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Zane2point4:
A very big lie, you ppl think too much of these pppl as if they’re robbots that detects everything!

I have seen this happen many times ,yet nothing,still progress.

My brother. I'll rather do the right thing and be truthful than lying to get a temporary visa. It is better they deny her and she takes them to judicial review and win than to lie and get the visa.
Note that the repercussion of a fraudulent act does not manifest immediately. About 600 Indian students were deported months ago after years in Canada because of fake documents. They were trying to get a post graduate work permit when the fraud was detected, they are in India now. No Canada, US,UK and Australia for them first the next 10 years.
Study visa is a temporary visa and the background checks isn't as rigorous as when you are applying for PR and citizenship . At that time, all the misrepresentation and lies will be detected. Why risk it?

Zane2point4:
Someone have meticulously answered the fund aspect for you and i beleive him,i think theres a lump sum in the acct without any explanation!

Buh the main issue is the ties you’ve in canada.
If you hv made enough research or watch u tube videos even in nairaland ,you shldnt hv even pointed out you have sister in canada,that is shooting yourself in the foot.

Thirdly many agents are just thrash, mine was directly responsible for my first denial! He just did nonsense sop and document and submitted!

Second time i used my hand and made research and did the second application without gcm note and still got!

Whaattt!!!
Not stating you have a sibling in Canada when you have one is misrepresentation. If they find out, it is a ban not even refusal

Enculer2:
Very good point you raised. Everyone is an IT "expert". LOL. So what is your area of specialisation ?

Big Data- Apache Hadoop, Spark and MongoDB

AirBay:
They never listen, it is the same in calgary. Why do people pay 2-3k for scrum an ba courses to non approved individuals. The tutor will promise them jobs, 6months down the road dm still dy hustle skip

Unfortunately it's becoming annoying. Almost everyone in IT with little experience these days is looking for who to teach and make money of them. Giving people false hope of getting jobs after parting with their hard earned money.

Someone I know in the field contacted me early this year asking if I could join hands and set up this tutor business, I declined. My conscience will not allow me, it is a rip off.

StJohnKml:
Got the CBSA notes today.
I doubt if my account statement was checked properly before the VO served me breakfast because the reason for refusal doesn't make a logical sense to me. I might be wrong though, afterall logical sense no carry me reach anywhere laslas😁

I applied for the CBSA notes Free of Charge.
Big shout out to the nairalander that gave the detailed steps.

How long did it take to get it?

Ayobamiaz:
How Va bro please did your do the paid own for your GCMS note or the free one ..I couldn’t make payment for the paid so I used the ATIP CBSA..how long did it take to get your note ..I await your reply thanks

I thought you can only apply for gcms notes directly if you are a citizen, PR or inside Canada else you have to apply through a third party that would then get it on your behalf.

Are you saying it is possible to apply for CBSA for free from Nigeria?

Dessymond394:
Thanks..
I did notarized sponsorship letter in the last application. I added my brother attestation of birth/ age declaration(in place of his birth certificate,cos his birth certificate was missing) added a recent pic of both of us, he paid 11500cad for school fee deposit already as at the Last application and I added a notarized gift deed, 2 transfer proof of 400k each to me in the past as past evidence of financial assistance and a notarized affidavit of relationship... I guess m good to go..

My brother from what you wrote, it seems you did everything right, I don't see any gaps here. I will say reapply and explain again through an LOE. If they deny based on this reason again, go for Judicial review. Lawyers will like this case cos it looks straightforward.

Dessymond394:
Hello guys
What is the best way to tackle this refusal reason from GCMS note..
I need various answers.
Urgent replys needed.

Did you provide your brother's birth certificate showing you have the same parents?

By the way, how long did it take to get this GCMS note?

Slimboss042:
It's PPR guys
Third time applicant. Finally God did it
First refusal January 6 2023
Second refusal march 29 hmmmm

Repackaged and reapplied the third time
Submission may 3rd.
PPR may 18th. Truly what God cannot do does not exist. Keep trusting God yours is the next.


Please someone should add me to university of manitoba WhatsApp group please.

