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@kingoflag

If you really believe the same Boko Haram that cannot write a proper sentence in english is the same one carrying out these bombings (Just because they are eager to claim responsibility- probably in hopes of their own amnesty and cash settlement) then I say the original perpetrators of these dastardly acts surely got you all where they want you!

Thinks so too.

These guys are doing so much damage to the image of Islam. May they be brought to justice soon.

What a sad tale.

It appears we all are acting out the strict to blow up Nigeria.

BH and its alqaeda or whoever runs the show there decides to pit us against one another like Muslims against Xtians, North against South, Hausas / Fulanis against North Minority, etc by the model use in Iraq. Different ethnic / Identities will take up arms against the perceived oppressors and the whole country will go up in flame. And here we are, all working to help them to achieve this by attacking ourselves and people who are themselves victims of the current systems.

I will think we need to tread softly on how we abuse innocent people. If the govt will live up to its responsibility, the killings would have been averted. It was reported that intelligence report have mentioned this attacks and govt still fail to stop the attack.

[b]Vanguard 27th Dec.

Islamic scholars condemn Xmas day bombings
On December 27, 2011 · In News | 12:50 amTweet

Kano—Islamic scholars in Kano have condemned the bomb attacks in churches around the country on Christmas Day.

The scholars described the attacks as “inhuman and wicked.”

Sheik Muhammad Isa described the attack as “unfortunate and heartless,” adding that that no worshiper should be attacked at a place of worship, especially on holy days.

He said the attackers were not adherents of any faith as no true believer could cause such harm to innocent people.

Sheikh Usman Saif, another cleric, said God would not spare the bombers “for using a religious period to shed blood and upset people.

“How can a person or a group of people, who believe in God hurt people at such a period when people were praying to their God?”

He urged the government to step up security measures.

… lawmaker, too
By Tina akannam
Dutse—Senator Danladi Sankara, representing Jigawa North Central in the National Assembly, yesterday, condemned the Christmas day bombings in some parts of northern states of the country, describing the perpetrators as wicked Nigerians opposed to the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP-led government.

Sankara, however, appealed against reprisal attacks in other parts of the country.

He said: “There is no doubt that the unfortunate blasts on Christmas day were targeted at innocent worshippers to provoke Nigerians against the leadership of the ruling party.

“These acts are condemnable in every sense of it.”[/b]


Tell me how this is going to stop BH? Whether Sultan speaks out or not, BH will stay if the govt does not act decisely.

@homerac7

Since Jonathan's incompetence is a done deal and we now look at the Sultan to stop BH? Can we hand the authourity to act to the Sultan if your logic will have substance. Please read through the statement credited to sultan at the begining of this post. Please read below what the Sultan said about violence in this same post.

''Speaking on extremism and violence in the country, he said Islam was never in support of those who use violence to achieve their aims. aims.''

I also know the Sultan have on many occaasions spoken out against violence, terror and extremism. Like babaearly said, has any of the haters here risen to support the families of those have been gunned down by BH for speaking out against the group. If the Sultan fears for his life, would you advise him to speak out so loud as to be targetted and killed if he were your father? You want him to be bold but how many of the posters here are bold to come out to participate in peaceful rallies? The oil subsidy rallies are may be coming, how many of you are ready to show the bravery you ask the Sultan to do?

I insist our way to finding end to terror lies not with the Sultan but the authority empowered to protect our lives and properties. As long as we don't demand performance from such people and allow our passion, age long bias and sentiment to erode our reasons, we will be in the same unprogressive spot.

Honestly folks,

How can a call for unity among muslims be regarded as a call for BH? Incredible.

Why not direct your anger at the right authority you invested the responsiblity to protect you. I gues the beaf and Leomax will be smiling that the Nigerian fools again fell for religious bigotry and ddeflected the heat from their principal. Blaming people who have no authority to solve our problems for the problems is totally myopic.

22 Million Nigerian gave GEJ the mandate to protect the lives of Nigerians. If he is not delivering, why can't we demand performance? When are we going to be objective in Nigeria.

