₦airaland Forum

pansophist:
What about Dual nationals with Nigerian and Togolese passports, does it count? ;

So man, dual nationality, even triple nationality doesn't mean shit, it is the quality of the nationality that matters. A quick question. Which will you pick? A Swedish passport only, or a triple citizenship (Nigerian, Togolese, and Afghanistan passport)?


I get your point sha. Just want to whine your nipple small

. You are very funny but on point. Lol

zubizareta:
Lol. You need to see the evidence to believe? As per you doing me a favour? Issorait. You can choose to believe what you want. I have written SOP for someone that was initially refused visa and in the reapplication they did a GIC. The person was from this same nairaland. Also I have read somewhere when a detailed step to get GIC done was stated here using your dorm acct.

Please don't take it personal, it is not a fight. I'm interested in it because I want to do it. All the banks are talking of SDS eligibility. Do you mind saying which bank was involved and the process? Thanks

zubizareta:
Nigerians have done GIC successfully from Nigeria here.

I need to see the evidence to believe. GIC for international students are for those living legally in countries participating in Student Direct Stream SDS program.

https://www.td.com/ca/en/personal-banking/solutions/student-banking/international-student-gic

The countries are China, India,Brazil, and some other countries. Nigeria is not among. Any Nigerian doing it would have to be a legal resident of these countries. This is what I saw on all Canadian bank website.

If you have evidence to show otherwise, please show me cos I'm interested in doing GIC for my sibling

zubizareta:
Since you have paid your tuition. Why not do GIC and explain source of your funds in your sop. With this, your tuition and living expenses taken care of. Your challenge will be how you will put out your economic and home ties to be strong and convincing that you will return to Nigeria after your study

I thought GIC is for some selected countries and Nigeria is not among? Has things changed? Which bank is doing GIC for people in Nigeria?

odogwu4real:
I have a visit visa to Canada already, issued this month. My brother invited me and presented his statement, international passport and employment letter for that purpose and visa was granted. But now he advised me to apply for school so I can put in for study permit to be able to remain in Canada. Initially, in my visit visa application I put that I will only be staying only 4weeks. Now that I am trying to switch from visit visa to study permit, I am worried if that will be an issue.

You can use the visit visa to your advantage. Why not go to Canada, spend like 3 weeks and return to Nigeria if you can afford it. This will give the VO assurance of your ability to return home especially important since you have ties in Canada.
Having siblings in Canada is already a disadvantage. You need to prove twice as hard than someone without siblings in Canada that you will return at the end of your studies cos you already have an incentive to stay back.

gforce5:
OP, Nigerians have what is called a 'crabs in a bucket' syndrome. They don't want their fellow countrymen to succeed. They want to be the gate keepers to success. As Gerrard rightly said, majority of the Nigerian elite either have second passports or properties abroad. Most of their children don't go to school in Nigeria. The ones abroad who are discouraging Nigerians from coming over there are noise makers. They want to be seen as the only Nigerians abroad. 95% of them already have already acquired the citizenship of their host countries. Ask them to renounce their foreign citizenship and return home, they can't do it. A lot of them have nothing to show for all the years they were living abroad so their best bet is to de-market the country they are based in.

Staying in Nigeria is not an issue. The real problem is staying in the country without a plan B which is why it is imperative that Nigerians try to secure dual nationality by any means necessary. I lived in Europe for many years before relocating to Nigeria in 2014 with a second passport to boot butI would never discourage anyone from JAPAIing in order to create the same opportunities for themselves. Most of the elites don't believe in Nigeria and only see it as a cash out venture. It's the masses who are the most patriotic.

Your last sentence is wrong in my opinion. There is no genuinely patriotic Nigerian. If there are, they aren't more than 1%.
The masses appear patriotic because they have no option not because they are genuinely patriotic. Once they have they same opportunity they elites have, their behavior will change instantly.
As a people, our mentality and character is fatally flawed. I have studied a lot of other countries to arrive at this conclusion. That is why it will be almost impossible to get a better country than we already have, unfortunately. I wish I could be wrong on this.

quadraheem:
Unfortunately, a lot of people have sold out all their entire lives(homes and businesses) here in Nigeria before they move abroad.
God willing, Nigeria shall be great again!

