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absoluteSuccess:
Apongbon may not make your list, I learnt somewhere it has to do with one of the white colonist with brown beard, "Apon irun agbon".

You are free to claim it all but take time to do fact findings. Some of the words could be very recent. Apongbon is short for "brown beard".

Good luck.

Just like my grandfather was nicknamed Alagbon Odo at Ipetu Ijesa when he was a teacher there. It means the man with a prominent jaw. The white man aliased Apongbon had a red beard hence the name. Most of these young men coming here to type rubbish are not academics but you don't need to be an academic before knowing that the present Benin language was never the lingua franca of the Benin empire and that three people standing together to communicate in the language did not occur anywhere on Earth outside Benin and environs for thousands of years before the twentieth century. Not even in ancient Benin city

Enoch Adeboye the leader of twenty million RCCG Christians changed or shape shifted into a cobra and later back to a human being and was caught on camera by the CIA of the USA. Things do happen

Benin empire was a Yoruba empire with a Yoruba speaking capital and Yoruba speaking elite and aristocrats but with various languages as vernaculars in the empire but still Yoruba majority. Edo was spoken outside the palace walls though they owned the land and invited the Yoruba there. However the empire was Yoruba controlled. If you go back ten thousand years the so called Ogiso kingdom would be speaking a language intelligible to ancestors of Yoruba, Akoko, Edo and Igbo but Edo have been isolated for thousands of years to the extent their immediate neighbors can not understand them. The Benin that came to Lagos, I reiterate, were Yoruba speaking Benin speaking the same dialect as Itsekiri, Owo, Ilaje and Olukwumi and the first free Edo man to see Lagos occurred in the 20th century.

WAPINATION:
Well maybe you are not informed that each state have 3 senatorial representatives South East is made of 5 states hence the number of senators south West is made of 6 states hence the number of senators do not think that south east is favored for that.
May I remind you below:

Obasanjo SW President
Yem Osinbanjo SW Vice President
Ahmed Tinubu President……

The point is you can be marginalized and not even have an idea you are marginalized since it is only people who know they have something that can know if it was stolen

WAPINATION:
My brother I respect your view however if only you have been denied a certain opportunity in your home country just because you are from a certain region or have been discriminated in your work place just because you are doing better and an Igbo then you will understand why I made my comment. Igbos are actually marginalized in Nigeria.

What about SW with 65 million population having 18 senators while SE with around 30 million have 15?. Who would you say is marginalized during decision making?.

Airlord2030:
there are more igbos in Ibadan alone than the entire Yorubas you will find in the SE.

So igbos are every where in the SW in large numbers not just Lagos..

While you guys fancy our region, we DON'T feel the same about yours

Someone made a similar claim about Kano city but a Hausa person commented that Igbos are mainly in the city and their population in the whole state is less than 200k and in the whole North not more than 500k. I don't know how far that is true but a Northerner online made the statement authoritatively. In Ibadan, it will be the same way and the whole number of Igbo owned shops in all of Oyo state will be a few thousands in the trading sectors they specialize in like spare parts, building materials, some electronics and clothes. Not more than that. Igbo in Oyo state might be 100k or 200k but I am not sure unless counted I however believe SS in the SW are more than SE. In Lagos it is the same way and if you go to the East, you find Yoruba there as well in Large numbers in sectors they specialize in. All the shops in Alaba and Ladipo are not more than maybe 100k in all and more than thirty percent of Alaba is Yoruba. Other places are Balogun, Computer village and those places are a mix of Yoruba and Igbo and the majority of petty traders in various Lagos markets are still Yoruba. There are also Hausa majority markets as well as Yoruba majority markets but if you add all traders together you might come up with up to sixty percent Yoruba in Lagos. Other places in the SW are more than ninety percent Yoruba before we now go to other sectors that are not trade. Therefore your statement is factually incorrect and infact a city like PH may have a higher percentage of Yoruba than there are Igbos in Lagos. So all groups are equally interspersed and no group is at any real disadvantage. Any perceived disadvantage is more of an illusion.

Realguyman1:
Yes sir we are on the internet together and since I have been using the Internet it's both side I have been seeing using derogatory words against each other at any given opportunity.