Congrats.
Please can you say why you were refused initially and how you solved the issue so others can continue to enrich their knowledge on the happenings in the visa process. Thanks

akinloluazeez:
My GCMS notes for my first application is attached below.
Anyone who wish to guide me though my second application?

Bank not verifiable is a micro finance
Fixed deposit 18.5 M
2years Post graduate diploma

I’m planning to do a new POF to my GTB (Salary account). Print Statement in few wks time and submit my application with explanation that I’ve liquidated the fixed deposit to a verifiable financial institution.

Anyone who can throw more light on this will be appreciated.

How long did it take to get the GCMS notes from the day you applied?

I think the VO is concerned about the source of fund as there is a mismatch between your earnings and your account. You may need a detailed explanation to overcome his concerns

Bobomaigida:
Okay.

I have seen a JR work out positively for someone ( RollyA )on this thread. Sometimes the process is fast sometimes it is not, what happens when you get a favorable judgement, is your application will be given to another VO to review.
Dependind on how strong your case is IRCC can request for a settlement without fighting it in immigration court.
You can reach out to profile name in brackets for advice, I know she did a JR and won or just search "judicial review" on the thread to see posts about it.

Thank you very much

Bobomaigida:
You can send a reconsideration request to see if they can take a second look at it, then once you get your GCMS notes you can seek for judicial review which I believe you can afford.

The issue is not the length of the programme, I suspect the VO just held to the fact that he has siblings abroad to deny him, then added the other refusal reasons to cover his/her decision.

Thanks for your input.
Unfortunately reconsideration requests are given to the same officer that made the initial decision for another look and due to pride and not wanting to own up to mistakes, the maintain their initial decision. He tried that after first refusal.
I think this will end up in judicial review. Do you have an idea of how that process goes or have you seen anyone use that option and succeed?

Hello Everyone,

Please has anyone gotten study permit with a one year Masters program? It looks to me like more people are getting visas with a college program than Master's degree..

My cousin who intend to do a one year Masters program in University of Waterloo got rejected for the 2nd time. School fees for the entire program (45,000 cad) has been fully paid, he submitted his savings and investment accounts which has more than enough for his living expenses for more than 1 year, apart from that he added his brother's account who is his sponsor.
So in terms of finance, he submitted his sponsor and his own personal savings and investment accounts which has more than enough money, no lump sum in any of the accounts.
Now, all his siblings are in Canada as citizens and PR, he is the only one remaining in Nigeria apart from the parents.
The reasons for his refusal are:
1. Insufficient financial and assets which is surprising as school fees is fully paid and living expenses shown is more than enough. No lump sum
2. Not having substantial family ties outside Canada. Yes all siblings are in Canada but should he be punished for that? Besides, parents are still in Nigeria
3. The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with temporary stay. I don't understand given that his program aligns with his education and work experience for his career growth.
Note he is newly married and spouse is not going with him which I think was a good home ties yet ......

According to GCMS, the first refusal was Insufficient financial situation and didn't establish relationship with sponsor who is his blood brother despite paid school fees and enough available funds for living expenses. This was addressed again in the 2nd application. I'm beginning to doubt if this VOs actually go through these applications.

I'm so much interested in his case cos my own last born is the only one remaining in Nigeria and I want to sponsor him next year so I'm following closely the success of my cousins application. I'm beginning to wonder if there are hidden reasons for refusal other than what they officially state cos some refusals don't make logical sense.

Please how do we proceed from here? Should he change from Masters to 2 year college program?

Lisa290:
I have been a member of this forum for sometime now and what I have observed was I have not seen any thread about life in China or steps to moving to China. China is a great country. Let's discuss

Moving to China to live permanently and raise a family?
Apart from buying and selling, import and export, China offers nothing to an average Nigerian. The rich Chinese themselves are all over the western world, e get why.
I tell people, if you must leave Nigeria, go to a place that is worth it and have a second home away from home not a place where you can't even do Facebook like China. I like my freedom more than any other thing abeg.

Spiff20:
Sometimes I wonder what you guys abroad are doing on nairaland. The grass is greener where you are, life is sweet, you are in heaven, earning well, living in the saner clime, what exactly are you doing in nairaland arguing and trying to drive home points about Japa or no Japa. Abi na boredom de worry una?

