₦airaland Forum

okefranci:
Politics of 2023 presidential election appears unpredictable as many political gladiators on the platform of the All Progressive Congress (APC) are already jostling to succeed President Muhammadu Buhari. Political power is understandably expected to shift to the southern Nigeria after President Buhari must have completed his two terms of office. This calculation is based on the unwritten agreement of rotational presidency between the North and the South.

Undoubtedly, the leading and most popular of all the gladiators that are aspiring to occupy the number one seat of Nigeria on the platform of APC is Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu. Aside being the National Leader of the ruling party, the former Governor of Lagos State was highly instrument in the formation of APC and eventual capturing of power from the PDP led government in year 2015. Realistically, BAT has the goodwill, widespread acceptance, political structure and financial wherewithal to clinch the presidential ticket of APC and still go ahead to win the presidential election.

Inasmuch as these permutations look strongly favourable for Bola Tinubu, it should also be noted that some forces within the APC are already plotting to stop his emergence as the party’s candidate. It has even been argued in some questers that Asiwaju has since transmuted to a kingmaker; and it is a general belief that kingmakers are never known to have become kings.

In spite of cold political calculations that may not not be to the advantage of Bola Ahmed Tinubu, one thing that cannot be taken away from the highly cerebral and smooth operating politician is the fact that he is always a step ahead of his detractors. While his detractors appear fixated on working against his next political ambition, the Jagarban Borgu is also expected not to have gone to bed without giving serious thoughts to all possible options available to him.

Without doubt, one quality option that is available to Asiwaju Tinubu and indeed the APC in 2023 is the Vice President, Professor Yemi Osinbajo. The intellectual and legal genius may not be politically savvy like other gladiators, however, his competence has readily make up for whatever he may perhaps be lacking as a career politician. He has evidently demonstrated capacity to competently administer the affairs on Nigerian nation on several occasions. Osinbajo had on severally seized the opportunity of the president’s medical visit to the United Kingdom to proved his competence and leadership acumen to all Nigerians.

Osinbajo has left no one in doubt of his ability to skillfully and expertly manage the nation’s affairs whenever his boss travels abroad for medical check up. The fact that the Vice president is eminently qualified and highly experienced to succeed his boss should not be argued. As a lawyer, Osinbajo became a Senior Advocate of Nigeria at a fairly young age. He had later served for eight years as Lagos State Commissioner for Justice and Attorney General. He has also been in the saddle as Nigerian Vice president since year 2015.

It will be recalled that Osinbajo had properly pilot Nigerian economy, strengthened the Naira and ensure security across the country in his capacity as Acting President while President was abroad for medical treatment. It should also be noted that Osinbajo demonstrated his firmness and capacity to the admiration of most Nigerians. One instance of this was when the Vice president promptly sacked Lawal Daura as the boss of Department of State Security (DSS) in August, 2018.

Unknown to many people, Prof Yemi Osinbajo actually anchored the international conferences that led to the creation of strategic institutions such as the Independent Corrupt Practices Commission (ICPC), Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC), National Drug Law Enforcement Agency (NDLEA), Federal Road Safety Commission and National Agency for Food and Drug Administration and Control (NAFDAC).

More so, the twin qualities of integrity and loyalty that have since become very rare amongst Nigerian politicians are what Osinbajo is truly known to have in abundance. He has evidently shown genuine loyalty to his boss, even when President Buhari was critically sick and flown to the UK. All the the while, Osinbajo never contemplated any act of disloyalty. He has also resolutely committed himself to the cause of Nigeria and her dreams. He has established himself as a political soul-mate and a dependable ally of his boss, President Muhammadu Buhuri.
The Vice President is also a model of integrity as he has for more than forty years maintained exceptionally clean lifestyle and conducts.

Another outstanding quality of Prof Osinbajo is his deep sense of patriotism and commitment to excellence and hard work. In addition, the alumnus of London School of Economics is a detribalized leader who also sees himself first as Nigerian and never known to have manifested tribal or religious sentiment. He is a strategic leader that knows what to do, when to do same and how to get it done.

