are lord. It started from Moses leadership

Numbers 16:3-4
And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, Ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the Lord is among them:wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the Lord? And when Moses heard it, he fell upon his face:

We all know how they destroyed themselves. Rebellion to spiritual leadership is demonic

ezme: There is nothing that cannot be supported by the bible when we choose to use stand alone verses.

So are you saying thoses verses are lying? The bible speakers for itself

Satan is the God of the world system. But the earth is the lords .

MostHigh: WOE UNTO THOSE THAT SAY THAT CHRISTIANS ARE JEWS FOR THEY ARE NOT

Where did you get this lie? Certainly not from scripture .

JHN 4:22 YE WORSHIP YE KNOW NOT WHAT: WE KNOW WHAT WE WORSHIP: FOR SALVATION IS OF THE JEWS.

Salvation is for all both Jews and gentile.

Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ:for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

John 10:16
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold:them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female:for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Romans 2:28-29
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

the word CELICA has its origin in Hebrew language which translated means Most Glorious. Hence the name of the church is translated as the Most Glorious Church of Christ from Heaven.

The hebrew WORD for GLORIUOS in heberew is ADAR,TIPARA and KABOD to my understandung . What's the proof that celiac is Hebrew word .? Can we have a reference..

I believe he chose the name just to sound like celestial where he pulled out from to retain CCC . Celiac is not a heberew word.

There's no revealing nothing. It's editors work. What's the contradiction?

frosbel: rule over you does not mean Lord over you , it actually means serving the body of Christ , feeding them with the word of GOD ,

Exactly , and who says otherwise?. Ministry is service. The teacher who cains you is still your servant . Fatherhood is still service, only rebels see it as lordship.

A pastor leads , feeds ,guides ,chastened and correct ,rebuke .

Hebrews 12:9
Moreover, we have had earthly fathers who disciplined us and we yielded [to them] and respected [them for training us]. Shall we not much more cheerfully submit to the Father of spirits and so [truly] live?

Either rigging, coup plot , if God didn't allow ,it won't succeed. It's not about the process it's about the person and the people. Every power is of God. Even when they fight against Gods people

John 19:11
Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above:therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.

ezme: The authority of a government who got into power via rigging is from God right? I don't blame you, if your CAN president can say Dr. Uduaghan is God's chosen leader for Delta state, I don't expect you to say anything better.All authority if from God right? Tell that to the Syrian people.

The government is a reflection of who the people are dude . God always grant a people the government they deserve. If God doesn't permit . Even rigging can't work.

Romans 13:1
. . . For there is no authority except from God [by His permission, His sanction], and those that exist do so by God’s appointment..

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This article does not show there's beneficial article there . All Authority is from God . Either from government or in the church. It is only the voice of rebellion that kicks against submission to authority.

Hebrews 13:17
Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves:for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief:for that is unprofitable for you.

manmustwac: Joagbaje a Pastor from ....... said this

Why should you be giving the location of a poster ? You are breaking rules o. How will you feel if I call you FRANK and mention your house address .

Dogohson: The problem I have with scientists is their attempt to give every phenomenon a scientific appendage. Colossians 2 : 8 warn us to beware of this. I've experienced night press on several occasion, but since I became spiritually alert such experience ceased. Night pressing is the work of the devil

Beautiful . . .

MostHigh: THE WAY OF LIFE OF YASHUA SON OF JOSEPH, !!

Why do you keep making reference to Jesus as son of Joseph. Joseph wasnt Jesus biological father

Many problems Christians go through are demonic. Sickness,fear,addiction,oppression, Where do sickness come from? It's ,softly by spirit of infirmity. Demons can influence a christian and obsess his mind.
Many negative emotions are demonic. Self pity,fear of rejection. Anger, bitterness,unforgiveness . What about habits? Addictions to sex,lust,etc. many of theses things are demonic.
What of oppression. Like barrenness, financial struggle. Family curses etc.