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 Christianity Etc › Re: N100,000 For Deliverance Fee: Please Advice Us Urgently by Joagbaje(m): 4:42am On Jan 27, 2013 |
Why not get your own pastor to pray if you need a minister, but if you must get another man from another state to come with his so called team. You must bear responsibility for him and his crew. So you should organize a a vehicle for them and hotel to stay. And of course , give them a token of what you can afford. It is wrong for ministers to demand money for healing or for any ministerial work. But it's proper to give ministers money in appreciation but make sure the money cover their expenses and extra 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Death And Hell Would Be Thrown In The Lake Of Fire. What Does This Mean ? by Joagbaje(m): 5:27pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Death is an enemy of God, death is also a spirit. What I understand by this is that death itself and the occupants of hell will be thrown into the lake of fire 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How To Discover Your Purpose, Or Destiny? by Joagbaje(m): 8:27am On Jan 25, 2013 |
Nice one |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How To Catch Fake Mog's Who Speak In Tongues (8+2) by Joagbaje(m): 8:22am On Jan 25, 2013 |
Logicboy03: Yes ooo!You should have asked yourself if joagbaje will give ear to such idiotic contest.  [size=3pt]All these childish posts sef![/size] 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Carnality Of The "Corinthians" Churches - Abuse Of Speaking In Tongues. by Joagbaje(m): 8:29pm On Jan 24, 2013 |
honourhim: I agree with you my brother but according to that verse 2, it says by the spirit. once the speaking comes by the spirit of God thats ok. But this sherimamamama, dorimamamama and oroboskata stuff that people are parading today as speaking in tongues(which of course they learnt from pastors and ministers) are not part of it.It doesn't matter how it sounds. What counts is the source. Either it's rabarababa o or borororo .  so far as its from the depth within. So it's not in the sound but in the power activated |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by Joagbaje(m): 12:58am On Jan 24, 2013 |
Kay 17: Hence God is a means to one's goals of prosperity and happiness?He provides for his children . How do you explain the riches of none Christians?They dont have peace . The riches they posess is temporal Proverbs 13:22 . . . the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the just. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Carnality Of The "Corinthians" Churches - Abuse Of Speaking In Tongues. by Joagbaje(m): 10:31pm On Jan 23, 2013 |
Goshen360: @ Joagbaje, Please can you point us to the verse(s) that encourages 'corporate' speaking in tongues without the gift of interpretation?If nothing is wrong with praying cooperately in English why should it be wrong to pray cooperately in other tongues. The early church prayed cooperately in tongues. Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. Cornelius family also Acts 10:44-45 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. . . .For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter Acts 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied., |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Salvation Is Of The Jews. by Joagbaje(m): 6:57pm On Jan 23, 2013 |
MostHigh: Joagbaje!!!He went to where the people were so as to minister to them. Not because he was observing sabbath. The purpose of sabbath was not worship. The purpose of sabbath was not to do any work. But Jesus broke that law. He worked on sabbath day. Healed on sabbath day, hhis disciples harvested corn on sabbath day. When he was confronted he justified his action. Mark 2:27 . . .And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: [quote]was this a guise also as you have implied before regarding pauls actions?[Try read my previous post and check out the scriptures I quoted . You may comment on those scriptures . |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Salvation Is Of The Jews. by Joagbaje(m): 12:29pm On Jan 23, 2013 |
MostHigh: JoagbajePeter denied Jesus ,yet he is in the kingdom Jesus compromised his revelation by condescending to the carnality of the desciples. About Lazarus death . John 11:11-14 These things said he:and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep. Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well. Howbeit Jesus spake of his death:but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep. Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead. Paul had to communicate in the flesh with churches like Corinthians .He couldn't use spiritual language, he had to speak carnaly 3. you say Jesus will reign in David throne for a thousand years. is this a literal earthly throne (kingdom)? just like the other monarchies of the world.Yes jeus will rule literarily |