Despite being a pastor, he has continually promote religious tolerance and harmony in the country. He is also imbued with genuine fear of God, which is responsible for his trademark humility, loyalty and patience. Osinbajo is also a lover of peace and firm believer in one strong and indivisible Nigerian nation. He is undoubtedly an egg head and a great strategist which are great attributes that great leaders should posses.

Another reason that also makes Osinbajo a credible option for the APC presidential ticket is the fact of his unblemished records in both private and public sectors. This fact will also make it a lot easy to market him across all ethnic divides in the country. More so, the Vice president is comparably young and he is loved by most Nigerians. As things stand today, Nigerian youths, professionals, civil servants, artisans and peasants will prefer to have Osinbajo as their next president because of his close interactions with them.

While others gladiators are busy scheming to grab the presidential ticket of APC, Nigerian Vice president, Professor Yemi Osinbajo has always count on the same grace of God that sought out David amongst his brethren and eventually made him a king. The 64 years old lawyer and pastor is divinely positioned to be the joker of APC in 2023. He is clearly positioned not only to help the party retain power, but to also unite all factions and restore lasting peace and discipline to the ruling party.

May God bring it to pass. IJN, Amen.
There's something good in him

rottennaija:
You can try

Threat have started...

OkCornel:
Another big facepalm. Did the Good Samaritan show mercy to the robbed traveler? Was it not on that basis he was considered his neighbor?

Your level of ignorance is really nauseating.

Let me pull out the scriptures for you to see, which you’ll still deny anyways.

Conclusion to the Parable of the Good Samaritan.

Luke 10 v 36-37;

36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

37 The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”

If someone has shown consistent mercy to you, is that person your enemy or your neighbor?

Ogbeni open the Torah (Exodus to Deuteronomy) and show us where God instructed “LOVE YOUR ENEMY”

Because putting your enemy under the umbrella of “neighbor” is a barefaced lie.

Cc: Kobojunkie, Jesusjnr2020

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"....
If someone has shown consistent mercy to you, is that person your enemy or your neighbor?...."[b]


It's like you are taking the word enemy to be the direct opposite of neighbour.

No, enemy is not the word opposite of neighbour.

The word opposite of enemy is friend.
The word neighbour inhabit friend and foe (enemy).

Therefore, when He said THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR... friends and foes are captured.

Possibly, hardness of their heart cause the exclusion of enemy....

Again, when He said THOU SHALT NOT AVENGE....
it's our enemies that we avenge.

Who is an enemy?
the person who hates you,
the person who wishes you die
the person who refuses to greet you or answer your greetings
the person who blackmails you....

*. " KJV:But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless THEM THAT CURSE YOU, do good to THEM THAT HATE YOU, and pray for THEM WHICH DESPITEFULLY USE YOU, and PERSECUTE YOU;"


According to Jesus, enemies =
1. THEM THAT CURSE YOU,
2. THEM THAT HATE YOU,
3. THEM WHICH DESPITEFULLY USE YOU, and
4. THEM THAT PERSECUTE YOU;"

As we use to say "family is made up of father, mother and children"

In the same, neighbour is made up of friends and foes.

If reject it, no problem.

truespeak:
I have answered you and as before you do not like my answers!

The word "Neighbour" as we say in Law is Broad and all Encompassing for every man is a "Neighbour" one to each other hence Christ used the Parable of the Samaritan to show the far reaching extent of the Word "Neighbour" and it is Limitless thus even your Enemies would fall into it and you are bound to be a "Neighbour" to him!

Therefore Love your Neighbour means Love All Men and All Men include your Enemies. I expected you knew this as even Bible Students know this bit, so this is quite surprising!

And as I told you before the 613 Laws are founded on The Law of Love the Lord thy God and The Law of Love thy Neighbour which this falls under, therefore it is in keeping with All the Law as Christ Himself Taught hence my answer as I told you even Yesterday which remains the same even Today!

[/b]"...Therefore Love your Neighbour means Love All Men and All Men include your Enemies. I expected you knew this as even Bible Students know this bit, so this is quite surprising!...."[b]


So true!

