₦airaland Forum

sportsmaster:
1cor14:2:-" if any man speaks in tongues,he speaks NOT UNTO MEN but UNTO GOD for NO MAN UNDERSTANDS HIM,howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries."

so we have no way to confirm that anyone truly speaks in tongues or interpret what you are saying

TheOtherview:
So that's it - I am too attached to things I read off the internet about African history?
Do you see why I harboured doubts about your ability to separate the wheat from the chaff, in order to provide any real illumination here?

you did note my advice for you to be careful?
I wish not to argue with you futher on the site that claimed Jews and subsaharan africans have genes that only split 2000years ago because you are attached to such things you read already
notice how no name was attached to the team of geneticists who discovered that

now considering this "discovery" is inconsistent with all known history

sportsmaster:
i attend saints community church where members are all bred/trained to function in and with the things of GOD.
Our World Changers Conference(WCC) holds in december,where we will be going to reach out to villages.
If you wanna see the power of God in demonstration,i will admonish you to come around.

ok

malvisguy212:
you look confused and bitter, my God and the pagan gods are different,from the days of Moses uptil today this gods are made with iron and bronze, or are you forcing your gods on me?

Oh! you fool, it's not bitterness it's just that u don't like hearing things ur pastor hasn't told u.

I already told u, idols are not what are worshipped.
you also make use of idols FYI

TheOtherview:
There you again - inferring yet another claim which neither of those two articles make.
With all due respect, it will be difficult to continue this discussion with you; because you are not interpreting the information presented correctly.

You sit in judgement and pooh-pooh the efforts of scholars, who are pretty clear about the limitation of their own research. How does that work bro?



^^^If genes were allegedly swapped close to 2000 years ago, is it not conceivable that a small cohort of Yoruba people and vice versa share genes? How does making this particular claim - however disagreeable you find it - tally with the views you are expounding? Was Yorubaland not populated over time by successive waves of migration? Do you see why arguing in the manner you have done so far, runs counter to serious scholarship?

On a secondary note, if Igbale Aiye is indeed 450,000 years old; can we completely discount the possibility of an outbound migration from West Africa to Egypt/the Middle East? I should explain that this latter line of reasoning is slowly gaining some currency within the ranks of Afrocentric scholars, who see no reason why the locus of ancestral links should exist outside Africa.

With the greatest amount of humility, I am going to say: I have seen and read enough, to know that NL is incapable of supporting serious discussions on this subject.

you are too attached to these things you read off the internet about African history. you know there are euro centric claims as well as afrocentric
so be careful

Akpobaro:
i gave the bible verses that described the real identity of the israelites. You did not want to beleive because of your stupid inferior complexity. ALWAYS THINK WITH WISDOM. OK. The real Israelites are in WEST AFRICA and SOUTHERN AFRICA.

Akpobaro:
SHUT UP!!! YOU ARE INSANE !!!. BLOODY HYPOCRITE! Please back to Pre school class of Five years olds. Even a small child that read those verses in the bible , will understand it. You are a DISGRACE to YOUR FAMILY and YOURSELF!!!

Job 30:26-31
26Yet when I hoped for good, evil came;
when I looked for light, then came darkness.
27The churning inside me never stops;
days of suffering confront me.
28I go about blackened, but not by the sun;
I stand up in the assembly and cry for help.
29I have become a brother of jackals,
a companion of owls.
30My skin grows black and peels;
my body burns with fever.
31My lyre is tuned to mourning,
and my pipe to the sound of wailing

any intelligent person can see that this describes a sick man whos skin grew black out of suffering not that he is black by default. to job this blackened skin was awful and unusual.


Lamentations 4:6-8
"6The punishment of my people
is greater than that of Sodom,
which was overthrown in a moment
without a hand turned to help her.
7Their princes were brighter than snow
and whiter than milk,
their bodies more ruddy than rubies,
their appearance like lapis lazuli.
8But now they are blacker than soot;
they are not recognized in the streets.
Their skin has shriveled on their bones;
it has become as dry as a stick.

here we see Prophet Jeremiah's description of Israel's suffering. .
he states that the people were white but blackened and thinned by suffering

Jeremiah 14:1-5
"1This is the word of the Lord that came to Jeremiah concerning the drought:

2“Judah mourns,
her cities languish;
they wail for the land,
and a cry goes up from Jerusalem.
3The nobles send their servants for water;
they go to the cisterns
but find no water.
They return with their jars unfilled;
dismayed and despairing,
they cover their heads.
4The ground is cracked
because there is no rain in the land;
the farmers are dismayed
and cover their heads.
5Even the doe in the field
deserts her newborn fawn
because there is no grass.

here we see israel suffering from drought.
kjv says they are black unto the ground and idiom the English International version translate as they "wail for the land"
wailing - making a loud long cry of sorrow

Lamentations 5:10
our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine

this verse speaks for itself. .. famine caused the unusual black skin

so please stop your fallacy and stop disgracing your family

@gatiano. am sorry I don't reply deranged men who cannot understand simple information and comic sarcasm

stop quoting me all the time. ..u should notice by now that I don't regard you for shit

EUROBOMBER:
Yourbas too want to be attached to Israel?

No sir. we don't. .. these folks aren't even yoruba

Akpobaro:
you are a Stupid Brainwashed slowpoke. You suppose to be CHAINED. Because you are MENTALLY SICK. the Black Skin is the BEST SKIN. Because it contains Melanin and can survive in any weather condition in the world. And GOD is a BLACK MAN.

look at this deranged bastard son of a slave who couldn't teach you history

it's u who is brainwashed and very moronic people like you should b chained and sent to Israel

Obviously by quoting bible verses of sick men describing their unusual skin reaction to the famine
have you ever even read the verses you quoted or you are just too stupid to make sense of it?

do I need to feed you on understanding the simple message passed in Song of solomon 1:5-6 and 5:11, Job 30:30, Lamentations 4:8 and 5:10, Jeremiah 14:2

pentag0nal:
The problem is that if we do it all of you will be shouting that we cannot do that on your land that we should go back to our land and cause wahala, is it not so?

you must be a child. enough said. . if you still don't make sense of what I have told you
go jump into a fight with random people on the streets since that's ur idea of bravery

Ombudsman123:
They should be made to bear the full brunt of disobeying lawful directives of legally constituted authority simple..... Law is no respecter of persons/groups.

Fulani herds men have not been dealt with by the authorities, it's the locals who face them alone.

pentag0nal:
yoruba should tell awusa to stop disrespecting their host by causing wahala on their land. This is what they would have said if it were Igbo. hausa should go back to their land and cause wahala with NA not on lagos or is lagos no a no man land?

This is so stupid.
please what's the disrespect to yoruba here? if anything its the Nigerian army that was disrespected

funny how you want to tell us how to behave on our land.. is it by force to fight? the traders haven't offended anybody but the NA, so the army should handle the problem
yoruba are no illiterate fools who jump into a fight for no reason

Akpobaro:
The Fake Caucasian(white) jews in Israel are the descendants of Judaism converts in Europe. They are The Khazarias from the Kingdom of Khazaria(Modern Ukraine and Georgia). The REAL ISRAELITES are in WEST AFRICA and SOUTHERN AFRICA. GOD and JESUS CHRIST are BLACK. This are the evidences in the Bible are Song of solomon 1:5-6 and 5:11, Job 30:30, Lamentations 4:8 and 5:10, Jeremiah 14:2. Read them and open your inner eyes.

God is a black man?
I have dealt you severally on those verses and how they describe people suffering from famine and skin conditions. ..but a dunce like you would take it to mean Negro skin. ..the black skin must be as a result of sickness and famine then

TheOtherview:
To be honest, I am not sure I understand your bone of contention here.

How can anyone who has a handle on the growing body of knowledge on Yoruba history, as you claim, be so virulently opposed to archaeological and dna evidence which has been throwing up new possibilities? Do you know that an ancestral link need not be direct? Furthermore, where exactly have I made any absolute claims in what I have written so far?

what archaeological and dna evidence? I noticed you folks keep lying on genetics

am I not really against you but your source. ..the ones that try to link yoruba to hebrews

Source: http://racerelations.about.com/b/2011/08/11/new-research-finds-jews-have-african-ancestry.htm



Source: http://www.informationng.com/2013/06/aregbesola-amosun-soyinka-visit-450000-year-old-village-believed-to-be-origin-of-mankind.html

DNA testing most be consistent with history bro. 2000 years is too late a time for Jewish and Black genes to split. ..What would you then say of cushites?

I would encourage you to loosen up on the patronizing tone a bit, as inquiry is usually best advanced in a non-adversarial manner.
It would do us both no good if I were also to start grand-standing

"There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know" ~Donald Rumsfeld

Mr. man I know yoruba are No jews, we never were.

malvisguy212:
pagan without knowledge you are , the idols were made of bronze, brass and iron. who made this element?
This element were created together with the universe, and it was created by a spiritual being, A God who exist out Side time would created such element.

You fool. I said idols aren't worshipped. how many times would I teach you what idols are and what they are meant for

Chukwugekwu:
sorry I thought u have common sense

I always knew you lack a ggood head above your shoulders. but I thought you like to fight
jumping into unnecessary fights is bravery in igboland is it? You just come here putting a shame on your ethnicity

pentag0nal:
keep quiet mr macof. If it were Igbos that clashed with soldiers in lagos you would be shouting that we should go and do that on our land that we cannot do that in your land. Why are you not shouting now? The hausa should go and do their wahala in their own land not lagos or is lagos now a no man land?

try it please. clash with soldiers in lagos you have permission to flex your muscles and fight foolishly and stupidly as that's your idea of bravery

Chukwugekwu:
your coward is increasing by the day. ....can't u go and fight hausa and leave igbos alone .........shameless thing

in Igbo land do your people just pick up weapons and pick random people to fight? such stupidity and foolishness
you call that show of bravery? fighting without a cause like a mad man?

Chukwugekwu:
igbos are not coward ...We don't run mouth neither afraid of any man. ...