Wao! I'm seeing envy in your post. The question should be directed to you. This is travel section. It is mainly for those who reside abroad to share their tips and experience and those in Nigeria who intend to travel to get some valuable information.

People in Nigeria who don't like abroad or don't have any intention to travel shouldn't be on this travel section. When I was in that category, I didn't come into Travel section, it was a waste of time to me,I only started checking the travel section when I became interested to travel.

So why are millionaires like you who are comfortable in Nigeria and are not interested in traveling abroad doing in the travel section? Why should you guys bother about people packing shit abroad and be arguing about life abroad like it is your business?
Please answer

The major reason is that most people in that category start thinking and preparing about where they would be buried in the event of death.
Most Nigerians especially the more traditionally inclined ones don't want to die abroad.
So if after 40 to 50 years of residing abroad for example, you have enjoyed the system, the uninterrupted electricity, the good roads, the health care etc. Your children are well settled and now you are above 70 years and retired, the question is what else do you have to do abroad?
Knowing that at that age for instance, you are living the last stages of your life, if you don't want to be die abroad and give your children too much stress of moving your body back to Nigeria and you don't want to be buried in a foreign land, then the best option is to go back to Nigeria and spend the remaining part of your life.
Traditionally speaking, people want to go and return to their father land and not go and die in foreign land.
It happens in Nigeria too. For people who are not Lagos indigenes for example, they tend to leave their children in Lagos and retire to their village at old age. It is the same thinking.

Tadadobe:
I watched a video where someone explained how she spent up to #20M to Japa. Poor Nigerians cannot Japa. These are probably people earning #1M+ NGN. These are the people that will reach abroad and earn slightly higher than this. Their only consolation sometimes is to convert their earnings to naira and tell you "I earn more than a Bank Manager in Nigeria". Bro,is the cost of living in Nigeria and America the same?? And don't Riddle me with "Nigeria can happen to anyone". There are very well secured places in Nigeria. I have lived over 29yrs in Nigeria (South West) and I've never even seen a gun except with the police and army. I only ever use to hear cases of insecurities, I've really never meet the victims. I'm not saying insecurities does not exist, in fact, it is everywhere. But I trust Nigerian Never to share such news. Still remember my uncle told how he narrowly escaped being shot in Baltimore two years ago.

Japa wave is motivated by showoff and the feelings Nigerians have anytime people talk about "do you know XYZ is now in America". Couples with the prestige with which poor nigerian give them upon say Dem dey send dollars. Just emotions and vibes and snow pictures to pepper those who held them in high esteem at home

Why are you guys displaying so much negative energy over people who have traveled abroad? From one thread to another, same talk,same opinion, same anger over something that is not your business.
They sold their property to travel, yes,is it your property?
They quit their high paying jobs, yes, is it your job?
They are washing toilet abroad, yes,is it your toilet or are they using your hand to wash it?
They are paying too much bills, yes, is it your bill?
Guys, this anger over diasporans is becoming unnecessary. Make una no go commit suicide over somebody's else problem.
Face your business and stop bordering yourself over something that is none of your business.

This thread brought tears to my eyes. The state of Nigeria at the time this thread was made seems to be better than today. So in all these years, the country went backwards. Too bad.

You don't have money to take care of yourself in Canada like you claimed in your visa application, you don't have the strength to work and make money to survive. Wetin u want make we do naa?

Iamzik:
The US dollar is losing relevance on the international stage. Japan, China and India are already trading directly with Russia.

Russia forced the entire Europe to buy gas in ruble for over 6 month now. Why do you think the us blew nordstream pipeline?


Try to follow other news sources cos it seems you only watch American news channels.

Until China starts trading with the US in Yuan instead of Dollars, keep dreaming.
Let me remind you that China trade with the US is around $700b while China trade with Russia is around $150b. Do you see the difference?
The US is China's largest export market making up a whopping 17% of their total export, do you know what that means?
If China is still trading with the US who is their largest trade partner with Dollars, what is the brouhaha about dollar losing relevance? Russia has no choice than to trade in Yuan, they have been shut out of the western financial system.