Proudly shame your mockers

kc80:
Igbokwe said this on his social media page, Facebook, while reacting to the senator’s display of a T shirt with inscription of “The Dot Nation”, saying he would....... click the link below for details.

https://candidreporters.com/igbokwe-fires-abaribe-over-customised-the-dot-nation-shirt/

Abaribe has done well

OkCornel:
I know of the law of;
Love God with all your might, heart etc
Love your NEIGHBOR as yourself.


Please can you show us in the Torah where Israelites were explicitly told to Love their enemies?

Truespeak claims Jesus did not come with any new commandments so… hence my question.

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"....Truespeak claims Jesus did not come with any new commandments ..."[b]

He is speaking with the knowledge of how laws amendment/annulment work.

Since the word LOVE does not disappear, it is no new law.

Probably, the issue of hardness of their heart may be the reason they excluded LOVE THY ENEMIES.

Jesus came up with what it was from the beginning.

Practical ways to love your enemies is to give them food when they are hungry and water when they are thirsty,
pray for their healing when they are ill or pay their hospital bills when they are admitted.

It was there in the old testament (law):

*. Proverbs 25:21 "
KJV: IF THINE ENEMY BE HUNGRY, GIVE HIM BREAD TO EAT; and if he be thirsty, give him water to drink:"

*. Psalm 35:12 "KJV:They rewarded me evil for good to the spoiling of my soul.
13
KJV:But as for me, WHEN THEY WERE SICK, my clothing was sackcloth: I HUMBLED MY SOUL WITH FASTING; and my prayer returned into mine own bosom."

In law interpretation, THOU SHALT NOT AVERAGE THYSELF is having the same meaning as LOVE THY ENEMIES, DO GOOD TO THOSE WHO HATE YOU.

*. Leviticus 19:18 "KJV: THOU SHALT NOT AVENGE, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord."

*. Proverbs 24:29 "KJV: SAY NOT, I WILL DO SO TO HIM AS HE HATH DONE TO ME: I will render to the man according to his work."

my brother, some of them refused to apply it....

truespeak:
Thank you for your kind words.

It is my Solemn Duty as a Lawer/Lawyer to so do which is the First Calling of Every Lawer, to Explain the Law that all men may understand and keep the Law in its True Form, but I do not think it is just a problem of "inability to comprehend", I also see that People Hate the Truth and prefer Lies and Deceit and hate you for bringing the Truth to their Knowledge, it is not just here on Nairaland but I see it even in my Practice but I also understand it is their Right to Hate the Truth and Reject it but Nonetheless the Truth Must be brought Forth!

[/b] " Nonetheless the Truth Must be brought Forth" [b]

For sure...!

Dtruthspeaker:
True! When God Speaks, The Law of Life (and death) goeth forth out

Ride on man...

To the Law, if they speak not after this, it's because the truth is not in them:

*. Isaiah 8:20 "
KJV: TO THE LAW and to the testimony: IF THEY SPEAK NOT ACCORDING TO THIS WORD, it is because THERE IS NO LIGHT IN THEM."

OkCornel:
Can you show us which of the 613 commandments in the Old Testament did God instruct the Israelites to love their enemies?
I could show you where Jesus turned the tables in the New Testament.
Matthew 5 v 43-48;
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’
44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that?
47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?
48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

I have tried to understand what you are saying but I don't think I'm getting you correctly.

The law of love have been in existence but with a limited application.

Jesus came and expounded, expanded and extended its scope.

The former scopes still stand as valid!

truespeak:
If Christ is our Law, is His Law different from the Law of God? If they are not but rather flow from the Law Already in Existence as He Clearly Expressed ,then is it not clear that it is One Law?

There is no different Law, therefore if no different Law then it is One and the Same Law which even Christ obeyed whilst He was here with us and if you claim to be His Followers, then you Must Do Likewise for that is what it means to Emulate Him, as you yourself said!

You are not the problem at all. The problem is our inability to comprehend what it means to change/ annul a commandment/ law.

You are showcasing a better understanding of how laws amendment/annulment work.

God bless you.