Even apart from that. Someone said u are mad and u tell the person he is mad too, what now make u any difference for u to now start condemning the other person for saying u are mad?

Only Christians turn the other cheek which means they are game for evil people or do you think a human ritualist will leave you if you turn the other cheek?. You have to react but proportionally. Reacting to anything is not wrong and if you mess with the wrong person it can be possible to carry what you never bargained for via mere words because words are powerful and anything pronounced with sincerity will eventually happen especially if deserved. Imagine a faceless person insulting me on this forum just because I am involved in a showdown with Enoch Adeboye of RCCG?. All my curses on the person has stuck because on my profile is my name and international passport and I am not hiding from anybody nor am I faceless. I normally place a curse on people like that but after they started it. I do not see anything wrong in that. Some of them are freelancers while others are on the payroll of the Enoch Adeboye. Calamity will be the lot of all of them

Realguyman1:
That's where my complain about the yorubas is. U complain about the Igbos using derogatory words on the yorubas, but didn't talk about the yorubas doing same thing too, why? Do u know I myself have been called ipob pig and terrorist by most yorubas only because I spoke against Buhari nonsense government and as well called Obidient simply because i supported Obi and not Tinubu.

Even when I explain to most of them that I'm not an Igbo person and I wasn't not supporting Tinubu not because he is a yoruba, but because I hate the entire party called apc all because of Buhari. Even if it happens that it was Adams Oshiomhole who is from my state that was bearing the apc presidential flag, I wouldn't have supported him also. But they keep on accusing me of being an Igbo

Are we not on this internet together?. Yorubas only respond to Igbos. They don't talk down on or insult Igbos on automatic or spontaneously. They have no need to do that. Igbos do that largely because of the defeat of Biafra.

Realguyman1:
Sir both the Igbos and Yorubas and Northerners are all guilty of either tribalism or hatred. But what I don't like about the yorubas is playing guilty of it everytime as if they themselves are different.

Do u know that the Igbos and Yorubas also took this hatred they have for themselves abroad? And the most painful thing is that they hatred has been put in place to the extent that even the younger ones are growing up with the mentality.

Hope tinx get right someday

Individuals compete against each other. Nations do too, traditional Yoruba states compete among each other and if competition is fair and done properly, it is good and even vital for progress. Hausas take their own competition with Yoruba to the extent of grouping together to attack Yorubas on Yoruba land which they could never have done if Nigeria is non existent and Igbos Dont do that yet but maybe if they have opportunity they will. What Igbos do is insult Yorubas with unfounded allegations with no basis and that makes no sense and also use derogatory words on Yorubas. Hausas don't do that. If it were a Yoruba majority country, it can be easily overlooked and an Igbo can be President while under control and supervision if the person is brilliant but as it is presently, the best way forward for everybody in the country is total disintegration so that progress and prosperity can be possible. Nigeria is an English country and that is what it can be if it can eventually become a nation in centuries but it can not, let all ethnic groups take their lands since they were never conquered by anybody and be sovereign or align as they wish with provision to be sovereign anytime they wish. It is the only way

Realguyman1:
Same way the Igbo people are claiming to be better is the same way the Yorubas are also claiming. Where I was working before in Lagos, all the tribe there were afraid of the Yorubas because they they believed they can set them up anytime even in something they themselves are guilty of.

And the most painful part of all is that when they want to do it, they will exclude themselves. Is that one not also part of claiming to be better persons?

Both are wrong People are the same and any human being can be brought up as Igbo or Yoruba without hitch. I might be noticing the Igbo own more because of how some faceless Igbos attack Yoruba online without relent by using derogatory appellations that can not even be established in any court of law.

GetSenseNow:
Check what happened in Afghanistan with the US. The US is, undoubtedly, the more powerful force but look how they exited after spending trillions

The same thing happened to the USSR and it was a loss to both countries. If you did not achieve your aims, it implies loss. Afghans won but if Afghans are capable of chasing the US army into Us territory then the US would not withdraw

Realguyman1:
Buhari didn't hide it from day in office that he was completely a wrong option, but u guys in South west kept defending him and even voted for him massively again for second term. Most of them I knew that carried Buhari matter for head in that 2019 election have all run away from the country with their families.

