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rigarmortis:
ekwensu is akin to the Yoruba god, esu, who is currently misrepresented as the modern day satan of the Bible.

true. bt unlike the igbos, Yoruba are gradually turning back on that disgraceful act

johnydon22:
Oh yes the earth and nature is conscious and you are a part of the earth, you are conscious therefore the earth is conscious...

it's not about me. Nature doesn't need me to survive. . I need it to survive
Nature bore us all so it is greater than humanity. .its not conscious because of you or I

johnydon22:
Are they?

You are a conscious entity, am sure you know exactly the definition of consciousness is from the human perspective unless you would want consciousness redefined... Am certain you know exactly what i mean by being a conscious entity..

There's no specific definition for consciousness. . the topic is stil highly debated by philosophers

johnydon22:
All these deities are just personification of nature... E. g Ani(land) is the personification of land (goddess) in igbo culture... All these are just human way of interacting with nature... It doesn't mean that any of these things personified are really conscious entities.

The greek personification of earth is the goddess Gaia.. this doesnt make it true that the goddess gaia is truly a conscious entity, its just the ancient personifying their surrounding and nature the way they understood it..

bro while you might choose to disagree there's more than enough reason to believe that the earth and everything in Nature is conscious

MrPresident:
nice point, but the fact remains, both recorded and unrecorded history of every culture on earth has a story of gods/goddesses from the sky. images of those sky gods/goddesses were being worshipped in Africa before the white man invasions.
the bigger question is - who re those gods/goddesses?
one of the priorities of the first missionaries was to eradicate any trace of such sky visitors, which our naive grandparents saw as 'white man taking our oracles'
in as far as I detest religions as well as god-worship of any kind, I still think we have a very long way to go in the knowledge of our true past.

that's why I always say Gods/Goddesses don't really exist as they are portrayed but they must be portrayed in some way and what better way than in the image of the people that honor them?

emrain:
So the white men came to Africa, grabbed this almighty chukwu and threw it inside the garbage can and it stayed there waiting for men to resurrect it?

If this chukwu is almighty as the deluded igbos claim, why did it not stop the white men from crossing to Africa?

Why did it not give the Africans wisdom to fight against the white men?














After reading all this trash, I have finally come to conclude that all gods are man made, not the other way.

though, there are forces in this world that I'm yet to understand, until then I am God.

the Force that is known as Chukwu in igbo is not igbo property but Caucasians share in its glory. .so do animals and infact everything in existence

this is not like christianity and Islam that creates a delusion that only members are protected and blessed by "God"

The creator is not a partial entity that picks sides or discriminates, humans already have all we need to survive and grow

blackmantis:
So you now accept that he made a promise to run for only one term....

when did I ever deny that?

FrancisTony:
Is the man a muslim or christian?
I haven't seen a christian yoruba man marrying a second wife and most times, the muslim ones don't venture into polygamy when they marry a Christian woman.

My advice; they should follow their heart not people's own.

yoruba culture allows to marry even a million if you can

since when has Religion come before culture? it's not like the hebrews of the bible weren't polygamous

authority2006:
So, the fact that Jona didn't win election means that he fulfilled his promise of one term agreement? This dude is deluded

use ur common sense you mofo.
he promised one term, he gave us one term by whatever means it is one term

modath:
Thank you for moving out of a leased appt when your payment expired... Thank you.

We appreciate you for averting a "crisis" and leaving an economic "crisis" for us to manage for the forseable future.

We thank you for respecting the choice of the majority and doing the needful instead of waiting to be "gbagboed" out since you were the best president EVER!!!.

I don't think this man reviews his thoughts & doesn't hear himself when he comes up with all this kind of ish!!

tuncy:
Yes you are correct. Greater stuffs in prison, well furnished with enough palmwine. He will be given an aide to move around the prison yard freely.

*real sacrifices he made: making our economy miserable event if he got the highest income since 1960. Increasing or domestic and international debt. For increasing power generation to below 2000mega watts. Wake up from ur slumber and smell d coffin. He's arguably the worst leader we've had in 55yrs. If you are involved in international deals you will know what ds man has done to nig*

GEJ has many reasons to jettison those elections.. under age voting, irregularities, fraud, manipulation and rigging....dat' s why what he did is excellent...

Jonathan pushed Nigeria to no. 1 economy in Africa
those debts were mostly incured due to the Boko Haram menace Buhari largely allowed to escalate by protesting their initial attacks by the military and refusing to make peace talks and negotiations with them

blackmantis:
Why did you contest in the first place?

You had promised you would do only one term only to turn around and fail to keep to your word.

You did not want any opposition to your candidacy that is why you didnt allow free and fair presidential primaries in your party.

Now you lost you say you conceded defeat to avert crisis. You did not conceed, you were voted out.

Buhari also said he wouldn't contest the 2015 elections. . but he went back on his word.
at least GEJ didn't do a second term (didn't win election) like he said

inimitkel:
So he became a hero by not imitating the disgusting African system of ruling till old age? Bro there aint anyfin commendable about his decision to step down if there is sanity in the system

Buhari is today enjoying that system. . at his mid 70s isn't it time to rest and spend time with family away from politics and power struggle?

Ellashow:
Mr President, you conceded defeats because you lost...simple

Stop sugar coating your defeats. Trouble only looms when defeated and you refused to step down and go the Gbagbo route.

Enough of all this 'herotic' talk, go and rest, you've tried. ah

why did Buhari not concede defeat after losing disgracefully in 2007 and 2011?
we all saw the way buhari put the north into crisis and tried to disrupt a peaceful democratic process with his time wasting and distracting tribunals

MuttleyLaff:
https://s13.postimg.org/wkong1nx3/faith.jpg
We are saying the same thing.
https://www.nairaland.com/2323061/trust-faith-arent-same-thing#33909844
Faith is that strong belief in something or someone without logical proof,
whilst trust is relying or depending on something or someone, based on the character or integrity.

Or igbagbọ is faith - to have faith

Or I trust you because I have faith in you

you are really slow

did you not read this?

macof: in yoruba we just use "belief". to believe we know comes with justification, faith as its described doesn't

You cannot teach me yoruba wit some lousy online translator Mr.

breaking down the word I-Gba-Gbo accepting what is heard = to believe

very different from your Christian definition of faith

if then we choose to look at Igbagbọ(Belief) in another context we would consider "Belief" as a broad term for Hope, trust, Conviction and even Delusions
as I've said the human mind is incapable of having "faith". .unless you say the popular Christian definition of faith is wrong and it actually refers something else (the human mind is capable of) like hope for instance or Trust. .after all the word "faith" was taken from the Latin word for Trust

even the term "blind faith" is just another word for delusion

kemiola89:
You still ain't making any sense. All I keep seeing is 'accusations' talk repeatedly, is that all you've got?

And to your silly question; yes I can comment on any thread, this is a public forum. If my comment gives you sleepless nights then brace yourself up for more.

You really have a problem I see. . so your mission on this thread was to troll

kemiola89:
You do indeed have a comprehension problem and I am not responsible for that. In fact I made a mistake by replying you.

Even the quote you made didn't state any specific culture as I was talking from a general perspective. My comment was a response to this post
If you still don't get it after typing it out this clear I guess there's nothing more I can do. Please quit quoting me if you have nothing reasonable to say.

you are the only person here who has comprehension problems one of which you already admitted but stil trying to defend yourself rather than take simple correction.

and you boldly listed some yoruba names so please don't lie to yourself. but then whatever culture it is. ..respect the culture, your comment was an offensive accusation

btw must you comment on every thread?

kemiola89:
Who said anything about Yoruba culture propagating nonsense names or are you just making that up? How does me not understanding the cultural names I listed above translate to being 'nonsense' as you claimed? You obviously misunderstood my post.

here's your own words trying to downplay the yoruba culture

some of those cultural names have negative connotations which in turns affects our behavior

you obviously don't know a thing about naming culture in Yorubaland
best you don't speak on a topic you don't even understand unless you seek to understand and ask questions rather than make bold accusations like that

kemiola89:
You mean names like
Asake
Abike
Arike
Alabi
Adigun... Seriously, I don't even know what those cultural names stands for but I keep hearing them.

Our people are just being careful about the names they pick for their kids, some of those cultural names have negative connotations which in turns affects our behavior, thats why you see so many people going for a more religious name. Our names indirectly influence the way we act.

This is the dumbest shit I've ever heard concerning Yoruba names

what kinda thing would make you think yoruba culture propagate nonsense names?
if you understand yoruba culture you would know that "Ile l'anwo k'a to somo l'oruko"

MuttleyLaff:
Igbẹkẹle or Gbẹkẹle and Igbagbọ or Gbagbọ are Yoruba words
What is igbẹkẹle when translated to English?
What is igbagbọ when translated to English?

Use igbẹkẹle and igbagbọ to write a Yoruba sentence
Or translate "Mo gbẹkẹle ẹ, nitoripe mo nigbagbọ ninu ẹ" to English

Igbekele is reliance, Trust
Igbagbo is belief - to believe

I trust you because I believe in you

JMAN05:
Yap, cos am not like u.

I see, so you know all about Jehova

Rilwayne001:
What is the difference between Olodumare and Orumila?

Olodumare is the consciousness of the known universe
Orunmila is the intelligence

BabaNath:
Nigeria will be great again. I believe

was Nigeria ever great?

this same Buhari destroyed the railway sector in the 80s, GEJ brought back the trains and the op and people like you cannot speak the truth

realjoker:
GEJ is a Transformer,
he has been transforming Nigeria from bad to worst.
All hail the transformer of Otouke.

Why are they being treated this way? it's no crime to agitate for freedom

stupid law practitioners in this useless Country

Ilekeh:
Apparently, a nerve was hit.

apparently you don't like being told the truth.

you came on this thread only to insult

JMAN05:
God's is powerful. It is not for all to understand.

oOh and you understand?

Marvyx:
He dumbfounded the wise with foolish things, even the most brilliant doctors confess that He is the Most High.

Though the world may scientifically, philosophically and psychologically want to explain awesome miracles like this but as the heavens are higher than the earth, so His ways are beyond the depth of human comprehension.
The Lord is great.

Oh please shut up what happened here happens all the time. . people get mental illness from a blow to the head and others get healed by the same thing

is this Diepreiye Alamieyeseigha the same Governor GEJ worked under as DG?

Many languages don't even have a word for Faith, they use translations for Loyalty, Trust, Belief (so I believe such a psychological state doesn't really exist). . in yoruba we just use "belief. to believe we know comes with justification, faith as its described doesn't
The word "Faith" coming from the Latin word "Fides" meaning trust close to "Fidelis" meaning Loyalty/Faithfulness ..the word in english/christianity has evolved into a non-existent feeling
The Psychological state taken for Faith is actually Delusion or at best Hope

shortgun:
Na wa ooo you claim to be versed in Christian theology and very deep spiritual person yet you can't understand a simple Bible verse.
OK.... Let me break it down for you.
The verse above is simply saying if you want to make heaven you have to forsake your "I too know" mentality and behave like a kid.
What do children do?....... they obey without asking questions, they are guided, they are directed, they follow, they look up to their parents for everything........

I am a Christian by faith not by scientific facts..... Any day a Christian starts to question the authenticity of the Bible..... he is no longer worthy to be called a Christian.

the same verse is interpreted differently by others. . there's the interpretation that Children are with less sin and closer to "God"

what makes your interpretation better than this one?

shortgun:
Matthew 18:3
And he said: "Truly I tell you, unless you change and
become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom
of heaven.

you are so confused, this has nothing to do with what I posted earlier

but lemme ask, are you like a child yourself?