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Fabulouzjoseph:
The world has changed. So don't expect things to remain thesame. Kids are now smarter and they is easy access to information. They is also contraceptive and birth control which is easily available so you can have sex without getting pregnant.

The answer is all here. Birth control has made the difference.....before, during and even after sex

HappyPagan:
Does that information matter? Maybe I shouldn't have put it there.

Maybe you shouldnt.....cos it looks like a ploy to boost the credibility of your message.

Kinda like the common...."A former Imam affirms that Jesus is lord......or A pastor converts to islam"

HappyPagan:
Ibeyomie says the coronavirus is just a scam our politicians are playing on us. His spiritual fathers, Oyedepo, Adeboye, and Oyakhilom all seem to share similar views. One of the fellows even asked Government to open churches so they can heal the sick. In a time when the government faces a looming recession, why shouldn't the spiritual be tested?


For me, as a former Christian, I see reason with them. It's hard to understand something you don't know, and when you encounter something you do not understand, you fall back on what you do know.

For years, these men have healed all manner of diseases - through them, the lame have walked, the blind have seen, and even the dead have been risen. They know Divine Healing - those hands have worked wonders where Western medicine has failed.

Unlike doctors whose knowledge only comes from man, spiritual healers have direct access to the one who created the human body..they have access to knowledge science can only imagine. I want government to support them, to let them gather.. wherever they choose to like they do during the conventions.



Gather them along with their church members, preferably between the Mountain of Fire and the Redeemed Camp. God's presence should be so thick there even Satan's prayers will be answered.

Gather the most spiritual of them - the prayer warriors, the choristers, the Elders, the Kings and Queens, let them gather themselves together and reach out to God. Arm them with Bibles and gallons of olive oil. Let them begin to pray.

Then send in a few of the covid cases for healing. I assure you those who are sick will be out in less than a week...not to talk of two weeks.



We need Christians to join hands and fight this scam once and for all. The doors of the Church can not continue to be closed by the hands of the Devil. The Devil doesn't want his people to gather because he knows there is power when the Saints gather...


My 2 Kobo.

Former christian?

MrPRevailer:
Don't fall for the global peace movement.

It's a trap.

Before nko....anything that tries to bring peace to the world is a scam and antichrist. All we want to hear is about wars and rumours of war !

We are becoming sadists and dont even realise it.

Wife material ko.... how you take measure the wife material? Which kain cloth? Rag?

Mydockay:
GOODLUCK BRO.... YOU KNOW MORE THAN US ALL FROM KENNETH HAGIN TO TD JAKES TO BENNY HINN ..... HOPE YOU'RE A BILLIONAIRE AND NOT SUFFERING THE CURSE OF ROBBING GOD

Some people dont even believe in God and they are billionaires. There are even muslim hindu buddhist and all strange religion billionaires....

To think that God will punish the one that believes in him with poverty while letting the unbelievers become billonaires is funny !

petra1:
SWEDEN did not do lockdown. . .

Why has everybody not been infected there ? This shows that lock down is not a scientific solution

It's a ploy to make nation economic slaves. Every state in Nigeria seem to be bidding for billions from W.H.O and bringing many fake cases . While the people protested they are not covid positive . A man had to bribe his way out of hospital when they detain him and his family for convid . He got another independedt doctor who got him tested and cleared him . He still had to bribe government officials heavily to release him . Another woman viral video also shows how she was detained for over a month I dont know if shes still there that she had covid just because she had a little temperature. She has refused their drugs ,they have out her face on the internet yet she was not positive. One month gone yet no symptom but they refused to let her go the state governor has used her to celebrate the first convid case in their state in a press conference as though they discovered oil well .

This is the concept of the lockdown. The covid 19 disease is suggested to expire in 14days by either recovery or death.

This means that if the only person in the community does not come in contact with another person in 14days; he will either recover or die which leaves every other person in the community free to move around.

The problem with the lockdown is it has not been total !. So the infected people still move around and spread it despite the lockdown which makes it a waste

petra1:
Covid 19 is not airborne sir . Except there is new information

Sorry for the mistaken terminology i simply meant it can be carried in the air from one person to another without actual physical contact between them which is not possible in ebola.

They are called respiratory droplets which can be inhaled while breathing

petra1:
More voices are coming up of the unscientific nature of lockdowns. Its easier to contact virus at lockdown homes than on the street. Sweden didnt have a lockdown . Yet the cases have reduced .

