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2prexios: @macof, it is impossible to use Christianity to validate Judaism for instance, likewise, you can't use Santeria's dinlogun [/i]or Erindinlogun to validate Ifa Oracular dicta.

Santeria is an apocrypha of Ifa, not Ifa as apocrypha of Santeria. Likewise, Christian doctrine derived from Judaism, and not Judaism deriving from Christianity.

We do not have to depend on the conclusion of Santeria [i]Dilogun to establish Yoruba history. There is a reason it is so called Syncretism, because it has incorporated foreign stories.

Meanwhile, you can hardly come about free flow of tradition from one Ifa verse to the other as you portrayed in your Ekundayo7 handle, in Yoruba Ifa verses, the stories used as checkered anecdotes are meant to be Awo, secrets.

My reason for mentioning santeria is because it's known that Olofin is the husband of Olokun but the santeros confuse Olofin with Olorun.
My post made this clear enough.

Ekundayo7 is not my handle

Fulaman198: Yah that's correct there are very light and dark Shuwa Arabs in Nigeria. Just like there are very light and dark Tuaregs.

These Tuaregs... It could be them I see around lokoja in kogi and obalende in Lagos.
What made them leave their homeland?
And how different are they from Berbers?

MrAnony1: Go and read up on the fallacy of arguing from silence i.e. basing your argument upon what has not been said.

Your argument is like saying that you need a tongue to speak implies you don't need vocal chords. It is just silly.

Maybe you need to unfollow the thread or just edit ur silly posts.

Ekiti, the land of hills

Ekiti from Ile-Okiti "home of hills" is a rugged and upland rocky area with most of it's rocks overlayed on each other.

Language
The Ekiti language is a unique Yoruboid language, grouped as Central Yoruba along with Igbomina, Okun, Ijesa, Ife and Ijebu
The Ekiti language however has it's own variant dialects as Moba speaks a dialect similar to Igbomina, Omuo speak that similar to Ijumu Okun, while Efon is similar to Ijesa.
Despite this the Ekiti people understand each other very well