| Christianity Etc › Re: You Are Dead Unto Sin by Joagbaje(op): 10:52am On Jan 23, 2013 |
okeyxyz: While you are right, I have to put it to you that you are still thinking in "shadows"(no offense) in that the question of jews and gentiles are still symbolic expressions for perfect spiritual expressions that god conveys.You have to expatiate on that. You shall not call anything the Lord has made unclean..(Mark 7:19, Acts 11:9, Romans 14:14, Titus 1:15 ). I know when christians read this, all they think about is food, but I tell you know that the origin of this is se.x; food laws are just derivatives and shadows of s.exual laws.I still don't agree with your interpretation on acts 11. The scripture is Clare. The Jews had no dealing with Gentiles . He was a "God" of the Jews . The Gentiles were unclean . They were represented by unclean animals in the law. Now that era is over .salvation has come to Gentiles but the Jews will not accept . God had to give Peter that vision as illustration. That the unclean animals (gentiles)are now cleansed. And he made it clearer to him that some Gentiles were coming to see him , he should not refuse to go with them. Their coming was the reason for the vision. Acts 10:17 17 Now while Peter wondered within himself what this vision which he had seen meant, behold, the men who had been sent from Cornelius had made inquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate. Well if you say "that was a dispensation..", what it means is that what god created was not good as God himself had declared. It means there was a fault and detoriration with his works and that the imperfections, sicknesses, famines and eventually death that we experience is not as a result of Adams original sin, etc.Don't go too far . I didn't suggest all these. Adam was not a perfect. He hadn't eaten of tree of life yet. Perfection of was connected to those two trees. The knowledge in that tree is simply ability of discernment or judgement . Which is a sign of maturity and full age . Hebrews 5:14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. And you say they were not aware of their unclothedness? Not true! rather they were not "Ashamed" of their unclothedness,Let's avoid extreme . The bible was clear they were not aware of their unclothedness .they only knew they were naked when they ate the fruit. Look at cheaper 3. Genesis 3:7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; I don't believe so. For adam to declare: "This is now bone of my bones, And flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman, Because she was taken out of Man.This was where Adam statement ended.verse 24 was from narrator ” 24 For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh. 25And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed(Genesis 2:23-24 ).", It shows that they were sexually aware. I can't imagine Adam decalring these words about another man like himself.Adam didn't make the above statement. Even if he did , it has nothing to indicate they had sexua.l intercourse before the fall. The bible was clear on the time they had sexx. Genesis 4:1 Cain Murders Abel 1 Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, “I have acquired a man from the Lord.” No! It cannot be.The devil pre-existed Adam and rebelled before Adam. He still roams the places of the most high until he is finally "bound and imprisoned", which has not happened yet.[/quote] |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Carnality Of The "Corinthians" Churches - Abuse Of Speaking In Tongues. by Joagbaje(m): 7:35am On Jan 23, 2013 |
Goshen360: This is the kind of error Apostle Paul was trynna correct. How do you mean that speaking in tongues it to PEOPLE?. ]You need to understand the code of a writing. Just as paul gave the code about covering of hair. Head of woman is. . . Head of man is. . .anybody who miss that part will lose the truth about that passage. Now if you study that passage carefully . Paul used certain codes . Prophesying in that passage simply means speaking in native dialect . While speaking with tongues means speaking to people either by preaching ,exhortation or prophecy in heavenly language.. If you come to people in tongues ,it's wrong . To prophesy or teach or preach in tongues . That's what I mean by speaking to people . That's what paul was saying, Look at these scriptures in that light with neutra mind.. I 1 Corinthians 14:19 Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue. 1 Corinthians 14:6 Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine? It's about speaking or preaching to people .not about praying to God. So there's a prayer aspect of tongues. Individually or cooperately there's also a speaking aspect . Which require interpreting for others to benefit from the message 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Carnality Of The "Corinthians" Churches - Abuse Of Speaking In Tongues. by Joagbaje(m): 3:17am On Jan 23, 2013 |
