₦airaland Forum

OlawaleSmarter1:
20 years of Slavery by PDP in South East and your Region is still the most backward

Most backward in what sense?
Can you post a link to support your assertion that SE is backward? At least I know that for the past couple of years, the 5 SE states have been among the top 10 performing states in WAEC SSCE. In terms of economy, at least Anambra, Abia, Imo and Enugu are nowhere near the bottom of the ladder.
PDP in Enugu and Ebonyi states have produced far more results than APC in Ogun and Oyo states, at least in the past 8 years. Who then is being enslaved?

OoduaVanguard:
Jimi is playing a very dangerous game, from a historical perspective which I will explain in a minute. Even if Tinubu will be retired in Lagos, it shouldn't be via non-Yorubas the way Jimi is trying to achieve it. Yorubas alone should make that call. History taught us that Afonja sought the help of Hausa and Fulani jamas to help defeat an unpopular and tyrannical Alaafin in order for him to consolidate his hold on ilorin, only for the jamas to start feeling like he owed them his position, culminating in his death in the hands of the same jamas while he was trying to clip their wings. That episode led to the birth of the ilorin emirate (the only one existing on Yoruba soil till date).

Similar scenario must never be allowed to repeat itself ever again on Yoruba soil.

Jimi will lose this election of course, but if he were to win with the help of igbos, he and and all subsequent Lagos governors would be at their mercy because they will claim sole responsibility for such victory. That would spell doom for Lagos as we know it. This is beyond Tinubu or no Tinubu. The cost of involving outsiders in settling political scores will never favour the Yoruba nation.

The point in bold doesn't make any sense. Even if Igbos help Jimi Agbaje get into power, who says he must owe them any loyalty? Akpabio single handedly made Udom governor but today, Udom has broken loose from his grip. Same situation between Peter Obi and Obiano.
Even if Igbos help Agbaje win election, is he going to win with only Igbo votes? Probably half or more of the people that will vote for him will be Yorubas, so why should Igbos hold him hostage? And who says Yorubas can't rally round him if he finally wins and give him the support he needs? Is he not a Yoruba man? Is PDP an Igbo party? The guys that are planning to vote for Seyi Makinde in Oyo State, are they Igbos? Or was it Igbos that made PDP win in Oyo and Ondo states on February 23rd?
The earlier you guys realise that PDP is very much alive in Yoruba land, and APC is not really a Yoruba party, the better for you.

nonsobaba:
From the air, there isn't much difference between abakaliki and ogbomosho. Umahi needs to focus more on how to lift millions of ebonyians from extreme poverty. He is still playing to the gallery. What is the purpose of building a flyover when 95% of the vehicles that will be plying it would be bicycles and keke

He is planning for the future. Cut the man some slack joor.

Sweetcollins:
One question

Should Atiku wins the tribunal, say some months or even a year after inauguration, is that going to affect our general elections schedules since he must complete his mandate just like some governors in some state.

Just curious

Maybe the case will be concluded before May 29th and whoever wins at the Supreme Court will be sworn in on that day.

Hedonisst:
Lol. You don't know what the Supreme Court is capable of. Do you know what judicial activism means? Ask Amaechi, he himself is a big beneficiary of judicial activism.

The Supreme Court will not merely cancel the election and order a fresh election. The Supreme Court would nullify Buhari's fake 'victory' and declare Atiku the rightful winner. They would overreach themselves to do that, in order to restore sanity to the system. Amaechi enjoyed the same thing... That's what made him governor. So he knows.

As much as I would wish this happens, the reality of Nigeria is that it is IMPOSSIBLE for it to happen.

Now this is getting very worrying. What do these guys know about the elections that we don't?
I personally believe that Atiku won't win the court case (though I support him). I mean, let's be real. This is Nigeria. I don't see the Supreme Court nullifying the whole elections and asking for fresh presidential elections to be conducted. The cost of conducting presidential elections is so humongous that no court including SC will want it to be repeated.
The more these guys beg Atiku, the more it becomes clear that a lot of water passed under the bridge in the last elections.

ayoncox:
A colleague of mine at work who served at Awka during his nysc said the average Igbo man seems not to be grateful. He mentioned all the good and great things Obiano is doing in Anambra most especially in the schools. The internet facilities, solar power, heavy duty generators tracking of performance of teachers. He later on said, if he were to be a governor in the North Central or west they will just tell him to continue. It was then I got to realize that most at times, the problem of the average Igbo is that they feel they are better off than others so they even take their governors likely and the poor performing ones they will not push out only to go other people land and say we have our right, whereas charity begins at home, go home and support your governors and develop the east stop shouting we developed Yoruba land, it is foolishness

You know nothing about the East. Stop exposing your ignorance.
Obiano is doing his 2nd tenure now, so I wonder what you meant by "if it's in the North Central or West, they will tell him to continue".
Oga, Obiano, Umahi and Ugwuanyi are all doing well. These 3 states of Anambra, Enugu and Ebonyi have very effective governors. People are only angry with Obiano and Umahi cos of their romance with APC.
These 3 governors are FAR better than Ajimobi and Amosun. Even Akeredolu has nothing on them in terms of performance. The only SE state that has been very unlucky with their governors is Abia. They have never been able to get it right. Imo is also unlucky with the useless Rochas.

donstan18:
You once breastfed him?

If by any way reversed was the case, some of these frustrated dumbfvck creatures calling themselves women will be quick to term the man pervert/pedophile.

Reversed in what sense? Do men produce breastmilk?
So what will a man have been able to feed a baby girl with? Sperm? Your mind is very warped.

femi4:
That's not even the point. You claimed you can only use "efficiency" for machine

Efficiency is for things (including machines, organisations, systems etc) while competence is for humans.

LexngtonSteele:
Kai... at least this one's permanent address isn't a jail in Asia.

Thank the living Jesus! This is a miracle. Sign of maybe Rapture!

MIT.... i salute!

You find a good mix of every quality and attribute among them. The best of geniuses and the worst of criminals are among them. They are simply an extraordinary group of people.

Kagawa10:
And I'm telling you it's a lie. As long as he's still the governor, he has all the security with him. Did you realise Fayose also dealt with these fulani miscreants using government securities? If Fayose who's a trouble maker and a PDP member who was always on Buhari's neck could tackle herdsmen issue easily, I don't see why Ortom couldn't. Ortom was just looking for ways to whip out sentiment to cover up his poor governance in the state.

How many Fulani herdsmen are in Ekiti? Herdsmen menace has never been a real issue in the South West the way it has been in the Middle Belt. Moreover, Yorubas are a large and important ethnic group and I'm sure the Fulanis won't want a tension with Yorubas. Benue on the other hand has been the hotbed of Fulani herdsmen murderous activities for several years (or even decades) now. Benue's issue preceeded Ortom and will likely outlive him, just that it seems it got a little worse at some point under him.

What did Fayose do that Ortom didn't do more? Fayose banned cattle grazing. Wasn't Ortom the first governor to do that? Nobody threatened Fayose after doing it, but we read how Miyetti Allah warned that there would be more killings if Benue HoA didn't reverse that law, and truly, they went on killing spree thereafter. Was that Ortom's fault? Benue even set up Livestock Guard which was like a vigilante, but did it help it?

Have you not read how Fulanis lay claim to Benue land, saying it was traditionally part of their Emirates and vowing they will maintain their right to it? How many times have you heard or read that they claimed any inch of South West land?
Abeg, don't even try comparing Fayose and Ortom. The circumstances are just incomparable.

Kagawa10:
I didn't read it at first but thank God I did. The withdrawal happened close to Anambra governorship election which emphasized my point on the end of one's tenure.

Even when Fayose was misbehaving and was cursing Buhari daily, his security personnel were never withdrawn.

My point is that governors can still be helpless when it comes to security. They can't single handedly cause the deployment of security agents to quell tensions in their states just like they can't even be very sure of their own security all thru their tenure. Putting the whole responsibility of security of their states on them is simply unfair.

Kagawa10:
Vanguard newspaper? Abeg.

I guess you'll believe this one better, at least it puts your master in a better light, and it's from Punch.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/buhari-senate-order-reinstatement-of-obianos-security-aides/amp/

Kagawa10:
I have already written explicitly on this in my subsequent post. You can read on the thread. As for the emboldened part of your post, such never happened. Every Governor has an immunity until his tenure ends. I hope you ain't one of those folk that feeds on propaganda without bothering to find out the real truth. Just like how Adeleke and Peter Obi account was claimed to have been freezed by the FG, only to find out it was all lie.

It's no propaganda, and I'm not accusing Buhari's FG cos it didn't start under Buhari. Take a look at this link:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/11/life-danger-cries-obiano-police-withdraw-security/

Bolustical:



See stupid talk.

Who did GEJ (a South Southerner) replace Sanusi (a core Northerner) with? Not the same man from his region?

The next CBN Chairman goes to the North since it's leaving the south.

In times like this, you remind us of how GEJ appointed a southerner. This talk about replacing Emefiele with a northerner wouldn't have arisen if Buhari had been sharing his appointments fairly. The only issue is that Buhari removes a southerner and puts a northerner, he removes a northerner and puts another northerner.
Check out INEC where instead of appointing somebody from the SW or SS (let's forget about SE now), he went ahead and replaced Jega with another northerner. Same thing he did with Customs, DSS, IGP and many other agencies.

Kagawa10:
This has no federal government bearing. The state government should be the one to deal with such cases. They are not receiving security money for nothing.

Federal government controls the army, police and all other security agencies. Even state governors are at the mercy of the FG with respect to their personal security. I'm sure you've heard of times in the past when the security details of governors were removed based on "orders from above".

kingthreatz:
Christians una no go talk? If it was in Benue, jos, taraba, you will say it is Buhari's Jihad. Now these evil elements are wiping villages in the north, you will not even show some sympathy.
The insecurity is getting much there. Government needs to do something on this bandits.

And what do you want Christians to do? A new government would have brought fresh ideas and fresh vigour into this fight but you people chose to stick to Buhari. What else can Christians do, considering that majority of them wanted to vote him out?

sapele914:
Ignorance is a curse are you not aware that all the minerals including crude oil in Akwa Ibom and any other states in Nigeria belongs to the Federal Government (All the people of Nigeria)?Glorifying over your stupidity?

Does Akwa Ibom have a refinery?what is the name of Akwa ibom’s state owned oil investment company?

You're the ignorant person. With the 13% derivation as a result of their huge oil deposits, Akwa Ibom earns the largest allocation from the FG. It is one of the richest states in Nigeria alongside Lagos and Rivers State. If APC gets Akwa Ibom, they have crippled PDP to a large extent.

naijaguy1234:
That's your next president after Buhari then back to the north before back to Yoruba again. Either you like it or not.

For your mind!

chieftroller003:


70 yr old woman is still going for knee surgery. Smh
Waste of funds
Money DAT should be saved for the woman's burial

Patients who are over 80 years old, even up to 90 years have joint replacement surgeries in the UK.

lakesider:
What if lagosian have done same

Use your brain! Igbos that buy land in Lagos develop them and build houses on them. Those are massive investments being buried on Lagos land. Have you heard of any Hausa, Fulani or Yoruba man build a house in the South East? On the other hand, these Fulani guys want land for cattle grazing. They will graze the land for years and will not improve its value.

Secondly and more importantly, those herdsmen are a security risk. The havoc they've been causing in the Middle Belt is glaring. You don't want to invite potential terrorists into your village. Have you heard of Igbo traders going about killing people in Lagos before?
Even your Yoruba communities won't agree to sell land to those terrorists, why are you expecting Igbos to do the same? Isn't that hypocrisy?

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TIGRITIS:
I have nothing to say other than;

May God bless pmb/pyo
May God bless Rotimi Ameachi 
May God bless patriotic Nigerians.

Pyo/elrufai, when you take over in 2023, pls ensure this good work continues.

I still wonder why a human being with human brain will thumb print for pdp, God forbid.

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God bless Goodluck Ebele Jonathan and Stella Oduah

maasoap:
Lol. I thought that the alliance still continued with your support for Atiku Al'Camerooni Dan Fulani in 2019? You guys don't know how to get the best out of your alliances. Just watch.

Wait till 2023

Goke7:
Did pdp win in Lagos too in the Presidential elections? Stop giving yourself false hopes like you guys gave atiku

PDP will not win in Lagos, get that into your skull, since PDP has made the election a tribal issue, the yorubas will defend their heritage and there is nothing you guys can do about it. Going forward, the Lagos house of assembly will start passing laws to check you guys since una no dey hear word

I'm not saying PDP will win in Lagos. I'm only saying Igbos have a right to vote for PDP in Lagos. You can't take that right away from them.

Goke7:
We have no problem with igbos working and living in Lagos but they should stay within their boundaries and stop meddling in our politics. That's our humble request

My dear, it's not your politics. It's equally their politics cos that is where they live and work. They will definitely get involved cos they have the numbers. There are Yoruba MPs in the UK, why then won't there be Igbo legislators in another state in their country? You just can't stop it, you can't!

laurel03:
but we have gain already for first term... Lag Ibadan train project, lag Ibadan expressway, sagamu to ikorodu way, sango to Abeokuta expressway etc

Wow! For you to be celebrating these, then Nigeria is really a messed up country.
Just sit still, relax and let's all watch the Next Level movie.

Mods, why did you move such a post with nearly all first page comments deleted to the front page?

Hotfreezer:
Igbos have the right to contest elections in Lagos. However, they do not have a right to win.

Contesting is one thing, winning is another thing.

Exactly! That's the point I want people to see. Any igbo man that thinks he has the liver should go and contest. Let Lagosians decide if he should win or not. Also, the voters shouldn't be intimidated during elections. Let them vote any candidates of their choice.

maasoap:
It was people like you who didn't understand this before. I'm glad you agreed now that all your hate and shakara meant nothing to stop Buhari. But just to let you know that northerners not fools, they understand the concept of politics more than your ancestors, they knew very well that allies are essential part of democracy.

Chill bro, the next 4 years will be interesting. By 2023, the north will throw out another popular candidate, and let's see how the Almajiris will vote for Osinbajo in their numbers.
When you talk about allies, know it clearly that a good part of the North and SS/SE were allies from 1999 till 2015. The alliance between the North and SW is only about 4 years old. Let's see how things unfold in the next couple of years.

tubouncen:
Name one southwestern that held a post in the Eastern part of Nigeria

The issue is that no South East town or city has a sizeable proportion of Yorubas that can make them contest elections. The few Yorubas that live in the South East don't settle fully unlike Igbos that live in Lagos. Those few Yorubas don't participate in local politics in the places where they live in the South East, so why will they hold political offices?
The Igbos that contest in Lagos are card carrying members of Lagos PDP or APC. They have a right to contest elections there, and they have a large population of their people to vote for them. Mind you, they are not asking that they should be appointed into positions. They are only exercising their right to vote and be voted for.
If a Yoruba man lives in Enugu over many years and feels he has become popular enough, he can buy form for House of Reps or State House of Assembly and contest. Nobody will stop him. The only issue is that he won't likely win, cos he won't have enough Yorubas around to vote for him.
It's only in Lagos Igbos contest elections outside Igbo land and it's because they know they have the population there.
Also, if a man from Osun State can contest elections in Lagos, then a man from Enugu state should also be able to do that. Don't tell me Osun and Lagos are both Yorubas states so it doesn't matter, because Oyo State can never allow an Osun man be their governor, neither can a man from Ogun State contest and win major elections in Ekiti State.

Goke7:
Nigeria is not yet ready for this kind of development, ok? can a yoruba man be governor in Kano, another cosmopolitan city like Lagos? can anyone aside an igbo man be governor in big states or cities like Enugu? We are not yet ripe and mature for what you are talking about yet just like State Police which is great but the kind of politics we play currently cannot accommodate such developments for now so let's be real. Yorubas are no fools and will not be used for a trial and error experiment.

I agree with you that we are not yet ready for that level of civilization. But the issue is this, Yorubas don't have a sizeable population in any part of any state that can swing votes to their side in that location (not to talk of the whole state) in any election. On the contrary, Igbos have a large population in some constituencies in Lagos that with their population alone, they can win any free and fair election in those constituencies. They also have a large population in the whole of Lagos state that can swing votes to any direction if elections are free and fair, and they all vote for one candidate. That is the annoyance of Yorubas.
Kano is nothing near Lagos in terms of being cosmopolitan. Kano is to the North what Lagos is to Nigeria.

My point is, let people be allowed to vote their choice. At least I know for now, Igbos cannot contest and win Lagos guber elections. They don't have that much population to dream of ruling Lagos, but they shouldn't be intimidated during elections. They have the right to vote any candidate of their choice.

My initial post was directed at the person saying that Lagos is doing Igbos a favour by allowing them to work in government offices. I replied to tell him that so far those Igbos live in Lagos and are paying their taxes, it's their right to work in such establishments. If in developed countries, people from other nationalities can take some exalted offices in the countries of their residence, it shouldn't be a big deal if Igbos who are Nigerians by right, live and work in Lagos. It shouldn't also be a big deal if they get to participate fully in Lagos politics.

Goke7:
so let everyone bear their papa name, we don't want igbos meddling in our politics in the sw as we do not meddle in theirs in the east, is that too much to ask for? igbos have been voting for pdp till date and they don't feel they are in any danger or bondage, Lagosians have been voting for a particular party since 1999 and we are ok with it, so who have we offended?

This is where you get it wrong. Lagosians are not only Yorubas but all those who live and work in Lagos. Anybody with a voters card in Lagos and registered in Lagos has a right to determine who rules Lagos. If you want Igbos not to have any right to vote in Lagos, then perhaps your legislators should move a motion in the National Assembly that people should only register with INEC in their states of origin. With that, I can assure you that Lagos will have one of the least number of registered voters.
As long as Nigeria still operates the way it is, Igbos have a right to vote for PDP in Lagos, and you can't do anything about it.
Before you start foaming in the mouth, take note that PDP won in last Saturday's election in Ondo and Oyo states. I guess it's Igbos that also made that happen.