Oriki of Ekiti Towns
AAYE EKITI: Omo eleku lele lele ona
Aaye,Eku Senu Omode Aaye o mu kete ö
ra gburin.
ADO EKITI: Omo Ado Oora Amukara
sabe ewuje, Ikara se meji i temi lukoko,
Ado mei yunle oni kobe osilo monu
AGBADO EKITI: omo owa omo ekun
omo alagbado orara, aimona gbe sinu
agbado
AISEGBA EKITI: aisegba aguda omo
apalufin omo olulu orokeiroloru lasura
omo odoja supon-na lasura
ARA EKITI: Omo alara tin dara,ara la o
mada ,awa o ni daran
ARAMOKO EKITI: omo alaramoko
l'ejidogbon agogo ude; alara m'oi pori
isa okan i ki mi ' a roko aga o, ara ara
pelu ife' jumo k'agbara ga k'ara ye wa'
k'ara san wa; Ara ulu ayo
ARAROMI-UGBESHI EKITI: omo elesi adu
ile adu oko
ARE EKITI: Omo oyi ajawa nfe
murinmurin lule
AWO EKITI: omo alagodo abeni
memu,omo oloke ijisun eru ko yu.omo
eguru sotita ona oke ijisun.
AYEDE EKITI: Ayede geri attah, osoko
ekiti soko akoko, o sakoko rigborigbo.
AYEDUN EKITI: Omo elesun a payiya
yeye
AYEGBAJU EKITI: Ayegbaju obalu odagun
lule odagun loko omo alale kemun tisan
bomi
AYEGUNLE EKITI: Omo amoro epa reni,
Omo amuda sile mogun erun pani
AYETORO EKITI: Elo ajana omo agbo o
yo erun odi, Omo owa omo ekun, edu
iju omo akin,omo ofabere gunyan ki idi
gberigbe ona ma mo. Omo oluku k'aso
ibo,omo abadin hanran hanran.
EFON-ALAYE EKITI: omo oloke ko moke
igun,oke ko malaye i tile ogun,omo edu
ule haun efon kumoye, Omo Oke Wa
Foona Oke Sora Dotaa,Eji gberekede,Eji
gbimorodun
EJIYAN EKITI - Omo Elerii njiyan kan
da’de, akun weji weji, Omo alaye more
Oko ido ale iye, Omo Elegigun iwaju ji’
tehin nrina, Omo Elegigun le ju ade kan
soso, Omo adegigun sori-eko weji weji
EMURE EKITI: Omo Elemure aoro ora,
elemure i japari usu, e i jemulolo udi re,
aarin usu ni kan mu a kelemure mi aje,
Emi lomo eso orita egiri oke, Emure
ijaloke afisu foloore
EPE EKITI: Epemuke moale omo elepe
lologun igi lasan lara oko unbo
ERINJIYAN EKITI : omo oloja odo omo
oloja odo aboyesun, omo erin adigunbo
ERINMOPE EKITI: Omo eridu'ora
omokuku be korantan i han omo han ke
bi han be i dun han Eeemope Omo
Eridu 'ora
ERIO EKITI: Èdú Èrìò ọmọ agbe mùsúù
kẹlẹ, ọmọ ọtayeye lugbọn-ọn mibọbọ
joye, ibọbọ jolodeode, ibọbọ jọta epo,
ọmọ oloke meji takọ tabo, ajoji baa i
gori olodeode, ọta epo larosi de a.
ESUN EKITI : omo elesun oyinbo omo
elesun orinjeyeweere
ESURE EKITI: Omo Elesure okese.
EWU EKITI: Omo Ewu Ogidi uda, omo
amudasile mogun enu pani
EYIO EKITI: omo a muda sile kogun eni
pani
IDO EKITI: omo udo oganganmodu ama
gbado ekuru resin, iha lomo alagbado
ayaiya tan aiha a ya, aire a ya arimona
gbe sinu agbado
IDO-ILE EKITI: ile Omo Ajinare mope
oye, omo owa omo ekun, omo
ajisunhan,omo ajire ni, omo amojo
gbogbo dara bi egbin,omo alagogo ajilu
gbingbin ni sosi,omo onibata kero
kalokabo lona adura omo oni bata
kerokalo-kabo lugbi mo rusimi
onigbagbo.
IFAKI EKITI: Ifaki orinkinran, omo atijo