There difference between praying in tongues and speaking in tongues . Praying in tongues is to God . Speaking in tongues is to people or on behalf of people . Such requires interpretation. If you are talking to God by yourself . You don't need Interpretraction. So if you are prophesying, or praying for people as a leader in tongues it's wrong if its not interpreted. But you can pray by yourself in tongues . Just the way you could have prayed in your understanding.. 1 Corinthians 14:27-28 . But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God. Speakiing to himself and to God . doesnt mean outside the church. So if the whole church prays individually in tongues . It's perfectly ok. It's personal. Between each person and God.the issue here is not what language you're speaking. But who are you speaking to. God, man, or yourself . 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by Joagbaje(m): 3:02am On Jan 23, 2013 |
achina boy: God has created you to fend for your life and future,he don`t careI agree with the first part. You are responsible for your life , not God. God gives his word and power as instrument for us to prosper by . What you do with the word of God determine the out come. Through his words ,instructions for living are given. If you do the word . You will experience the protection and blessing. If you don't do it . You experience the absence of the blessing in the particular area of your carelessness . The choice is yours. Deuteronomy 30:19 I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing:therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: Proverbs 4:20-22 My son, attend to my words;incline thine ear unto my sayings. Let them not depart from thine eyes;keep them in the midst of thine heart. For they are life unto those that find them,and health to all their flesh. he don`t carasThis last part of your post is wrong. God cares and he want every one to know his principles and by these principles make their lives successes. Joshua 1:8 observe to do according to all that is written therein:for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success. From the scripture above ,it says "thou" shall make thy way prosperous. You see it's our responsibility , to take advantage of his grace |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by Joagbaje(m): 2:53am On Jan 23, 2013 |
Logicboy03: Go preach your failed gospel somewhere else abeg. Talking like you know what God prioritizes...mtchewWhat is failed gospel . |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by Joagbaje(m): 9:42pm On Jan 22, 2013 |
God is not responsible for our lives. We have the responsibility to function in his will and plans |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Salvation Is Of The Jews. by Joagbaje(m): 8:09pm On Jan 22, 2013 |
MostHigh: JoagbajeHaba! Take it easy. I didn't blow all these grammar. The scriptures I quoted explains itself. He identified with them just to give impression he wasn't against them. So because paul dey live inside gentile home he wont observe the sabbath or obey the holy instructions in the bible he will become a pagan to win them to christ?Jesus didn't observe it either . But paul didnt criticism those who do . Romans 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another:another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: On the contrary i think he would continue his way of life but would not condemn them for not doing the same remember he said (do as i do).Do as I do is not applicable here. Paul disobeyed and compromised . He had personal burden for salvation of Israel. But God sent him rather to the gentile but paul still smuggled his way to the Jews . So he had to compromise because grace for such assignment was not with him. If God send you ,he will give you grace for the job. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Salvation Is Of The Jews. by Joagbaje(m): 7:29pm On Jan 22, 2013 |
Jesus will reign in David throne for a thousand years. After that comes the great battle of GOG and msggog |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Closing Eyes In Prayer , How Biblical by Joagbaje(op): 7:32pm On Jan 21, 2013 |
In my study I also observe that everywhere Jesus prayed ,he opened his eyes. |
| Christianity Etc › Closing Eyes In Prayer , How Biblical by Joagbaje(op): 11:44am On Jan 21, 2013 |
When i was a child i was told to close my eyes in prayers .or else angels will poke finger into my eyes. Is it scriptural to close eyes in prayer? What is the origin? 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Legal And Vital Sons by Joagbaje(op): 3:45am On Jan 21, 2013 |
1 John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not Rather than use the Greek word "huios" for "sons," which refers to the sons of figurative kingship, the word "teknon" is used in 1 John 3:1 to express that we’re the vital sons of God; His sons and daughters in truth, because we’re actually born of Him. 1 John 3:2, tells us, . . . "Beloved, now are we the sons of God" not in the future, or when we get to heaven, but NOW. It’s a statement of fact; a present hour reality, that as Christians, we are the bona fide, legal, and vital sons of God. Understand that the legal aspect of redemption was what made the vital experience of eternal life possible. 1 Corinthians 6:20 says, . . ."For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s." This is the legal aspect of redemption; the fact that you were bought with a price. Then, verse nineteen tells us, "What? Know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?" This shows that God has brought us to live in His class of being, and has poured Himself into us, thereby. making our physical bodies His tabernacle of witness; His living temple. This is the vital aspect. Now, the vital aspect of our sonship is that you’re born of the Spirit of God; you’re born of the Word of God (1 Peter 1:23). As a result, you now have the life of God in you; you’re no longer ordinary; you have the supernatural life. Being born again, you’ve become the "tecknon" of God; the legal and vital son of God. As a result, the Bible says "…God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father" (Galatians 4:6). Take advantage. of your privileged position as a child of God in |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Dont I Fall Under 'anointing' by Joagbaje(m): 2:12pm On Jan 20, 2013 |
Alert: I have been to some power packed christians programmes where i have people falling around me even to the extent of almost knocking me down but i am always smart to carefully dodge them. The last programme i went for at MFM, got me really worried and thinking, i went with my sister to the church, lo and behold my sis was falling all over the place while i was unmoved, it shocked me cos we are siblings. I later asked her how she felt, she told me she didnt know what she was doing that her body moved on its own accord and she felt hot insideIt's not really a must you must fall. But really some people be resisting the power unconsciously especially those who had religious upbringing . It happened to me . I found it hard to speak in tongues and I didn't experience falling under the power. But I see very rough guys who just got saved experienced these things . My resistance was finally broken after personal prayers . |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Sickness Is Not An Act Of God by Joagbaje(op): 5:20am On Jan 20, 2013 |
Composer: Do you seriously consider your getting Cancer or some other terrible disease for your wife or children is a ' good gift? 'You not understand my post. It's rather the opposite . My point is that agod doesn't give people any bad thing such as sickness . He give only good things. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Prosperity Gospel Ruined My Life by Joagbaje(m): 1:23am On Jan 20, 2013 |
ezme: Joagbaje:It's simple . I was trying to debunk the idea that its wrong to be motivated by end result in giving . God gave His only son with the hope of having many sons. That's motive. Jesus endured the pain for the hope and joy of the harvest . Hebrews 12:2 .. . ; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Prosperity Gospel Ruined My Life by Joagbaje(m): 12:23am On Jan 20, 2013*. Modified: 1:08am On Jan 20, 2013 |
Zikkyy: Have told you before, nobody is arguing that givers will not receive God's blessing, and God will not abandon those that have subjected themselves to the gospel of Christ.Your claim was that its wrong to give with expectation. And wrong to encourage people to give with expectation. Your claim is to give rather without expecting . And I gave those scriptures to show the error of such teaching . Paul is telling his audience to be generous, to be charitable; but it must be done right i.e. "You didnt buy such idea before. Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to giveDid anyone teach otherwise? , not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver". "......it will be ready as a generous gift, not as one grudgingly given.."Does anyone teach that men should give sadly or grudgingly? Encouraging his audience to give by stating that they will not lack because God is there for them is not the same thing as saying they should give for the purpose of receiving from God.What's the difference? Pastor Paul's says . "We have a project here, give charitably, if you give small ,you will receive small small . If you give big ,you will receive big big". Why hail Paul and condemn others . Is it not thiesame principle ? This is where we differ in our interpretation. The condition or motive of the heart is what makes the difference.And what is wrong with this MOTIVE to give and receive? Is there any place God condemn it.? . You should let the word of God form your opinion and not let your opinion override the word of God. Firstly there are different kinds of givings . I can do thanksgiving offering just to appreciate God. Either he bless or not. "Just take am papa" but when we say SEED SOWING. It's a different ball game. A seed is sown with a motive which is the harvest. We should not try to be more humble than God. Jesus commanded a practice .look AT these scriptures again without biase pls Luke 6:38 Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again. 2 Corinthians 9:6 But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked:for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. And in addition . Givings are sacredly done unto God. Church money is not pastors money. So a pastor is not raising a project money for himself . If you give it's your business. After all its not everybody who gives . And nobody is sticking a gun in the head of another to give grudgingly . It's only God who can make someone give. Except a greedy man who God can't even move ! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Prosperity Gospel Ruined My Life by Joagbaje(m): 11:34pm On Jan 19, 2013*. Modified: 11:52pm On Jan 19, 2013 |
frosbel: You seem to see money everywhere there is mention of sowing and offerings. How sad.I didn't mention money. You seem to have money phobia, it's a poverty mentality . How sad |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Sickness Is Not An Act Of God by Joagbaje(op): 6:45pm On Jan 19, 2013 |
gbrookes02: Yes God created "all the nasties e.g. diseases, suffering, pain, cruelty, paedophiles, famine, Tsunamis, earthquakes, ebola virus, rapes, murders & even for believers in a poor old alleged Satan the naughty angel, it is apparently only doing what is told & created to do".James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Christ Is Head by Joagbaje(m): 8:28am On Jan 19, 2013 |
Bidam: ayam not evading any scriptures..you are the one not getting it..He came in the likeness of men thru the virgin birth..so wat do you expect from Him than to serve..look @ phil 2:6.." Who, being in THE VERY NATURE GOD,did not consider EQUALITY with God something to be grasped(that means he set a pattern for humility here and dats why He calls Himself servant cos He came for service...did u get it! You guys are even the ones evading philipians 2:6 see me see wahala!!!Jesus came as a 100% human even though he was part of the Godhead as the word of God which became him |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Christ Is Head by Joagbaje(m): 8:28am On Jan 19, 2013 |
Bidam: ayam not evading any scriptures..you are the one not getting it..He came in the likeness of men thru the virgin birth..so wat do you expect from Him than to serve..look @ phil 2:6.." Who, being in THE VERY NATURE GOD,did not consider EQUALITY with God something to be grasped(that means he set a pattern for humility here and dats why He calls Himself servant cos He came for service...did u get it! You guys are even the ones evading philipians 2:6 see me see wahala!!!Jesus came as a 100% human even though he was part of the Godhead |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Salvation Is Of The Jews. by Joagbaje(m): 8:23am On Jan 19, 2013 |
Sorry about my earlier response. I misunderstood your post. I didn't read it well . I thought you were making mockery. I'm out for intelligent and biblical discussion. I'm really surprised that you are not yet convinced by the scriptures I quoted. I really want to know your point and clear perspective on this matter |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by Joagbaje(m): 8:16am On Jan 19, 2013 |
Goshen360: I do consider tattoos to be sin against our body and consequently against God ONLY AFTER someone comes to Christ, not BEFORE. Now, there's no scripture that SPECIFICALLY mentioned tattoos especially for Christians but lots of verses infers our body doesn't belong to is anymore but to God and we must glorify God in or with our body.It's non consequential what decoration you put on your body. The bible didn't condemn tattooing. Certain things may not be decent . But not all indecency is sin. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Will Having Tattoos Send Me To Hell? by Joagbaje(m): 8:10am On Jan 19, 2013 |
As much as I see tattoo as not decent . It's a matter of choice what decoration you put on your body .The bible is not against tattoo. God is not against tattoo. Do don't feel condemn by nothing. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Didn't God Correct Adam When He Found Flaws In Him? by Joagbaje(m): 8:05am On Jan 19, 2013 |
tpia@:You are right . They were undergoing a process . They weren't meant to stay in the garden forever. The training was prematurely aborted |
before then i used to think most of it were fake or people just feel like falling but with my sis experience, it got me really thinking deeply, why dont i fall under anointing?1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ... 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 (of 284 pages)