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BiolaOmowaye:
Lol
Oga i no dey pay anything until i see my passport granted visa.

i want to believe that you are joking..or innocently naive

Who told you that an agent can get you a real visa without you paying anything?

He can give you that assurance because he knew that he will definitely put fake visa stamp on your passport, collect that 1.4M then do a runner.

Canadian embassy is closed so there is no way he can send in an application for you or you going for medical.

You can't work with visiting visa in Canada, so he lied to you when he said that you will be able to get a job within a month.

Good luck

BiolaOmowaye:
I Get you.

I’ve even seen someone that want to help me run Canada.
He said i just need to come with my passport to his office and when the visa is out I’ll pay him 1.4.
He said he has reliable link. That i don’t need to pay shishi yet.
That’s better no upfront payment and he said I’ll have 2years working permit.

I'm 100% sure that you are a potential victim, that person will clean you up and you still come back here to complain.

Try it and come back here to shame me.

This sort of scam is very very common

missjekyll:
Justwise

I am a bit surprised at you to be honest. A very wise person once said the more I learn ,the more I realise I know nothing.

Stand down please. Everyone is working from home.Websites are not getting updated as frequently. Not everything can be found on the internet anymore. I have it on good authority that the travel documents were perfectly in order. 56 of them had visa waivers. 2 had valid visas.

Learn to leave room for dissenting opinions. Even Priti Patel the home secretary wont argue the way you are arguing here

You can never learn when you believe anything without seeing an evidence, yes people work from home and website get updated from home as well.

1. If their papers were in order as you stated then why were they not allowed to travel?

2. The health care recruitment agent can not give them visa waiver letter as many of you here have stated..only the UKBA can give such letter( Honestly i have never heard of such letter as regards to Nigerians)

3. How can a recruitment agent charter a flight, land in Nigeria to pick up 58 Nigerians without the consent of Nigerian govt or even the immigration authority?

Punch newpaper reported and i quote : The NIS Spokesman, Sunday James, said in a statement on Friday that the doctors claimed to be going for training but had no visas

Does that make sense to you?

@wip7

I think you need to open another part of this thread but free ad will not be allowed, in other threads in this section ad is completely not allowed but this thread has gone against this rule for yrs now.

laiperi:
You know what, we all should be loyal to this country, not doctors alone. We need some incentives or deterrent to enforce this. Look at the children of the privileged. They send their children to the best schools at home and abroad. So you should not be surprised that they are the first to complain about Nigeria because they feel entitled than other professionals or the poor and will disown their loyalty or the country like the poor that have nothing.

One of my beef with them is that in the countries they run to, the privileged champion the cause of the poor, the rich bequest their wealth to good causes. And for the first time, children of the privileged whites came out, outnumbering blacks in the demonstrations.

As I stated before those Indians that make up the majority of foreign doctors in UK fight for their Civil Rights, discrimination, exploitation of Rural and Remote areas doctors. One of my brothers here feign ignorance of Rural or Remote areas in Europe or America, Western world for short.

So educate me how we can have loyalty to Nigeria when selfishness and greed override everything.

You are good at making allegations with no evidence to back them up.

Like i said before..mention those remote areas in the UK or western countries where foreign doctors are maltreated as you clamined

ihesiuloa:
Yes, I remembered that year, I was also one of the victims promised of a cruise ship job back then to work in Canada, I did so many documentations and scans which I sent through the address given, I even scanned my international passport and sent it along with other documents, but when it got to the time they requested for money to be sent along with the docs' I smelt a rat and I discontinued with them.

I hope this is not like this case https://www.nairaland.com/706047/crystal-service-immigration-scam/23

The scammer and his agents made close to 1B naira from the scam.

You will not believe that those Nigerians in that link went to national stadium to be picked up by charted flight to Canada.

Shocking..like i said i hope this is not close to it

Lexusgs430:
Extra cash flow, but you don't receive a physical credit card (just spending limit)......

Any retailer that accepts PayPal, just log in and pay.......

Ok but i don't want, let me earn it to spend it.

I use PayPal a lot and link almost all my online payment through them but i'm not getting their credit card only if they offer some juicy cash-back

fairfora:
You're right( valid for british citizens ONLY) but in a global pandemic as this, vis a vis their profession, an non-british citizen can also apply for one by contacting the embassy. I'm quite aware of a tier-2 visa very well.

Please read the below for more.

https://www.gov.uk/world/organisations/british-high-commission-abuja.

I did a screenshot capturing it as below as well.

Bro this is not the same, you are misinterpreting that link.

You may be a UK resident but not a British citizen which is what that link is referring to.

People holding Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR) who are stranded abroad or lost their biometric visa card abroad can apply for ETD but a foreigner with no link to the UK can not apply for ETD to travel to the UK.

Those doctors are coming to the UK to work and its not an emergency situation.

If you are a Nigerian studying in the UK and lost your passport or it got stolent when visiting Nigeria you can contact the British embassy to get the visa reissued or some ETD to allow you renter the UK.

Lexusgs430:
Rather than Amazon, take a trip to Dixons........ Use in store credit facilities..........

Or use ebay, but apply for PayPal credit.......

Whats good about their credit card? They have being bugging me to take one

fairfora:
Yes sir

They can not use such document to travel to the UK as they are not British citizens.

ETD are not issued to foreigners.

Those doctors needs tier 2 visa to travel and work in the UK, there is nothing emergency here.

fairfora:
But each of them was in possession of an ETD. In a situation like this, medical personnel can travel without a visa ,same applies to envoys and diplomats. The ETD had already covered them. The Nigerian government was only afraid of reactions which could trail this, should they be allowed to travel. Maybe if they were 5 people max, there couldn't have been an issue. The number was intimidating especially in such a global pandemic as this when countries are recalling retired medics to help them due to inadequacy in the number of medical personnel.

It would have been a disgraceful thing and santions would have been applied by those International organisations planning to send covid-19 relief funds to Nigeria. The immigration just saved our govt the global disgrace, especially with the recent news of lagos state govt sacking frontline workers at isolation centres when the number wasn't even enough. What the immigration said about visa didn't hold water because even if you're in possession of a valid visa , they could still prevent you from travelling due to one reason or the other. I have a colleague who's an anaesthetist. A couple of foreign airlines still operate here and Turkish is one of them. His visa had expired buy was issued an ETD being a medical doctor.

You mean Emergency travel Document?

laiperi:
You know if you hate insult from ignoramus, stay away from social media.
But sometimes you are compelled to correct misinformation. Otherwise you care more about your prestige than the country.

Just imagine the question below. Simple information he could get where he is.

I haven't read or come across any understandable places in the UK that treat foreign doctors badly , you made the allegation and i'm asking you to provide an evidence to back that up.

Let me pretend as if i did not see your insult

SAMDEEA123:
Sincerely, I had to go back to the TLS website to check when I saw that. The comment just reminded me of one of my friend who will call me to ask when we dey apply for Visa na, abeg tell me so we go book appointment the same day. And I doubt if she is going. Lol

I really don't know why people can not chill and wait until the visa application starts properly.

Sanitizer:
No. I have filled all information on Gov.uk website remaining to pay before I will be redirected to tlscontact website. I want to know if it's okay paying for visa and IHS pending when TLScontact starts receiving new application.

Not a good idea

laiperi:
This thread is a typical example of individual contribution to corruption while blaming the other guy.

Most of those that get into professional schools in Nigeria are the children of the rich and well connected. I hasten to say it is also true in Western countries. But the children of the poor that get in Nigeria are not as committed to Justice for the deprived areas as they are in the States.

Moreover, it is the parents of these well connected children that mess up the country in the first place. Now their children are blaming the rest of us for not providing them enough money to live the looted life their parents provided them.

It gets worse because the children of the poor that are brilliant and could not be refused entry into professional schools join the spoiled brats club.

So in pursuit of money, any Agent that understands the greed mentality of our youth can charter a plane and dump them into slave labor market. The Agent does not even have to be as smart as them but streetwise.

Some of you know how these young doctors are treated in the villages to encourage them to stay. The love, respect and kindness showered on them compared to the underserved areas they are recruited to in Western countries. They drive down wages of Western doctors because they are not regarded as real doctors, they are abused and used in any role.

But eh, they make more money than in Nigeria! This disturb those that left the same Western countries and come home to serve.

Can you give an example of such situation in the UK or any other western countries? As far as i know there is no understandable area in the UK that a Dr will be dumped and treated badly

Vik15:
pls university of Bradford wrote on my admission letter that I would need to have paid 50% of total tuition fee at enrollment and the rest in installment.
my question is if i have just 30% at the point enrollment, would i be allowed to enroll?
Do people get sent back to their country on this?

Thanks for your response as its going to help me take decisions.

If you can not even afford to pay 50% is an indication that you don't have the money to meet the financial requirement to start with.

How will you convince the embassy that you can afford to study in the UK if you are unable to deposit 50% school fees?

Sanitizer:
@JustWise

Good Morning.

Is it okay if I submit my visa application and pay for IHS and visa fee now pending when I can book for biometrics?

Has the embassy started accepting visa application?

Leopantro:
Make of it what you will.

BTW there will be a second and third batch

When they have a proper traveling document e.g tier 2 visa

Ishilove:
People believe what they want to believe. It's like a[b] sub-conscious desperate lunge at hope for a better life outside Nigeria.

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That is exactly when people are vulnerable to fishy scam like this.

Why would the agency desperately need 58 Drs from Nigeria without visa even to charter a flight to get them to the UK when coronavius case in the UK is going down daily and lock down lifted?

Leopantro:
I love your proud display of ignorance.
It's so entertaining.
Note the date please

So that tweet to you is an evidence of what?

KosiGee:
The letter didn’t claim to issue visa waiver to the doctors. It says NES will issue visa waiver LETTER and they have been in discussions with the Uk immigration according to the letter.

....but then NES or not, we are witnessing a large influx of Nigeria trained medical professionals. This has been going on for years now. The good news is that, these group of people work in some of the major adult and paediatric trauma centres...straight from Nigeria and they are doing really well hence why the recruitment agencies always come back for more Nigerians.

Universities Teaching Hospitals Oxford and Cambridge (Addenbrookes’s) employed up to 8 Nigerian radiographers in the past two years and some doctors as well and more are coming. Nhs hospitals in London will welcome a few more people once the lockdown is relaxed and international flights resume.

That is not possible, proof me wrong anywhere.

Recruitment agency has no power to issue visa waiver letter, its the responsibility of the UKBA to do that.


Yes i know that many Nigerians Drs have being coming to the UK recently to work before the pandemic, i know a Romanian friend who recruits for NHS, sometimes last year she sent me a whatsapp message asking me to help pass it on to Nigerians i know that are qualified.

KosiGee:
NES is a known recruitment agency for foreign trained doctors. Nigerian doctors are aware of the organisation.

Another two health care organisations where I’ve seen some Nigerians are Alliance Health and Inhealth...these two recruit radiographers.

I believe that those doctors would’ve called the office/management of NES before attempting to leave.
Maybe there’s something that’s missing from that report.
Personally, I’ve never heard of visa waiver in the Uk as I don’t work with Border control/Uk visa or have heard anyone who travelled without visa but I dismiss the attached document as fake.

I'm not going to dispute that fact but like i said before scammers use name of a legitimate business to scam unsuspecting individuals.

There is nothing like visa waiver program or special arrangement that will allow a recruitment agency to left 58 Drs from Nigeria to the UK without an agreement between Nigerian govt and the British.

This is fishy

K4daniel:
Baba na justwise you rubbish like This, this is too hash..Nobody knows the time it will commence because UKVI never stated such to commence without visa we only heard they will but not without a valid visa.

He said that out of ignorant, one need to be very very ignorant to believe that 58 will be allowed to travel to the UK with visa waiver without the consent of Nigerian government or even the immigration at the airport.

KosiGee:
I’m surprised at the negative comments and the childishness of some of posts.

NES healthcare is an authentic organisation. I know two doctors who graduated from Ibadan and ESUT who work with the NHS through them after successfully passing their PLABS.

This is a good time to work with the NHS if you are a doctor or Radiographer. If you are any of above, avail yourself of the endless opportunities and don’t listen to pessimists.

Yes scammers use legitimate companies to carry out their scam, reading that attachment I have a feeling that this is a scam.

murphyibiam15:
Illiterate read the attached image.. That's how Ignorant and naive most of u are

See attached screenshot

Did you read and understand the attachment? Did you realise that the recruitment agency has no power to issue visa waiver as they promised in that attachment?

This reminds me of crystal service scam in 2009 when about 8 thousand Nigerians were scammed with job in Canada, the recruiter was about to convince they to gather in national stadium to be picked up by chartered flight to Canada.

Yes among them were doctors, bankers, teachers etc all got scammed.

blank:
They had waiver letters to get visa on arrival when they arrived in UK. Visa offices are not open.

So why were they not allowed to travel then since such arrangement were made? NIS not aware of that?

hopesony:
Please, note that these 58 doctors were granted waivers by the UK government hence they sent the flight to come pick them. Initially had their visas and were billed to have travelled before international flight restrictions were imposed. This is a special waiver granted to these essential health workers because their services is highly needed by the NHS-UK. They already have jobx waiting for them.

Is like all of you spreading this lies are getting it from the same source.

Post any U.K government link to back up your false information .

thiagoteres:
Please put a phone call through to home office and verify.
Lots of policies were dynamic at the peak of pandemic.
health surcharge was scrapped by government for NHS workers,yet those applying for visa extension after the announcement still paid. They are only just been refunded now. Yet this bit is not on the government website.
I am certain of what I wrote .

Forget about NHS surcharge waiver and visa extension for NHS workers, we know about that and it was published on their website but this lies about visa waiver or visa on arrival takes the lies to another level

thiagoteres:
Some authorities are not open to correction and education.
I just shock as people can say rubbish with confidence.
People in the field are enlightening you on what likely transpired.
He is still forming immigration expert.

You are making things up as you go.

Provide a link to support your claim

RTSC:
I don't know if that is true or not

But I am sure moving to the UK as a doctor is easier right now than it has ever been.

Yes with tier 2 visa.

BrutalJab:
Your oversabi too much.


Why don't you calm down and learn?

There is nothing to learn here, you don't learn from lies.