ogun lele boorun maakin. Esi keejogun
ijale udo ona ifaki lii ha. Omo okorobo
lila isuko firi ona eyika more.
IGBARA-ODO EKITI: Omo eleye i se
weyeweye ati dori ogun
IGBEMO EKITI: omo elefo sigbemo oba
yii efo san bi eni rele efo romi oko ra
lona igbemo
IGBOLE EKITI: omo olurara agbagba tile
oyi biribiri goke lagbe igbole odo
IGEDE EKITI - omo elemi nigede
amadiye sereke, elemi igede niwi ki mi
gbadiye sin, mowi me i sinye omi, oni
laso mo mu kigede soro, agboku
mariwo na mi selewo yuyu
IGOGO EKITI: igogo obiri; omo awoko
merin tia gbe foruru obe je egberin
okele, ekiri oke omo amain urukan
jaraba iyan igogo sebora onielaya edese
IJAN EKITI: Omo ijanmodu alagada
ogun, omi ki ijan i mu ni ijan we esi;
omo elega arisagba.eru ko sagba nibe
arija ayaba,ari sagba arija olori
IJELU EKITI: Ijelu mojo omo olodi
atalemo, omo alayuwa ajoji ko wese,
ajoji koba wese adoni ebo lulera lono ije
IJERO EKITI: omo owa Omo ekun, omo
ejio omo oriomu,omo olose meji
takotabo,omo amomohoko toutobo udi
re
IJESA-ISU EKITI: omo ijesamodu,omo
eleni ewele,omo ameo usu dahun
se,omo a woro labe usu yaa gbe lolo
odikeji,omo ikaka i so'su diro diro loke
amu,omo a muda sile mogun erun
pani.omo agbagba roke orire yaa lu,
omo ehon kitipa ona 'jesa kii'jesa moja
kii'jesa modeyo, laka ule ra lona
IJURIN EKITI: Ijurin moje! Omo alaran
ojiji, omo amuda sile mogun enu pani,
akuku beni lori ya jogun enu lule ijurin
omo agbara sa yaya lori eguru.
IKERE EKITI: omo oloke meji takotabo,
omo aba gbami eye gbami, agbagba
fiafia alapa faari, omo oju kee boju leru
omo eleo jeun ree omo ekun omo
erukuluji, omo ukere kete oniyan ana
olosunta orun ukere orole baba oke.
IKOGOSI EKITI: omo olomi meji,
gbigbona ati titu.. nibi o tipade
IKOLE EKITI: Elekole o balaya aso, Ikole
to tala bose, e i sepe hon run ma so se,
eshi idale ti a ni, Ikole lomo olose meji
gbarimi rimi kan le. Ikole run ma aso se
kin tala mo sha; atala bose, keru ba
adiye funfun.
IKORO EKITI; Omo eso obe so ikoro
mudapariko omo eruku yoyo onah obe
yajogun enun lobe ooooo, ireke aragan
idun bi ogan iyo, ireke aragan idun bi
oyinmomo.
IKUN EKITI: Emi lomo ikun amure,omo
elero mumu ona oja,omo abeja i se
wotowoto enu asoro
ILAWE EKITI: omo alawe ko tori wiwe ko
makuro soja,ko wi kun naja-naja kun
bomi a lura lona Awe
ILOGBO EKITI: ilogbo okere,abewe usu
gbagangbagan
ILORO EKITI: Omo oloro erijugbin Ari
jugbin ranje mu karahun muni, omo
olotorojo nse ori opalele
ILUKUNO EKITI: ilukuno ose omo a min
ranyin bi ogo iyo
ILUPEJU EKITI: Ulupeju la me a, Omo
Eso ooruta merun wese,
Omo Oke lila ti moto layaa, omo egiri
oke arogunse bi ega
IPAO EKITI: ipao ileji ogbe omo amugbo
sodi orogba omo onile imole ajeji kowo
ajeji toba fipawobe laimepo laimuyo
ammebose
IPOLE ILORO EKITI: ipole omo asewi
leremeta kale to le
IPOTI EKITI: upoti ala, omo amewe eni
j'iyan, awa lomo eleni ewele,omo
