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Kobojunkie:
Your confession here again is simply.. you believe Jesus Christ to be a liar by your declaration.

If you refuse to learn from the mouth of the one you claim to be your master, who then do you think your true master is? Are you sure the relationship you claim to have is with Him and not your egos still?

.....The event started when Jesus disciples ate food with unwashed hands. Then the Pharisees condemned the action and probably explained it as sinful act....

Jesus disagreed with them and said eating food with unwashed hands is not a sin.

I have posted severally telling you that even though Jesus said eating food with unwashed hands is not a sin, He did not thereby set a principle for His followers - ( a principle) if you are a Jesus follower you can eat food without washing hands after all it is not a sin.

New question:
don't you wash your hands?

Previous question are you one of the people He made Kings to His Father?.....

Kobojunkie:
Your confession here again is simply.. you believe Jesus Christ to be a liar by your declaration.

If you refuse to learn from the mouth of the one you claim to be your master, who then do you think your true master is? Are you sure the relationship you claim to have is with Him and not your egos still?

In all your posts here that I have been reading, I can not get any meaningful explanation of what you are quoting and this is because you are trying hard to cut off the foundation of the event.

The event started when Jesus disciples ate food with unwashed hands. Then the Pharisees condemned the action and probably explained it as sinful act....

jmoore:
Jesus that came from heaven converted water into wine.

He also drank it.

Which other 'heaven minded' are you talking about?

18 “For John came neither eating nor
drinking, and they say, ‘He has a demon!’ 19
“The Son of Man came eating and drinking,
and they say, ‘Behold, a gluttonous man and
a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and
sinners!’ Yet wisdom is vindicated by her
deeds.” [Mat 11:18-19 NASB]


Even Paul told Timothy to take some alcohol.

1 Timothy 5:23, NIV: "Stop drinking only water,
and use a little wine because of your stomach
and your frequent illnesses."


That doctor of yours is probably halfbaked.

*. John 2:10 "KJV:And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth GOOD WINE; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept THE GOOD WINE until now."

GOOD WINE is what Jesus gave the people, good wine is what Himself drank,

GOOD WINE is what we are going to drink at the marriage supper of the Lamb.

*. Mark 14:25 "KJV:Verily I say unto you, I WILL DRINK NO MORE OF THE FRUIT OF THE VINE, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God."

note! Jesus called what He used to drink THE FRUIT OF THE VINE. In other words this is fruit juice, good wine, NON INTOXICANTS.

Do you know that even those who small igbo ( weeds) do say that Jesus smoked igbo. Or you've never heard them before?....

jesusjnr2020:
Please tell them oh.

Some would now ignorantly come and claim that Jesus used to drink alcohol, "but wisdom is justified of her children".

God bless.

They are looking for excuses or reasons to continue

Kobojunkie:
1. What has the washing of hands to in fact do with the lesson that Jesus Christ taught His disciples and even went even further to explain in plain terms to them in that context?

2. If you refuse to learn from the mouth of the one you claim to be your master, who then do you think your true master is? Are you sure the relationship you claim to have is with Him and not your egos still?

You can see that there's nothing in that verses that suggest He said we should not wash our hands,
or take alcohol. thanks
The summary of what He is saying is that UNWASHED HANDS IS NOT A SIN.

He explained in details by showing that adultery, theft, murder, and so on, are not as a result of unwashed hand.

These sins are not stimulated by eating food with unwashed hands.
These sins are conceived in the mind ...

Unwashed hands, unlike alcohol, does not affect the mind. Alcohol stimulate these things that are conceived the mind.

I know He has made me a king, Kings don't take alcohol, Proverbs 31:4.

The question is ARE YOU ONE OF THE KINGS?

@kobojunkie
....THEIR WINE IS THE POISON OF DRAGONS, and the cruel venom of asps

Our own wine is the PREVIOUS BLOOD OF Jesus....

they have their wisdom, understanding, kingdom, etc.

While we have ours. Don't crave for their own, only know what is yours. Never give the devil chance - Ephesians 4:27

@ kobojunkie
Verse that describes alcohol as poison:
*. Deuteronomy 32:33 "
KJV: THEIR WINE IS THE POISON OF DRAGONS, and the cruel venom of asps."

Now, consider the use of the word THEIR... who are they?
Those that belong to the other side.

WINE is divided into two, i.e two types of wine. This two types of... is used for almost all things. Examples:

A. Courage: good courage - Joshua 1:6 and bad courage - numbers 16:1-30;

B. Wisdom: Heavenly/ godly wisdom - James 3:17 and earthly wisdom - James 3:15;

C. WINE: good/ tonic wine - john 2:10, mark 14:25 and strong drink or alcoholic wine Proverbs 31: 4.

*. John 2:10 "KJV:And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth GOOD WINE; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept THE GOOD WINE until now."

GOOD WINE is what Jesus gave the people, good wine is what Himself drank,

GOOD WINE is what we are going to drink at the marriage supper of the Lamb.

*. Mark 14:25 "KJV:Verily I say unto you, I WILL DRINK NO MORE OF THE FRUIT OF THE VINE, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God."

note! Jesus called what He used to drink THE FRUIT OF THE VINE. In other words this is fruit juice, good wine, NON INTOXICANTS.

Do you know that even those who small igbo ( weeds) do say that Jesus smoked igbo. Or you've never heard them before?....

@ kobojunkie

One of the things He helps me to know about alcohol is that it is described as POISON.

And alcohol being a POISON should not be managed. That is, don't say let me take a little of it.

No matter how little a poison is, it is still a poison. That is to say, it's not how big or small it is that determines whether it's harmful or not.

The above point is my 2nd reason why I created this topic. He had let me know this far back, so when I read similar thing from the net, I'm happy.

The link again
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www..com/talk/topic,498286.0.html&ved=2ahUKEwjU8MbvgeTwAhWtwAIHHTt0BWsQFjAAegQIBRAC&usg=AOvVaw2zdOYo7oNhziZFUPT8IFeV

Kobojunkie:
So, even though Jesus Christ, the New Covenant Law of God Hinself declared that there is nothing wrong with drinking alcohol, you feel that going around the Truth of God Himself, you can come up with a better prescription than Jesus Christ for all Christian's right?

The way many of you so called Christians reason never ceases go astound me.

Jesus did not teach that HIS FOLLOWERS SHOULD NEVER WASH THEIR HANDS (some of you are trying to make it looks like that)

He did not teach that HIS FOLLOWERS SHOULD TAKE ALCOHOL, NO!

The summary of that teaching is UNWASHED HAND IS NOT A SIN.

Alcohol can/ have been causing health complications. It is not wise for any followers of Jesus to go into eating or drinking things that can cause him some health issues.

I have a question which no drinker of alcohol has ever answered me.

The question is - what is your reason for drinking alcohol?

True christians are:
1. Peculiar people
2. Priests
3. Princes....

Whoever understands and values these exulted positions shall willingly and happily bid alcohol goodbye.

And the grace of God is sufficient...

*. 1 Peter 2:9 "KJV:But ye are a chosen generation, a ROYAL PRIESTHOOD, an HOLY NATION, a PECULIAR PEOPLE; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light"

Dtruthspeaker:
Praises Be to God! The remainder of our Journey is to Hold Tightly on to Rock of our Salvation that we may be found blameless in His Sight, even through this wicked and great evil days which was not seen before, that we be with Him to be Separated No More!

Amen!!
His grace is sufficient for us.

Kobojunkie:
please stop believing the doctrines and traditions of men over the Truth of God.

Jesus Christ made it more than clear to us all that it is not what you eat or ingest that makes you sinful or unclean or defiles you but what comes out of what is stored up in your heart.

Believing that something is to blame for your sin is a well known form of delusion. Believe instead the Truth of God and be made free from slavery to sin and all associated delusions.

It is not good for christians to drink wine and I'm convinced about it.

*. Proverbs 31:4 "KJV: IT IS NOT FOR KINGS, O Lemuel, IT IS NOT FOR KINGS TO DRINK WINE; nor for princes strong drink:"

*. Revelation 5: 10 "KJV: AND HAST MADE US unto our God KINGS and priests: and we shall reign on the earth"

*. Revelation 1:6 "KJV: AND HATH MADE US KINGS AND PRIESTS UNTO GOD and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen."

note:
IT IS NOT FOR KINGS TO DRINK WINE;
AND ( Jesus) HATH MADE US KINGS AND PRIESTS UNTO GOD

Kings and priests are not allowed to take alcohol:

*. Leviticus 10:8 "KJV:And the Lord spake unto Aaron, saying,
9
KJV: DO NOT DRINK WINE NOR STRONG DRINK, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations:"

I'm going to use this opportunity to post many things the Lord has helped me to know about alcohol intake:
those to take, those not to take and the reasons.

jmoore:
Jesus that came from heaven converted water into wine.

He also drank it.

Which other 'heaven minded' are you talking about?

18 “For John came neither eating nor
drinking, and they say, ‘He has a demon!’ 19
“The Son of Man came eating and drinking,
and they say, ‘Behold, a gluttonous man and
a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and
sinners!’ Yet wisdom is vindicated by her
deeds.” [Mat 11:18-19 NASB]


Even Paul told Timothy to take some alcohol.

