₦airaland Forum

deScifa:
Lol I'm not generalising that's why I used the word average. But when generality of a certain tribe shows certain disdain for another that can be termed as general views of that particular tribe. It is an understatement to say majority of Igbo people has this anti south west agenda and most of the sentiments are here on Nairaland for all to see.

Judging Igbos by Nairaland comments shows inexperience. I have Yoruba friends and we've never had any ethnic-coloured misunderstanding. If you had real life Igbo friends, you would have known that what you see on Nairaland is far from reality.
If Igbos are really as difficult as some of you assume, how come there are Igbos scattered in all the nooks and crannies of the world, and we don't often hear of real life confrontations between Igbos and other tribes? Do you think it's only in Lagos that Igbos live? Even in the most remote parts of the different states in Nigeria, there are always Igbo men.
Go into the real world, relate with Igbo men and see your perspective change.

What you call anti-southwest agenda is mainly due to differing political leanings. Igbos are pro-PDP and Yorubas are pro-APC, and just as APC and PDP never agree, that's why it seems like Igbos and Yorubas never agree. It not that Igbos hate Yorubas as a tribe. It's just the resentment for APC that manifests.

SaAbbas:
No one can tell but suspected mosquito coil trigger cooking gas

Oh, that's sad! Mosquito coils and candle sticks are responsible for many fire incidents in Nigeria. People should avoid them.

QMNIX:
Please stop preaching. when the Government on behalf of Fulani herdsmen, Miyatti asked for Lands for cattle ranching did your governors remember we are one Nigeria but they all resisted claiming that the herdsmen will be difficult to control and can even take over the area. So tell me what is the difference between we yorubas protecting our dear Lagos for you Igbos and your governors reaction to cattle ranching. we are even magnanimous to have live so long with the igbos tolerating their excesses. My question again if the table were turned, you guys will do much worse just as you are doing right now in your states. when I mean IGBO, i don't mean all the Igbo( the ipob fans and their sympathizers) excluding those once who respect other tribes and love Nigeria.

It's unfair to make it seem like the cattle colony ish is only a concern to Igbos. Even Yorubas equally refused to give out the lands. Almost all Yoruba governors went against it.
What people were saying is that cattle rearing is a private business. The herdsmen should go and buy land for their ranches. Nobody will hinder them. Plots of land are being sold in Awka, Enugu, Owerri, Abakaliki etc. Anybody can go and buy. The lands on which Igbos build their houses in Lagos, Abuja, Kano etc, they buy them. Even the shops they own in many major markets all over Nigeria, they either buy or rent them.
But for the FG to use their position to claim massive hectares of land and give it to herdsmen who are all Fulanis is what people don't want, cos those hectares of land will in the future become Fulani provinces. I think it's simple to appreciate.

If which tables were turned? Have you ever heard that any Yoruba person was bullied in any part of Igbo land? I am sure you will know one or 2 Yoruba guys or ladies that did NYSC in Igbo land. You can go and ask them how they lived among Igbos in the East. Igbos welcome strangers very well and tolerate them.

The only 'issue' with Igbos is that they have so much drive for success which often seems like arrogance. That is the reason why it may seem like they've come to challenge you in your home land, and many people hate it. It's nothing but a love for competition. If you can compete, then they are game.

SaAbbas:
He's my neighbour
Very nice and kind man
He signed my guarantors form when I got my first job with access bank.
#RIP Isaiah
You will always be remembered

What caused the fire?

Arson, most likely. It's possibly the people he was trying to help or those impoverishing them that are behind the fire.
May their souls rest in perfect peace.

deScifa:
You have some points. But the day Sadiq Khan tells UK London is a no man's land or Obama and his people shows disdain for there host that's the very moment they start to loose right and opportunities that should naturally accord to them. You don't show disgust and hatred for your host the way an average Igbo man does and expect them to continue to treat you with fairness. Instead of building bridges an average Igbo is blinded with ego and sentiments.

Which useless disdain are you talking about? If you live in Lagos, how many times have you seen Igbos in Lagos breaking rules? How many of them fail to pay their taxes? How many of them flagrantly break the laws of the land? People are free to say anything they want to say online. Many of the people that even shout online don't live in Lagos. You don't judge people that live, work and conduct their activities lawfully in Lagos by the actions of unknown people online.