Sometimes I don't really blame people who sold properties to travel. Some of them Nigeria has happened to them. When Nigeria happens to you, it can radicalize your thinking.

A guy in my former estate spent a month during this past Christmas period in the hospital, what happened? His wife was driving him in his car while he was making a business call, he didn't realize when they were passing an army checkpoint when a soldier saw him making a call. They pulled him out of the car, collected his iPhone and smashed it on the floor. He asked them what his offense was and that was it. They beat him blue black, took him to their barrack for days and tortured him. The wife called everyone she knows in this life for help but none came, even the police didn't want to get involved as they don't want army wahala.
When he was later released, he spent a month in hospital escaping death by the whiskers.

There was no investigation, justice, compensation, nothing. The guy nearly died just like that in the hands of the state. Is there any law that forbids someone making a call cos they are passing police or army roadblocks?

When he recovered, the wife told him it is time to relocate abroad. They inquired and decided on the UK. He sold some of his assets to fund the move. They are in the UK now

Some of these people who sell their properties to move abroad don't do it with a clear eyes, some do it in reaction to something that had happened to them that radically changed their thinking.

ednut1:
any one can be gay, lesbian or whatever. No one cares. My male oga at work has a husband and e no concern us. But this trans ideology trying to get kids to take puberty blockers, hormone blockers, cutting off breast or penis ehn. Kilode 😀. We grew up with tom boys in Nigeria. Today most of them have left that. But if na here they will be brainwashed into changing sex. On youtube there are many of these kids that transitioned that are now crying out. The artificial vagina they gave them is now closing up or getting infected 🤣🤡.

I watched one Piers Morgan show where One gay and Lesbian were blasting one queer and transgender. They accused them of bringing ridicule to their community. The gays and lesbians are angry with these trans and other additions. I laugh tire that day

soojar:
Exchange rate today
N1 = 553 CAD

Wao! This is unbelievable. I know say one day Nigeria go make us proud. Let me go and buy naira sharply

ednut1:
https://www.kxan.com/lgbtq/poll-nearly-20-of-gen-z-say-they-identify-as-lgbtq/amp/ its doubling per decade o

Interesting. I'm waiting for the day I'll meet someone who will say they are. I hope I don't loose my cool that day

NuCypher:
The school, the society and parents help raise every child. There may be no chance to "shove it down their throats in schools", but there'll be numerous chances to shove it down their jugular in the society. If you teach your kids what they need to know and you are actively present in their knowledge gathering, it won't matter whether you send them to a catholic school or not. Living in the Canadian society is enough LGBTQIA+ influence in itself.

You are right. In today's world, parents will play the biggest role in how a child turns out. This is why parents need to show good examples to their children and earn their trust. If parents establish a solid parent child relationship bond, they will trust and believe you better than their teachers. Parents need to be involved in their children life teaching them good and bad from beginning and guiding them to the right part. They will be tolerant of others with their nonsense since it is now part of the world we live in but they won't subscribe to their views cos they are emulating their parents.

I think what is happening in schools depends on the ideology of the teachers. Schools that have teachers into those nonsense or sympathetic to the nonsense tend to try to push it to children but schools that don't have don't bring it up. My kids go to catholic school and up till now, I haven't seen anything bad going on. I follow their curriculum and notes bumper to bumper because of this nonsense.

My kids tell me what they learnt in school. In some topics where there is a potential to chip the nonsense in, I inquire deeply to see what they were told, so far so good. It seems there is none of those people in their school and I pray it remains so. My kids already know about this nonsense, I have already told them about it and we had a long discussion on it. The trick I think parents should adopt is tell them and get them exposed to it before someone or the society tells them first. Because if they society tells them first, they will paint it like a good thing and make it enticing but if you tell them first, they will hate it and because they are aware, they can't be swayed when they society introduces it to them.

But then, I still want to believe that the only people who will be influenced by that lifestyle are people who are naturally inclined to it. Any normal person will be disgusted with it no matter the preaching. The only way any normal person will subscribe to it is if they point a gun at them.

Despite all the noise, the percentage of these kind of people will not and will never be up to 5% of the population even if they shove it on people's throat. That's why I'm not worried.

francophone134:
I feel you. Is the audacity for me?

Maybe somebody needs to be gingered to take the horn by the bull

AdesheO:
This was actually why I added my sister as well because I felt leaving it out was material. I had also done research on caselaw (in situations where visa was rejected based on strong ties) regarding listing a sibling in an application for study permit and judges had in all instances ruled that ties in canada should not be used as a negative evaluation factor. I also wrote a strong SOP as well given that I was a frontline covid healthcare worker the intended course was to build on that.

You did the right thing. VO's sometimes intentionally do these things probably because they think the person will give up and not challenge their decision.
If they deny you again based on ties, go to judicial review, they will likely settle even before the case goes for hearing cos they know they will loose. There are enough legal rulings on that.
I have only 1 sibling still in Nigeria and I want to sponsor to school in the next few months. Since all of us in Canada are citizens except 1 who is still a PR, I know ties will be a problem in her application. So I have spent time researching on JR cases that are decided on ties cos I Know IRCC will likely not issue that visa without a fight. We will be ready for them.

Zane2point4:
A very big lie, you ppl think too much of these pppl as if they’re robbots that detects everything!

I have seen this happen many times ,yet nothing,still progress.

My brother. I'll rather do the right thing and be truthful than lying to get a temporary visa. It is better they deny her and she takes them to judicial review and win than to lie and get the visa.
Note that the repercussion of a fraudulent act does not manifest immediately. About 600 Indian students were deported months ago after years in Canada because of fake documents. They were trying to get a post graduate work permit when the fraud was detected, they are in India now. No Canada, US,UK and Australia for them first the next 10 years.
Study visa is a temporary visa and the background checks isn't as rigorous as when you are applying for PR and citizenship . At that time, all the misrepresentation and lies will be detected. Why risk it?

Zane2point4:
Someone have meticulously answered the fund aspect for you and i beleive him,i think theres a lump sum in the acct without any explanation!

Buh the main issue is the ties you’ve in canada.
If you hv made enough research or watch u tube videos even in nairaland ,you shldnt hv even pointed out you have sister in canada,that is shooting yourself in the foot.

Thirdly many agents are just thrash, mine was directly responsible for my first denial! He just did nonsense sop and document and submitted!

Second time i used my hand and made research and did the second application without gcm note and still got!

Whaattt!!!
Not stating you have a sibling in Canada when you have one is misrepresentation. If they find out, it is a ban not even refusal

Enculer2:
Very good point you raised. Everyone is an IT "expert". LOL. So what is your area of specialisation ?

Big Data- Apache Hadoop, Spark and MongoDB

AirBay:
They never listen, it is the same in calgary. Why do people pay 2-3k for scrum an ba courses to non approved individuals. The tutor will promise them jobs, 6months down the road dm still dy hustle skip

Unfortunately it's becoming annoying. Almost everyone in IT with little experience these days is looking for who to teach and make money of them. Giving people false hope of getting jobs after parting with their hard earned money.

Someone I know in the field contacted me early this year asking if I could join hands and set up this tutor business, I declined. My conscience will not allow me, it is a rip off.

StJohnKml:
Got the CBSA notes today.
I doubt if my account statement was checked properly before the VO served me breakfast because the reason for refusal doesn't make a logical sense to me. I might be wrong though, afterall logical sense no carry me reach anywhere laslas😁

I applied for the CBSA notes Free of Charge.
Big shout out to the nairalander that gave the detailed steps.

How long did it take to get it?

Ayobamiaz:
How Va bro please did your do the paid own for your GCMS note or the free one ..I couldn’t make payment for the paid so I used the ATIP CBSA..how long did it take to get your note ..I await your reply thanks

I thought you can only apply for gcms notes directly if you are a citizen, PR or inside Canada else you have to apply through a third party that would then get it on your behalf.

Are you saying it is possible to apply for CBSA for free from Nigeria?

Dessymond394:
Thanks..
I did notarized sponsorship letter in the last application. I added my brother attestation of birth/ age declaration(in place of his birth certificate,cos his birth certificate was missing) added a recent pic of both of us, he paid 11500cad for school fee deposit already as at the Last application and I added a notarized gift deed, 2 transfer proof of 400k each to me in the past as past evidence of financial assistance and a notarized affidavit of relationship... I guess m good to go..

My brother from what you wrote, it seems you did everything right, I don't see any gaps here. I will say reapply and explain again through an LOE. If they deny based on this reason again, go for Judicial review. Lawyers will like this case cos it looks straightforward.

Dessymond394:
Hello guys
What is the best way to tackle this refusal reason from GCMS note..
I need various answers.
Urgent replys needed.

Did you provide your brother's birth certificate showing you have the same parents?

By the way, how long did it take to get this GCMS note?

Slimboss042:
It's PPR guys
Third time applicant. Finally God did it
First refusal January 6 2023
Second refusal march 29 hmmmm

Repackaged and reapplied the third time
Submission may 3rd.
PPR may 18th. Truly what God cannot do does not exist. Keep trusting God yours is the next.


Please someone should add me to university of manitoba WhatsApp group please.

Congrats.
Please can you say why you were refused initially and how you solved the issue so others can continue to enrich their knowledge on the happenings in the visa process. Thanks

akinloluazeez:
My GCMS notes for my first application is attached below.
Anyone who wish to guide me though my second application?

Bank not verifiable is a micro finance
Fixed deposit 18.5 M
2years Post graduate diploma

I’m planning to do a new POF to my GTB (Salary account). Print Statement in few wks time and submit my application with explanation that I’ve liquidated the fixed deposit to a verifiable financial institution.

Anyone who can throw more light on this will be appreciated.

How long did it take to get the GCMS notes from the day you applied?

I think the VO is concerned about the source of fund as there is a mismatch between your earnings and your account. You may need a detailed explanation to overcome his concerns

Bobomaigida:
Okay.

I have seen a JR work out positively for someone ( RollyA )on this thread. Sometimes the process is fast sometimes it is not, what happens when you get a favorable judgement, is your application will be given to another VO to review.
Dependind on how strong your case is IRCC can request for a settlement without fighting it in immigration court.
You can reach out to profile name in brackets for advice, I know she did a JR and won or just search "judicial review" on the thread to see posts about it.

Thank you very much

Bobomaigida:
You can send a reconsideration request to see if they can take a second look at it, then once you get your GCMS notes you can seek for judicial review which I believe you can afford.

The issue is not the length of the programme, I suspect the VO just held to the fact that he has siblings abroad to deny him, then added the other refusal reasons to cover his/her decision.

Thanks for your input.
Unfortunately reconsideration requests are given to the same officer that made the initial decision for another look and due to pride and not wanting to own up to mistakes, the maintain their initial decision. He tried that after first refusal.
I think this will end up in judicial review. Do you have an idea of how that process goes or have you seen anyone use that option and succeed?

Hello Everyone,

Please has anyone gotten study permit with a one year Masters program? It looks to me like more people are getting visas with a college program than Master's degree..

My cousin who intend to do a one year Masters program in University of Waterloo got rejected for the 2nd time. School fees for the entire program (45,000 cad) has been fully paid, he submitted his savings and investment accounts which has more than enough for his living expenses for more than 1 year, apart from that he added his brother's account who is his sponsor.
So in terms of finance, he submitted his sponsor and his own personal savings and investment accounts which has more than enough money, no lump sum in any of the accounts.
Now, all his siblings are in Canada as citizens and PR, he is the only one remaining in Nigeria apart from the parents.
The reasons for his refusal are:
1. Insufficient financial and assets which is surprising as school fees is fully paid and living expenses shown is more than enough. No lump sum
2. Not having substantial family ties outside Canada. Yes all siblings are in Canada but should he be punished for that? Besides, parents are still in Nigeria
3. The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with temporary stay. I don't understand given that his program aligns with his education and work experience for his career growth.
Note he is newly married and spouse is not going with him which I think was a good home ties yet ......

According to GCMS, the first refusal was Insufficient financial situation and didn't establish relationship with sponsor who is his blood brother despite paid school fees and enough available funds for living expenses. This was addressed again in the 2nd application. I'm beginning to doubt if this VOs actually go through these applications.

I'm so much interested in his case cos my own last born is the only one remaining in Nigeria and I want to sponsor him next year so I'm following closely the success of my cousins application. I'm beginning to wonder if there are hidden reasons for refusal other than what they officially state cos some refusals don't make logical sense.

Please how do we proceed from here? Should he change from Masters to 2 year college program?

Lisa290:
I have been a member of this forum for sometime now and what I have observed was I have not seen any thread about life in China or steps to moving to China. China is a great country. Let's discuss

Moving to China to live permanently and raise a family?
Apart from buying and selling, import and export, China offers nothing to an average Nigerian. The rich Chinese themselves are all over the western world, e get why.
I tell people, if you must leave Nigeria, go to a place that is worth it and have a second home away from home not a place where you can't even do Facebook like China. I like my freedom more than any other thing abeg.

Spiff20:
Sometimes I wonder what you guys abroad are doing on nairaland. The grass is greener where you are, life is sweet, you are in heaven, earning well, living in the saner clime, what exactly are you doing in nairaland arguing and trying to drive home points about Japa or no Japa. Abi na boredom de worry una?

Wao! I'm seeing envy in your post. The question should be directed to you. This is travel section. It is mainly for those who reside abroad to share their tips and experience and those in Nigeria who intend to travel to get some valuable information.

People in Nigeria who don't like abroad or don't have any intention to travel shouldn't be on this travel section. When I was in that category, I didn't come into Travel section, it was a waste of time to me,I only started checking the travel section when I became interested to travel.

So why are millionaires like you who are comfortable in Nigeria and are not interested in traveling abroad doing in the travel section? Why should you guys bother about people packing shit abroad and be arguing about life abroad like it is your business?
Please answer

The major reason is that most people in that category start thinking and preparing about where they would be buried in the event of death.
Most Nigerians especially the more traditionally inclined ones don't want to die abroad.
So if after 40 to 50 years of residing abroad for example, you have enjoyed the system, the uninterrupted electricity, the good roads, the health care etc. Your children are well settled and now you are above 70 years and retired, the question is what else do you have to do abroad?
Knowing that at that age for instance, you are living the last stages of your life, if you don't want to be die abroad and give your children too much stress of moving your body back to Nigeria and you don't want to be buried in a foreign land, then the best option is to go back to Nigeria and spend the remaining part of your life.
Traditionally speaking, people want to go and return to their father land and not go and die in foreign land.
It happens in Nigeria too. For people who are not Lagos indigenes for example, they tend to leave their children in Lagos and retire to their village at old age. It is the same thinking.

Tadadobe:
I watched a video where someone explained how she spent up to #20M to Japa. Poor Nigerians cannot Japa. These are probably people earning #1M+ NGN. These are the people that will reach abroad and earn slightly higher than this. Their only consolation sometimes is to convert their earnings to naira and tell you "I earn more than a Bank Manager in Nigeria". Bro,is the cost of living in Nigeria and America the same?? And don't Riddle me with "Nigeria can happen to anyone". There are very well secured places in Nigeria. I have lived over 29yrs in Nigeria (South West) and I've never even seen a gun except with the police and army. I only ever use to hear cases of insecurities, I've really never meet the victims. I'm not saying insecurities does not exist, in fact, it is everywhere. But I trust Nigerian Never to share such news. Still remember my uncle told how he narrowly escaped being shot in Baltimore two years ago.

Japa wave is motivated by showoff and the feelings Nigerians have anytime people talk about "do you know XYZ is now in America". Couples with the prestige with which poor nigerian give them upon say Dem dey send dollars. Just emotions and vibes and snow pictures to pepper those who held them in high esteem at home

Why are you guys displaying so much negative energy over people who have traveled abroad? From one thread to another, same talk,same opinion, same anger over something that is not your business.
They sold their property to travel, yes,is it your property?
They quit their high paying jobs, yes, is it your job?
They are washing toilet abroad, yes,is it your toilet or are they using your hand to wash it?
They are paying too much bills, yes, is it your bill?
Guys, this anger over diasporans is becoming unnecessary. Make una no go commit suicide over somebody's else problem.
Face your business and stop bordering yourself over something that is none of your business.

This thread brought tears to my eyes. The state of Nigeria at the time this thread was made seems to be better than today. So in all these years, the country went backwards. Too bad.

You don't have money to take care of yourself in Canada like you claimed in your visa application, you don't have the strength to work and make money to survive. Wetin u want make we do naa?