Ebola virus which seem to be more deadly was conquered without a lock down nor travel restrictions. But this virus with over inflated false figure has been used to lockdown economy of nations . Wxession and Depression looming .

Just incase you really dont know and incase you actually want to know; its about the mode of spread.

Covid 19 is spread in air by respiratory droplets while ebola is borne by body fluids.....

Covid 19 can be spread unknowingly when an asymptomatic carrier talks, sneezes, coughs.....

Ebola can only be spread when you contact body fluids which is much harder than covid particles moving in the air.

ublight:
ok, can we make a deal? I want to update this thread daily for the next few days. I would not like anybody to comment anymore, untill i come to the conclusion of this matter.

If you guys agree, then i will have to start tomorrow. Keep any questios u may have, as those questions will be answered during the process of updating the thread. But if after the thread is concluded, and u dont have your answers, u may go ahead to ask...only when i conclude.

If anyone interrupts the thread, thats the end.

On that condition we can safely assume the thread is as good as dead......cos someone will interrupt....either out of astonishment at a point u made, by mistake or deliberately to derail the thread....

And even if no one interrupts, otematum and geoworld will stroll in to say hi....

Nephilim:
Educative yet able to convince someone away from the church and Christianity.

True.....it does more to discourage than to motivate

EzeBenEphraim:
This thread is for the scattered 12 Tribes of Biblical Israel, of Niger/Kongo/Bantu heritage, to include Diaspora.

The emphasis of this thread is to bring out the ancient/hidden history and information of our Hebrew past.

In Nigeria, there are many Hebrew & Hebrew Israelite tribes! Some descend from Abraham’s 1st son Ishmael, while others descend from Isaac’s sons Esau and Jacob(Israel). In this thread, we will delve into this history.

Many of us have oral traditions, oral history, and the written history of our enemies & oppressors that point to our hidden Hebrew Israelite history.

We will also be focusing primarily on the Hebrew tribes of Y Paternal DNA E1B1A(Israelites), & E1A*/E1B1B the mixed/combined tribes of (Ishmael/Edom)

Please be sure to share content and links to PDF’s, books, Maps, videos, and blogs that help further our knowledge of our collective history.

Abraham had 8 other sons with keturah.....Do we know their descendants too?

ublight:
a wrongly taught christian

Many instances have been dropped on the page. Can you disprove them or not?

If you cant, just delete the thread. Many people are actually eager to see if you can logically defend this position.

All this your strolling around saying "wrongly taught christian, certainly not God" is not the detailed explanation you promised.

IMHO I dont think God wants anyone to cover up or defend him. He knows and stands by all the things he has done. He is God.... not a cute teddy bear.

He killed in sodom and gommorah
He killed the inhabitants of the then world by flood
He ordered the complete massacre of the amalekites and their animals too
He ordered the massacre of Jezebel and her family

He struck down Herod, annanias and saphira in the NT

He is God and he doesnt need your defence.

masterpiecedavid:
SOMEBODY HELP ME! I WANT TO PREACH TO BILL GATES BUT HE IS NOT LISTENING TO ME BY MASTERPIECE DAVID OLAWADE

I told Bill Gates that I'm filled with the Holy Ghost and I build up my most holy faith praying in the Holy Ghost but he told me he didn't pray in tongues yet he had faith that polio can be eradicated in Nigeria within two years and it happened according to his believe and resources. He told me he needed a mind blowing evidence that my faith has produced.

I told him that I have the healing anointing but he asked me how many sick have I healed because he does not have the healing anointing yet he has sponspored medical outreaches that saw to the healings of chronic disease outbreaks in nations.

I proceeded to tell him God is able to supply my needs according to his riches in glory but he said his needs are met and he is meeting the needs of others without being under any pressure.

He asked me if truly I'm the seed of Abraham because he is already lending to nations while he is yet to see me demonstrate the reality of abundance and I'm yet to really lend to my family.

He said my divine wisdom is questionable if by now I can't come up with an idea that would be solution to the need of generations and he asked me what's happening to believers like me with prophetic unctions but can't download ideas in the spirit to solve the problems of humanity.

He reminded me that he was not in the spirit neither was he fasting when he thought through the idea of "Microsoft" and nations including believers are benefitting from it.

I told him I'm not relenting in making men hungry and thirsty for God as I also give myself to fasting. He reminded me of people in different places across the world that fast momentarily because they have no food to eat, they are thirsty because they have no potable water to drink and he has become a savior to them with his poverty alleviation scheme.