amekuru jeko.
IRE EKITI: iremogun omo awuse, omo
owu ti n wuko gbinrin-gbinrin lagbede.
N ba tete waye omo enimeta ni n ba
maa se, n ba jomo, , n ba jomo alakara
maa ma roun fi wan enun, n tun jomo
alagbede ma finanloju-finanle masagban
isale woriwori
IRO EKITI: Uro adidi,omo amugbayeo
IROPORA EKITI: iropora ajija emure ule
ewa ubi kan sewa iyun
ISAN EKITI: Isan moge, omo asote
monru, oloro agogo, omo amuda sile
mogun erun pani.omo owa omo ekun
omo olodi, odi re atile mo,ooni ke mo
rin un modi mo omo elepa omo awo
ISAOYE EKITI: Isaoye akoko alakoko
ororo giro omo amugba buwo
ISE -EKITI- Omo Akin je'Efon. Omo a
gbure Agudugbu s'oju odi k'ari j'Efon
Use ya yan. Ugbo kan mo'sii si kan si
d'Use, a mo foo oun le iijugbo Aje a
l'Use. Adabalukosi lo ba loriigi l'oja Odo,
kan p'ugba Ode jo. Oni mo tita libe, o ta
ogun ifon. A ri mo tita libe, o t'oji akofa.
Ugbogbo kukuruku la gbogi l'oja odo,
k'Adabalukosi fo lo, Emi omo ogidan,o
gun mo gara, Omo at'eran mo ta'ho.
ISINBODE EKITI: isin obi omo olobedu
woroworo,obe kan se ke kute ule jerun
omo oni simi
ITAJI EKITI: omo Itaji òpó kìtìpà léyìn
Èkìtì, mii k'opo ma ja kí Ekiti mó dêyô,
Èwí í bèmí ùdì, Ônítâjî í bèmí èsûn'sû
ôkô, Èwí mí yoo jùdì, Ônítâjî mí yoo mó
ó jóná, un i kôsé ôlójà méjì màá bá tùbá
mi Ônítâjî â lô
ITAPA EKITI: Eso oruta ejiri oke,omo
onimeya ule meya oko,omo asibeota
yayinyo
IWOROKO EKITI: Ihoroko de ile ouro ile
ouro omolore la me ia ogun i pa
ihoroko omo aroloyen
IYE EKITI: Omo alagere kijipa suko firi
ona, omo oloke meji tako tabo
IYEMERO EKITI: OMO ni sedo ewa,omo
ori mogun je,awa lomo awo foo sise..ofi
omo foko to n ti kini abere, Omo
onihun didun lodo di.
IYIN EKITI: Awa lomo eso orita Egirioke.
Uyin logun Uyin lota. Ulu kan rije rimu
tan ke i deni lora; Omo alaede
KOTA EKITI: Omo Elekota ogunroyin
soye, agun soye bi oyinbo. Omo oriire
d'ade.
ODOOWA EKITI: omo eleni ewele,omo
oke lila ti moto laya, olegin lodoyin
ololua lode udogun. omo abu oba ma
se, omo ala ideu,omo egin,omo epa,
omo otokorojo sori opa lelele
OGOTUN EKITI: omo ologotun ojorube,
omo eleni ateeka,omo eleni ewele,omo
amuru ekun sere nibuje,Eja gbogbo
dade,towena dade akun.
OKE-AYEDUN EKITI: omo adagbalu, omo
adelila pa
OKE-ORO EKITI: omo alaure ladao para
seji,omo alaure san yaya gunta. Omo
amekikun modi,omo alaure la Okeoro
para seji aka kan tolokore,okan re ti
apetu
OKEMESI EKITI: omo oloja oke ni di
ogun,omo fabunmi orara lada. omo
afaganja omo arogun yo. omo oke
agbonna, omo oke ludi ogun atiri ogun
OMU EKITI: Omo olomu aperan omo
oloro,Agogo omo amuda sile mogun
erun pani akuku beni lori san jogun
erun lo lona omu
OMUO EKITI: Omo eleye meta oro
kashakasha, iko ina, iko oorun, iko koku
osupa a tani yayaya, Omo olomuo
kerejekereje omuo ore,
OMUOOKE EKITI: Omo Olomi Ajire,omo
alaroju ja ka, omo gbo gbo bi oro, omo
o ba ma aja j

