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So far I've seen so many make senseless comments...

@Glamrock you are probably more black African than 75% of Africans.
I admire your courage

SirShymexx:
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Lol. Stop spamming my mentions with illiteracy and "likes" from Igbo muppets. You can't even write coherently to begin with - and your knowledge of history is pub level at best.

Go get better educated Bini folks on my level, who actually understand history, timeline etc. to debate me. I don't do illiterate-speak.

"I don't debate those below me - I educate them" - Prof. John Henrik Clarke.

All the likes he's getting are from Yoruba hating Igbos who ultimately hang on to Bini to boast their ego
A pity tho

SirShymexx:
Well, I think you lack basic reading and comprehension skills - and reading in context isn't your forte. If you had taken time to read in context of what/who was reply was directed at - you would have seen that. Macof cited "Edoworld" - that's a website I've visited in the past, and I'm acquainted with the hyperbole on there - hence I labelled the folks on the website a lost cause. I neither denigrated your ethnic group nor vaunted superiority...but I did call out folks who're notorious for junk historical inaccuracies.


Er, you asserted that "Oba" is a Bini word - are you saying both "Obalufon" (an Ife king before Bini moved from Ogiso to Obaship), and "Obanta" (the progenitor of the Ijebus who existed way before Binis had an empire and/or started Obaship) also came from Bini? - bwahahahahaha. Like I said earlier - hyperbole is the bane of Bini history. You have got a great history, and there's no point adding extras, to boost ya non-existent egos. Stick with facts.

Also, do you know Obanta actually founded an Ijebu town in the 15th century called: "Obalufon"?

Image of Obalufon's head/mask here:

Oh jst to add some more ancient names of Yoruba ancestors before Oranmiyan went to help the Edos establish obaship

Obalesun, Obalara, Obalale, Obawinrin, Obaluru, Obalase, Obaloran, Obatala, Obaluaye...that's enough

Oba as the same root word as Iba "ba" - to pay homage, give honour
Same u find in Baba

Funny how Edo had to wait for Oranmiyan before they started using Oba...imagining Oba is native to Edo

bigfrancis21:
He was referring to the bight under which he believed his town was located - the bight of benin area. Bight of Benin extends all the way from south central Nigeria to Ghana. It includes south central and south-west nigeria, benin republic, Togo and Ghana and we all know that not all these areas and countries were under the influence of the kingdom of bini.

If it pleases you to assume that olaudah's town was under the rule of the kingdom of bini just because he mentioned his town as being in the bight of benin area, it would please me to also believe that they yoruba were under the king of bini because the much greater kingdom of bini than oyo or ife extended all the way to eko (lagos) state.

This kingdom(Benin) is
divided into many provinces or
districts: in one of the most remote
and fertile of which, called
Eboe, I was born, in the year 1745,
in a charming fruitful vale, named
Essaka. The distance of this province
from the capital of Benin and
the sea coast must be very
considerable; for I had never heard of
white men or Europeans, nor of the
sea: and our subjection to the king
of Benin was little more than
nominal; for every transaction of the
government, as far as my slender
observation extended, was conducted
by the chiefs or elders of the place.

From the link you sent to me

https://archive.org/stream/theinterestingna15399gut/15399.txt

you make me laugh
now the man doesn't know his hometown? Why then should anybody take his work seriously when he is so full of errors..even u are correcting his blunder, but get excited and choose to remain adamant on claiming Yoruba corrupted Oyibo into Oyinbo because Olaudah used Oyeebo in his book
If u don't take him seriously why should anybody?
Nt only does he fail the spelling/pronunciation of his town, he lacks the knowledge of it's location and reports falsely that his people were subjects to Oba of Benin
..but u lie Francis, and lately you've got a habit of it

The man specifically said his,town has a considerable distance from the coast and he never knew of Europeans
He also didn't mention bight of Benin, but coast of Guinea which is a different thing if u understand geography well

Keep it coming Francis, keep showing us more errors in Olaudah's book until we get to the point of "Oyeebo" and suddenly Olaudah has the final say


Well u can keep believing in ur fantasy that Benin was larger than Oyo...the outside world knows otherwise

bigfrancis21:
You are ignorant of Igbo issues. Anambra (maybe Onitsha which I doubt), Enugu and Ebonyi states (Northern Igboland) were not under Bini kingdom. The areas under Bini Kingdom are the areas closer to Bini i.e. Ika/Agbor.

It still baffles me when you have no academic proof whatsoever to prove the origin of 'oyinbo' yet there's much evidence to prove the usage of 'oyibo' in Igboland dating back to the 18th century or more.

The man u like quoting everyday, Olaudah said,his people were subjects to the Oba of Bini
I believe u said his town is in Anambra

So u only pick what you like from his book?
How mature

Scholes007:
no no no ekwe nsu have neva been a respected god in igbo land but it is a feared god that brings terror if a group go against the god of the land...in other words he is a tool used by chineke to punish people

we are still saying the same thing.
Ekwensu is jst like Esu of the Yoruba, punisher of the disobedient

But respected is the keyword here

BuddahMonk:
you dont like arguing Geography with an Igboman when you only traveled from Odogbolu to Badagry, have you ever stepped out of your yolobaland before claiming an authority in geography, you consider fulanis minority in ilorin but they are occupying all the traditional institutions there and even chasing you around at Oshogbo to corner that side as well.

Anioma are Biafrans and nothing a yolobaman said that will change anything

Again u prove ur low level of intelligence like most Igbos on this matter. Like I said u aren't intelligent if u were u won't base such a silly assumption on a person you've never met

I have conducted several interviews with anioma people, as I have in-laws from Aniocha and they don't care much about "Igbo" asides language and relate much more with Ijaw and Urhobo on grounds of "one South South" and would simply tell u "I am delta" as if delta is an ethnic group...this is a reality I have seen..unlike ur group of noise makers that rely on internet coaching


Wat bleeping traditional institution? Pls name the fulanis that are monarchs in Kwara, let's see how much u can get from google or ask ur noise maker group

I don't care about anioma being in Biafra or not...only biafrans should care at this moment so I feel ur hurt

BuddahMonk:
yolobas dont build bungalow because they have space, they build because the materials in their building construction cant erect high rise bulding, have you seen any high rise building built of mud and red earth, the reason while yolobas squat in face me i face you its because they lack building intelligence, your telling me yolobas build houses because they have spaces but its only in yolobaland that you see 500 people cramped in one compound with 2 toilets and 2 bathrooms.

on population control, Igbo have gone far with population control more than yolobas, polygamy is no longer common in igboland but its still trending in yolobaland, giving birth out of wedlock is a culture in yolobaland which help in the production of unwanted babies that end up becoming nuisance in the cities, marriage in yolobaland is as cheap as ground while their women are as lose as faulty public taps urinating children anyhow, so at 27 years a yoloba youth must have divorced 3 wives that cost him nothing to married them while giving birth to children with reckless abandone.
An Igboman may like marry at 35 or 37 with a steady source of income to take care of his family but a yoloba can marry at 21 without any job at hand or any in the horizon but will be giving birth to children without planning for their future beforehand

East is embracing modern family planning and governments in east are sounding it like a warning to everybody

smh. Lies and slander From top to bottom
Why can't u let go of ur hatred for Yoruba?

cheruv:
as a yoloba..you still exposed your hatred for the great Igbo nation. we Igbos are definitely taking Anioma, including igbanke that lies in Edo state.
we don't need ijaws,nor Mmoño or all the other nations you mentioned up there. we are only content with Igbo and Igboid groups.. and no nation, including the ofe'mmanu people can interfere with our business
if your eyes can be on kwara which the Fulani seized from you guys then you should expect more from us as regards Anioma that provided most of our officers during the Biafran war of independence

This is why I don't like having discussions on Geography and history with Igbos. only few of u are intelligent enough to grasp the situation of kwara state which fulani are a terrible minority quite insignificant if u ask me, nobody can even properly identify a fulani cus they are mixed or yorubanised already

As for ur confidence on anioma, let's wait and see. Nobody will decide for them after all

SirShymexx:
Lol. Cool story, bruh.

You lot are slowly but surely turning to Igbos with hyperbole lol.

I heard Republic du Benin also took permission from ya king (according to him lol) before changing the name from Dahomey to Benin - and Bini folks also own Olokun (despite being landlocked); started terracotta; and the Bini empire extended all the way to Ghana lol. Ogisiso, the great gods of the sky - we hail thee looool.

Oh the lies u get from edoworld and many edo websites

bigfrancis21:
Yes, some Igbo people did refer to themselves Igbo, and that is how the identity of Igbo slaves taken to the Americas long before Nigeria's colonization was recorded. Town names in Igboland bearing 'Igbo' i.e. Igborere, Igbo-Ukwu, Umuigbo etc all attest to this fact. Till today, many Igbo families bear surnames with 'Igbo' attached to them i.e. Igbokwe, Igboamaeze, etc.

These Towns u mentioned have little to do with the western Igbos that use Oyibo "onye ibo" like u say
They didn't refer themselves as Igbo

Have u ever considered that since mostly Igbos under Bini use Oyibo then it must have been a result of Bini influence

safarigirl:
stop trying to make silly claims

Yoruba people call it oyinbo. The rest of us who far outnumber south west call it oyibo. They both mean the same thing. Everyone but Yorubas know that.


Now stop quoting me and use google, sheesh!

I have seen claims by Urhobo saying "Oyibo" is from them and that's the only word used to refer to light skinned or Europeans
Unlike Igbos that have Beeke and Onye Ocha still very much used as always

According to ur wiki link, Oyibo in ijaw means Man nt light skin

Aigbofa:

Did ibos even call themselves ibo or Igbo before the white man? Why would ibos call the white man onye ibo which translates to ibo man in their own language?
"Oyinbo" was most likely introduced to the ibos through the missionaries who were already being called oyinbo inYorubaland.

Lmao bigfrancis pls help us answer this

Will a cat call a dog "cat"?

safarigirl:
use google. Wikipedia has an explanation just for you

Why is wikipedia ur source of African knowledge? It's a very bad choice

Scholes007:
No it is not , it's among the mmuo ojo (evil spirits) that are believed to cause havoc on earth .Ekwensu is just god of tricks and feeds on evil deeds... so there is nothing Christian about it...

you must admit that christianity has destroyed the system of the Igbos greatly, ekwensu a once highly respected deity is now hailed undue insults

Vainglory:
The Igbo understanding of the relationship between God (Chukwu) and Satan (Ekwensu) appeals to me better than the Christian version. From the writeup I see that the Igbos take Ekwensu to be serving the purposes of Chukwu and is therefore subservient to Him. This is clearly contradicted to the Christian view of Satan who is always at war with God, and winning most of the time. This view has made God not omnipotent but most of the time helplessly unable to help while his arch enemy, the Satan, wrecks havoc everywhere.

Truly Christians don't see how they insult the creator with this bullcrap about satan

In African beliefs, the creator cannot have a rival or enemy. It's omnipotent, all knowing and self existent Infact it's existence itself...like the OP stated space itself is constitutes the creator

ezeagu:
"Nsibidi is an ancient system of graphic communication indigenous to the Ejagham peoples of southeastern Nigeria and southwestern Cameroon in the Cross River region. It is also used by neighboring Ibibio, Efik and Igbo peoples. Aesthetically compelling and encoded, nsibidi does not correspond to any one spoken language. It is an ideographic script whose symbols refer to abstract concepts, actions or things and whose use facilitates communication among peoples speaking different languages."

http://africa.si.edu/exhibits/inscribing/nsibidi.html

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Were u writing this on paper? read wat whitecat1 posted carefully

mezebel:
Ekwensu go behind me....
Chukwu all the way.

You do realize certain people pray for Ekwensu's blessings

Get a change...stop listening to ur dumb pastors who are only after ur money
Embrace your Igboness in full...nt jst by claiming Igbo but living Igbo

mumumugu:
someone asked , did Jesus read the bible?

Isnt it possible for me to like manchester united as a club yet hate the coach?

Similarly, i can like ancellotti yet hate realmadrid.

Since the club and the coach were not formed the same day.

Jesus existed first before the bible

i am a christian-i read only matthew,mark,luke and john because they talk on the lives of jesus.

Deutronomy focuses on law of the isrealites. I am a nigerian and am bound by the constitution of nigeria.

Paul letters were his own personal intepretation of what he he heard the disciple preach.
Everyone is entitled to his opinion

Ok cool. But jst as u say the Bible is a mere piece of paper coated with ink you should know that Jesus was an ordinary man

Why not dump foreign religion and the worship of dead Jews and embrace Africanism? Embrace ur identity, embrace ur blood, embrace ur soul.
Your ancestors love you

ndcide:
Those who insult GEJ for being prayed for should say the same things the said about GEJ to osinbajo

You think they would be sincere enough? Apc has dulled their brains

This is what christianity has done to us Africans

Before this evil religion who thought of rape? I don't even know any African word for rape to show that it's not part of us

seunmsg:
Osinbajo is a well known pastor so nothing new here. Pastors pray for each other daily. We can't compare him to our desperate president that goes about kneeling to everybody simply because of election.

Adeboye the mighty daddy GO is now "everybody"

It's Osinbajo that is desperate for VP sit here kneeling for every tom dick&Harry bishop/pastor like himself
Why can't he pray and his God answer him? Dumb lying politician claiming pastor

BuddahMonk:
Biafra will not include minority ethnic groups like Ijaws, the Niger Delta minority ethnic groups will likely form their own country or those that which to join Biafra will be welcomed, Biafraland will start from Igbanke in Edo State to all the entire communities in Benue State down to Akwa Ibom, CR and Rivers State.

If we should control our population by making a law that nobody should give birth to more that 2kids we will get things right immediately.

Middle Beltans will never allow to be submerged in the Arewa Republic and Kwara State is going to the Fulanis so Yolobass have already consider that area lost.

The may likely be more than 5 countries when Nigeria crumbles.

Brother don't put hope on Anioma, especially Ika Towns cus Anioma are even more weary of Igbo association than Ikweere
Tivs of Benue will never follow Igbos, and Idoma will prefer to stick close to Igala away from Igbos whom will turn them into minorities that have no say against over 25million Igbos
Efik/Ibibio are happy in SS with Ijaw and Edo perfect trio after all many towns known as ijaw today are of efik/ibibio origins

you went really dumb with ur contradictions. Kwara is in the middle belt and you jst said middle belt will never allow to be submerged with Arewa so review ur comment

Nupe, Bariba and Yoruba make up Kwara with the Yoruba ruling the state in terms of politics and language. All Igbomina Towns + Ilorin are leaving the North central to join SW same as Okun towns in Kogi state

The op is a madman.

First of all you say Yoruba don't care if you are Yoruba or not but want you to deliver
so you think not having Yoruba in top positions is the large factor here? How you contradict yourself

Secondly Tinubu and his apc thugs made up of mostly Yoruba saw to it that a Yoruba woman was denied house of rep speakership
If apc were a friend of Yoruba, their would bring a Yoruba as presidential candidate not a gambari illiterate, taking into consideration that the party is filled with able Yoruba people...only that they let themselves lose their minds for Tinubu


Buhari is a No! An enemy to the Yoruba.

I have seen it and the best for Africa..not jst Nigerians is to destroy all colonial boarders created by Europeans in our land without our consent as if we are dogs .

Create new nations out of ethnic homogeneity, cultural, linguistic and historical ties hence Nigeria will not be divided into 3 but 5 or more

Yoruba in Benin and Nigeria create One Yoruba nation same for other ethnic groups like Hausa in Niger, Nigeria. Or Kanuri in Chad, Nigeria, Cameroon. Gbe language speakers in Togo, Ghana and Benin in One nation.

the next step would be to create a confederacy of West African states

Blacks must take their future in their hands and stop living as some selfish white men wanted u to live in the 20th century

Enough! It's over 100years we aren't getting anywhere with this lie of One Nigeria...anybody who doesn't tell u the truth hates you and hates your children

Nigeria must die

Andy some Christian morons will say animals don't have souls even when it's there in ur Bible...jst cus ur thieve pastor doesn't tell you that doesn't mean it's not so

While Tinubu is thinking of how to suck more money from LAGOS and his compulsion on Ambode the fart face
And Fashola looking to blame the president for his mistakes and incompetence


Jk is the people's choice...Eko o ni baje, ti apc ti baje

The Gods be praised

ladionline:
Lol. My hometown used to be access route to Europeans going to Ilaro and Abeokuta. Where the Europeans usually stayed came to be known as Oke Oyinbo to this day. @bigfrancis, google my town name o. I dont want to miss mentioning in the 'Oyinbo gazette' you are working on.

I totally forgot about Oke Oyinbo.
But I thought you are awori? are Ilaro, Oke Oyinbo not Egbado Towns?

I
Love
You

ladionline:
Ibo (people) is not Orisha of old. I compared 'bo' with 'sha'. I am implying that Osha is similar to Ocha as with Igbos (as in Onitsha) to speculate that 'Ibo' may have derive from bleach skin, (assuming that bo is alternative to sa), not Ibo being Orisa. Ibo simply mean 'where?' in Yoruba. Meanwhile, as to Afin, the Yoruba says 'aro-kese', 'abuke-Osin', 'aku-warapa', 'afin-Orisa', 'afinOjeyo'. 'afin-orisha' is custom made, they never mention Obatala, so you must be restricted to the given phrase. On Obatala, the Yoruba says Obatala Obataisha.

I take it you've never heard Afin omo Orisa Igbo wuji . Orisa igbo wuji is Obatala

bigfrancis21:
'Oyibo' town names in different Local Government Areas of Edo state:
http://localitypincode.com/ng/oyibo-camp-postal-code-okada-lga-edo
http://www.nigeriadirectory.com.ng/listings/oyibo-m-p-c-s-l-oredo-edo-state/

Sometimes, you need to stop talking ignorantly and learn to use google. Google is so easy to use.

ok fair enoug but these aren't town names by what I read there.. Oyibo camp and an organization named oyibo m p c s l aren't Towns
Have you actually heard "Oyibo" spoken by an Edo?

Google ehn? Is that where u get all ur education from?