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fightforchange1:
I know those theu r the most important in the religion.
But thanks anyways

You're welcome
Surely only an initiated Awo wit years of experience can list close to 100
It's almost impossible to know all 401

Maybe cus most of the 401 are usually compressed into one cult under one name...I think this process produces the pataki


There are others I have heard of but I don't know their roles eg Ayelala, Oro

bigfrancis21:
Unbanned from anti-spam's clutches of death.

Lol thanks

DrViviSarj:
If you don't believe in God, dats ur own na. Y bring it to NL? So we can applaud or pity you? Nah! See let me tell you, the bible says in rev 22 vs 11: Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy. you know what that means? In as much as God even loves you despite the rubbish that proceeds from your empty brain, He is not begging you eeh! God no dey beg anybody if you don't believe in Jesus Christ and dat he came to die for your filthy sins, YOU WILL GO TO HELL!!! No be begging matter. It's not by force. Buh if you think you are do smart, y not think of it in this light, if you believe with all your heart and read the bible and actually give your life to Christ and at the end time, God isn't real, what do you have to lose?? Nothing. Buh if you don't believe, and at the end time, God is real. Very real. Lols. What do you have to lose? Everything!!!

Actually ur God is so desperate for human attention and cares what we think. He is practically begging for worship. If he wasn't, he wouldn't send himself to die so to appease Himself
He is bored, he has no better job to do than torment and threaten his own faulty creations

U Christians say he created humans just to worship him. ..that's the highest point of silliness. ..what happened to the angels?


Ur logic only exposes ur dull intellect. .. if ur God was real, it is only expected that he shows himself through nature - that we are part of
But from all that is natural, I see no signs of Jehova
I don't need to keep myself in a lie when I can break free and expose it for what it really is

fightforchange1:
Ohh ok. So could you give a list of the ones you know and their functions?

Obatala - creator Spirit, sent to make the human body, clarity of mind, assigns divine energy (Ase )
Orunmila - keeper of knowledge, repairer of bad luck and misfortune, omniscient one, giver of intellect
Ogun - Lord of metallic elements, creator of bones, first of the Spirits to arrive earth, clearer of the way (removes obstacles)
Yemoja - mother of life, mother of water, mother of fishes, mother of the Spirits
Jakuta (Sango) - judge and fighter against the unjust and wicked, spirit of lightening and thunder, son of fire
Olomitutu (Osun) - freshwater spirit, rivers, protector of abused and vulnerable women, female Sexuality
Olokun - spirit of great waters, seas and oceans, mother of wealth, keeper of the deep, protector of sailors and explorers
Oya - winds, storm, fighter woman, announcer of life and death
Oba - I don't know much about her but there is a river named Oba
Ologunsese (Osossi) - hunter protector, pathfinder
Oduduwa - Great mother goddess, creator Spirit, transformer, matter formation and expansion
Aje - spirit of trade, business and owner of wealth
Aroni - beauty of nature, spirit of the forest, owner of plants and trees
Osanyin - Spirit of health, owner of herbs

I believe this is helpful

fightforchange1:
I like names like femi and morenike.
Femi-princess.
Morenike- pampered one.
Folemi- respect and honor me.
Iyalode-great queen.

lemme help with a little better accuracy. Femi is "beloved" or better "love me"
It's short for names like Obafemi - beloved of the King / the King loves me

Iyalode - mother at the helm of affairs

themanderon:
Every individual should be judged not by his tribe, colour, race ,money, beauty or ugliness, but by the content of his character, there are good yorubas as well as igbos, there are also the bad ones amongst them, this has been how it has been from the beginning and so shall it be even in a thousand years and there is nothing any of you can do about it. You can either live with it or go kiss the donkey's DooDah .

