Christianity Etc › Re: Searching & Sharing Chat by Joshthefirst(m): 2:07pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
sonOfLucifer: Smh.
Now, I believe you're a doctor. Your poem reads like a drug prescription... I don't understand it.. lol. I'm a med student. And we're very fun loving. Haba guy. My poem was epic. Didn't you see the bad glad rhyme? Smh |
Christianity Etc › Re: Searching & Sharing Chat by Joshthefirst(m): 2:03pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Searching & Sharing Chat by Joshthefirst(m): 2:01pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
Tufanja: I dont really care. The big boys always turned out to be bad guys. So yeah, i will first look at the content before I measure now. Rap: I'm big but I ain't bad... I have a gentle heart that's all muscle and very..glad  Just focus on the lyrics.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Searching & Sharing Chat by Joshthefirst(m): 1:59pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
Tufanja: Correction, i am not that tall. I am just 181cm, about 6ft. Before u accuse me of lying :p. U can come and measure hahaha Phew. I was afraid you were taller than me.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Joshthefirst(m): 1:55pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
JackBizzle: Plaetton? Plaetton is one of the calmest guys on NL. A cool atheists
Muskeeto, Weigraff and logic mind......these guys could frustrate even Jesus. plaetton masks his fiercenees in calm and fancy words targeted at the hole in your breastplates. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Searching & Sharing Chat by Joshthefirst(m): 1:47pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
JackBizzle: Sorry, was replying a lot of people, I mistook you for tufanja....she 6.4ft  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Searching & Sharing Chat by Joshthefirst(m): 1:41pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
sonOfLucifer: Damn.. Doesn't really matter.. Taller than you by probably a strand of hair... Except you're bald..   |
Christianity Etc › Re: Searching & Sharing Chat by Joshthefirst(m): 1:39pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
JackBizzle: Easy for you to say. Do you date guys that are shorter than you?  Oboye. Sorry lb. Not interested. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Joshthefirst(m): 1:35pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
JackBizzle: What? Do you think that I'm some crazy psychopath that is always angry?
I'm smiling most of the time when I'm on nairaland.....except when I'm dealing with ishi.................................... I'm smiling most of the time too except when I'm dealing with plaetton. The old man has a way of getting under my skin.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Searching & Sharing Chat by Joshthefirst(m): 1:32pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
JackBizzle: Anyhoo, I'm of average height. I'm taller than most women I meet. But I'm skinny,so I'm shorter than I look  Don't worry Lb. You are fearfully and wonderfully made.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Searching & Sharing Chat by Joshthefirst(m): 1:29pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
sonOfLucifer: 6'3.. Na wa oo... all these Igbo boys turning to Kenyans..  lolol. I'm 6'2.5 189cm |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Joshthefirst(m): 1:22pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
JackBizzle:
 Its good to see you smile for no reason once in a while LB. It gives me hope. You should learn to do this  more too. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Searching & Sharing Chat by Joshthefirst(m): 1:20pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
JackBizzle: I swear, I didnt mean that.
Anyhoo, is that your secret? You havent told me what you guys eat to get body like that.
I look like a teenager compared to you and johnydon....what do you guys eat? beans. I'm six plus too. Unfortunately I'm below eighty kilos. How tall are you? Sonoflucifer how tall are you? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Joshthefirst(m): 1:15pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: If Evolution Was Untrue. by Joshthefirst(m): 1:13pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
CoolUsername: Error margin is reduced by using several rock samples for the dating. How does using several rock samples reduce an error caused by a fluxing magnetic field that affects all the rocks under its influence? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Joshthefirst(m): 1:08pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
sonOfLucifer: I don't think it necessarilly follows that an all-powerful God can not be good.
If we are created, we all have a purpose which we must fulfill. Without him, we wouldn't have life in the first place. So we never really 'own' life.. We only get to keep it for a said time as defined by God.
This would mean God's purpose before man's. And thus, only one sharing the same attributes as God would be able to question his judgement or morality. We will be nothing but pencils in the hands of the creator.
Cc Joshthefirst, reyginus, kingebukasblog  Endorsed.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Finally, Life Is Synthesized In A Lab. by Joshthefirst(m): 1:05pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
CoolUsername: This is the sort of thing that some people do that makes me angry, this article points out that they worked on the M. Mycoides cell and to create Syn3.0, a synthetic cell that has a lower number of genes than any other bacterium found in the wild and can still support life.
The Guardian corroborates the story.
So does Medline.