Listen to me, there are some things our spirituality lacks that has made us lose relevance in our generation.

If the peak of your purpose in life is what someone can help me to achieve by their own status, personality and resources then it is not divine.

Imagine someone saying, his purpose on earth is just to have a secondary school which he has been fasting and praying for. That purpose, an unbeliever has explored the realities without fasting and someone who is not born again can help to fulfill it with his resources without bringing God to the picture.

Hope you know that about 75% of the world's wealth is controlled by about 10% of individuals who are not even believers. Please, where are the Solomons of this generation who will be custodians of wealth and through prosperity make the kingdom of God spread abroad.

You are praying and fasting to get a job at that esteemed N.G.O, hope you know that N.G.O is someone's idea and he is not as spiritual as you are. Why can't you also be an employer of men by reaching heaven to get an idea no man has ever conceived before?

Where are the Josephs of my days with creative ideas that their nations would be at their mercy?

Brother, that testimony of miracle job you said you got should make you think deeply because the CEO and Human Resource Manager of that company doesn't even believe in miracles.

The decrees of our political leaders and men at the top of affairs in parastatals can be an hindrances to the prayer of many saints due to the position they occupy yet we are not bothered for losing our space and inheritance.

How have we forgotten so soon that one of the assignments our master gave us was to disciple nations? Where can I find the Daniels of my generation who understand times and seasons to the extent of telling kings how to direct the affairs of nations? Where are the political scientists who are believers but don't know they have the knowledge for a time like this?

The economy of our nation is crashing by the day yet God can't find an anointed man who will request for a solution that would be a patent to deliver our economic crisis and other nations. Where are the anointed economists who have forgotten why they were privileged to read economics on campus? So disappointing that they are looking for microphone to preach when God needs them to be a voice and invade that sector.

We are tired of wasting anointed Doctors and Pharmacists who have navigated pathways in the spirit but lack relevance in their field. How come they can't have revelations of how to get cure for terminal diseases? Have they ever told God to tell them the reason for a particular disease and they are tired of watching people die daily of it?

Can't someone tell God to make him or her a legal voice to restore sanity to our society? Listen to me ma, you are not just a barrister to make a living and to be comfortable, God can use you to bring our nation out of pool of lawlessness.

How come spirit filled believers can't see inventories and get ideas for innovations in the spirit but can see phone numbers and the names of household enemies disturbing a man?

The answer to the prayers for our nation is the rise of men from among us that would take their place in God's agenda for our nation. You can be that man we have been waiting for. You can be the answer to the prayers of multitudes of saints.

That young child in that village may not have to die of hunger if you arise, that patient in the ward can live again if you emerge, those that aren't guilty of any crime may not need to be convicted again if you locate your space.

I don't know about you but this has been my own prayer lately; "Lord send me a message and give me errands. Tell me what you desire to do in my generation that no one is paying attention to and find me worthy to do it".

Let us pray!

Educative piece

@op

This is just hatred !

Muslims obviously cannot do any good in your own eyes.

This level of fear and paranoia cannot be of God o.....

How many years do u have to live in this life that you will spend it being fearful of ur own shadow. The whole community is out to get us.

The only people that fear this much are criminals o. Haba! All men must die las las

CAPSLOCKED:
I'VE BEEN IN THE MIDDLE OF OVER 5 MAJOR RELIGIOUS CRISIS IN 3 DIFFERENT CITIES IN THE NORTH. UNFORTUNATELY, I WASN'T THERE WHEN CHRISTIANS WERE IN CHARGE OF SLAUGHTERING INFIDELS.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS, DESPITE THAT THESE TWO ARE CLOSELY RELATED, AS LONG AS THIS FORUM IS CONCERNED, MUSLIMS DON'T TROUBLE ANYBODY THE WAY CHRISTIANS DO. I SUPPORT THE PROTECTION OF THEIR SEPARATE SECTIONS. NOTHING WILL CHANGE IT.

We dont want anything to change the islamic arrangement. Weldone on that!

All we are asking for is a similar arrangement. Dont treat christians like out casts. Give us equality.

We dont want you to take away the muslim board. We just want a christian board too

Regardless of whatever reasons nairaland may have; just give us equality

A separate board for muslims
A separate board for christians

And

The general religion page for wars and battles

joinpreneur:
Glory!
Realities in Christ whoever doubts it needs a deliverance by the word.

They need deliverance by personal experiences. That is where christianity lacks sometimes.......People have heard and heard but there will always be room for doubt till you experience the supernatural.