dytbabe: Macof?
U?
Ekiti?
My crush?

*runs as fast as I cld*
I go cash ya lara

dytbabe: Macof
Fimile oooo
*still running*

Yes am Ekiti, proud omo udo oganganmodu running to ever? when u tired you would return here, where u belong.
We don't break hearts

Justicemy: Ekiti the hausa version of yoruba land, tribal marks evrywer, always susceptible to war and aggression, pls let nobody ever compare ekiti with ondo state oo, we re 2 diff people

Wtf! Ekiti tribal marks are so small on the cheeks it even makes the ladies look cute

dytbabe: Everyone condemns cheating, its no particular tribe, bt una no dey ever gree kan kan
I no get strength for u tonight oo
Cos I know say u no gree
Me I gree if u no gree me

You know we no dey gree so it's good as you gree first

lepasharon: I am from Itapa .

I never knew you are Ekiti

MabraO: I no dey vex oh. Just speaking my mind
Dem sabi book no doubt
But dem no use their knowledge develop d state
Only Ado and ikere is well known others na zero

Blame it on the criminals running the government.
Ekiti has everything to build on, our Obas/Owas also share much of the blame

rodeo0070: I am a proud son of the soil. BTW, what is Ekiti without pounded Yam?

True! Iyan ni oba onje

dytbabe: When I hear ekiti/ondo, I pick race
Infact faster than usain
I have suffered love brk in the hands of these men
U go fear na
Them agidi inu and ita fit kee sombori

love break ke? Ah!

dytbabe: I forgot to add u ppl are so insultive

it's true, but we are also very respectful.
You don't tell us how to treat an elder

Ekiti people hate provocative

wabuk: Long life IDO -Ekiti
Long life ekiti state
Long life nigeria

Omo alagbado. Awa ara Udo

LogoDWhiz: Hin okun o ekiti kete.

Proudly ekiti boy.

@op. Please it's Oore now Owore.
Thanks.

Nice writeup btw

My apologies

OnyeEgo1: i weep for you

Don't weep for me, weep for yourself, you need it more.

jantavanta: Fire, Thunder, Lightning with Sango? Please can we specifically attribute Fire to Aganju, rather than to Sango? I thought Sango was limited to Thunder & Lightning.

You see lightning is Mona-mona/mana-mana,in Yoruba..relating to sparks of light or fire.
Sango's parents Aganju and Obatala represent the chaotic heat(best example being fire) and the calm light respectively.
Also tress struck by lightning catch fire
But today I think Aganju cults have been absorbed into sango's. So priests are usually devoted and initiated to both
That's why fire is present in sango's shrines

femmefatale: Exactly, but he doesn't wanna let go yet he's nt ready 2 commit. He begs each time I say no more.

madam pls be smart with your relationship and future. You both need to have understood eachother from the beginning.

To me, a relationship is already a commitment only that it is meant to evolve into something bigger, when you've spent enough time (not too much time) together you should know if you continue or you end it..

Proverbalizer: It is difficult to find a lot of information about Aganju. I am also interested in learning more.

I just watched this Yoruba Movie that I believe features Aganju, although the subtitles say 'Ganju' , but it sounds like they are saying/singing 'Aganju' to me. One thing they keep saying it that it is a VERY powerful deity, and also that it can catch thieves. Of course I would trust the insight from real babalawos, Iyalorisa / babalorisa more than a Nollywood script.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K34xkHO8XWM

Yh when it comes to movies and all this media thing one must be careful as they mislead alot

Knowledge of Aganju just seems to be hidden

OnyeEgo1: ah! Hmmmm.... U dare call Jesus a dead man... Are u saved?

Yh am saved, I was saved the day I realized Jesus is just a dead man

OnyeEgo1: so, are u saved? Do u believe in the gospel of our lord Jesus how that he died for u?

Funny how Africans ask this question as the Jews just watch and laugh at their gullibility

I think this thread is for you

OnyeEgo1: i am!

So WTF is so important about a dead Jew?? Wat makes u think a dead man is more "son of God" than you??

Collynzo16: Oduduwa was actually kicked out from heaven because of his treacherous ways.
Unfortunately his descendants have followed his footsteps.

Maybe Oduduwa was trying to capture Eri the devil aka ancestor of the igbos

shdemidemi: reading in context, do you actually think Jesus was telling the people to raise jihad against their relatives?

Reading simple words.
And look at nations today, how christianity has riped families apart

mrceo63: u vnt answered my question... it al around u bt u denial it...

And wat is ur question?

EMILO2STAY: are u mad!, i should be asking u that . And yes evolutionist believe a big bang occured out of no where and formed the galaxy , was any evolutionist there when it occured? U guys propose a theory and believe in it with no proof is'nt that faith?, I have ask u to show me one primate that has evolved into human but u have not... Give an evidence of a simple life form that has evolved into a complex one. show me proof of amoeba that has evolved into a rat or a goat; if u cant pls shut up and go to sleep.

you know what forget this...I have tried with you.
Go read a book

donroxy: My problem with you as always been your limited brain and shortsightedness and that is why I always recommend mental boost for you ....... Though I'm not surprised, because you will always have myopic understanding of what you don't have interest !