I wish we will meet one on one then u will know that we don't run mouth. ...
go and fight hausa leave igbos alone. ...shameless goat

yet your dumb chiefs are slaughtered by the fulani in Anambra and enugu

more running mouth @ bold

it's not by force to fight. Hausa have done us no wrong
This is NA problem

babestella:
You forgot that if the Hausa rampage starts, the whole Mile 12 goes on fire & you won't even see the soldier again because they will like few Hausa traders and zoom off to reinforce. please be reasonable. The Hausa traders are like their cow herders brothers, they kill anything breathing.

What nonsense hausa rampage? is it not them that would suffer? is it not thier markets that goes on fire?
while the intelligent yoruba traders are protecting their wares the fools among you igbos expect the type of foolish action you are used to making
irrational and foolish actions in igbo language must be the same word with bravery such that you fools cannot tell the difference

Chukwugekwu:
when you leave the ass that mess and throwing a knock to the head that never do anything .........then I smelt coward

you think you never do anything? the nonsense you constitute on this thread is what? Hausa know better they keep quiet and respect themselves and their hosts

the Op is talking about a clash between Hausas and NA not Hausa and yoruba. ..get that into ur dumb brain at least

Chukwugekwu:
have u ever seeing a servant fighting with his master. .....
If you fight hausa then buharı wil deal with u

The same way Igbos never fight with their masters the Edo and Ijaw?
you should see yourself as a case study

funkybully:
Sophisticated accomodating host have no answer to this day light daring.

If na igbo they will bare their cowardly fangs.

is this a yoruba problem or a Nigerian army problem
the same soldiers who were most likely Hausas

u see why yoruba have problems with you - many of you igbos only run mouth on Internet, while acting like tamed kitty cats on the streets of lagos

opsynea2j:
Gov Fashola was able to fix and sanitize Oshodi , he should help fix mile 12 if even with a very strong hand before he leaves office . The greatest traffic on ikorodu road is always caused at mile 12 (both sides)

Yes and also with the smell from those markets

AustineE1:
Am surprise at Nigerian soldiers,Mile 2 for long belong to the Hausas and no government in Lagos state ever dare to collect taxes or anything of such from that area,it is an unwritten law in Lagos.When these people are provoked,they chase everybody from that Area.Most Yoruba residents sleeps with one eye open,infact the Hausa boys even tax the resident of Mile 2 whenever they wish.Its such a pity,at times they impose levies on native yorubas.

another illiterate. the topic here is even about Mile 12 this fool is here talking shit about the Mile 2 of his dreams

cupidhero:
Traders fighting soldiers and yet none of them was shot? I'm sure the story would have been different if the traders come from a different tribe.

the soldiers were most likely hausa speakers... we all know Hausa speakers are more in the NA
and many are dispatched to Lagos


But idiots like the Igbo fools I see here want to bring yorubas into a fight we aren't involved in

and please you fools ... this is Hausa traders, Nigerian soldiers clash

NA has people from all over not just yorubas, it's likely the Unit involved in the clash were Igbos or Hausa without a single yoruba man involved while the two parties entertainment their yoruba hosts

Wait! what kind of idiotic comments am I reading here

so soldiers are fighting certain traders that happen to be hausa (or just hausa speakers) and now the yoruba are cowards for running away

omg! reading comments for such iilliterate Igbos like this could even turn me into a bigot.

it's only a very insane man like those of you with such comments that would stand and watch or join a fight you stand nothing to gain from, rather than take your wares to safety and protect your body from unnecessary harm. .. that's stupidity not bravery

no young lady wants to work again. .later they scream feminism...

getting pregnant for a celebrity is the new pay

lastmessenger:
these men written in the bible would have been God fearing captains of industry, technocrats, scientists, great politicians and preachers if they are alive today. Look u have seen what u wanted to see in the bible. We see what we want to see. Is all about choice.

Which would make the bible jst a common book based on perspective and aleeady made conceptions
do you agree?

sportsmaster:
.

The fact is that you never believed in the first place.

The reason is simple,you have never experienced the POWER OF GOD

By faith,i have ministered to the sick on several ocassions.People with fever and headaches.They were healed..

Ministered to a DEAF person only on one occassion. his hearing was restored.
i have gotten few people filled the Holy Ghost...

I have prayed on behalf of a relative that was pronounced DEAD and she came back to life..

The truth is when you see the Power of God at work,YOU will become much more grounded..
The fact that you can quote from Genesis to Revelation does not mean u have the DEPTH OF INSIGHT AND REVELATION THAT IS THEREIN...
Still looking foward to open blind eyes and healing the crippled.I TRUST GOD IN ALL BOLDNESS AND FAITH for divers demonstration of the POWER OF GOD.

do you own a church or minster in one? I wanna see you in action

sportsmaster:
..
Even if i explain from now to tomorrow you still cannot FATHOM/UNDERSTAND the very bit/least of it..i told u earlier.the things of God are not for UNBELIEVERS(e.g YOU)

so you believe for no reason out of no grounds or basis before you understand the things you are actually already believing

cool bro