No one can convince the op and ftc that there is no God anymore or Jesus doesnt heal. Cos they have personal experiences.

Even if you sit them down and rain down logic and big bang theories and all sorts of things that make complete logical and scientific sense; they will still be convinced of God.

That is what everyone needs from the church.....a personal supernatural encounter !

jared007:
The truth is many of them would turn to Christ after the rapture and God's judgement on Earth. The series of events that would be happening would make many of them believe in Jesus.

You guys always forget that many more people have already died than the number that will experience the rapture and tribulations.

The percentage of persons that ever lived that will participate in the great tribulation is low. If you realise that, you will stop taking the rapture so seriously. Everyone meets his own rapture when he dies.

The greater majority of muslims will die in islam than those that will see tribulation....talkless of converting due to tribulations

Christians make up 29percent of the world population.... which means the "hypocrites" make up 71percent....

Anyone blaming the 71percent super majority for not believing should not be taken seriously

The 71percent cant even become humble cos they dont even believe in the first place

No single religion has a monopoly on conspiracy theories.

Lets all keep singing about how people are out to get us because of our religion.

paxonel:
this your first statement is correct
this your second statement contradict your first statement, therefore it has nothing to do with the first.

Lets understand what you are saying.
Accepting christ as your lord and savior is one thing.
Do you accept christ by living rightly like christ?
If yes, what do you say about muslims or atheists who lives rightly like christ, are their souls won like that?

Romans 10.9-10 says it all;
Steps to be saved....

1. If thou shalt confess Jesus as LORD
2. Believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead

John 3.16 says those that believe in him will not perish....

Thats all.... Anyone that believes is a christian as long as he continues to believe.

So an armed robber and kidnapper that already believes in Jesus is a christian.....an irresponsible, uncommitted one at that but he believes.....


The souls we should be celebrating that we are winning should be those that did not previously believe.

Living like christ should be as a result of believing in christ and being saved....not the criteria or steps to take to be saved. As you said there can be holy muslims and buddhist and hindu living like christ in the sense of the word but do not believe

The roman catholics have queer doctrines that were no doubt affected by the cultures around which christianity grew in those days. Like normal religions of rhe day, it is full of rites and rituals.

Either way, they believe that God raised Jesus from the dead. They are christians not cultists.

In many years the current denominations will also be established on strange rites.... some with their battle praying styles, others centred around prayer mountains, holy waters, anointing oils.... thats how it starts....

Dtruthspeaker:
I repeat that morality is Always about Right and Wrong in all human affairs and after all the Rights and Wrongs, there must be a Judge and there is a judge who shall settle all that is Right and all that is Wrong, in this Right and Wrong world.

And it is Always Amazing that Everything the Bible said would Happen, Did happen. Buddha or anyone hasn't beaten the Bible on predictions.

Freewill won't be freewill if people are not allowed to accept or reject any thing and all I am doing is to lay out the facts for everyone to come to an informed opinion. Their decision is truly theirs to make freely as i, mine.

The atheist believes that there is no one judge that settles anything about right and wrong. The idea being that whether you spend your life doing good or bad, you will die and it all ends there.

Right and wrong, Morality all ends in the grave.

The atheist believes no one will be rewarded for doing good things and no one will be punished for doing bad things. Your morality is personal, You do good or bad because you feel like and not because you are afraid of something or because you are expecting a reward.

The bible speaks against it. If you believe the bible then there is no twisting it. You either obey or disobey.

If you dont believe the God of the bible then there's no argument; No one is forcing sexual behaviours on anyone. You can do whatever you like.

Dtruthspeaker:
You've brought in the issue of Law and Morals which is actually argued "law-making man or man making laws and Morals.

For morals is Always about Right and Good while Law is Always about that which is Allowed/Allowable and that which is Prohibited.

Morals and Right and Good every soul knows but the isn't really about this, it is rather always about God's Laws commonly called Natural Law and man's law/man's-wants law.

If you look at the nature of God's Laws you would see that there are 3 categories;1) Unbreakable Laws e.g (man shall live on the earth and not in the sea as a fish) 2) Breakable Laws e.g (do not kill/steal etc) and 3) what I call Discretionary Laws e.g (love your neighbour, Do Good etc).

On the other hand man only has one type of law which is a combination of the 2 of God's type of Law which is Breakable/Discretionary Laws Only.

And it is from this basis he foolishly challenges the Most High and All His Laws.