Quote from @bayooooo

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection." Quar'an 9:29


This is a age long hypocrisy. You have quoted out of context to justify your myopic view / stereotyping of Islam.  Much as you guys may derive joy in bashing muslims for the sins of a few bad eggs, do not ignore the fact that hatred only breed further hatred.  Islam does not support taking of innocent lives and terror.
There are good muslims all over the world and I wonder why you guys cannot look beyond the bad and appreciate positive contributions of good muslims.
At a time in the history of xtianity, wars were waged in the name of the cross in Europe and innocent people were killed. Xtianity has outlived this and Islam certainly will.

Nigerians never cease to get it wrong on issues despite a belated high self perception.

Sultan has condemned terror many times yet it did not stop. Whose responsibility is it to secure lifes in this country? Sultan / govt? Do you blame Oritsejafor for the sins of all xtians or suppose xtians? If there is proper policing in this country leading to the arrest of the true boko haram, whatever the sultan says will be inconsequential. You guys flogging the eminent sultan are reacting to govt failures and not to the sultan's statement.
Let us learn to be objective as spewing hates will only worsen our already fragile unity.
We need common sense from the leadership and followers to turn things round in this country. More importantly, the Nigeria belongs to Muslims,xtians and others and we should not push ourselves to another Rwandan / somalia .

Thumps up to
@Truthtela, kobojunkie, babaearly and others who have objectively done justice to this discuss.
To the

beaf, leomax , I say when the law of karma will one day apply. Those who refuse to do justice for whatever reasons best known to them will reap injustice at the most time unimagined.

GEJ has failed woefully.

Must the political class inflict more pain on the masses while they continue in the culture of waste and looting? Sambo budgeted $20M for travels and stationery, food allocation for state house $1B and lots of other waste. GEJ continue to increase SA who have nothing to offer yet increasing cost of governance but he is quick to remove subsidy.

If this is the way he knows how to help the masses, then he can as well keep his help. He should cut down drastically govt waste.

IMF policies have never helped a developing nation. Brazil jettisioned the IMF policies and recorded growth.
If IMF praises GEJ, then they know he is doing their bidding to keep Nigerian underdeveloped.  Europe and US have got no where else to sell their expensive and obsolete labour and product to other than Africa with the recent rise of Asian Tigers.

Remember David Cameron asked GEJ to increase NIG,s trade with UK ten times on reason being that UK fights for good governance and human rights in Africa unlike China. So the comparative cost advantage of China should be ignored on moral grounds. Yet the West still receive loots from political office holders especially Nigeria.

If GEJ follows this IMF, he is bound to fail.

The solution to our problems lies with us in using our God given intelligence and stopping corruption. Do we need IMF to tell us we need to revive Agriculture to create employment ? Do we need IMF to tell us we need to plug loopholes and drain pipes in govt coffers and use the money to build refineries and provide facilities generally?
Do we need IMF to improve the quality of our education and technical skills to domestic the huge sums paid to expatriates snatching jobs Nigerians should do?

The list is endless.
Funnily, the west laugh at our leaders for foolishly swallowing these stupid IMF/World Bank conditions hook line and sinker.

May God deliver us from foolish and ignorant leadership worst greedy.

With due respect, the proff got it wrong.

Johnie
Those buses are heading towards the east (Ajah). The opposite direction (west) leads to LASU.
Those pictures were taken near Jakande!


The guys actually came from Jakande and returned there after the assualt. This I saw clearly as I made my way home after the protest turned violent. For us who went, we did what we could do. The pain of collecting toll has started and it has just began.

In the UK, you have to pay for a parking slot in your workplace.

If they can guarantee judicious use of the money, and the road is well looked after, you gotta pay, guys. That's the way it is. You have to embrace development.
What joy do you derive from driving a 25 million naira car on a road that is riddled with pot holes?


What joy does a Naija rich man derive in flying first class only to get to Lagos and drive the whole stretch of road called the 3rd Mainland Bridge without street lights? Which is more dangerous? Class of flight or a dangerous road? It seems crazy and stooopid.

I am sorry.

If it is so easy to survive in Nigeria most of the diaspora like OLA ONE will be here. Your comment shows you are yet to grasp the core of this matter. We at Lekki axis mind you not Lekki Phase one resident only because the resident spreads from Lekki Phase one to Epe wants development. But we do not want slavery.  A govt that collects huge Personal Income Taxes from my work, and insist I pay to go to that work on a road that have been in existence before the govt. The rate of tolling  and the yrs of concession are outrageous . This is the only road to our abode and should we not at least enjoy the benefit of our taxes? What else have the taxes done for us on this axis? There are no schools, no hospitals, we provide our own water, our electricity. Can you pay 25000 just to go to work maybe after paying $500 - $1500 as Personal income tax without benefit?

Some comments here are really saddening.

The head of Lagos tax collection body spent whooping sums on daughter's wedding without any legitimate means to explain the source. A case of the elite in power stealing taxes dry and asking the regular hardworking class to cough out more to steal on Lekki axis.

Humnmmm na wah oo. I doubt if you live in lagos at all? This is a common sight on Lagos Road. Did you see the STV Report at all? Showing about 7 Buses loaded with boys reffered to as "LASU Students" arriving at the protest point with cheers from some of them. The Protest did not go violent until the "LASU" student showed up. Meanwhile, None of the Media Houses reported Thugs with any evidence. In this age of technology and telecoms advancement in Nigeria how will thugs come to distrupt a protest and nobody could record any convincing picture either motion or still. Couldn't this picture be that of the so called LASU student when they were leaving?
Wetin LASU students with Tolling of Lekki Expressway?

The burden of Convincing Evidence behoves on the people that made any allegation!!! QED

2AMLASGIDI,

It is left for you to believe or not. I force nobody to believe my post. But mind you, I was at the protest and I saw these people myself. They were not the LASU boys that were part of the protest. Inside the bus was also a ACN flag apart from the NURTW flag openly displayed when the protesters were being assaulted.

I am not a politician just a hardworking Nigerian that will be affected by this ACN slavery on the resident.

peace

Occupy Lekki Protest

Pictures of the protesters at occupy Lekki

ACN Thugs leaving after distrupting the peaceful protest

PERSONAL INCOME TAX FOR MY ME AND WIFE AMOUNT TO N300K PER MONTH.

WHY ON EARTH SHOULD WE PAY N50K TO GO TO THAT WORK.

IS THIS GOVERNANCE. THEY ARE NOT EVEN TALKING OF TAX REBATE.

THEIR CHIEF TAX OFFICER BLEW WHOOPING AMOUNTS ON DAUGTHER'S WEDDING EVIDENCE OF FRAUD IN TAX MANAGEMENT YET THE ACN GOONS HAVE DONE NOTHING TO IT.

MONKEY DEY WORK BABOON DEY CHOP, AND MUMU WEY DEY RECEIVE CRUMBS TODAY DEY SUPPORT D BABOONS.

[b]AKAINZO

I am quite amazed at all the emotions displayed so far, but hardly any gainful analysis of the toll situation. All I see are abuses and various vituperations. It's quite a bad taste indeed.

For me, the Lekki toll situation is first a lesson for Fashola in public perception management and also ability to engage stakeholders properly.

Truth be told, prior to the LCC's so called "adding one extra lane",  a trip from Chevron to Ozumba junction can take like 3 hours!!! Now that same journey takes about 15 minutes. Which one would Lekki residents prefer?

The so called alternative route through Oniru did exist before the LCC construction, but what was its state prior to now, how many people ventured to pass there when the Mobil junction was still a single lane? Now that same road can be used as an alternative to the 1st Toll Plaza. So indeed there is an alternative route if one doesn't feel inclined to pay toll, only problem is you can't expect the alternative to be as good as the main one.

Now many have said it is not only the rich that stay in Lekki, that is indeed the truth. The other truth however is that the poor should not pay, AND they would not pay. They do not pay as they simply do not own cars. The toll is for vehicles passing, not for human beings. And BRT buses are available as public transport for them to use.

Also while Lekki is majorly residential, there are many companies also making Lekki there head office/warehouse/factory/office thus Lekki is not entirely residential as there is even an EPZ right there.

Now tell me, why is the computed cost for the so called average "poor family" in Lekki based on 2 cars!!! Are we saying a family with 2 cars is poor To my mind the average poor family would not have 2 cars, neither would they need to commute to VI daily except they work there. Also, the only reasons indigenes would commute to VI daily is for work, or are they going on a visit to relations daily?

This is a protest by the elites who wants to enjoy the benefits of the expanded road but would rather not pay a dime to get it maintained. The hypocrisy needs to stop. This so called villagers are using that same upgraded road as reason to sell their lands at 2.5M per plot rather than the 900K it was before the upgrade. So who is fooling who?
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This is a concoction of lies to that only those who don't live on this axis will believe.

Truth be told, traffic have not improved on the road. Compare off peak traffic to peak traffic as evidence of dicongestion is cheap lies. Between Lekki R/about and Ozumba link bridge, it still takes average one hour during peak traffic for a distance of one kilometer orthereabout.

The so called elite you accuse of wanting free service actually pay heavy taxes for no service. My family along pays N300K per month and we would be making nothing less than N50,000 monthly to go to that work that generate N300K to LASG. Is this fair?


AKAINZO please note
Only those who collude with the ACN thieves will endorse the day light robbery called tolling.

Attached are pictures of ACN thugs departing after beating us up at the protest yesterday.

Good government you will say.

A protester’s account of Occupy Lekki Protest

My husband and I were there at the protest.  We are survivors.  
It was a peaceful protest (chanting and singing protest songs.)  The heavily armed police men harrased, arrested some of the crowd un-necessarily and did all they could to disrupt the protest.  The next thing we knew was tear gas shot into the crowd of peaceful protesters.  The next assault came from hired thugs, ACN members.  They came in cars and buses and started beating up the crowd. People were running helter-skelter (including females) and some had to jump over the fence built by LCC and injured themselves in the process. My husband and I were amongst the lucky few to have left the scene a bit later than most others, we had to quickly remove the protest T-shirts and caps when we were chased and almost beaten by the thugs.  We had the opportunity on our way home, in our car to recognise the same thugs who harassed us, in their vehicles leaving the scene and branching off at Jakande bus-stop.  They had ACN banners in these vehicles. In fact, they were making a show of their thuggery from the Maruwa round about (where we sighted them) till they branched off at Jakande roundabout. Obviously hired thugs/members of the ACN party.
Majority (if not all) of those who participated in this protest are professionals who want to voice their opinion about the tolls and had NOTHING to do with politics.  Tax-payers who want to express their voice, the same way protests are being done around the world. It is a shame that the people who were not there, could say that the crowd of responsible people chanting and singing protests songs, could be agents of other political parties.
Our protest
For those who are not aware, LCC did not build the road.  
They only expanded to three lanes from two (2).  They also seemingly beautified the area with pavements, streetlights that do not work beyond Lekki Phase 1.  LCC (poor job done actually) expanded the existing road built by Jakande and constructed pedestrian flyovers that are of inferior quality (nothing compared to what exists along the Ikorodu Road) and wants to collect tolls for the next thirty years at exorbitant rates.  To add insult to all these, they decided that not only are they collecting the tolls at a single point but THREE (3) within a 25km stretch. INCREDIBLE!!!  Alas, they decided that they were going to collect tolls before finishing the entire road work that had been concessioned to them.
Fashola claim that they need funds to carry out projects in other parts of Lagos and the concession of this axis is necessary in order to satisfy other parts of Lagos.  So the masses in this area should pay for the entire state when they also pay the same taxes that other people pay.  
• The government built the Bourdillon road (very high quality by Julius Berger and not the inexperienced HiTech being used by LCC for poor quality jobs) and decided not to toll. WHY  
• They built Igando road (Julius Berger again and very good quality) and decided not to toll.  WHY again?  
• They beautified Ikeja and reconstructed parts of the roads in that axis and decided not to toll.  WHY again and again
My demands
• Do I get a tax rebate for the tolls paid for going to work, coming back home, taking my children to school, going to the hospital and going to the market?
• Why do I have to incur more costs than my contemporary who lives on the mainland because I was stupid enough to build my house along this axis? Because this now amounts to stupidity, if I have to pay tolls, to go home.
REALITY
1 Apart from this so-called expansion on the road, what other government presence is there on this axis.  And yet this axis must pay for other part of the State.
2 How do you toll a cosmopolitan road that thousands of people ply, several times in a day, for 30 years.  All in the name that you spend billions of naira to construct the road. And expect that the people will take this without a pinch of salt.
3 If you start tolling now before completing the road, then we are already paying for the construction of the remaining part of the road work and then we should not be asked to pay at any other toll plaza again.
4 The government does not have money to construct, but the Head of the State Board of Internal Revenue (a civil servant) is so rich as to lavishly celebrate his daughter’s wedding for a stunning amount (obviously taxpayers money).  And he is getting away with obvious corruption when people are slaving to pay taxes to the Government. That is obviously acceptable to the powers that be, in the state.
5 My children will only remember tolls for their youthful lives. The question is WHY??

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Preaching in a bus is a violation of the right of the other occupants who may wants their quitness. Preaching in a bus is an abuse of freedom of speech. We should tow the path of moderation in whatever we do in this country. Despite all the noise born again, churches in all streets spreading like wildfire, there is no iota of improvement in our conduct. Corruption have so pervaded even the churches such that it is a business to make mega Billions for the pastor, the spouse and the offsprings.
The wise should reflect.
If the other religion decides to preach in a bus , would you the fire spilting evangelist like the forced listening? Definitely not. So why do it to others. Must I be forced to listen?

Most of us are being sentimental on this isssue because it bothers on religion. In UK where i stay presently, you can wear whatever you like on your school uniform. Nobody cares since it will not contribute to what you learn. Even at work places, you can where whatever you like.

Why are we so much disturbed if somebody wears hijab to school? Will that disturb what the teacher intends to teach or will that aid the student's understanding of the lecture eing delivered by the teacher?

NIGERIANS, WAKE UP!!!


This post makes a lot of Sense.

I am flexible but don't have 9m. Thought this car had done 2000 miles ?

Still available = still interested = if you change your mind.

Contact me.

Dear Nairaland,

Are there dear nairaland willing to join the movement against tolling on Lekki Epe Expressway? Please drop your email for further briefing. Mother of all rallies on the way at Lekki.

Me thinks that generally men have weaknesses just like women. One weakness with majority of men whether rich or poor, black or white or whatever is love of women. They don't get fulfilled with one woman for a life time. Men just want to keep having more and more regardless they are married or not. Married women who can stomach the excessess stay in matrimony while those who cannot get out. It is a choice and no man should be considered immune to philandering. Women should decide what they can live it.

Babasuny,

I am interested but for the price. Can we discuss?
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Little did we envisage that this native and illiterate people are envious of the trash going-on in Pakistan, Afghanistan and other moslem countries. To me after watching the 'fuel project, know your enemy' somebody posted to one of the tread on this site. I believe all these moslem trashes is going to end one day when good people all over the world will unite and ban this moon worshipping religion. They have been expose as noting more than idol 'moon' worshippers. Mohammed only asked his people to regard 'Al'la' moon Goddess who had many sub-gods under her not to worship the sub-god but regard the 'Al al' the main moon god as their only God. That is their Allah today. Go on folks Google this: 'The fuel project: know your enemy' your eyes will open. You don't expects people who are being beaten not to cry. Moslem's must expects fire for fire when they choose to put bomb to people's head in the name of their 'Moon God'. They must expects a fight back. They foolish-ling thinking they can violation and murder people in the name of Alla, which is in their holy book anyway and the people will just sit back. I don't know how many people they are able to convert doing all this atrocities. There days are numbered.

A clear case of ignorance. Good Muslims have got a lot of enlightenment to do if there are pple who think of the faith like fergie.