Dtruthspeaker:
Joshua, Job, David and co will laugh at you.
Did Christ not clearly say "Why do ye (you) also transgress the Commandment of God..."
"Thus have ye (you) made the Commandment of God of non-effect..."
You do not even intend keeping The Law not to talk of "trying" to keep it, as is within your right to not do so.

[/b]
"...Joshua, Job, David and co will laugh at you."
[b]

Thanks for balanced knowledge of the Word.

God Himself named three people and said that they are righteous....
why can't we look into their own case.

*. Job 1:8 "KJV: AND THE LORD SAID unto Satan, Hast thou considered MY SERVANT JOB, that there IS none like him in the earth, A PERFECT AND AN UPRIGHT MAN, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?"

Note:
AND THE LORD SAID MY SERVANT JOB IS A PERFECT AND AN UPRIGHT MAN,

Who else can know a man more than the Lord?

*. Ezekiel 14:14 "KJV:Though THESE THREE MEN, NOAH, DANIEL, AND JOB, were in it, they should DELIVER but THEIR OWN SOULS BY THEIR RIGHTEOUSNESS, SAITH THE LORD GOD."

Note:
THESE THREE MEN, NOAH, DANIEL, AND JOB, DELIVER THEIR OWN SOULS BY THEIR RIGHTEOUSNESS, SAITH THE LORD GOD."

*. Ezekiel 14:20 "KJV:Though NOAH, DANIEL, AND JOB were in it, as I live, saith the Lord God, they shall deliver neither son nor daughter; they shall but DELIVER THEIR OWN SOULS BY THEIR RIGHTEOUSNESS."

can any of us doubt God?

jesusjnr2020:
If it were up to God alone to choose, all men would be righteous and obedient to His Word, because God is not willing that anyone perish but that all come to repentance, so stop speaking what you don't know about. Matthew 18:14

[/b]
"....If it were up to God alone to choose, all men would be righteous and obedient to His Word, because God is not willing that anyone perish but that all come to repentance,..."[b]

He that has an ear to hear, let him hear;
he that has an eye to see and read, let him do so.

The above statement is golden....

RealGboy:
My girlfriend packed her things into my house fully last 3 months cos her rent had expired and she couldn't afford to renew it .


I stay in a One bedroom apartment (self contain) but it was big enough for just the both of us , However to my surprise she arrives at my house with her bags and a little girl about 5 years old .


I was shocked and angry because she never told me she had a daughter but when I confronted her she begged me to allow the little girl stay with us claiming the young girl is her elder sister's child and she only started taking care of her Because her sister died ..


Although she try to show me proof and pictures hoping to convince me, the truth is that I find it hard to believe but I had no choice than to accept both of them .


Now the little girl is my problem in that house because my girlfriend stopped having sex with me in the night cos of her

We always wait untill she left for school before we had sex which could be annoying cos most times that hardly happens and the reason is because I usually go to work earlier than the little girl so most times we spend days without having sex .


Now I woke up one faithful night around 2am and I was shocked to see what the little girl was doing..


This girl who is just 5 years old was praying to God on her small mattress beside our bed ,I tried very hard to remain silent and eavesdrop then I heard

" God pls provide for uncle Nonso (me) ,bless my aunty (girlfriend) and provide a new phone for uncle Nonso (Me)


After saying this weird prayer she slept back as if nothing happened


. I couldn't sleep again, I kept wondering why she prayed that God should provide a new phone for me when I already own a phone or does she thinks my phone is ugly or old?.. then a voice in my head said

"Dude she's just 5 so why expect a meaningful prayer from her "..I nodded my head in agreement

Although that increased my love for the little girl and I decided I'll start treatimg her like my child ,with that I slept off woke up early as usual and left for work .

On my way back home from work that same day ,I boarded a commercial taxi as usual to my apartment ,I was very tired so I slept a bit in the taxi .The driver woke me up when I got to my junction.i payed and stepped out .

Just as I was walking into my street I checked my pocket for my phone and it was gone !!...I screamed cos it was an iphone X plus I saved a whole year to buy it .

I tried going to the park to locate the driver and see if he helps me find It but all to no avail ,both driver and my phone were gone ..

