₦airaland Forum

waveman2:
If we keep ignoring these things Nigeria will never be a better place that is why we must hold our leaders accountable. I have been paying for buying of poles for my community to patching of potholes on our road but I decided to put a stop to it when this same government people came to mount roadblock to collect local government revenue on that same road. If the people in France did not stand up to their leaders do you think that France would be where it is today. Dubai another close example. The day my boss blasted me that we Nigerian youth to know our priority and all what we think about is how to make money ,marry and raise familes in a country we provide our electricity,water ,healthcare etc I agreed with him. He said if this was happening in Europe there would have been a revolution and I agreed.

waveman2:
My friend ur just an arsenal lack of thinking is depleting ur brain cells. Bcoz u,ve narrowly escaped poverty through the petition salary u collect u don't think of others during I poverty everyday in this country to make such a ridiculous statement. It people like u that has made this country backward. Youth of our generation. Spew.

PrecisionFx:
And thus ur blaming Nigerians for lack of electricity?

We We don't need 300 - 900 billion dollars to generate the needed electricity in Nigeria.

300 billion dollars can build plants to generate 3GW, i.e 300,000 MW which far far more than we need.

PrecisionFx:
Bring a major news media link to back up this ur claim from nebo which is obviously fatally wrong.

Like i said 100 billion dollars would comfortably generate 2GW (talk more of 900 billion dollars, almost a trillion), we don't need that for now.

We need as little as 60,000MW now to get unlimited power supply across nigeria n to kick off towards industrialization.

Now no need to argue these issues, Go and make a research to find out how much it costs to generate 1000MW on average n then narrow it down to find its costs in Nigeria as a result of our cheap labour.

Cromcruach91:
No such thing as free lunch

No such thing as free lunch

there is no such such thing as a free lunch,
There is no such thing a social security lock box,
Then why do the politician types,
Talk to us and give us all this hype,

They know better than that,
But do we better than them?

This is problem in our society,
We are all looking for something free!

Some look for free lunches,
Other for tax loop holes,
Still other look for us,
They don't have to plot or plan, they think we won't listen,
And these are our politicians!

They go to Washington,
And learn how to get around,
In this process they find out,
What politics is really all about!

it is about robbing Peter to pay Paul,
They explain it wasn't reall a robbery,
It is just like a game.

You see in the world of politics,
There are no rights and wrongs.
You are always right until you get caught,
And when you are caught,
Your defense is without a doubt,
Well they elected me,
Obviously they wanted me,
To serve this nation and provide,
More jobs and a great deal of pride.
I've done both and now I boast,
I did it different then most.
I lied!


N. Bagratuni.

waveman2:
My friend ur just an arsenal lack of thinking is depleting ur brain cells. Bcoz u,ve narrowly escaped poverty through the petition salary u collect u don't think of others during I poverty everyday in this country to make such a ridiculous statement. It people like u that has made this country backward. Youth of our generation. Spew.

nextstep:
The simple truth is this: yes, Nigeria is tough - hellish some would say - but there are many people here living very good lives here, actually LIVING. When I see people come home from Western countries, it's like they are not alive. They may be comfortable, but they are in the same cycle of work, tax, debt, work, tax, debt with little chance to really LIVE. They may come and do shakara during Christmas, but at the end of the day, it's money they will spend the next 1 year paying off, with interest.

There are some who manage to break the cycle, perhaps investing back home or building a house, but from my understanding it's quite a soul-less and isolating existence.

Those who go abroad usually have gathered nearly 2million Naira for ticket, visa, living expenses. Just to go and drive taxi or be a nurse? That same 2million has launched many people out of poverty in this "sh1thole". Material wealth and comfort does not mean you're LIVING... I would like to be able to visit there frequently like some people I know, but not really reside.

I just wish we would see the incredible opportunities that foreigners are coming to find here...

emmasege:
For the records, no state in the south east borders with the ocean.

OP and his type should enroll for elementary geography class, focusing on the states or map of Nigeria.

otosa:
My question about the bridge is how much the Government really want to spend to build the bridge that takes them years to do? meanwhile, the SE Governor could have taken a boldness step that will even suck the Federal Government by introduce the Thirld Niger Bridge and finish it within two years. So its possible for federal Govt. to take the people of southerner as fool because our governors also not really show concern about the well being of the people.

Konquest:
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@LaudableXX
I'm just seeing your post because
I've been off NL for sometime.

That guy you replied in your post
isn't making sense just as you said.

I recall reading about Ugbodu in Aniocha North
in the online version of The Nation over
7 years ago and the traditional ruler of
Ugbodu who is known as HRH
Oloza Ayo Isinyemeze said
his people were the first to arrive
in that community centuries back
when they left Benin and moved to
Esan territory. He said they are originally
of Yoruba ancestry! There was a time
they even took up some Esan/Edoid
names in addition to their Yoruba
names. All the members of the Royal
Family in Ugbodu had Yoruba names.


"Oloza" is a derivative of the Yoruba word
Oloja, a chieftaincy title for a market
leader/leader of traders. Odogwu
is not the title used in Ugbodu. It used
to be Obi of Ugbodu but it was replaced
with the title Oloza.

Onicha Ugbo is also located in Aniocha
North like the Olukunmis and they are
very close in terms of location. Dr. Ibe
Kachiku is from Onicha Ugbo and he
is the Odogwu of Onicha Ugbo.
From what I read about Onicha Ugbo,
they have Edo and Nri immigration
or ancestry as well, with Bini aristocratic
titles. I read that "Odogwu" is a derivative
of the Benin word "Odogun" which means
"head of warriors" which kind of sounds
like Olori Ogun [head of warriors] in Yoruba...
since "Ogun" means WAR in Yoruba.

Nduka Ugbade, the iconic captain of
the 1985 Under-16 Worldcup winning team
is an Olukunmi from Ugbodu. A former
Miss Nigeria who is now late is also
from Ugbodu among several prominent
indigenes.

The Ibo influence is as a result of relatively
recent acculturation in the Aniocha/Delta
North axis. The traditional ruler said this
is the reason they are giving their children
Yoruba names and also encouraging
Yoruba/Olukunmi language contests in
the article that I read online.

I read a research by 2 lecturers from
Delta State Univ in Ekpoma [one of who
has the surname of Mordi] that most communities
in Delta North were founded by people from
different ethnic groups... from Benin, Esan,
Yoruba [Olukunmis], Igalas, Nri migrants,etc.
In the PDF documents which you can
still download via Google, the research shows
that each town in Delta North knows its
history. [You can use the search terms:
"Origin of Anioma People of Delta North"].
Most of the communities in Delta North
were founded by migrants from Benin.
A massive DNA test would prove these
FACTS in the final analysis.

The people of Delta North respect one
another's history...it is some of the ill-informed
outsiders from across the east of river Niger that
go about saying that entire Delta North is of
pure Ibo origin... which is false! One of the
ill-informed boys from the S/E posted
a FALSE post on one other Website were
the charlatan said Olukunmis were "slaves"
who were captured by core Ibos which is
a pure lie as Olukunmis were NEVER enslave
by anybody in Delta North.

Olukunmi war commanders from Eko Efun
Town [Eko Efun or "white chalk" in Yoruba,
also known as Ukwu Nzu town were also actively involved in the Ekumeku war against the
BritishBritish invasion of Delta North.

ANIOMA is a relatively new acronym that
was coined by the Asaba-born 1st Republic politician, Chief Osita Osadebe around the
early 1970s.

iconize:
iconize, You're a despicable bum.

Stop chatting to me till you do a brain transplant.

Cromcruach91:
I wish it was a lie, but it is the truth.

I recall a news report several years ago on the problem (back when it was PHCN)

And I also recall a report (radio) saying that one of the DISCOS only got bills from 30% of the customers.

And then there was the APC not paying bills for the HQ, and the various ministries too.

It is the truth. And finally...several years ago, as a student, I lived in an off campus residence. We were supposed to share the bills. Out of about some 30 people...only 3 of us paid the bills. Out of our small money...so that we did not get cut off.

See why I don't beleive that most people pay their bills...and even then, we ain't earning enough to import the stuff to fix things.

You can call me a liar for all I know, you can even say I am a govt bootlicker. But one thing I know....we have a serious problem, and pretending we don't have it...that makes me sad.

I don't understand you Nigerians. Really I don't.

Cromcruach91:
Yes they refuse to do so because the transmission system is broke, and it is not fit for purpose.

And we need $100billion to fix the transmission system alone.

And 7000mw isn't enough. We need 20000MW...just to give everyone 18 hours of power a day.

Cromcruach91:
The fare we are paying for in Nigeria...is very low.

For example...i used to pay N10000 at my previous place on estimated billing.
At my current place on meter it is N2000 (ALL prices per month).

And thing is...most people in my DISCO's catchment area don't pay bills.

So..where are they going to get the money to make things better?

Govt has hands off the thing...

And they are private companies...

Meanwhile in Ghana....service charge per month is 51000 naira.

Cuteamigo1:
foolish boy am not interested in your epistle. anwer this simple queation for me, is it under the government now or has it been privatised?

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TCN: 11 Discos Rejected 22,277.53MW of Electricity in Eight Days | September 8, 2017 |

The TCN said in a weekly electricity allocation log it posted on its twitter handle – @TCN_Nigeria, which THISDAY obtained yesterday in Abuja that between August 27 and September 3, 2017 – a period of eight days, the 11 Discos comprising of Abuja, Benin, Eko, Enugu, Ibadan, Ikeja, Jos, Kaduna, Kano, Port Harcourt, and Yola, refused to take up and distribute a total of 22,277.53 megawatts (MW) of power produced by power generation companies (Gencos).

This is despite current records from both the Nigerian Electricity Regulatory Commission (NERC) and International Renewable Energy Agency (IRENA) indicating that well over 89 million Nigerian citizens do not have any form of electricity connections to their homes.

Yet, the Discos according to the TCN records refused to take up an average of 2,784.6MW every day for distribution to their customers, thereby suggesting that the rejected volumes were produced by the Gencos, and the TCN willing to transmit them.

According to the records, on August 27, the Discos collectively rejected a total of 1,351.47MW; the next day, they allowed a whopping 3,129.05MW to waste; while on August 30, they simply could not take up 2,841.1MW that was generated.

Similarly, their load rejection acts continued on August 31, when they failed to accept 2,656.46MW of power that was generated; on September 1, they could not take 2,713.95MW; as well as on September 2 and 3 when they could not take 3,010.59MW and 3,267.17MW respectively.

According to the record, Ikeja, Ibadan, and Enugu Discos were among the top in the load rejection acts of the Discos.
https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2017/09/08/tcn-11-discos-rejected-22277-53mw-of-electricity-in-eight-days/

Cromcruach91:
Ghanaians pay enough for light...so that there is enough money to buy the stuff needed to ensure light 24/7.

Nigerians....many people and many govt agencies, and even political parties don't pay their bills...and expect free light.

waveman2:
If you do all the above then you are part of the problem in this country. We need a revolution
You mean u pay ur taxes and still fix the road leading to ur house and u come comfortably online to say these nonsense.
Do you know how many people cannot afford to eat even 1 square meal a day and we have politicians been paid 13.5m monthly.

The youths of this country are definitely the problem. Go and read about the French revolution and u will understand y France is a better country.

Cuteamigo1:
you are the clueless one here since you can't differentiate between a government run organization and a private one. am not supporting the increase but all am saying is if that is what it will take for them to generate the money flow to make things better then Nigerians should make the sacrifice. Nigeria is not a socialist country abeg.

Cuteamigo1:
then continue to enjoy your failed power sector. it you type that common pot holes you cannot fix in your neighborhood but would rather wait for the government to do everything for you. the government realized its too much of a task for it and hence privatised it, i hope this answers the bolded part.

chuckdee4:
Interesting how she is Zimbabwean but speaks using 'Naira'

True words however

Cantshout:
Let the company in charge get a bank loan, implement and see whether citizens will not be glad to pay for what they see. If electricity is not a free lunch, then let them get the lunch prepared so we can buy

Cuteamigo1:
no i am not but for this service to get better, Nigerians have to realize that they have to make some sacrifices and paying more is one of the way to go since we dont have the savings that the government can spend alone to fix this. if you think forieng investors will come and put thier money in a system where majority of customers dont want to pay and bypass thier meters then be rest assured this problem will linger for many more generations to come. we all know the story of telecommunications services when they started, we paid alot at the beginning but once the infrastructure was set we are now paying less than we used too. this is just my opinion.

Govt has spent 2.7 trillion naira on the power sector since 2009, with little or nothing to show for it. What on earth makes you think that if the masses are exploited to pay more for the current state of epileptic power supply, anything would improve?

Ahmed0336:
i think she meant 40 million kobo as you rightly said. Make dis babe no make people look stupid now. I just dey observe d hair to see whether na diamond plated hair

kevoh:
The reason why I said a lawyer has no business in that seat. Forgive me for being biased as an engineer myself but Prof. Barth Nnaji had more technically creative ideas while on that seat than the figurehead there, we could be veering towards such ideas if everything in Nigeria was not so politicised.

T9ksy:
Funny enough, I have never been to the east and i have no intention of going there, either wtff?

Btw, i inferred that "most" and not "all" your able-bodied men are sojourning outside your region. Naturally, there will be some left but those ones are patiently awaiting their oppotunity to leave their barren homeland to hustle for their fortune among the people they claim hates them and whom they are not entirely gond off, either

Shame is obviously an alien concept in your neck of the woods else younlot won't come online yapping about how you "developed" your enemies' region.

kevoh:
They do this monthly in my area, some of them lock themselves and created some kind of barrier preventing PHCN officials from checking. I don't want to even mention those use industrial machines in their house yet register themselves as normal users.

I also mentioned in my point 3 that PHCN people are corrupt but in your haste to defend foolish Nigerians that will not pay even if they get 24hrs electricity you labeled it as BS. Typical Nigerian!

kevoh:
Saburi... If you are using airport line it is even better...

Point is even with 24 hours light and prepaid meter, some Nigerians will still refuse to pay and they will be at the front complaining that they can not pay for light not received.

kevoh:
Mr.Man stroll down to Abuja and stop making noise. There are parts of the city with prepaid meters and 16 to 20 hrs light my area inclusive.

Layman24:
COUNTRIES LIKE TANZANIA A 3BED ROOM FLAT IS PAYING EQUIVALENT OF N500 AND GERMANY IS BEGGING FOR WHO WILL CONSUME LIGHT FOR FREE.
MY GHANA TRAVELER DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

kevoh:
What about regions that have this prepaid meter and 16 to 20hrs of light per day. Why are Nigerians still bypassing their pre-paid meter? What is stopping them from paying this time?

Cuteamigo1:
i dont exchange words with kids? we you grow up and learn to talk without insulting people then we can talk.

Nigeria spent N2.7tr on power in 16 years | ENERGY BUSINESS DIGEST |

A whopping sum of N2.74 trillion has so far been spent in attempts to improve power supply in Nigeria since 1999 to date, a Senate ad-hoc committee investigating investments in the power sector in the last 16 years has been told. The arrow head of the Federal Ministry of Power, Amb. Godknows Igali said: “From 1999 to date, 1.56 trillion was appropriated to us but actually only N948bn was released to the Ministry and the entire agencies under it. This amount covers all the entire investments in value chain.

He added that from 2009 to 2013, the sum of N155bn was also invested by the federal government to cushion the effect of the shortfall in the investment in the sector. Amb. Igali made the disclosures while addressing the first session of the Senate Probe Panel on the investments in the power sector since 1999 recently inaugurated by the Senate President. The 14-man probe panel is being headed by Senator Abubakar Kyari (APC, Borno North).

The Managing Director of the Niger Delta Power Holding Company Mr. James Olotu on his part said the 10 Independent Power Plants in the country got 8.234 billion dollars (N1.6 trillion)...... http://energybizdigest.com.ng/nigeria-spent-n2-7tr-on-power-in-16-years/

Cuteamigo1:
guy forget them, they will never understand. Nigerians want a system that works but they dont want to pay for it.

ifyalways:
No we don't.
6 bedroom duplex @Aiport residential (highbrow area) Accra with Atleast 3 A/C working non stop 24 hours and other daily must - use appliances (Freezer, refrigerator, microwave) and our monthly light bill has never been more than 150 ghc (17,000 ngn approx)

Try that in Lekki and be ready to cough out Atleast 50,000 ngn for epileptic power supply

Cromcruach91:
Remember that the GSM companies charged high prices...and their services were bad intially.

But the money they earned from those high prices was used to pay up for the improvements.

I like your grid idea...but it still has to be paid for....

Cromcruach91:
Well, looks like we would end up taking another loan...or continuing having bad service.

You cannot give what you don't have. I'm sorry...but that is the truth.

If we don't pay more for light...we won't have the improvement we need.

Cromcruach91:
Chief...I hear you

But the thing is..as i said...we STILL need...$300billion to get light 24/7. Our reserve is just 40 billion.

Where are we going to get the money from?

Since you guys don't want an increase...then let us take a loan.

Good afternoon. It is not wickedness to tell the truth. Truth is...we don't want to pay for light. We want it free...and that is not realistic.

Cromcruach91:
Back in the days of NEPA...most people and govt agencies were not paying their bills.

Nowadays...the same thing still happens.(A disco official told this to a relative who is in charge of a govt agency..when said relative demanded why bills were being so high....and fyi..that govt agency does pay bills.).

That's a big part of why things are not improving...we are sabotaging the process .