By the way, u guys know that most people online are collecting money for what they do and u people kept on accusing the entire Igbo of being filled with hate? I'm living in lagos and I have seen a lot of Yorubas who doesn't give a damn about Nigeria and always insult the country at any given opportunity. Those kind of people might come to nairaland to say their mind and the next thing u know most Yoruba people here will starts accusing the entire Igbo people of being filled with hate.

What Igbos really need to do is to stop thinking they are better than others when there is no evidence on ground at all to suggest such. It can be irritating atimes. All human beings are the same and what a nation can boast of as a people is the achievement of their land located on their land not any pouring of water in an ocean that they do in any other place.

GetSenseNow:
It won't be. No war of attrition lasts so long, the both sides will eventually tire out from lack of resources.

Check out what's happening in Russia/Ukraine war despite the billions NATO has been pushing into the war.

Wars don't end in a stalemate. A withdrawal is a loss and only a powerful invader sure the enemy can not retaliate or chase it's army into its territory can withdraw. If you turn your back during a war then you will be run down.

Realguyman1:
U are talking trash. Jonathan won in most part of the west in 2011 because their god(Tinubu) haven't started penetrating them with hatred towards Jonathan and didn't told them not to vote for him then. Secondly Pdp were still dominating and had the upper hands in rigging elections then. If Tinubu have penetrated them with hatred and told them not to vote for Jonathan in 2011, just as he did in 2015 they wouldn't have. Though the boko haram saga added more vote for Buhari in the North, but Buhari has always had massive support from the North right from time even when there was no boko haram.

U are claiming that Jonathan surrounded himself with ss & se people looting billions of dollars, but Buhari came and did same thing by surrounding himself with northerners looting trillions with hardship everywhere but u yorubas still wholeheartedly supported him for second term simply because Tinubu said so.

Despite all the atrocities by boko haram in the North, it was the west that took the hatred for Jonathan personally. Even here on nairaland, it was the yorubas that were displaying so much hatred for Jonathan only because most of them believe that both the South East and South South are all Igbos. Abi u think say na today most of us done dey on nairaland? Or u think say we nor dey see all the comments wey most yoruba people dey comment for nairaland and Facebook that time? How many northerners were online in 2011 to 2015?

Mention the Yoruba who are non APC members who did that. Most of these people on nairaland without real names are collecting money for what they do, then no sane person ought to support Jonathan after his own brother testified in court that he paid for bombs to kill Nigerians that he was President over only that Buhari was a wrong option. A sadist is always a wrong option but Jonathan had to be removed. He was unfit

GetSenseNow:
How many of these countries was a first-world country at that time?
How many of these countries provided arms to the Igbos? Most of them supplied aid.


Here's a documentation of some of the aid given to the Nigerian side during the war

Russia : 2 Fighter Jets and 3 Armour Tanks.

Burma (Manyamar): 2000 Veteran Soldiers and guns.

Slovakia (Czech): Two 129 Delfin fighter jets.

Poland: 1 Krakow war ship.

USSR: 15 MIG Bombers.

Norway: 2000 cases of Ammunition

Germany: 1 Navy ship containing 300 tonnes of 60mm and 90mm ammo, ten 6 mm recoilless rifles and 2 High explosive anti tank war head they bought 8 mark2 bombers at $105000 each and 15 sabre mk jets at $100000 each.

Ghana: A navy boat (sakumo lagoon) containingn1000 bullets cases.

UK: 1 cargo plane containing 1000 automatic fabriquenational rifles.

Niger and Chad: Over 9000 Foot soldiers known as the Sweepers.

Egypt- The Egyptians pilots were the ones bombing hospitals and market place with jet bombers



Even with this list, the Nigerian side still had their asses handed to them

What you need to realize is that without the blockade by the FG, the war might still be going on today. Are there no wars like that?