Don't lie to protect your fragile beliefs. You of all people should not speak foolishly. I posted the process of engineering of Syn3.0. They simply chiselled out non-essential parts of the mycoides genome to create a least functional unit. How does this equate to synthesizing life? The first part of the experiment where design was involved failed. It is clearly stated there. CoolUsername: Wait, if an artist chisels a rock down to make a sculpture, then by your logic we can say that he didn't really create the sculpture, right? This is a foolish analogy. An unhewn rock forming a sculpture is not the same as an already designed genome being cut down to a reduced functional unit. Call the experiment what it is. Don't be dishonest to promote your fragile belief. Unfortunately I grow sick when I spend too much time discussing with charlatans. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Finally, Life Is Synthesized In A Lab. by Joshthefirst(m): 10:17am On Mar 27, 2016 |
plaetton: My only apology is to myself for casting pearls(science) before the proverbial swine( religious nuts). And with this you have shown yourself to be indoctrinated, close-minded and too proud to admit your lies even in the face of evidence. I'm no longer surprised anyway |
Christianity Etc › Re: Finally, Life Is Synthesized In A Lab. by Joshthefirst(m): 10:14am On Mar 27, 2016 |
plaetton: If engineering a new life form is different from creating a new life form, then I should be asking for a refund of all my English lessons paid for.
Basically, you are implying that in your universe, your God is simply a creator, a cosmic magician that pulls rabbits of out of a cosmic hat.
He is neither an author, designer, architect , engineer or programmer, just a magical creator who creates from cosmic nothing. Don't try to make this about me and steer derail your own thread. Your thread is dishonest. It should be put down |
Christianity Etc › Re: Finally, Life Is Synthesized In A Lab. by Joshthefirst(m): 10:12am On Mar 27, 2016 |
plaetton: If engineering a new life form is different from creating a new life form, then I should be asking for a refund of all my English lessons paid for. You shouldn't"t be saying anything other than an apology for misleading. You came here and lied claiming life has been created in the lab. Apologize for your mistake. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Searching & Sharing Chat by Joshthefirst(m): 10:02am On Mar 27, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Searching & Sharing Chat by Joshthefirst(m): 8:44am On Mar 27, 2016 |
I'm blessed to be with family this Easter. I'm out with the folks to church first, then dinner at home later. Happy Easter guys. Jesus' resurrection means justification for us. No accusation can stand against us anymore because of his victory. Come freely to God today. Have a glorious day of celebration. (Omo there'll be feasting and dining in heaven in case anyone didn't know. Just something to look forward to.  ) |
Christianity Etc › Re: Finally, Life Is Synthesized In A Lab. by Joshthefirst(m): 1:20am On Mar 27, 2016*. Modified: 8:37am On Mar 27, 2016 |
Joshthefirst: Nothing in that article points to this.
So this thread is basically untrue. And you're basically lying. plaetton: So, do you first of all agree that life has indeed been created in the lab? If you do, then you agree that life is simply a fruit of a chemical reaction. That's all that I am interested in highlighting here. Now, whether such chemical reactions need an Intelligent supervision or can occur in nature without Intelligent supervision is a subject for another debate. You aren't just lying Plaetton, but I've finally seen your true color. You are shallow. You saw this article on bloomberg and didn't even bother to look into details, but blatantly ran away to misrepresent original research in hopes of advertising and confirming your world view. Scientists did not create life, they engineered a very simple life-form. Did they synthesize its genome from raw-materials? No. Did they design any aspect at all of the engineered organism's cell? No. They essentially did cut and join and removed non-essential genes from the genome of their raw material until they found a functional point. Scientists engineer a life form and plaetton comes on nairaland to report that life has been created in the lab. Shame on you. In their current work, Venter, along with project leader Clyde Hutchison at JCVI, set out to determine the minimal set of genes needed for life by stripping nonessential genes from Syn 1.0. They initially formed two teams, each with the same task: using all available genomic knowledge to design a bacterial chromosome with the hypothetical minimum genome. Both proposals were then synthesized and transplanted into
M. capricolum to see whether either would produce a viable organism.
“The big news is we failed,” Venter says. “I was surprised.” Neither chromosome produced a living microbe. It’s clear, Venter says, that “our current knowledge of bio
logy is not sufficient to sit down and design a living organism and build it.”
[b]Venter and his colleagues had better success with trial and error. They divided Syn 1.0’s genome, with its 901 genes, into eight sections. To the beginning and end of each section they added identical DNA tags that made the pieces easy to reassemble. That allowed them to treat the sections as independent modules, removing each one in turn, deleting chunks of DNA, then reassembling the full genome and reinserting it into M. capricolum to see whether it produced a living cell. If the altered genome wasn’t viable, they knew they had cut out an essential gene that had to be restored. The researchers also assessed the necessity of numerous genes in the microbe by inserting foreign genetic material, called transposons, to disrupt their function.
All this enabled them to systematically whittle away genes that either had nonessential functions or duplicated the function of another gene. In the end, Venter says, his team built, designed, and tested “multiple hundreds” of constructs before settling on Syn 3.0, with a genome about half the size of Syn 1.0’s. (Syn 2.0 was an intermediate stage in this process, the first microbe with a genome smaller than that of M. genitalium, which with 525 genes has the fewest of any free-living natural organism.)[/b]
Once the whittling was complete, the researchers reordered the remaining genes, aligning ones that work in common pathways. The procedure tidied up the genome much as a computer compresses and re
organizes files on its hard drive to save disk space. This will likely make life much easier for synthetic biologists who will experiment with Syn 3.0 in the future, Voigt says. SourceAnd I can no longer truly take you seriously, you, or any other parader that has come to this thread to pat your back. I'm truly disappointed in you, and Kay. I know it may not mean anything to you, but I once held you in high esteem as someone who didn't talk falsehoods or misrepresent to promote his beliefs. But that has continued to change of recent, and this thread is the straw that has broken the camels back. Are you even a scientist in any way? I seriously doubt. menesheh: Point of correction, I never meant that you are silly but that your capacity to process information is flawed. And still pretty hasty to conclude that it is false, therefore, there is no need to be happy for such a milestone reached in science.  I weep for the way anti-theism has turned normal rational thinking folks into skewed paraders like this. I have no time for derived mockers who know nothing about science as it seems. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Finally, Life Is Synthesized In A Lab. by Joshthefirst(m): 8:56am On Mar 26, 2016 |
zeemahn: Visit the link na. I did. Unless the op changed it |
Christianity Etc › Re: Finally, Life Is Synthesized In A Lab. by Joshthefirst(m): 8:29am On Mar 26, 2016 |
menesheh: What about this comment below from same passage.
Always endevour to read between the line.
Actually am not a bit surprice, this is the sort of brain chemistry from people who believe that unknowable and undemonstrable realms can exist out of nothing and remotely believed it very strongly you cannot realize by article I meant source. Lol. And you think I'm stupid eh? Plaetton, this guy has disgraced what was left of this thread. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Finally, Life Is Synthesized In A Lab. by Joshthefirst(m): 7:55am On Mar 26, 2016 |
Now, a new breakthrough is threatening to confirm the position that we have always held; that when the right chemical and environmental threshold is attained, anything is possible, including life. Nothing in that article points to this. So this thread is basically untrue. And you're basically lying. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Searching & Sharing Chat by Joshthefirst(m): 7:39am On Mar 26, 2016 |
JackBizzle: Doesn't matter.
It makes a good origin story. Its a bit dry actually... Why must my origin story be dry? Yours isn't dry, muskeeto's isn't dry. You can do better abeg.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Searching & Sharing Chat by Joshthefirst(m): 7:34am On Mar 26, 2016 |
JackBizzle: GAME OF THRONES!!!
King Tommen Barratheon, First of his name.
Knight Josh of Nairaland, First of his name- hence, Joshthefirst! I opened this account 2013. I don't think I had come across game of thrones yet |
Crime › Re: Mother Dumps Baby At The Roadside In Calabar -- (Graphic Photos ) by Joshthefirst(m): 10:43pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
Kay17: What family planning methods did you have in mind? Contraception. Sterilization. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Joshthefirst(m): 10:36pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
plaetton: Lol
I presume that you are one of the elect handlers for scripture?
But why does scripture require handlers? any one who is born again is a good handler. Scriptures need to be rightly divided because charlatans can twist it and deceive many |
Crime › Re: Mother Dumps Baby At The Roadside In Calabar -- (Graphic Photos ) by Joshthefirst(m): 9:53pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
MRBrownJ: but yes, of course, we should continue forcing these UNFIT/UNWILLNG mothers to have these unwanted kids, so that they can throw them in garbage bins and gutters. Let them have the babies. yes. they should take them to homes and places where they will not die. Value human life and don't despise it. Life is potential. Life is divine. |
Crime › Re: Mother Dumps Baby At The Roadside In Calabar -- (Graphic Photos ) by Joshthefirst(m): 9:48pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
Kay17: The abstinence crowd wouldn't talk about the failures of abstinence. When sexually active adults are battered by raging hormones, when Nature has appointed the age when we reproduce, who are We to deny such a natural process?
Besides abortion helps keep the population stable, we can't recklessly bank on abstinence. What about banking on other methods of family planning that doesn't leave blood on your hands? Your words are basically evil. You can explain wars and genocidal killings as helping to keep the population stable also. Disregard for human life and all the potential life holds, especially unsoiled, unborn life.  |