1 Timothy 5:23, NIV: "Stop drinking only water,
and use a little wine because of your stomach
and your frequent illnesses."

That doctor of yours is probably halfbaked.

"[/b]...Stop drinking only water,
and use a little wine because of your stomach
and your frequent illnesses."[b]

How many people are in the bear parlor as a result of their doctors prescription?

jmoore:
Jesus that came from heaven converted water into wine.

He also drank it.

Which other 'heaven minded' are you talking about?

18 “For John came neither eating nor
drinking, and they say, ‘He has a demon!’ 19
“The Son of Man came eating and drinking,
and they say, ‘Behold, a gluttonous man and
a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and
sinners!’ Yet wisdom is vindicated by her
deeds.” [Mat 11:18-19 NASB]


Even Paul told Timothy to take some alcohol.

1 Timothy 5:23, NIV: "Stop drinking only water,
and use a little wine because of your stomach
and your frequent illnesses."
That doctor of yours is probably halfbaked.

In my post I said no doctor had ever told me that the cause of my illness is refusal to take alcohol.

Has any doctor told you otherwise?
I will like to KNOWMORE...

madegreatbygrace:
There are more praiseworthy testimonies. The most excellent is ...... I have led xyz amount of souls to Christ. That is the only testimony that brings rejoicing in heaven.

"[/b]... That is the only testimony that brings rejoicing in heaven"[b]

My deliverance also brings rejoicing in Heaven and earth...

MaxInDHouse:
This is really commendable!
For Jesus said:
"If, now, your right eye is making you stumble, tear it out and throw it away from you. For it is better for you to lose one of your members than for your whole body to be pitched into Ge·henʹna" {Matthew 5:29} though he emphasized that the intake of food or drinks doesn't defile you {Matthew 15:17} yet whatever debars your spiritual growth you should avoid it completely! Matthew 19:12

The highlighted has nothing to do with the heavens because Jesus is the leader of all those going to heaven, and he drank alcoholic beverages (but responsibly) Luke 7:31-35 compare to Deuteronomy 14:26
However you've done well for avoiding what is disturbing your spiritual growth!

[/b]"This is really commendable"[b]

Thanks. All glory to God

Dtruthspeaker:
Sorry, it occurred to me later what prompted your post. Congratulations.

Did you also solve the woman issue? Kai-kai always goes with women and other things which are not good!

Thanks so much...

Yes, completely delivered to the glory of God.

Dtruthspeaker:
So how is this praiseworthy? Is it not for thyself?

What the grace of God can do. To encourage you that you can do without alcohol.

I used to like and drink Kai Kai ( hot drink)... I celebrate His mercy and grace...

Kobojunkie:
Rubbish!

So when Jesus Christ declared that it is not what you eat/drink that makes you unclean, Jesus Christ lied abi?

Well, you surely know what transpired in the story that led to that statement.

The Pharisees condemned His disciples for EATING WITHOUT WASHING HANDS.

Jesus then stated that EATING WITHOUT WASHING HANDS is not a sin.

His statements is not in any approve intake of alcohol.

Neither does His statements certify eating with unwashed hands.

Christians must necessary avoid whatever will affect their health.

I wish you Heaven at the end of your journey!

Since I accepted the Lord as my Saviour, 21 years ago, I have stayed away from any form of alcohol.

And one of the joyous things is that I have never fell sick at any time and the doctor said it is as a result of refusal to take alcohol.

So, some days back, when I read the findings of a certain study about alcohol intake and the results...

I said "no matter what some Christians may say in favour of alcohol intake, I'm convinced that alcohol is not for the heaven minded". Proverbs 31:4;

You can check out the link

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www..com/talk/topic,498286.0.html&ved=2ahUKEwj4jIWKwd_wAhVUSsAKHXbKDVMQFjAAegQIBRAC&usg=AOvVaw2zdOYo7oNhziZFUPT8IFeV

Emusan:
The @highlight is what we called hypocrisy which they are known for.

High level hypocrisy...

As the fight for gender equality continues, what often come to my mind is that one day they will demand that:
1. The woman should also pay groomprice to his parents

2. The man also should have a womb.

But when humanity go against God setting, it always ends in pains and frustration.

sunshineV:
watin werey dey talk?

Repent or you perish

DesignAndBuild:
So this one too is for charity

Poor charity, you've suffered enough

.

You know some people think God over looks and forgives their evil deeds when they do charity works.

But repentance, believing Jesus, prayers for forgiveness and grace not to go back to these sins are the Biblical steps to activate God's mercy.