GetSenseNow:
Lolz...see this one. All the ethnic groups joined together to fight 1 group and that group still handed your asses to you for 3 good years. U no dey shame? You had your army, navy and air force plus help from more than 9 other countries but that group were able to organize, train and do research/development DURING WARTIME and totally Bleep you up.
You ought to be ashamed, you had to resort to blockading importation of food , thereby starving women and children.
That's how you "won" the war, by following the cowardly route.
Shame

War is not like that. To conquer even a kid is never easy. If China or US should invade Nigeria, they may not secure victory in ten years or at all unless they use nuclear weapons so far Nigeria has access to weapons.

dragunov:
You just open your phone and type ignorant, useless comments. Why you and your ilk are so full of lies boggles the mind. Yorubas supported GEJ not only when he continued Yaradua's government, but in 2011. What did GEJ dó in the SW? Nothing. Was it the SW that started Boko Haram? Was is not BH that messed GEJ's administration up? He concentrated all his efforts on the North and what did they pay him back with? Did he not actually bite the fingers that fed him? If it were not for OBJ, Tinubu and the massive bites he got from the SW, do you think he would even have won? He turned around and surrounded himself with Igbos and SS people and under his watch they looked billions of dollars. He called OBJ a tout and rubbished any overture from Tinubu. So you expect the SW to be begging him or turn to slaves. Think before you write silly comments here.

Jonathan's brother said under oath in a South African court that Jonathan was the one who paid for the independence day bomb blast that killed some Nigerians. However if Jonathan was left there 1000 Shiite youth and the IPOB prayer warriors killed by Buhari would still be alive today

NSK4U:
From which source are you trying to give me this new narrative of the Nigerian history especially the part of Nigeria's history that is so important for her average citizen?

How and when did Ironsi establish confederation please?
For the unbiased records, Ironsi just like Zik was sold to the idea of one Nigeria and thought that unification decree would bring about the needed unity for the country upon his take over of government via coup. He introduced it and many Nigerians especially the political class in the north who he didn't put to jail like he did in the southern part of the country used his unification decree to raise propaganda against the Igbos with the narrative that Ironsi introduced the decree to put other regions of the country under perpetual dominance of the Igbos. Their propaganda worked which led to his overthrow and the rest was history.

But Ojukwu not submitting to Gowon's government which was grossly insensitive and utter neglect to the plight of Easterners being killed in the Northern Nigeria moved for secession and in a bid to stop the disintegration of the country, agreement was made to have a round table discussion to end the unrest of the period. Aburi today's Ghana happened to be the neutral ground for the warring parties and delegates from regions discussed and presented their positions. General Ojukwu's brilliance and preparedness for the meeting made him present valid points and positions which the Gowon's government alongside the regional delegates could not defeat. He proposed confederacy with valid reasons for its benefits to every region and at the end of the meeting, General Gowon alongside others agreed to his submission in Aburi. But upon their return to Nigeria, Gowon was made to understand that the confederation preference would not favour the whole country especially the north but the East. The British were said to be among the major stakeholders Gowon sought the interpretation of the Ojukwu's confederation call and they asked him to reject it. The following morning broadcast announced that Gowon has backtracked from their agreement in Aburi with the reason that he signed an agreement which he didn't understand its terms. This made Ojukwu insist that he and the eastern region stood on the resolution reached in Aburi which birthed the then
chant; "On Aburi, We Stand" before his final declaration of the sovereign state of Biafra.

Also to correct the wrong info on Major Boro, he wasn't the first to call for secession. For the records, the first call for secession came from the North who were in great suspicion of being dominated by the south after independence. Thank you

The first call for secession was the Araba cry or so by the Northern People's congress which they used to force Dr Azikiwe to concede the PM position to the NPC. If not given the position, the NPC would go it alone and they were clear about that. It was negotiation and Dr Azikiwe succumbed and was made a ceremonial President instead of leader of government business but he held a lot of influence over appointments and etc, so the power sharing between the NPC and the NCNC was balanced. The Action Group was in the opposition. It may have been possible that if Sir Macaulay were alive, there would have been no opposition since the AG would be an appendage of the NCNC and so also the NPC but the opposition party system shut out the Yoruba and laid the foundation for problems. Major Adaka Boro's insurrection was a civil war of over two weeks and not a mere political secession threat. It was the first civil war in the country since the threat of the NPC was a mere negotiation tactic and not an armed insurrection. If you say the eastern region was right to insist on the Aburi accord, then I will not debate that with you. I also will not debate on who pushed General Gowon to cancel the Aburi agreement but I strongly suspect that it must have been the survivors of Major Isaac Adaka Boro's civil war since himself was still alive then who pressurized General Gowon to disregard the Aburi accord and create more states all over the country. The majority of people writing PhD theses on this issue in five thousand years time will reach this conclusion even without evidence. The war could have been avoided but nothing happens without having some good side effects and that good side effect is what should be focussed on.
General Ironsi could also have swayed opinion to his side by immediately putting on trial and executing all the coup plotters and also releasing Obafemi Awolowo a political prisoner who was like Nelson Mandela back then. He was daring onlookers by leaving all that undone. Imagine someone like Obafemi Awolowo left in prison even for one hour by someone like General Ironsii?. Those are all the issues.

That is good. Everybody should protect their interests and there is nothing wrong in that. There is no point in fighting a battle in which if you win you will not gain anything of value. That is vanity. If Hausa is fighting Yoruba to conquer them in this modern day, it will be a futile war that can not be won. The fact that territories are properly demarcated is a blessing in disguise.

NSK4U:
The terms of Confederation that the great Ikemba Nnewi, General Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu presented as his preference and for the good of all the regions in the country for as as far back as 1967 in Aburi meeting but was jettisoned by rulers and representatives of other regions is what many contemporary emergency activists and later-day converts are now advocating for through another nomenclature as restructuring.
Wole's advocacy for renaming Nigeria at this point is completely cosmetic and he should be advised to face reality and not chase shadows.

The terms of confederation was as it was established by General Ironsi. There was no alteration but new states were created all over the country but the Eastern region government said 'On Aburi we stand!' meaning the new states should be abolished and that led to the civil war when both sides did not compromise. Meanwhile the first civil war in Nigeria broke out in the East led by Major Adaka Boro which was quelled by the FG led by General Ironsi before he was later assassinated by Northerners in Ibadan. On Aburi we stand led to the civil war and no other region apart from the East objected to the creation of new states. Therefore that objection which could have been done civilly ultimately led to the civil war. I mean if the Eastern region government had insisted on a plebiscite, it would certainly have been granted and the civil war would have been avoided or averted

Omoawoke2:
Sunday igboho came at an immature time, he was using Igbo system. How many Yorubas supported him, and Yorubas don’t even regard him. Unlike your Nnamdi Kanu your hero and messiah.
If Yorubas want to break away from Nigeria, you won’t even see it coming. All you will see that suddenly, yorubaland has formed their own country

You can not actually compare Igboho to Nnamdi Kanu who concentrated on raining curses on everybody within earshot. Igboho tried his honest best, he was arrested and damages was awarded against the Federal Government. Who you can compare to Nnamdi Kanu is one Adeyinka Grandson based in the UK but he was not as toxic. A leader of Biafran agitation that is most reasonable is the MASSOB leader Ralph Nwazuruike. KANU has neither strategy nor tactics and he can not be said to be the same as Sunday Igboho

Irete meji
Eyi to wumi ko wu o
Lo difa fun Bolupe to ri Oba Nile TI o lo fi Oluse se oko
Won ni ko rubo
O gbebo o rubo

Lovelydaisies:
While it's false news, it's important to note that a goat can't take in for a human. Contraception only occurs within a species. Maybe Homo sapiens and Homo erectus, for ndi science...but not human and goat.

Two different specie can have offspring that will live but it will not be viable for reproduction. It will die without reproducing but sperm from a human being can fertilize a donkey and Enoch Adeboye of the RCCG did that with his donkey. I think the beast is still alive kept somewhere by the CIA

wiseone28:
I don't believe ethnicity is the cause of our backwardness.. How many sub Saharan countries are doing well to the at least the level of Romania which the European considered to be poor outside South Africa which the white were in control for century?

There's no country that doesn't have another ethnic outside the majority.

This poverty thing is mostly African thing because of greediness and self-centered

Ghana, Cote D'Ivoire, Gabon etc are behind Eastern Europe mainly because of a younger population which means productivity will be lower. Cote D'Ivoire is more of an immigrant worker destination than Eastern Europe. I think it is number 24 on the list if I remember right. If you have an older population you will be more productive but west Africa generally is young. Some countries have average age around 18 while European average is over 40 years

Elsudani2:
Do your visa travel abroad and become docile.

You people are backwards and tribalistic.

United States have many Yoruba population of a white man call you black monkey you cry racism.

But in your own black home you are a racist

I don't belong to a tribe. Ijesa numbering over five million home and abroad are not a tribe but a nation and then you have to love yourself, family, nation and the world in that order, if that is your definition of racist, then it is what I am, you can't love anyone without loving yourself first. Do you think there can be proper progress in West Africa if Nigeria remain one? The civil war is going on by other means. How do you progress without peace and quiet?. If I go to US and take up citizenship then I will use only that citizenship with my former one as a footnote. Every human being on Earth is either like that or their ancestor is like that and that is how it ought to be

If not for British colonisation will anybody be dragging Apapa with the landowners?. Ethiopia is 120 million, a giant of Africa, no access to the sea and they are prospering with big cities, good infrastructure with all the Sectors of the economy at full throttle. Nigeria will break up soon and there will be quiet and opportunity for all the constituents to prosper properly

May their souls rest in peace. Without Nigeria, such would never have happened and Hausas have been known in Yoruba land even before they became Hausa people and there were no issues, no reason to attack them back then and this incidence was caused by the existence of Nigeria

Enoch Adeboye leader of the RCCG impregnated a donkey and the donkey gave birth but of course such a kid of Adeboye and his donkey can not be viable for procreation

Enoch Adeboye father in the lord of twenty million christians also once raped a donkey so often that it got pregnant and gave birth to a half human. I think the beast is still alive

Yes dollar will become around sixty naira when cost of living is forced down in rich countries. He has been following my posts. He is actually one of my earliest students from 2007

IfnobeGod20:
Why are some of you like deflecting issue like this.
I will make this issue simple for you,may be that will give you more understanding than redirecting me to no where.
Mr. President certificates bears:
Bola Ahmed Tinubu
And another bears
Bola Adekunle Tinubu

The Daley College certificate of Mr. President, the sex in it says it is a female but Mr. Tinubu we all know is a male.

The date of birth Mr. President entered on his INEC form is 1952 but one of his certificates is reading 1954.

The certificate Mr. President submitted in 1999 to INEC the day of his graduation was 22 but the one he submitted in 2022 is reading 27 as the day of graduation.

The question is, why these inconsistencies?

So, referring me to Exxon Mobil means you don't know the real bone of contention.

Yes, Tinubu graduated from CSU but why all these inconsistencies in his records? Every reasonable person need to ask this question.

Yo are the one leaving leprosy to go and cure eczema. The first class degree is attached to a SSN and it was used to work in Exxon Mobil before the owner who was a woman died. So why the merry go rounding?

IfnobeGod20:
The person that is pursuing this case never said Tinubu didn't graduate from CSU but claimed Tinubu used fake certificate that bear different names, sex, date of birth, and dates the certificate was signed.
How would a certificate bears two names?
How would a holder of certificate that is male and his another certificate bears female?
How would someone be claiming 1952 but what is in certificate bears 1954?
How would one certificate bears 22 and another bears 27 as the date the certificate was signed? And this just same certificate.
Someone know that Tinubu graduated from CSU but he might have used Nigerian factor to get his certificate in CSU and that was why there were a lot of errors and there may be possibility that used someone document to gain admission into Daley College. Why should a certificate from Daley College bears female as sex?
So many questions that this article never dwell on and answer.
You people need to reason out and stop blackmailing people up and down. If it were an ordinary person, you people would have been dragging him up and down for such unpardonable inconsistencies. Use your common sense and stop this blackmailing and use your God's given brain and focus on Atiku's petition and not what people are saying.

Go to Exxon Mobil and they will tell you their accountant who graduated with a first class from CSU was a woman. You don't know that one and you claim to be intelligent?