Apart from that, is Nigeria no longer a single, united country? Can a London man tell a Manchester man that he doesn't have a right in London? Even a Scottish man can be anything he wants to be in London. Nobody will tell him that he's not English but Scottish.
The whole talk about no man's land wouldn't have arisen in the first place, in a sane and decent society. If not that Yorubas keep reminding Igbos that they don't have any right in Lagos, that they can't aspire for offices in Lagos, that they cannot freely vote for whoever they want and all such nonsense, who would have been talking about no man's land?

The day Yorubas want Lagos to solely belong to them and Igbos will no longer have any right, then they are saying that Nigeria has ceased to become a nation. Everybody can then go their separate ways. That's the way it should be ideally, but because Nigeria is still far from civilization, that's why you hear all these rubbish like "go back to your villages". How can a man born and raised in Ogbomosho, who has never lived in Lagos be telling another man born and raised in Lagos that he doesn't have any right in Lagos? This sort of nonsense can only happen in countries far from civilization!

sarrki:
I recall Tinubu as governor. He appointed Igbos to his cabinet. Ben Akabueze who does national planing for Buhari, once did same for Lagos.

Tinubu had a spelling competition for young lads. Whoever won, was made governor for Lagos for a day. As in Tinubu literally vacated Alausa for the champ. He or she would travel with DSS escorts in Tinubus armoured jeep and wear his trademark cap, and seat on his seat. I recall, a certain Ebuka was the first beneficiary of this gesture. You need to see how Tinubu and his wife feted that boy. I was jealous.

Say what you like about Tinubu and Lagos, I've never witnessed large scale discrimination against Igbos.

Go to Lagos inland revenue service, you'd see Igbos working there. Are there no better educated Yorubas? Yet, Igbos are given some consideration.

I witnessed same in Ogun state.

Maybe, it's all these things that will make someone begin to imagine that Lagos is no man's land.


Lagos must Be protected

The greatest cities in the world usually have a heterogenous population of people. Yorubas alone couldn't have made Lagos what it is today. Even the massive population of Lagos which gives it one of its bragging rights is contributed to a large extent by Igbos and all other Nigerians. Much of the amenities Lagos enjoys were built to service all Nigerians.
Stop thinking like a 17th Century African. Think like a 21st Century human living in a modern world.
The Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan is Pakistani - British man. Obama is a Kenyan American. These are the realities of the modern world.
Igbos shouldn't only be good for paying taxes in Lagos. They should be able to live and work comfortably in any sector in Lagos too. Some of them were born and raised there while some of you that make noise on social media have never lived in Lagos for even a month. You're not more Lagos than they are.

laurel03:
without ur support he don win already 5% region

He also didn't need your support to win. Go and check out again the number of votes your region gave him and compare it with his margin of win. You think the core northerners aren't taking note of these. They have simply confirmed to Nigerians that the Northern votes alone can install a Nigerian president even if the South votes massively against them.

bkool7:
What can say?

If being a VP means 'getting the crumbs' I'm oblige to let you comfort yourselves with that

So a Yoruba man is a VP to an ethnic bigot who doesn't even regard Yorubas in key decision making, appoints only Northerners to sensitive positions and you're rejoicing? Even Abba Kyari and Mamman Daura carry more weight in Aso Rock than the VP. We've heard it mentioned repeatedly how Osinbajo is sometimes prevented from having access to Buhari.
A VP that is excluded in key security meetings that even Northern governors attend...
A VP that has to travel round the country on private, chattered helicopter simply because all the crafts in the presidential fleet have been booked to service other people in the presidency...

gobuchinny:
This is a very ignorant post..y r you acting like Oyedepo is doing Nigeria a favour? don't you know the person that benefits most from this is Oyedepo? is the school free? is the school subsidised?

This a business like any other business..i know because my family owns a school in Lagos that generates million every quarter...what is all this rubbish like we should clap that a great thing has been done..

These schools are built with tithe and offerings of the people and privatised to personal business and you are here talking like a great thing was done..should we clap for him

If those people didn't pay the tithe and give the offerings, there wouldn't be these schools today. Those same people may not have been richer today cos they would have spent the same tithe and offering money on something else. The addition of these schools is a great boost to the Nigerian educational system. I can also bet you that these schools will most likely have a far better standard than the average government owned schools in their localities.

Whether built with tithe and offering money or his personal money, whether expensive or free, Oyedepo should be commended for his massive investment in education. Look at Covenant already among the top 3 universities in Nigeria. It's a thing of pride.
The government compulsorily collects tax from all the working class citizens and the money is squandered by a few. Oyedepo collects tithe from a few Winners members out of their own choice and invests the money massively, yet people are complaining.

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Corrinthians:
Did anyone ask you guys? Your sons and daughters are acting in ways that could precipitate very negative consequences, and rather than call them to order, you are busy securing your ego.

Did anyone ask you guys to regret working against him?

It is such a shame seeing how elders have chosen to remain aloof in the midst of such glaring display of waywardness by their kith and kin.

You people should be deeply worried that most other Nigerians are now coming to identify your tribe with the word HATE. That is truly troubling. You should act now before it becomes too late.

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Omenkà, it's not your business. You always obsess yourself with Igbo matters here on Nairaland. Face your Benue State and your Northern lords.
Igbos owe nobody apology for our pattern of voting. We don't expect anything from Buhari. We've already seen his first tenure, so no need to bother ourselves.
4 years is not eternity. It will come and go in a jiffy.

bkool7:
Exactly

So you people don't come asking for shit .

The SW has passed the baton of Opposition to the SE and SS

With your 53% votes for Buhari, you're almost in the opposition. The North knows this fact, and they will keep treating you like that. Watch out for Buhari's appointments in this next tenure. SW will keep getting the crumbs alongside the rest of the South.

focus7:
Confused people.

I have said it before the election and i will say it anytime again and again, Buhari does not need the Igbos to be president. Igbos can hate as much as they want Buhari is ruling this country for another four years, if they like they can all pack and go to Cameron for Atiku to rule them there.

Buhari doesn't even need Yorubas to be president as evidenced by the last election results. Even if the SW states gave him only 500k votes (as against the 2.04 million votes they gave him) and gave Atiku 3.2 million (as against the 1.78 million they gave him), Buhari would still have won the election.
The North just made the entire South realise that they can win the election all by themselves.
If you're not from the North, there's no need for all these bragging.

scopusng:
1) Abia: INEC declared results: APC-85,058, PDP-219,698: Int’l Observers/PDP obtained results(same with INEC declared figures)

(2) Anambra: INEC declared: APC-33,298, PDP-524,738-same with int’l observers/PDP obtained results

(3) Imo: INEC declared: APC-140,961, PDP-334,923-same with int’l observers/PDP obtained results

(4) Ebonyi: INEC declared: APC-90,726, PDP-258,573: int’l observers/PDP(2 votes reduced from PDP votes)

(5) Enugu: INEC declared: APC-54,423, PDP-355,553: int’l observers/PDP remarks (200 votes added to PDP)

(6) Cross River: INEC Declared: APC-117,302, PDP-295,737: int’l observers/PDP results: APC-17,303, PDP-395, 737 (remarks-100,001 added to APC and 100,000 votes deducted from PDP)

(7) Rivers: INEC declared: APC-150,710, PDP-473,971: int’l observers/PDP results: APC-102,195, PDP-7019,044 (remarks-48,515 votes added to APC and 245, 073 deducted from PDP)

( Delta: INEC declared: APC-221,392, PDP-594,068: int’l observers/PDP results: APC-171,556, PDP-611,228 (remarks: 49,726 votes added to APC and 17, 160 deducted from PDP)

(9) Edo: INEC declared: APC-267,842, PDP-275,691: int’l observers/PDP(remarks: 42 votes added to APC and 10 added to PDP)

(10) Bayelsa: INEC declared: APC-118,821, PDP-197,933: int’l observers/PDP results: APC-56,910, PDP-414,614 (remarks: 216, 618 votes deducted from PDP)

(11) Akwa Ibom: INEC declared: APC-175,429, PDP-395,832: int’l observers/PDP results: APC-75,429, PDP-497,831 (remarks: 1000,000 votes added to APC and 101, 999 deducted from PDP)

(12) FCT: INEC declared: APC-152,224, PDP-259,997: int’l observers/PDP votes (same with INEC declared)

(13) Kogi: INEC declared: APC-285, 894, PDP-218,207: int’l observers/PDP results (same)

(14) Benue: INEC declared: APC-347, 668, PDP-356,817: int’l observers/PDP results: APC-147,668, PDP-555, 255 (remarks: 200,000 votes added to APC and 198, 438 deducted from PDP)

(15) Niger: INEC declared: APC-612,371, PDP-318,052: int’l observers/PDP results: APC-512,371, PDP-318,052(remarks: 100,000 votes added to APC and 100,000 deducted from PDP)


Others are:
16. Plateau: INEC declared: APC-468,555, PDP-548,665: int’l observers/PDP remarks (same)

17. Nasarawa: INEC declared: APC-289,903, PDP-283,847: int’l observers/PDP remarks (same)

18. Kwara: INEC declared: APC-308,984, PDP-138,484: int’l observers/PDP remarks (same)

19. Ogun: INEC declared: APC-281, 762, PDP-194,655: int’l observers/PDP remarks (same)

20. Ekiti: INEC declared: APC-219, 231, PDP-154,032: int’l observers/PDP remarks (same)

21. Ondo: INEC declared: APC-241,769, PDP-275, 901: int’l observers/PDP remarks (same)

22. Osun: INEC declared: APC-347,632, PDP-337,377: int’l observers/PDP remarks (20,000 votes deducted from PDP votes)



23. Oyo: INEC declared: APC-365,229, PDP-366,690: int’l observers/PDP results: APC-265,229, PDP-466,690(remarks: 100,000 votes added to APC and 100,000 votes deducted from PDP)

24. Lagos: INEC declared: APC-580,825, PDP-448,015: int’l observers/PDP results: APC-480,814, PDP-548,061(remarks-100,011 votes added to APC and 100, 046 deducted from PDP)

25. Adamawa: INEC declared: APC-378,078, PDP-410,266: int’l observers/PDP remarks (same)

26. Bauchi: INEC declared: APC-798,428, PDP-209,313: int’l observers/PDP results: APC-598,428, PDP-409,313 (remarks-200,000 votes added to APC and 200,000 deducted from PDP)

27. Gombe: INEC declared: APC-402,961, PDP-138, 848: int’l observers/PDP remarks (same)

28. Yobe: INEC declared: APC-497,914, PDP-50,763: int’l observers/PDP results: APC-297,914, PDP-250,763(remarks-200,000 added to APC and 200,000 deducted from PDP votes)

29. Borno: INEC declared: APC-838,496, PDP-71,788: int’l observers/PDP results: APC-536,496, PDP-371,788 (remarks-302,000 votes added to APC and 300,000 deducted from PDP)

30. Jigawa: INEC declared: APC-734,738, PDP-289,895: int’l observers/PDP results: APC-489,895, PDP-594,338(remarks-305 votes added to APC and 305 deducted from PDP)

31. Taraba: INEC declared: APC-324, 906, PDP-274,743: int’l observers/PDP results: APC-224,096, PDP-474,743(remarks-100,000 votes added to APC and 200,000 deducted from PDP)

32. Kaduna: INEC declared: APC-993,445, PDP-649,612: int’l observers/PDP results: APC-893,445, PDP-749,612(remarks-100,000 votes added to APC and 100,000 deducted from PDP)

33. Sokoto: INEC declared: APC-490,333, PDP-361,604: int’l observers/PDP remarks (same)

34. Zamfara: INEC declared: APC-438,682, PDP-125, 423: int’l observers/PDP results: APC-389,001, PDP-256,490(remarks-49,681 votes added to APC and 131,067 deducted from PDP)

35. Katsina: INEC declared: APC-1,232, 133, PDP-308,056: int’l observers/PDP results: APC- 1,032, 133, PDP-508,056(remarks-200,000 votes added to APC and 200,000 deducted from PDP)

36. Kebbi: INEC declared: APC-581, 552, PDP-154,282: int’l observers/PDP results: APC-399, 729, PDP-198,755 (remarks-181,823 votes added to APC and 44, 473 deducted from PDP)

37. Kano: INEC declared: APC-1,464, 768, PDP-391,593: int’l observers/PDP results: APC-1,064, 768, PDP-791,593 (remarks-400,000 votes added to APC and 400,000 deducted from PDP).

What's your source?

Bungalow:
did he win? you probably lack comprehension

..

You're the one that can't reason well. Did he not win in Ondo and Oyo? Are they also IPOB?
Abeg get out joor!

Bungalow:
Only ipobians thohght Atiku could win .
Lmao

Man, he got 47% of South West votes!

Seetto:
Like during Gej when...
President is south south
VP...north
Senator north
Dep sen... South east
Speaker.. North
Deputy speaker...south east
SSG...south east
Minister of justice..north
Minister of finance ...south east
etc south west was conspicuously marginalized and treated like trash despite all the support they gave goatluck in 2011, this prompted tinubu to misfire him to political grave yard......

Good luck is the source of religion and ethic division in Nigeria or less I forget he is APC member.

South West sold their Speaker slot to the North (Tambuwal) to strengthen the opposition.

GoTV:
Buhari should not hesitate to jail Peter Obi for producing that treasonous biafran beer called Hero beer. I personally will never vote for any igbo man

You'll never vote for an Igbo man AS A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN THAT YOU ARE... You can make the correction later. Be deceiving yourself.
You don't have to vote for an Igbo man. Even if an Igbo man never rules Nigeria, Igbos will keep living better than the impoverished people of the North. Even Katsina that has produced 2 presidents in the past 12 years is far more impoverished than the average Igbo state. Look at how bandits are killing off the people of Katsina yet the docile president in power can't even help out his kinsmen. Shame!!!
We're not desperate for the useless presidency.

tstx:
Atiku should just concede defeat already... Ah ah


See my signature

Has Buhari ever conceded defeat in his life? Three times he lost in the past, he contested all of them. So why should Atiku concede? Let the Supreme Court rule over the case and tell him he truly lost, then he can rest.

ProudBoy:
SP- NE
DSP- SS


Speaker- SW
deputy speaker- NW.

I guess there are only 4 geopolitical zones in Nigeria.

saraki2019:
Nigerians shall eject pdp completely by 2023

Buhari won't contest in 2023. We all know he's d force that holds APC together. APC will face its toughest battle of survival in 2023. Just watch and see.

TheGreenLand:
See you again in 2023.
The people's CHOICE has been voted in for now, that is all Nigerians want.
Only pigs are sad with that.
I love d presido .
NEXT LEVEL tinz

Like the pigs in Ondo and Oyo states.

ProudBornoBoy:
I thought many people on this forum said PDP supporters are educated, how come they can not differentiate between PCP and PDP nor the famous UMBRELLA logo of the PDP to that of PCP.

PDP got 11 million votes while the guy got 110k votes. That's only 1% of the total votes PDP got. If 1% of PDP supporters are stupid, does that affect the 99% that are smart?

Buhari lost 3 times in the past and never congratulated the winner those 3 times. In 2011 that he lost fair and square, his utterances led to the loss of lives.
Whoever is telling Atiku to concede this soon is a hypocrite.

TheFreeOne:
Akpabio still got senate presidency on his mind

And with the current militocracy in power...anything is possible.

Before the tribunal will finish the case and Appeal Court decide on it, Senate has finished electing its principal officers. Even if he wins finally, he can never be Senate President again. He can only be given a juicy committee to head.

Jadmchris:
Remember Good luck wife came to adoration and donated and he still told her Buhari will win in 2015. So my dear, is not all about donation. If you knew the Rv fr during Chimaroke Nnamani Era as Enugu governor, u will understand the type of priest he is better

I mentioned the donation because from the way he kept trying to armtwist Peter Obi to donate and finally got angry and declared that he and Atiku would lose, it appeared to me that Peter Obi's refusal to donate played a role in his rejection by Mbaka. Now he has said if Peter Obi doesn't want his political life to end, he should come and apologise at Adoration ground. What kind of talk is that?

shosky1794:
You shall know the the truth and the truth shall set you free. This is the second time he has prophesied a Buhari win and it came to pass. You of course can continue in pain and delusion, failure and defeat can be really painful but you will be alright las las

Maybe Tinubu is also a prophet since he also predicted Buhari's win twice.

Mbaka got angry with Peter Obi because he refused to make a donation. We watched that video in December. It was at that point he told Peter Obi that he and Atiku would fail. So if Peter Obi had donated 20 million naira that day, what would have happened? Would he have prophesied victory for them? If Obi and Atiku were never going to win, what was the point cajoling him to make a donation that day?

It's only a matter of time. He will cry out against Buhari again. We saw him do that after his support for Buhari in 2015, till campaigns started again towards the end of last year.

GoTV:
This life is unpredictable. A whole Senate president feeling funky while gallivanting across the country to form political Don dada has been relegated to oblivion just because of stupid pride and greed. His last hope of political resurrection would have been an Atiku presidency which will never happen. Saraki has become an ordinary Nigerian like you and i in a jiffy all because of a miscalculated defection. No more sirens, armed convoys, no more access to Abuja and kwara treasury. When he colluded with opposition to emerge senate president, he thought he was doing Buhari not knowing he was digging his political grave. Humility and tactfulness is key in politics. Asiwaju has been out of power for over a decade but still relevant and powerful. The overrated pompous saraki whose political sagacity has been about his ability to betray and backstab has been deleted into the trash can of national politics. I hope the Federal government bares it's fangs on saraki and use him as a scapegoat for upcoming dubious charlatans

Guy, forget! He will definitely rise back to power.
Orji Uzor Kalu had been facing defeats since his tenure ended as governor. Twice he contested for elections and lost. Didn't he just win a senatorial seat?

Fayose was defeated by Fayemi, yet he bounced back and defeated him after 4 years. The same Fayemi bounced back again after his loss.

Ribadu joined PDP and people said that was the end of his political life. Isn't he among the most relevant people in Adamawa APC today?

Kwankwaso was defeated by Shekarau. It took him 8 years to bounce back to power. Another 8 years later, he has lost out. Nobody can say what will happen to him in the next 4 or 8 years time.

I have given all these examples just to let you know that it's too early to decide the future of Saraki. Just let the new people that have gained the power manage it first. In the next 4 years, Kwarans will decide if the new guys are truly better. That's how Kogi people were desperate to end the rule of PDP in their state. They got what they wanted, but have never rested since Yahaya Bello came into power. Let's not be too much in a hurry to conclude that it's over for Saraki.

bender79:
Atiku should have picked a SW VP.

Would that have made him win? Even if he had Buhari's SW votes and Buhari had his, he would still lose. The people that made him win are NE and NW electorates, and I don't think having a Yoruba man on his ticket would have made much difference to their voting pattern.

fiizznation:
Don't be silly please. Who named the stadium 'sani abacha', the people of kano state or the government/military regime?

Mohammed abacha has been contesting for the governorship of kano state for about 12yrs now, and in any election he doesn't even get the 2nd position because people don't usually vote for him simply because of his late father's 'atrocity'.


We don't reward corruption here in the north, understand this.

But Buhari said Abacha didn't steal anything. Buhari was Abacha's right hand man. How come Abacha was corrupt and Buhari is a man of integrity?

BaaleOko:
Maybe you're right, but on a comparative scale a Tambuwal would have done way better in the North. But at the end it would take a very special type of politician to beat Buhari in the North... as much as I don't like his administration, I have to admit he's a man greatly admired and loved by his people in the North.

You're right. I detest his administration to my marrows, but I've now confirmed that Northerners don't joke with him. APC should start planning for the future early enough because by 2023 when he will no longer be eligible to contest, I wonder how they can mobilize supporters for another victory. He's obviously the sole reason for APC's victory.

Corrinthians:
Someone ask Uche Thirdus, the oldest experienced Wailer, if democracy is still *under threat*. I am hoping he would protest against this result as well, with Reno in tow.

Akpabio.. incoming SSG!! I hail you sir.

No be only SSG, he go even comot Osinbajo put am for VP. Buhari that cannot trust southerners will carry SSG and give Akpabio. Nonsense!