I got home that day and I couldn't eat ,I told my girlfriend and she tried to help me track it and all but it was useless.


I suddenly remembered the young girl prayer and I begin to wonder if she is a witch or just coincidence..


The next day I woke up again around the same time ( 2 am) to find her praying and I eavesdrop again

This time she said

"God pls provide for uncle Nonso ,bless my aunty and rest in peace Mr landlord"

With that she slept off again like nothing happened,I couldn't Sleep after hearing the last part of her prayer like what does she mean by rest in peace Mr landlord.,



I must have slept off while thinking about it and by the time I woke up the in the morning ,I rushed to take my bath and leave for work .

When I got back later in the evening , I was shocked at the numbers of people in my compound , my girlfriend then told me the landlord was discovered dead on his bed this morning by his children

I suddenly remembered the little girl prayer and I shouted " witch !!!!!!".....


My girlfriend was confused and asked me who I was referring to but I told her not to worrry

I changed the topic but secretly in my heart decided that as from today I would always wake up 10 mins before 2 am so I can hear the young girl prayers,.

That night I couldn't Sleep well I was waiting for 2am so I can eaves drop on the young girl prayer.

When it was 2:05 she woke up and prayed again

" God pls heal uncle Nonso ,bless my aunty and provide plenty Food for us" ..


She slept off again and I just froze on the bed .. Heal ? But I'm not sick now ,does that mean I'll be sick ??...

Well that would be nice sha cos that will enable me get some break at the office and rest at home
Typing............

You are very funny, aswear

MaxInDHouse:
Well if my ideas means idolatry to you there's no need coming to me for a study nah?

Ok

jlo247:
As I saw this picture on this cigarette pack I was surprised that the pack is empty because someone has smoked the cigarettes that are packed in it, even with all the clear pictures of a smoking lungs and normal lungs. Seriously people get mind oo.

Doctors do smoke and maybe the person who drafted that inscription is a smoker.

MaxInDHouse:
So there's no need worrying yourself if you think this is about an idol Sir!

What do you mean? Word of God calls it idols in the heart not me.

jesusjnr2020:
I wouldn't necessarily say set aside, but upgrade where need be to the Standard of the kingdom of God which He brought, and this is essentially for those of His church.

For instance, concerning the commandment about adultery, Jesus said:

"Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." Matthew 5:27-28 (KJV)

Hence Jesus upgraded or if you like amended that commandment to bring it up to the level God expects of His church and those of the kingdom of God.
God bless.

Ok, thanks

MaxInDHouse:
True!
Just as i curiously questioned Jehovah's Witnesses for over two decades before my conversion.
But there's one motive powering my curiosity: i believe in one God and one form of worship {John 4:24} where all those worshiping will have the same line of thought {John 17:20-23; 1Corinthians 1:10} and globally people will known them as a group speaking the same language of truth worshiping shoulder to shoulder! Zephaniah 3:9

So i want to be sure my teacher belongs to this group that's the reason why i'm questioning him!

Do you believe this?
If you do, do you have any religious group in mind? Because initially i thought it was Islam but there is no group anyone can present in Islam, therefore i turned to search for this group in Christianity. Micah 4:1-3
So if you don't have any group in mind then you shouldn't be the one picking topics since you don't even know which group is practicing pure worship!

[/b] "...So if you don't have any group in mind then you shouldn't be the one...."[b]

I'm warned by my Maker to avoid idol in the heart - Ezekiel 14:3

MaxInDHouse:
True!
Just as i curiously questioned Jehovah's Witnesses for over two decades before my conversion.
But there's one motive powering my curiosity: i believe in one God and one form of worship {John 4:24} where all those worshiping will have the same line of thought {John 17:20-23; 1Corinthians 1:10} and globally people will known them as a group speaking the same language of truth worshiping shoulder to shoulder! Zephaniah 3:9

So i want to be sure my teacher belongs to this group that's the reason why i'm questioning him!

Do you believe this?
If you do, do you have any religious group in mind? Because initially i thought it was Islam but there is no group anyone can present in Islam, therefore i turned to search for this group in Christianity. Micah 4:1-3
So if you don't have any group in mind then you shouldn't be the one picking topics since you don't even know which group is practicing pure worship!