*. Proverbs 28:13 "KJV:He that covereth his SINS shall not prosper: but WHOSO CONFESSETH AND FORSAKETH THEM SHALL HAVE MERCY"

*. Acts 3:19 "KJV: REPENT YE THEREFORE, AND BE CONVERTED, THAT YOUR SINS MAY BE BLOTTED OUT, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord."

*. Romans 10:9 "KJV:That if thou shalt CONFESS with thy mouth THE LORD JESUS, AND shalt BELIEVE IN THINE HEART THAT GOD HATH RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD, THOU SHALT BE SAVED."

note! CONFESS THE LORD JESUS AND BELIEVE IN THINE HEART THAT GOD HATH RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD...

They will grow up and take their personal decisions.

But parents of the boy and the girl are not responsibly married...

Let's teach our children by examples

MaxInDHouse:
Brother you get time o!

Wetin you wan gain dey follow Apostates exchange words?

When he's tired he will take his leave!

Max is overwhelmed by commenters... lol

MaxInDHouse:
I'll keep it for those who needs it!

Those who need it are here reading it. Or what do you think?

RussellRutherfo:

What in the World is this Mumu Watchtower Babble Crapper and Rutherford's Gospel Dispenser saying.

2 Samuel 7:2, 12-13. Arian Heretic and Babble Crap Tracts Distributor. The real question you should be asking and not all these out of context Bible verses you are quoting. I don't know if you and MaxD do this to distract the person from your organizational lies. I doubt if you Watchtower Babble tract Crappers even read and independently read all these Bible verses. The real question is where did you see the word "Jehovah" in the Masoretic Text of 2 Samuel 7:2; 13. This House that David proposed to build unto the name of the LORD(1Kings5:5 KJV) and What is this name according to Luke 1:31;32-33.

Masonic Hall Russellite&Alarmist False Date Propheciers. Deceiver, You quoted 1 Samuel 16:6 to try and make it seem that Prophet Samuel gave a prophecy when he looked at the outward appearance of Eliab and thought plus communicated to the LORD that definitely Eliab must be the One and Yehovah corrected him immediately. How you dribble this Bible verse to try and make the many embarrassing false prophecies with specific dates(1918, 1925, 1975, etcetera) of Watchtower Real Estate Corporation to seem the same thing will even baffle Satan your father self. Satan punish you there with your twisting and lies against the Word of God. If Yehovah is with your Babble Crap tracts distributing Corporation. Why did they not get corrected immediately by Yehovah before they took their countless fake dates predictions to the print like Elohim did with Prophet Samuel. Satan punish you and Stephen Lett there. You think you can swindle us as they swindled you, Mumu.

Yehovah allowed the Watchtower Donation receiving Corporation to make mistake 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, etcetera and never whispered to the False and no longer discreet slave of Russell Abu like He did with Prophet Samuel immediately. Prophet Samuel didn't even prophecy here. He thought in his heart as any man would and immediately Yehovah corrected him informing in verse 7 not to look at the outward countenance of Eliab. No where here did Prophet Samuel say this even to Eliab as prophecy. Pathetic Satanic Liars and Watchtower pawns. You are a mad publisher and I have your time to disgrace you today and onwards.

You next quoted Luke 19:11. What a Pathetic Satanic Bag Carrying Liar. You are cursed seriously. Jesus here was in Jericho, not too far far from Jerusalem and about to enter Jerusalem. Jesus Christ spoke a Parable to his disciples. The Greek "autos" meaning "they" in reference to his disciples who were still Phariseous in understanding the scriptures just like Pharisee Jews and Jehovah Witnesses(Modern day Sadducees). The Pentecost. The Holy Spirit was yet to come on them. They were still in training under the Word of God/God(John 1:1-2...Note the Poison JW SilverSword NWT Bible changed God to "a god".

The Disciples and other Jews with him never Jesus Christ expected Jesus Christ as they neared to enter Jerusalem to show Himself as Messiah and the Political Saviour of Israel(they referring to the disciples and the Jews with Jesus Christ thought their entry into Jerusalem meant that the Kingdom of God would appear immediately). This was never a Prophecy by Jesus Christ or his disciples in training. This was a Normal expectation of the disciples just like every modern Israelite even today but look at how this Babble Crap tracts Bas.tard is trying to tie it to J.W false prophecies. I wish you were in my front. I would flog you 100strokes of the whip that Jesus failed to use when he chased the evil imposters(J.W) and thieves from the Temple.

Passover was approaching and from the records on ground by the Jew, Josephus that collaborate the Bible account. More than 2 million Pilgrims would pour into Jerusalem this period and the disciples and other Jews had expectation that the Kingdom of God would appear immediately. How is this a Prophecy by Jesus Christ or his disciples??

The disciples and the other Jews had no holy spirit and were thus foolish just like Jehovah Witnesses today lacking the Holy Spirit of God that bears witness of Jesus Christ. Hence, their groping in the darkness like the Jews before they caught the Holy Spirit and understood things better. Even this is not a prophecy by the Disciples. They gave no prophecy until the Spirit of God came on them and all were confirmed when they did but the Watchtower Donation receiving Society and Babble Crap tracts distributors claimed the Holy Spirit and Channel of communication as Jehovah's representative and failed woefully in the specific years they gave proving beyond all reasonable facts that they are SATAN' WITNESSES.

George MacDonald a pretty rhyme that best described this:
They were all looking for a King
To slay their foes and lift them high
He came a little baby thing
That made a woman cry.


Let me do a poor remix of this(Sing it like some of those Boring Russellite Masonic Hall Songs):
The Watchtower liars gave specific dates
So Jehovah will slay all the Christians and give them paradise
Jehovah/Jesus disappointed their false prophecies and specific dates
Now, they claim new light bulbs will help them rule invisibly in Paradise.


Babble Crap tract Bag Carrying Satanic Liar. Why did Jesus further tell them a Parable of a certain noble man who left to a far country and left the business in the hands of his servants till he returned back and they gave account to him. This was Jesus Christ teaching them in response to their expectation of now that he would as the King of this World leave for a far period of time but will be back and demand account from all. This was no Prophecy that you Masonic Hall Russellite is trying to use to explain away your many Watchtower Babble corporation's false prophecies.


The main sign of false Christian cults like Satanic Witnesses is the alarmist approach and puzzle to try and know what particular date or time the Kingdom of God will come. True Christians don't have that approach to God. This comes from a wicked and satanic state of mind to try and bribe God to hasten the destruction of those they consider worldly while they that are the true pawns of Satan would be given some sort Godly paradise for doing practically nothing. Exactly how the Jews were. Can you imagine the Satanic Witnesses were not even up to 4million when they gave all that false prophecies with specific dates as they were in such race for Satan to destroy many. Even now that they are about 8million J.W. Just one Pentecostal Church in Nigeria has reached more souls than them worldwide despite their show off for hundred of years with nothing really to show as result.

Will Jehovah be such wicked to destroy 8billion people just to please 8m satanic Witnesses and Masonic Hall Russellites?


The Answer is Nope.
The Kingdom of Yehovah awaits for the return of all Souls paid for by His Word, Jesus Christ in all generations.

[/b]"...would be given some sort Godly paradise for doing practically nothing..."[b]

This statement worth meditating upon.
What have they done more than others?...

RussellRutherfo:
I have been speaking to several Jeholies Witnesses and they have been so happy that the door to door thing is stopped for awhile.

In secrecy many of them detest the thing and the 8-Realtors of the Money Donation Trust-Will receiving Corporation of New York have been trying to move everything online so it is easy for them to adapt their lies codely (That is
One of the fruits of JW organisation) without anyone knowing unlike their many old books out there that they have tried unsuccessfully to retrieve all and that the "Apostates"(Ex-JWs) are making use of to burst open their stench filled history

You came out fully loaded for these guys...

achorladey:
To whom it concern!

Rephrasing Qalid to whom it concerns

You people and your God are confused, first you said you're the only religious organization doing preaching work of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob so whoever wants to worship your God (whom you claim is the Almighty) must join you in the house to house preaching as done by your religious organization aka....... Then whatever we try to tell you concerning preaching from house to house sounds as not the only method bit you insist unless we join you doing the same. But all of a sudden you're now telling us that the house to house preaching work or the Hallmark preaching method is now to be adjusted because your religious leaders aka Jesus representatives said so. Therefore since you're no more going from house to house to preach as earlier said as the Hallmark preaching method, you people are not longer worshipers of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Probably, "Jesus" appeared to them during or through the Covid-19 to reverse the mandate.

MaxInDHouse can explain better because he had wanted to explain/relate 1919 to 2019 revelation.

achorladey:
Abi in the voice of Max, those not going from house to house are NOISEMAKERS.

You still remember. He even said to you that because you are not having physical assembly, you are not doing the right thing.

How come they ( JWs) come dey follow your own line dey do online church meeting?

The accusers of the brethren will always be cast down:

*. Revelation 12: 10 "KJV:And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for THE ACCUSERS OF OUR BRETHREN IS CAST DOWN, which accused them before our God day and night."

*. 2 Timothy 3:3 "KJV:Without natural affection, trucebreakers, FALSE ACCUSERS, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,"