02Kebreal:
FRSC is one of the Agency I respect so much.
I wish they are properly remunerated.
They are doing well

The only reason they returned that money like that it's cos Northereners are involved. If not, that money won't have been easily returned. The family will sweat to get it back if they will ever get it back

amigo1088:
And here's why :

What are the keystones of a happy society?

Easy access to housing, easy access to free healthcare, easy access to good education, easy access to quality food.

Housing here is BRUTAL. Try to buy a house for less than 350k that isn't a piece of shit. You can't. Or you can and it's so far in the middle of nowhere that the cost of getting to and from anywhere negate any savings you've made in your purchase.

Easy access to free healthcare; ever had to go to an emergency room here? My friend's son broke his thumb a couple years ago (at 5 years old). Did we get seen? Sure. After 7.5 HOURS of waiting. The wife lost a day of work to go. Ever try to get a family doctor? I know people who've been on waiting lists for 4+ years.

Good education: up to and through high school, sure. But what does that qualify you for? Approximately nothing. You can flip burgers at McDonald's after that if you want. Want to go to Uni? Be prepared to carry debt for 5+ (often 10+) years after school

Good food? Good luck. Fruits and veggies are meh at best and cost a fortune. A head of iceberg lettuce is $6 where I am right now. Red peppers at $4.99/lb Steak? $39-49/kilo for any cut that isn't shit. Dairy sucks (Europeans that drank milk or have eaten butter here know what I'm talking about). Restaurants are prohibitively expensive for anywhere that isn't just reheating industrial garbage.

Also, Canadians aren't nice. They're polite. There's a difference. They'll say sorry if you bump into them but politeness will overshadow honesty. You ask a Canadian if they wanna hang out sometime, if they do want to, the Canadian will say"Yeah, totally, we should " and then tell people you suck once you're not around.

It's cold here. And spring takes FOREVER to be done with. And then summer is too hot. And the mosquitoes, don't even get me started...

I think that's it for now. Canada ain't the worst, but FAR from the best.

This shows how poor your judgment is. You are not intelligent one bit.
Moving from one country to another is one of the most important decisions one can make in life, it can make or mar you. Getting the right visa to make the move is not even cheap and stress free.

Before deciding to even start the process of getting a visa to relocate, smart people do comprehensive research about where they are going to see if it fits into their short,medium or long term goals. They see if the system they are about to enter fits their philosophy.

So all you are telling us is that you didn't know where you were going or how things are or work before you carried ya ass down there. Because, if you did your research, you would have known and probably not bothered relocating since you don't like what you will see. Instead, it took you by surprise. What a poor judgment you exhibited

Relocating abroad whether Canada or any other country is not for everyone. Some people have no business leaving their village sef not to talk of even relocating to Lagos.

It is not about Canada, it is you not being intelligent to know before you went, except you tell me that the Canadian government begged you to come.

My advice for you is to return to Nigeria immediately now you have discovered yourself . The worst thing that can happen to someone who is angry like this is to keep staying and slip into depression. It's not worth it.

America is becoming very useless. What kind of stupidity is this? Imagine putting children in this mindset at this early age instead of just removing guns off the streets.

Why do these guys worship guns so much that they are willing to accept unnecessary deaths?
You guys living in America are very tough people ooo.

Each time I travel to the US, I don't have peace of mind until I return to Canada. Thank God I didn't accept an offer to work in the US despite the bigger pay. I can't imagine living with this fuckery. Everything is not money abeg.

Tinubuwins2023e:
That stupid British Bastard is chewing more than he can swallow and putting too much mouth in our political internal affairs. If he isn't careful and keep his mouth shut, we are going g to show him the exit door and nothing will happen. Nigeria is no puppet to UK and we are an independent nation. That Ben fool should be more concerned about how Putin may likely nuke the entire Britain

Have you forgotten that Britain also has nuclear weapons that can wipe out Russia too?
See, if you want respect from others, you must first respect yourself. We lost being independent when Nigerian leaders, political class made UK their second home or even their first home.
Don't forget that the British health system is what kept our president alive and what is keeping our president elect alive. Don't forget that all important political meetings in Nigeria happens in the UK. The rate at which Nigeria leaders jump in and out of UK is insulting to the Nigerian nation.