[/b]"...So i want to be sure my teacher belongs to this group that's the reason why i'm questioning him!"[b]

Who confirm the group (or your this your description) as godly?

This is what brings false convictions to humanity.
It's called idol in the heart. King Ahab chose such when he was searching.

He would not accept prophet Micaiah for the sake of the 450 prophets who had the same line of thoughts, (1 Kings 22:8-15)

God of the Bible says whoever sets idol in his heart and then come to make inquiry, that He will answer the individual according to the idol in his heart.

*. Ezekiel 14:3 "KJV:Son of man, THESE MEN HAVE SET UP THEIR IDOLS IN THEIR HEART, and put the stumblingblock of their iniquity before their face: should I be enquired of at all by them?
4
KJV:Therefore speak unto them, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; EVERY MAN of the house of Israel THAT SETTETH UP HIS IDOLS IN HIS HEART, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to the prophet; I THE LORD WILL ANSWER HIM THAT COMETH ACCORDING TO THE MULTITUDE OF HIS IDOLS;"

*. Ezekiel 20:16 "KJV: BECAUSE THEY DESPISED MY JUDGMENTS, and walked not in my statutes, but polluted my sabbaths: for THEIR HEART WENT AFTER THEIR IDOLS."

Note:
THESE MEN HAVE SET UP THEIR IDOLS IN THEIR HEART,
EVERY MAN THAT SETTETH UP HIS IDOLS IN HIS HEART,
I THE LORD WILL ANSWER HIM THAT COMETH ACCORDING TO THE MULTITUDE OF HIS IDOLS;"

So dear max, empty your heart of your idols and He will reveal Himself to you.

jesusjnr2020:
Many Christians Only Know The Law Of Moses But Not That Of Christ

When Jesus began His ministry on Earth, He brought with Him a new Law, an upgrade to the Law of Moses, which consisted of a new set of commandments meant to serve as the standard of His church and those of the Kingdom of God which He was going to reinstate on Earth. Matthew 5:21-48.

Jesus also emphasized the keeping of these commandments which made up His Law. The final instruction He gave to His disciples after His resurrection and before His ascension, was to teach all men to observe them.

Matthew 28:19-20 (KJV)

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

However despite the extent to which Jesus emphasized the keeping of His commandments or Law, it's shocking that many Christians were yet ignorant of the fact that Jesus had His own Law or commandments which they are meant to keep. When they hear of anything Law, they mind usually goes back to the Law of Moses.

They appear to turn a blind eye to the commandments of Jesus which are clearly written in the Gospels, because they have been misled to believe that keeping of Laws or commandments could only be associated with Moses not with Christ, which is completely false because Jesus made it mandatory for any follower of His to keep His Law (commandments).

John 8:31(KJV)

Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;

John 14:21 (KJV)

He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Hence anyone who claims a follower of Christ but doesn't keep His Law or the set of commandments which He gave is not a true follower of Christ, but a false disciple.
God bless.

Give me the list of His commandments THAT SET ASIDE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS.

Note emphasis onTHAT SET ASIDE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS.

The wife of Manoah will rise up in the day of judgement and shall condemn this generation.

Because she kept herself from alcohol for the sake of Samson inside her,
but now a greater than Samson is inside the believers,
yet they refuse to stay away from alcohol!

*. Matthew 12:41 "KJV: THE MEN OF NINEVEH SHALL RISE IN JUDGMENT WITH THIS GENERATION, AND SHALL CONDEMN IT: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here."

42KJV:The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, BEHOLD, A GREATER THAN SOLOMON IS HERE.

Judges 13:4 "KJV: NOW THEREFORE BEWARE, I PRAY THEE, and DRINK NOT wine nor STRONG DRINK, and eat not any unclean thing:"

note:
"NOW THEREFORE BEWARE, I PRAY THEE, DRINK NOT STRONG DRINK"

*. Numbers 6:3 "
KJV: HE SHALL SEPARATE HIMSELF FROM wine and STRONG DRINK, and shall drink no vinegar of wine, or vinegar of strong drink, neither shall he drink any liquor of grapes, nor eat moist grapes, or dried."