Oto oro. . True talk

I wonder how the likes of An2elect2 can comfortably watch over 7 trillion people including some of her family and friends suffer for all eternity

funny you aren't sure of making this heaven

BERNIMOORE:
Fayose Demand a thoughtful answer to these (1) and (2) points below based of facts and figures,unfortunately our dear Muazu felled flat before these questions



https://www.nairaland.com/2278079/see-gov-fayose-dancing-after

[size=14pt]HURRICANE FAYOSE'S RECORD VS APC[/size]

1)Governorship election: 16 - 0
2) Presidential election: 16 - 0
3)Senatorial election: 16 - 0 (all 3 seats won by PDP)
4)Reps election: 16 - 0 (all 6 seats won by PDP)
5)State Assembly election: 26 - 0 (all 26 seats won by PDP)

Again Fayose Won;
(6)Tribunal court (Gov Election)PDP
(7)Appeal court(Gov Election)PDP
(8)Supreme court(Gov Election)PDP
Haba Fayose Over deliver i beg!

Muazu where Art Thou? pleease resign honorably Ejoo emaa lo!

Fayose of Africa
That's our man

One thing I realize is that, a man who thinks lik an Abrahamist(Muslim, Christian) would see the creator as a holy, all doing what is good and best for you God
BUt actually the Creator doesn't give a bleep what you think about it, what you call it or whether you worship it or not
Before you it was, after you it will be

Lesser intelligent animals don't worship like we do (if they worship at all )
Yet they share all the joys and horror of nature like we do


We all have what we need to survive, intellect is one - use it and stop thinking the way your pastors and imams program you to think, lik you are some mindless dumb robot

In hell there would be all your favorite pastors who suck you dry

Lol christianity redefined

Op the bible is very clear

The sun was created after the earth

fightforchange1:
I bought booKs about it.... And online...ill eventually take a new course.

ok
you might not be aware but listing Orisa is very difficult because they differ from region to region, even between families
Ifa doesn't give the final standard for such devotions
Ones grandma could be an orisa devoted to
, the founder of a dynasty etc

But Irunmole is another thing, these ones have a standard by Ifa
401 Irunmole can be available on earth

holloowersheun:
Lol... Y do u say dat

Check out YouTube
You see many Santeria devotees with so much passion for the Yoruba identity
Here mosque and churches won't let you hear word

Esdb3:
They preached the light to us because they were privileged to. Do you know how many tribes African missionaries have preached to? How is it 'their religion'? What is wrong with you these people, why can't you see what the new world order is doing.

The bible doesn't ask you to kill cows or go around naked, it only demands your fellowship, prosperity and holy living coupled with peacefulness! Why can't you just worship God or don't worship him and shut the bleep up!!!!!!

Lol so you expect me to be so stupid to believe that the Creator only reviled himself to a small group of Semetic people
While my ancestors were in darkness

I cannot insult myself in such manner
Pls wat new world order are you talking about? The one where africans no longer have pride in their identity and wish to cling to Others at all cost? The one where africans lick Hebrew and Arab shit

Maybe u lot should stop disturbing my peace wit ur stupid church noise and speakers, stop insulting my ancestors, stop spending hours preaching against Paganism rather than minding ur bible business, stop giving me fly out for church services and stop preaching about a dead jew to me
Mind ur slave mentality and mind it alone

Tycyborg:
I think that explains it... Didnt think of that at first... Thanks

Lol
But really those yoruba folks in the Carribeans are more yoruba than 70% of those in west africa who have been disgracing the ancestors

Where are you studying? Are you learning from an initiate or learning it as a university course?

This way I can know how best to help you

sukkot:
oh sorry. i forgot you are one of these self hating low self esteem black people who only respect what the white man writes. who will tell your history better than you ? a white man ? lets just end this convo cuz i see i am not going to get anywhere with someone with your anti-black sentiments

Oh you mistake me for some one else

I am a proud African man. . So proud I don't need to claim other ppeople's civilizations

You don't just make claims from nonsense u read from questionable sources like a jew speaking on my own history

sukkot:
there is even more history before that. before we got to benin or ikorodu we were in modern day egypt and modern day syria, lebanon and israel till we got kicked into the interiors of africa by the emerging powers of that time which were the arabs and the roman empire. so we were not always in west africa. we were once in northeast africa which israel and egypt is northeast africa. so many of our people cant see beyond a 200 year history. i have traced our history back 6000 years and i can emphatically tell you there is no such thing as yoruba or igbo or benin or etc etc

What's all this nonsense shit you drawing up.
Roman Imperialism and Arab invasion of North africa didn't happen 6000yrs ago but a 2000-1500yr range there about
Your claims are inconsistent with all known history

sukkot:
i think you need to do some more research. start with a book called ' from babylon to timbucktu '. it details exactly how black people ended up in west africa from what is called the middle east and egypt today. there is no such thing as ' yoruba ' or ' benin '. these are all after the fact concoctions. look at the sphinx and all the monuments in egypt ? do they not all look like yoruba men today ? . better do some research because when it comes to these types of topics, i am well researched

Lol this is it? You refer me to a book written by a black American jew?
Pls you don't expect me to take his book seriously...with all the religious sentiments and Hebrew sire

This is why I tell children to be careful what they read and most of all scrutinize everything

Lemme ask u. . Did you ever wonder where he got his information from? How he figured the migratory pattern? Assumptions and guess work maybe

No! Egyptian art doesn't look Yoruba. Yoruba art looks Yoruba
Stop looking to foreigners for yoruba history

When you look to the wrong places for your research

sukkot:
[b]bro, either way i dont care about tribal affiliations. never have and never will. i personally believe all these tribal affiliations are concoctions created within the past thousand years or two because all these people you find in west africa today under all these tribal delineations all relocated to that region from present day egypt and the middle-east and they were all one nation of people at that point in time. it was when they started settling in west africa after getting kicked out of egypt and the middle-east by the romans is when they started proliferating into tribal categories based on who got where first and what dialect they picked up. SO EITHER WAY I DONT CARE WHO IS WHO. I PERSONALLY THINK ALL NEGROS ARE THE SAME PEOPLE. however i was simply passing along information that my father told me about the yorubas, and especially the ones in ikorodu, and that is that we are benin. either way it makes no difference to me if we are classified benin or yoruba because my classification of who we are goes beyond when the words benin and yoruba were formed. we are the ancient CANAANITE NATION. thats who all negros really are. we are not benin or yoruba or igbo or whatever it is we are calling ourselves today[/b]

I thought as much
One of those who look to the middle east
Now you have changed the topic to negros coming from the middle east
How can you possibly believe that the black race is descended from Semites? This is sad really

Not only is your "One nation from Egypt and the middle-east" inconsistent with all known history, there's also no records of such migration from that part of the world into sub saharan africa

Try to care more about your history and origins

sukkot:
i think a huge chunk of ikorodu falls under that category. keep in mind this migration to ikorodu was several generations ago so that some may not remember. also keep in mind he is a very educated man with 4 degrees from london and has written a couple of books so he is not just some local guy coming up with useless information. my dad that is.

To be honest this is nonsense unless u can
First trace ur bloodline to any Bini man
Secondly other lineages in Ikorodu do same

I have lived in Ikorodu and they are pure Ijebu. ..I even spoke with elders about their connection to the larger Ijebu in Ogun state. If at all there are Bini lineages in Ikorodu (I believe that's very possible) that doesn't make all Ikorodu or Yoruba from Bini like you think
You mean some may not remember but ur dad does because he has 4 degrees from london...you are wrong
If there's any people to know the history of the lineages best it is the old men who have lived all their lives in the town

bright007:
You obviously missed it. Fine, there were people already in the west before Oodua came but they were more or less not organised. Simply put, they were bush men. But the emergence of Oodua brought political organisation to the Yoruba race as is evident that his children conquered other regions and ruled over them.

.....and yes, Oranmiyan was Oodua's son but since Oodua is from Benin, its same as saying an Edo son is ruling her people. The story of the Yorubas is similar to that of Lagos. The ancestor of the traditional rulers in Yoruba land is from Edo state. ( in person of Oodua)


the Edos rule Lagos. The ancestors of the traditional rulers in Lagos are Edo sons and do pay tribute to the Oba of Benin up to this day e.g Oba of Lagos

Utter rubish
the way yoruba give you people headache is so amazing
Even non-Binis want to teach Bini and Yoruba history more than us

Bonethugss:
As i always say, we Nigerians are not united at ALL. The tribal bigotry is just too much. May God help us, tooo many tribes hence the tribal divide.. but still our main problem is that we aint accomodating... Customer service - zero, Manners - zero, etiquette - zero, i need not go on.
We just need to remember that our citizenship comes first, we are Nigerians first and our tribe comes second.

No. We are our ethnicities before Nigeria
This Citizenship - Nigerian was forced on us all by men like you and I
Infact we are family first

You all need to quit your delusions and sentiments

AreaFada2:
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Father of all Yoruba true. But it's not same as progenitor.

They are not all his biological descendants.

sure

But stil
I am #Omo Oodua

AreaFada2:

1. According to Yoruba mythology, all Yoruba people are descendants of Odua or Oduduwa. And today, there are over fifty individuals who claim kinship as descendants of Odua/Oduduwa.


This very first one is problematic.
Ododuwa cannot possibly be the progenitor of all Yoruba people. As convenient and fraternity-promoting as it might seem, it cannot be true.

Oduduwa lived less than 1000 years ago. Yoruba people have lived in SW 9ja for thousands of years. Whether they called themselves different names depending on local identity or not.

Odua brought a better integration and a slightly more centralised system through his sons that founded many dynasties or replaced existing local ones. Even then, most of those Kingdoms only nominally felt under Ife influence.

I descend from a ruling house that claims Odua as progenitor by the way.

A king is the father of the people.
Oduduwa is the father of the Yorubas

skullbaba:
Not all yoruba are from oduduwa. The oduduwa story is created by 'WE' oyo to show supremacy, and this story was propagated by the likes of samuel johnson and co. If you check earlier writings like lagos census you will notice that it is only OYO that is call yoruba and others were represented with their own name too like the ijesa,igbomina, ekiti,ijebu etc there is even evence that it was the hausaa/fulani jihad that named the oyos 'Yoruba' which later change to 'yoruba'. To those that believe in oduduwa story what are you going to call the ekitis that never appear in the history of yoruba but appear in the more-guilded Ifa literary corpus that even oRunmila once lived and ruled before going to ile-ife. Any history anybody want to relate should try and compare is story well with Ese-Ifa cos it is more reliable than most assumptions because of it religious usefulness. One thing is certain 'WE OYO' are the. Political and military guidance of the Yoruba Nation which helps us in distort history just like the former is also trying to do. Please Non-yoruba if you want to add to the discussion/argument/debate please use evidence from the Yoruba nation Only. Any evidence from other nation be it igbo,hausa,bini or europeans will be rejected by ME but people from other NATION can contributes. Thanks

Lmao so Oyo created Oduduwa story
Tell me more. ...
Oh! Nd it was the Malians who called Oyo Yarriba

While Ekiti are an old people. .elements of pre-Oduduwa is still present in many towns but We were influenced by Ife as much as other groups

kendrick9:
they are also known for being dubious and hate filled

Kind sir. I've come to realize that We all hate each other in Nigeria
Igbo hates everybody else
Yoruba hates everybody else
Hausa hates ever body else
Ijaw same
Right down to Ogoni, Idoma etc

You know why? Nigeria is driving all of us crazy

sukkot:
you may have a point. i am yoruba but my dad told me that in actuality we are benin and that yorubas are from benin. this what he told me so dont shoot the messenger lol

Ask ur dad well maybe ur lineage is from Bini certainly not mine or other Yorubas out there

tunery004:
I heard the same story while I was in Edo state also, but it is obvious that oduduwa never migrated from Benin. Its just a mean to gain more importance, same way the Yorubas believe that it was Oranmiyan who founded Benin. He might be from either Mecca, Sudan or Egypt

at the rate people love to claim Oduduwa
He could even be from China

bright007:
if Yoruba people are descendants of Oduduwa, then Yorubas originated from Benin. this is because Oduduwa is Prince ekekeredaiken, a true benin son who was banished from Benin

Lol OK this is what you choose to believe
But Ekaladerhan doesn't fit Oduduwa's personality

Delusions everywhere. Nigerians will remain poor and unhappy until we realize the whole project of Nigeria is a failure