How many British mps have visited Nigeria not to talk of resting and hosting meetings about Britain in Nigeria?
Nigerian leaders want to rest, they travel abroad, they are sick, they travel abroad, they want to even discuss their dirty political deals,they still fly abroad yet they still want respect.

Wsx2:
You I’ll come to see for yourself hopefully. people lie a lot and sweet talk . It’s better to say things the way it is . anyone that have the courage can take chances. I have seen some Engineers who moved to dubai from canada despite having their PR .they only come to canada every now and then to renew their status and go back to Uae . They rather work in dubai due to the high wage and low tax than taking a 50k cad job here and tax and bills takes away the money. When you see naija talking and capping, thank the Nigerian government for destroying our currency. When you exchange little money it becomes a lot in nigeria but it’s nothing here in canada

I'm in Canada but it seems our experiences are different. It seems you are battling with low paying jobs. I and people in my circle are doing high paying jobs. I have changed jobs 3 times in 4 years and each movement increased my pay considerably.
When I came to Canada newly, it was rough. I had to go back to school, pursue an in demand highly skilled career and after my first job, I acquired hard core experiences and boom! I became a hot cake. There is no week, I don't get contacted by a recruiter on LinkedIn for a job. I just keep telling them I'm not available for now until I'm ready to make another move.
Please don't use your situation to discourage people. Not everyone will do 50k job. There are many factors that would contribute to how things will work for each person so don't use one brush to paint everyone.
The reality is that some people will come and struggle, they may never get their dream job. But some will come and blossom. The only advice I give intending japarians is do your research very well. Have short and long term plans and pursue your goals strategically. If I continued in the same career path I was doing in Nigeria probably I'll be one of those people on this forum discouraging people from making a move.
The summary is if you do your homework well, have a nice plan, with time all man go dey alright.

Karikapapaya:
Please 🥺 I need advice. Since I graduated from University of Benin in 2011, I have not had a good job. I also have a Masters degree from same Uni. I reside in Warri in Delta State. I also own a diploma in theology, that means have been to bible school. Have been teaching in different private schools since 2011. Am 34 now will be 35 in few months time. Lots of people are putting pressure on me to get married but I am scared I can't sustain a family with my meagre private school teacher's salary. Am considering relocating to Abuja to see if I could get a better life with my credentials. I don't know how life really is over there? If I could get a better job? even if it's a good private school that pays well. What's the cost of accommodation? Am just trying to take a leap of faith. Though it seems late, but better late than never. I just feel a change in environment would be better because help is not forth coming from anywhere. I could also work as a pastor in a church if I can get accommodation. Someone please help me I need counsel. Thank you in anticipation 🙏. I have been thinking 🤔 too much lately. Seems like am running out of time cos most of my mates are already married and settled. Help a brother. Am Esan by tribe but born and brought up in Warri. Am like a burden to my aged parents right now because I still live with them and feed from them. I have savings of up to 150k. Keep the advice coming please. Should I just rent a small house in Warri and be managing things or I should relocate to Abuja ? Or even Lagos? I know I am brilliant because I graduated with a second class upper grade with a 4. Point CGPA in biochemistry. I can speak fluently and can defend my certificate but have not been really lucky with jobs. Have spent t fare attending different interviews in Lagos in the past I had to give up and stop coupled with he fact that the age factor isn't on my side anymore.

I wanted to mind my business since I don't have answers to your question but I feel I should draw your attention to something little but significant especially since you are looking for a better job.

From your post, you are using "Am" instead of "I'm ". For someone that has a Master's degree, this could put off a potential employer and portray you in the category of half baked graduates.

Please be mindful of this, try not to make this mistake again. When there is a competition for a job, everything matters including how you write because you could be tested in different ways.
I hope you see this as a correction for your own good and not an insult. Thanks

oscarnoble:
where do you base?

Canada

Wahala for people wey no get sense and can easily fall for what they read online.

Imagine hyping Russia, like seriously? I will take living in Nigeria any day than living in Russia. I would rather live in a third world country than an authoritarian country.

I can't live in a country where 1 man is "god".You can't criticize, you can't voice your opinion, you can't remove him from office, you can't challenge him example Russia, China, North Korea etc.

In Russia, criticize Putin and 3 things will happen. Either you chop poison and die, go to jail and be forgotten or You mysteriously fall from a balcony and die. In the last one year alone, do you know how many Russians that have mysteriously fallen to their death or eaten poison? Just Google it.

Putin is just an idiot. How can one explain that Canada of 38m people has a bigger economy than a technological advance Russia of 130m people? How do we explain that Russia is more populated, has bigger landmass, has abundant natural resources, may even be technological superior to UK, Germany, France, Italy yet Russia economy is no where near to these countries?
Putin has been in power for 23 years and just wasted the time of his country pursuing greatness by military power and yet can't even beat common Ukraine after a year of fighting.

The saying that a country cannot do better than the vision of its leaders is true. A visionary leader with the enormous resources of Russia would have taken them to at least no 4 in the world economically.

Russia is a big disappointment. People who like Russia have one thing in common and that is hatred for the west. For me, I won't like Peter because of my hatred for Paul, I will only like Peter because of the value it brings. What value does Russia bring? Freedom- NO, Democracy- NO, Economy - NO, Entertainment-NO , Nuclear weapons- YES. Ok, use the nuclear weapons and wipe out US and the west naa- NO, only mouth dem get

Anyone who wants to hype Russia, na their business, we can see things with our own eyes.

Bwise22:
The gurus in the house please I need your help!
I am a new member here, and i got to know this platform after I had already submitted my study permit application through an agent on October 2022.
I got a college admission but was refused of my study permit application in January 2023, which I am about to apply for the gcms.
The reasons for the refusal is linked to "No adequate financial resources provided, and there is no evidence that I will not work in Canada during my study period".
Document submitted along with the application as guilded by the agent was:
1. Payment of my first year tuition fees
2. Gic certificate of 10k cad
3. Valuation document of two family building s
4. Employer's letter of introduction
5. Gratuity statement of account
6. Pension statement of account
7. LOE
The agent submitted the application without even asking for my statement of account. I knew that could be responsible for reasons for refusal.
I planned to reapply but not through this agent again and I planned handling it myself because I have gained a lot of information dropped by many people on this platform.
Please I am appealing to the gurus in this platform to assist in guilding me on the documents I will need to have successful and fulfilling application this time.
Plss🙏🙏.

Abeg no vex. What is the big deal in visa application that someone cannot apply for themselves and have to rely on agents?

Is it a case of not being able to read and write or not having confidence in one's self or what?

Everything you need to apply for a visa is well written on their website. No big deal.
You can do it, you will do it and you will be successful.

Lade18:
You place curses on Nigeria like it's your water because you're in the abroad. The same Nigeria where u went to school for free without paying a dime. Same nigeria where you don't pay your bills and you use free electricity, free everything. Just continue

God forbid, I can never place curse on Nigeria even though I dislike how the country is run.

By the way, nothing in Nigeria is free. You pay for light you don't have, you still pay for fuel for generator, service your generator. If you add those cost, it is more expensive than abroad.

Bros, don't take it personal. We want Nigeria to be great. A better Nigeria is an advantage to us here abroad. It will give us that confidence and pride. I want to walk on the streets of oyibo land and raise my shoulder up cos I come from a great country like I see among the Asians here.

Lade18:
Some of you are just mad and stupid. Wetin you gain for Nigeria? Coming from someone who went to school for free. Someone who don't pay electricity bill, Water bill, who don't pay taxes in Nigeria. Someone who violate law and game the Nigerian system.

I pray most of you get to see the evil you preach on here

Abeg no vex. Are you referring to me or someone else? I don't understand your problem with me.
Do you mean that it is a good thing not to pay bills? I don't get it.

EgunMogaji2:
Shebi I dey argue with you before. My eyes don see pepper.

My Oga, this one wey u dey talk like this, I'm surprised. Ebi like say Nigerian system has happened to you.