Note:
HE (the called out, church) SHALL SEPARATE HIMSELF FROM STRONG DRINK

Let's see what the Word have to say about alcohol:

*. Leviticus 10:9 "KJV: DO NOT DRINK wine nor STRONG DRINK, THOU, NOR THY SONS WITH THEE, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations:"

note:
DO NOT DRINK STRONG DRINK (alcohol), THOU, NOR THY SONS WITH THEE

Come join me listen to this man: kobojunkie, maxInDHouse, downchelsea, and all lovers of alcohol.

*. Proverbs 31 :4 "KJV:It is not for kings, O Lemuel, IT IS NOT FOR KINGS TO DRINK wine; nor for princes STRONG DRINK:"

note:
"IT IS NOT FOR KINGS TO DRINK STRONG DRINK (alcohol)"

Visit the below link to learn more


https://www.nairaland.com/6566852/21-years-faith-not-tasted

Thanks so much

MaxInDHouse:
The angel that spoke with her was sent from heaven just as Jesus was sent {John 3:16-18} in this Bible quote it's clear that any spirit person sent from heaven is one of the angels and such a person can represent God just as the angel told Hagar "i will multiply thy seed exceedingly"
Only God can do that so the angel was speaking in behalf of God just as Jesus (another spirit son of God) said so many things in behalf of his father!
But this is not a debate session rather it's for those who want to study the Bible with JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!
Note that i purposely mentioned the group name so it's not about coming here for a debate,
A study is between two persons, the one teaching and one learning. As the learner already know the worth of his teacher and the teacher also know the level of the student. But a debate is between two rival parties, both will have to properly introduce themselves so that the spectators will know where the idea is coming from and the group adhering to what each debator is supporting. So if you want to debate with JWs you can open a thread, tell everyone the name of your church and what you believe as a bonafide member then one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES will volunteer to debate with you. Don't come and start arguing blindly when everyone knows that the churches claiming CHRISTIANS aren't teaching the same thing. Please if you truly want a debate any of JWs will do that with you provided you name the church whose teachings you're standing for!

"[/b]....A study is between two persons, the one teaching and one learning. As the learner already know the worth of his teacher and the teacher also know the level of the student...."[b]

At least the students/learners questions and curiosity should not be called argument.

A teacher should be competent and amicable to attend to the students.

Janosky:
You can't disprove the truth in that post but....
Bros, console yourself jare.

Let's start the Bible study...
Which topic are going to start with?

I will suggest "armageddon"....

What is armageddon?
Where is armageddon? and
Why armageddon?

MaxInDHouse:
You can continue to twist it anyhow you like, WINE is WINE people who got drunk took too much that's the point of emphasis!

You know this "Jesus turned water to alcohol".....
I was arguing with friends then. Telling them that wine Jesus gave them must be Kai kia.

My point for saying it's Kai Kai was that He told them to fetch water and fill the jars, they did.

Without adding colour to it, He told them to start serving it.

So the wine must be colourless and the only colourless alcohol is Kai Kai.

So I drank a lot of it with the assurance that Jesus turned water to Kai Kai.

But now I thank Him for delivering me.

Do you guys also drink Kai Kai ( hot drink, e.g one man squadron, Chelsea, )

@kobojunkie, downchelsea

MaxInDHouse:
You can continue to twist it anyhow you like, WINE is WINE people who got drunk took too much that's the point of emphasis!

Too much?
You see, Jesus could not have given them what they have too much of it already.

Don't you understand? They had had too much of the bad wine.

You are trying to say they were drunk and my loving Jesus wanted them to get drunk the more. No, is impossible!

that's why Jesus, the GOOD SHEPHERD, gave them the GOOD WINE, and they noticed the difference.

7up "the difference is clear"

Give alcohol to those who are ready to perish Proverbs 31: 6

*. Proverbs 31:6 "KJV: GIVE STRONG DRINK UNTO HIM THAT IS READY TO PERISH, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts."