₦airaland Forum

tpiadotcom:
Bro, perhaps your area was conquered by Bini, just saying. Not everybody can relate with that.


In addition, the western Yorubas are the easy going ones. If you are looking for the warring groups, check easternly.

nope my area was under oyo instead but some areas of East Yorubaland were under Bini notably Owo and Akure
What warring groups in the east can be compared to Egba, Owu and Oyo?

bigfrancis21:
The article mentioned Ilorin all through engaging in the sale of slaves, and not Oyo empire as you previously claimed. Mind you, the Ilorin empire at the peak of its slave trade activities was already a fulani emirate, after the Yorubas had been overthrown by the Fulanis and the Fulanis took over power till today. The ilorin slave trade is about Fulanis selling Yorubas in their own land and not Yorubas selling Hausas/Fulanis. Thus, the Ilorin slave trade can be effectively said to be a Fulani slave trade of sorts, selling Yorubas into slave trade, as well as captives from the North. I see no other Yoruba empire achieving such feat as the fulani-led empire of Ilorin. Not even Oyo empire.

you talk like Ilorin is a fulani city, u you refuse to deal with facts that Ilorin has more yoruba population than non-yoruba(Fulani, Nupe, Bariba, Hausa are present in the city)

It wasn't a fulani slave trade but Ilorin (majorly yoruba) slave trade
Just as Ilorin sold slaves from neighboring yoruba towns like Offa, they sold from the north too. .most slaves came from kano market (didn't you read that? )

You don't see because you choose toClose your eyes to it

Fulaman198:
Indeed loll I've never seen such ridiculous claims in my whole life until venturing on this forum.

I'll leave the Yoruba folks here to revel in their fantasies that never existed.

You say yoruba having slaves is a ridiculous claim. this is a greater fantasy
there are records of Oyo slave markets in badagry. .the area where the Dutch called Ojo (corrupting Oyo)
Records of Ilorin slave heritage of the non-yoruba population
records of other yorubas buying slaves from Ilorin after the fall of Oyo
records of Ijebu selling slaves to Europeans from the those purchased from Oyo

What you should do is to ask intellectual questions on the matter you obviouslyknow nothing about rather than turn this into ethnic battle

bigfrancis21:


Some online users would re-invent any story just to keep soothing themselves. Having realized they are losing out in the present, they resort to re-inventing past history to keep body, mind and soul together.

I'm glad Macof provided that link which clearly said that the Yorubas in Ilorin were defeated by the Fulanis in their midst, thus leading to the establishment of the Fulani emirate in Ilorin, in stark contrast to an article that made the front page few weeks ago where the author was claiming 'we allowed the fulanis to rule for sometime and they never returned power back to us...we were never defeated by the fulanis'. Re-inventing history and putting themselves at the spotlight is now the cool thing to do to assert some 'greatness'.

Oh My God, bunch of funny clowns on this forum. Some false history lied to them since birth has all come crumbling down like a pack of wild cards.

defeated? What are you saying? The yoruba Muslims actually teamed with the fulani at Ilorin. .this was a case of betrayal takin religious affiliation over ethnic brotherhood
you did read the part about fulani Muslim slaves taken in by Afonja
and Ilorin after gaining independence taken over Oyo duties on reselling slaves from the north
I told you, if you are looking for ethnic bigots who sugar coat history you look elsewhere

bigfrancis21:
Evidence, please. I am willing to learn.

best place for this is at the University of Ilorin
because of ur request i had to serach and there's this article -Ilorin as a Slaving and Slave-Trading Emirate - York University
It discusses Ilorin as a Slaving route as an Oyo base and as Emirate
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.yorku.ca/nhp/plovejoy/muslim_volume/chapter3%2520pages%252055-68.pdf&sa=U&ei=gudBVcT7D5DWaomPgLAI&ved=0CAYQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNG6P6Zxv1RwbgxrNEPeINsnVFGq3A

Fulaman198:
Fulani slaves in Yorubaland? I laugh in Fulfulde. It was the other way around. Yorubas never had slaves. Probably the Edos (who owned you guys btw) did. I'm not too sure, but definitely Fulanis were never Maccube of Yoruba. Maybe in your wildest dreams that happened my Yoruba friends. But nice try though.

smh this is poor thinking. Fulaman certainly you are better than this
So some eastern yoruba kingdoms were under Edo means Edo owns Yorubas
I guess wit this logic British own africans

Fulaman198:
I don't know why Yorubas like to make stuff up that never happened. Yorubas were never even an ethnic group of power. You guys were conquered by the Benin people (Edos) Yet you think you sold Fulani into slavery? It was more the other way around but I don't want to mention it because it's wrong to discuss such things.

Yorubas never sold Fulani in slavery

Made wat up? Lmao I can assure you Yorubas were an ethnicgroup of power. And only the eastern Yorubas were conquered by Bini, the warring and trading groups were found much westernly

Pls mention it

bigfrancis21:
By the way, when did the selling of fellow african tribesmen into slavery become a thing of valour and pride?? Or is this re-invented 'slave trade feat' in the past a response to the so-called taunts of cowardice?

who said anything about pride and Valor? I was merely correcting what you posted out of ignorance
you see where I am different from a bigot like you is that all parts of history are treated the same. It's not about pride or shame. .it's about knowing what is and not coating it on ethnic bias or sentiments and emotional attachments

bigfrancis21:
@bold...Seriously? Why would you resort to blatant lying and unrepentant re-writing of history to cover your extreme insecurities? Is this one of cheap attempts to cover up for the Yoruba subjugation to the fulani empire of Ilorin?

Oh my god. U ignorant lot give me headaches. .you have been schooled severally but ur bigoted mind won't let you take to correction

to add to wat Ladi said, Yoruba(Oyo) were hard core slave dealers.slaves gotten from all over - Fulani, Nupe, Bariba, Other yorubas from the dues payed by the Fon...in fact oyo drove the Fon to slave raiding due to its heavy demand for slaves. Yorubas also bought slaves from Mali which could have had fulani population. Hausa markets were the biggest destination for all these slaves which included very few Hausas too
They would be transported into Oyo via Ilorin, the greater of them made to stay at Ilorin tending to Oloyo(theEmperor's) horses and soldiers
And most of the fulani nd Bariba of Ilorin today are from these slaves

illiad1:
That, my friend, is the onus of the matter.

yet u have nothing to offer me my friend
you keep talking about you read this, you read that
you haven't mentioned the author, the people that settled and where they came from

I asked very simple question:who are these people that settled at Eko before Aromire
if you can't even remember this from this "book" you like to talk about then I question your purpose on bringing such matter up

Someone should do something about all the nonsense this man is posting here
I thought a Mod was following this thread

illiad1:
I will continue to look for the book. I know I would find it and when I do I would raise the topic here in nl.

Pls don't think am one of those saying lagos is no mans land. I don't support that but I do have the record that shows the yorubas were not the first settlers in lagos but that they overwhelmed the first settlers by number.

Having said that. I know and believe that everyone in lagos is at one time or the other a settler. Anyone in lagos came from somewhere and settled in lagos including the rulers of lagos and if anyone thinks otherwise, then that's because such fellow have totally lost touch with the history of their lineage.

I think that's what some people try to say when they say lagos is no mans land.

and these first settlers are from where?

theAtheist101:
Lightning is the discharge of static electricity ! During rain storm, the clouds gain a negative charge and the earth gains a positive charge. The process is called electrostatic induction. The light you see during lightning is actually a spark and the resulting sound is due to the sudden motion of charges through air.

To prevent being struck by this electricity, make sure to insulate yourself from the earth, that is, wear an insulator when going into the rain. This would disconnect you from the positively charged earth. Also, prevent touch a conductor connected to the earth, like a metal pole.

Thank Benjamin Franklin for this discovery, and curse f..ls like Sango, Amadioha and so on for their lies, that has misled millions of people.

I believe you have made yourself and expert on Sango and Amadioha

DikSin:
whatever....

ok I still appreciate the effort
and thanks for the photo...it was hilarious

illiad1:
I have also read some of those books which I mistakenly lost. There was a day we held an argument about first settlers in lagos. I was telling them that I had actually read somewhere in a book by some whitemen telling that lagos was actually first occupied and ruled by benin kingdom. I even went further to ask them what Eko means in yoruba language and none of them could answer because its a benin language. And I told them that there are many lagos names that are not yoruba and have no meaning in yoruba language. Its just so unfortunate they easily result to insults whenever they lack facts to support their lies.

I would gladly pay anything to u if only you can tell what Bini person inhabited Eko before Aromire son of Ogunfunminire, founder of the Awori

pls begin to provide this "facts" we lack but you seem to possess

teeowl:
Do Ijebu watersiders really dress differently?

Sure. Dem Ikorodu Epe

DProDG:
You haven't heard of Amadioha, Thor, Zeus, Raiden, Chaac etc?

all the same, speaking of the same lightning spirit. ..just different expression due to different cultures

harakiri:
The day my people accept natural phenomena as it is will be the day....

Lightning kills people
Floods kill people
Landslides kill people
Earthquakes kill people
Tornadoes kill people
Hurricanes kill people
Volcanic eruptions kill people

Must every single thing be attributed to the "spiritual"? These scammers called pastors have done a big number on the fragile brains of my people.

Yh Spiritual is always involved
but has nothing to do wit scammers known as pastors

People there's no such thing as Supernatural
nature is all there is and nothing can be above it

Use the word "spiritual" instead

DikSin:
senseless op trying to play smart

thank you. I appreciate
bt can u address the op?

Slizbeat:
Umm,so enlightening.

One question though, Is it the same yorubas dat refused Migration and asking everyone else to go back to their various places/homelands that would have migrated?

something smells fishy here. Why is it that no one can give an account of the language except it be heard from the King?

I hope the king is not trying to impose a new identity to the people by bringing up the Oluku mi stuff.

All the same, if true, what happens? Cos obviously the land doesn't belong to them. Would they go back to Owu/Owo in Ondo? or Wil they keep growing and making headway into Delta so we could all really blend irrespective of our original origin?

Hmm, making sense though.

I have heard the language severally I once lived in a house where Olukumi was the official language
but they don't see themselves as yoruba at all, they just say "I am delta"
Don't try to Yorubanise their names more than it already is either, they take offense

NigerMan1:
Ilekeh - there is nothing like Yorubas are everywhere!

The major problem is that most of you calling yourself Yoruba today do not understand or lack knowledge about the ORIGIN of the term/word "Yoruba" and when?why it was used to group different ethnic people in the mid 19th Century.

Here is the true origin of those people:

At the time the Great Benin Kingdom was ruling a vast part of Southern Nigeria, down to Lagos, and part of present day Middle Belt, including present day part of Cameroon and Benin Republic, slave raiding were always carried out by the Benin Warriors.

Those Yorubas were a combination of the Benin slaves and others who later fled from the incessant slave raiding and hide in the Bush. With time, they settled in their present abode.

NOTE: When you see Yoruba speaking people anywhere, as indigene, the right question you should ask is: How did they got there? Most of you guys engage in chest-beating because you do not have wider knowledge of the olden days. In the olden days, there was NO Yoruba as you have it today.

I wanted to ignore you but I noticed people are liking and sharing this piece of scrap

What part of Cameroon and Benin republic was under Bini? What towns?
You confuse Bight of Benin for Benin republic. The bight is merely a coast area Benin traders and warrior protectors camped Mr man. No people to conquer there
then Cameron? Such a suprise, when did Bini overpower Efik and their kin to march into modern Cameroon?

Yoruba Bini salves? ? Which family compounds in Bini city have a history of being yoruba slaves? For example, there are many compounds in my town..even on my street we know as slave compounds and they all trace their origins. .mostly Egbira
surely if yoruba slaves ever existed in Benin city their descendants should still remain
Dahomey don't claim yoruba slaves it's Benin that wants to claim yoruba slaves
Fon Dahomey and Nupe people are the only ones known to capture Yoruba people not Bini nt even in the slightest manner have a yoruba been known to serve a Benin household or man handled and sold by one

The Olukumi by their version of history got to their present land when Benin were still in the Ogiso Era. ..meaning before Benin became an empire. So pls look for another lie

When the name "yoruba" came to use is of no relevance here. Try getting ur Edo people together and quit your yoruba hatred

abdulkayus:
Those coverings are not worthless, rather I think u are the one being worthless for being a bigot and an intolerant being

what is their purpose in sub Sahara African soil wit its climate? What joy does it bring women?
U treat women like dogs and that's not fair

OROSUNBOLB:
Ewe people,you can read about them.

ewe people are not yoruba. They were driven to their present location by Yorubas (Ketu/Anago) and conquered by Yorubas (Oyo). I think the confusion comes from calling their original homeland Amedz-ofe wit people thinking it has something to do with Ile - Ife. ..

babyosisi:
Biko free her jor
U think it's every Muslima wearing that covering that believes in it deep in her heart
There is a Saudi girl that worked with my husband
The first thing she did after she arrived America is to cast off her heavy outer garment and she has no plans of going back
If it wasn't law in many of those countries or enforced by their husbands most women wouldn't wear them

very true. Those worthless coverings should be outlawed in african soil. ..our climate is not compatible with such clothing

efilefun:
nope its the normal hausa "lali" or so

still tattoo
but it's good to see african ladies embrace tattoos

Proudly For Akpabio

kastonkastrol:
mr man you should stop bothering yourself about people deserting aso rock, but you should start thinking about the years you will spend in prison. if i dont see jonathan, diezani, abba moro, ffk in jail by september this year, then buhari will no longer earn my respect.

#gejmustgotojail

Lol get ready to lose that respect for buhari cus nobody is going to jail