Before man was Law and the Law had set everything, but because man hath some power to against the Law, therefore he Rebels against the Law.

"recourse to its consequence on fellow humans." Where did All the Rights and Power and ability of Man come from? Who gave it to Him? What man baby or adult brought any right/power/ability with him when he born? Or which man made or manufactured himself, by himself?

It is Natural Law or God's Law who hath done everything.

Therefore by the Supreme Law of God do we speak and declare the things which hath been from the beginning and that which shall be at the end, but none of us is Judge of these things, Only the Most High.

And His Judgements, (like many things) in His Goodness, He has even Foretold How It Shall Be and in what manner it shall be, long and in advance. Like pre-knowing the judgement of a Court.

The Most High has already declared His Hatred for all things Evil and they are all listed down in the Bible eg calling He who is Good, evil, Rebellion, inventors of evil things, pervasion of judgements, rebrobate minds, men leaving the Natural use of woman, burning in lust one man to another and taking in themselves that which is unseemly, changing the Truth of God into a lie, worshiping and serving the creation rather than the Creator etc. Romans 2:21-30; Romans 2:8

Your argument is neat but will only make sense to someone who already believes in the very things you keep quoting and paraphrasing.

If this is meant to convince an unbeliever that all morals come from God then you still have a long way to go. However if you plan to say your own and let God do the convicting and convincing then you are fine.

All these "The most high declared his hatred on......" is not morality in the human sense unless you force all of us to believe in this Most high and consequently agree that he alone can decide what is right and wrong.

The atheist believes that the most high does not get to choose what is right and what is wrong and that is the basis of the whole thread.

One thing believers should remember is that quoting scriptures and saying things strictly from bible perspective only makes sense to you because you were brought up in it.

If a buddhist started drawing assertions from his religious book it will sound like gibberish to you and ofcourse you wont believe a single point he is making.

In the next 100years, this generation will be wiped off..... We will all likely be dead by then....

This generation will die just like the generation before it and the generation after it because all men must die eventually.

This generation will be wiped out by death like all other generations no matter how wonderful they were......nothing stops death.

Some members of this generation will chop their own "wipe off" today....others tommorow......and it goes on and on and on..... because thousands of people die every day; infact it is estimated that 150,000 people die every day....

For those people their generation is over and their rapture and end of the world is here.

Dtruthspeaker:
But morality is based on that which is right and good and check it out, is there anything which you have seen to be good which God had ever said Don't do?

God, through the Bible is telling us All the things that we can do, that is Good, Most especially as He has seen and we ourselves have seen that people on earth Love to Do that which is not good, even up to that which is Wicked above and much more than that which is good not to talk of that which is very good.

The Bible gives us the 2 scenarios,1) that which was good which made everyone Happy including God and made satan very sad/angry and 2) that which was not good which brought about tears and made God sad/angry and which made satan very happy.

The line of morality is crossed when rules are made without recourse to its consequence on fellow humans.

Any rule or law against an activity that has no negative consequence on fellow humans is unnecessary.

Such rules and laws that prevent peoples of other religions from openly eating during the fasting of another religion is selfishness.

A criminal law against groups like LGBT for instance is not moral as their actions do no have negative consequences on those around them.

Death can happen at anytime. Regardless of ur obsession with RAPTURE you are likely to die before it happens.

Your concept of "things are so bad right now" is limited by what you think has happened on earth in the past.

Nothing spoke end time more than World war 2......yet it passed.....various pandemics....wars....they all passed.

The eventual events that herald the coming of Jesus will likely be worse than COVID in which more than 50percent of infected persons will recover without even knowing they were infected.

Dtruthspeaker:
Right and wrong is the basis of All Damning Judgement and it is going to be done by the Highest Court of the Earth, by the Very King/Lord/President of ALL the Earth HIMSELF, Christ Jesus.

The first Court is man proclaiming to his fellow man that which is Right and Wrong, then the structural courts of man and Finally, the Court of the Most High, The Owner of the World.

Is it not commonly said among you "my house, my Rule?" Therefore His House, His Rule!

And we have the advantage that the Bible has laid down for us All His Rules and His Judgements.

He who keeps the Law suffers no Condemnation of the Law

True....just want to state that "my house my rule" does not mean morality..... Any rule that has no bearing on its consequences on man is not moral.

In Saudi Arabia women arent allowed to drive cars. This doesnt make driving of cars by women immoral and bad.

Its just a law and anyone who breaks it will be punished by the highest possible law in the land.