1. The meaning of the word christian is adherent of christ and whomsoever emulates christ is a Christian ..... , what does christ brought forth ? Christ didn't come to introduce new doctrines but to fulfill the old doctrines Mathew 5:17


2. Christianity worship a known deity that is beyond the comprehension of your limited brain , the reason why you find it difficult to belief...... I know people like you were the shallow ones in the olden days who would never believe Aeroplane can fly in the air !! but verily , your doubt will soon be cleared and it will be too late to avoid hell fire ..... Na dat time ya head go correct , shey u dey form tout and thug for GOD ba


2. Christianity is still based on the tenets of Mosaic laws since Jesus never condemn those laws but only fulfil(complete) them !!

3. The book of rules , which rules, the new testament abi, which was compiled by disciples many years after Jesus died ! What were the tenet of Religion brought forth by Jesus ?

4. Don't worry, verily you will be sure wether there are consequences or not .... Shebi you sha believe in Esu and you know their is consequence for commiting atrocities against ESU ...... Verily you shall know , die first and make GOD roast that little mind of yours for hell and forever !!


5. The fact that faith is beyond your realm of reasoning is why you tagged it blind , I pardoned your Ignorant, Knowledge that is beyond one's level can be tagged non-existence by foolishman !! .... Some foolishdudes like you never believe a man could land in the moon !!


6. Christianity is a way of life of Jesus and it is lesser in tenet,dogmas and doctrine than Religion !!

all so hilarious
I can't even begin to respond to all these nonsense.

Just know I was once like u, there's nothing you can say about christianity that I don't already know

Christianity is a religion!

OnyeEgo1: yea a cult that demonstrates Gods perfect love for u tru his son Jesus christ

Aren't u a son of God?

Amhappy: Its a way of life.

RuudNisterooy: Forget all these epistles! Christianity is simply a way of life.

Culture is a way of life.

Is christianity a culture? aren't you forced to live by the Bible rules?? a way of life is supposed to be inherit in you. your default behaviour

donroxy: Christainity is simply a way of life , it is a simple module of behaviour of Jesus Christ and whomsoever emulate such behaviour of Jesus is a CHRISTIAN (which anybody in whatever religion can do as far as it is in a bid to worship, praise and fulfil the wishes of ONE GOD-Elohim, Allah,Yahweh,Chukwu,Eledumare,Ubangiji etc) !!!

Judahism is a religion guided by Torah as divinely received by moses (ASW)......

Islam is a religion guided by Qur'an as divinely received by Mohammed (SAW) ....

Christainity is simply a standard of behaviour(Love your neighbour as yourself) and not based on any LAW, it is stipulated according to the Gospel of Jesus which were latter compiled by the disciples to form BIBLE after jesus died


I see myself as a Christain too , take it or leave it , slap me the right cheek and I'm gonna turn you the left one but draw sword to me , I'm gonna defend myself by drawing sword to you too !!!

Nawa o.
You just calling christianity by whatever term you feel comfortable without knowing the meaning of the words u say.

does christianity not worship an unknown deity?
Does christianity not have dogmas?
Does it not have a holy book of rules that you must not break or suffer the consequences? Consequences that we cannot be sure exist
Does christianity not work on blind faith?


Christianity is nothing more than a religion

PastorKun: The difference between past violence in Christianity and violence as a part of the Islamic religion till date is that in Christianity violence can never be justified by the teachings or way of life of the founder of christianity(Jesus) where as in Islam the founder(mohammed) not only gave lots of violent instructions, he was a man of war and he personally led several battles. This is the example his followers are following today.

Words of Jesus ..."do not think I came for peace, I came to bring violence, and cause a father against son, mother against daughter, families against each other"

PastorKun: Christianity is not based on the whole bible but on the teachings of Christ and the apostles which are found mainly in the new testament. There are clear instructions in the new testament that the old laws have been done away with. Even the ten commandments was 'reduced' or summarised to two laws which is to Love God and to Love our fellow man.

Answer this simple question.

Do you preach the words from the old testament in your church?