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Culture › Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by macof(m): 7:42pm On Sep 13, 2014
igbodefender: Ever heard of Princess Moremi and the Igbo aborigins of Ife? According to the history, Moremi and other Yorubas displaced the former Igbo aborigins of Ile Ife. Don't you think that if there were once indigenous Igbos in Ife, that there would be some simmilar Igbo-Yoruba words today as a result of their cultural interaction?
This kind of post is very shameful. I know many Igbo who are smart and know even if a little of their history but with people like u jeez .. Smh

if I was Igbo I would be ashamed to be associated with ur igbodefender history bastardising
Culture › Re: Ekiti People by macof(op): 12:46pm On Sep 13, 2014
ADO-EKITI

Capital city and headquarters of Ekiti, The population in 2004 was 446,749.
Ado Ekiti City has a State owned University - the University of Ado Ekiti now Ekiti State University, Ado-Ekiti, a privately owned University - the Afe Babalola University, Ado-Ekiti, a Polytechnic - the Federal Polytechnic, Ado Ekiti, two local television and radio stations, - NTA Ado Ekiti, Ekiti State Television (BSES), Radio Ekiti, Progress FM Ado Ekiti. Various commercial enterprises operate in Ado Ekiti. The city is the trade centre for a farming region where yams, cassava, grain, and tobacco are grown. Cotton is also grown for weaving.
Where Ado-Ekiti is situated is a land that has been continuously inhabited/occupied by human communities from time immemorial. Available research shows that human societies of unknown antiquity occupied this neighbourhood about 11,000 years ago. These ancient inhabitants were probably the same or progenitors/ancestors of Igbon near Ogotun, Erijiyan, Ijero, Ulesun and Asin (near Ikole) who were probably autochthones because available traditions shows that they had lived in and near their abodes from time immemorial. As a matter of fact, no one knows where, if any, they came from and for how long they had lived in those ancient sites. Ulesun appears the best-known apparently on account of its size, the number of its subordinate communities especially Aso, Ulero, Isinla, Ilamoji, Ukere and Agbaun (near Igbemo), its well-organized traditional religion including its festivals etc. and its location at the heartland of Ekitiland. These ancient people were the ancestors of Ekiti, they played hosts in the 7th and 8th centuries, about 1,200 years ago, to waves of immigrants from the basins of the rivers Niger and Benue; these settled among the ancient Ekiti, and were fewer in number and so, the hosts culturally absorbed them.

In the late 13th/early 14th century,a new wave of immigrant groups penetrated this homeland; their leader as Ewi nicknamed Awamaro, son of Biritiokun, from the House of Oduduwa, as he wandered the forests through Bini as part of the 13th century Ile-Ife exodus of princes. Ulesun people welcomed them warmly and neighbouring committees came together to assist their settlement (built homesteads for them) at Oke-Ibon in Odo Ijigbo. Eventually, Ewi and his people overthrew the existing political arrangements, conquered Ulesun community, displaced its ruler Elesun and established a new town, Awamaro named Ado, meaning 'here we encamp'. Ewi Awamaro and his successors conquered villages and cottage in the neighbourhood, replaced their rulers with their own loyalists, stalwarts and scions of the royal family. The important citizens of these conquered communities were relocated in Ado. Ewi supplanted Elesun as sovereign ruler of the aboriginal and settler population, many of Elesun's Chiefs were confirmed in their offices but they swore oaths of allegiance to the Ewi. Many of the succeeding Ewi expanded the kingdom by force of arms, annexed territories and gave these territories to scions of the royal families, these assumed titles which became hereditary. The expansion and growth of Ado-Ekiti and the kingdom of Ado lasted over 400 years. In the course of this expansion, Ado became associated with certain traits. Citizens of the kingdom in general and those of the mother town, Ado-Ekiti in particular were reputed for great attention to cleanliness. A popular lyrical description of Ado citizenry depicts:
Ira Ule Ado m'etipise fifin seree (Ado citizens with their usually clean heels). Ado people were, by local standard, tough and brave warriors. Traditions preserve numerous brave citizens of each Ado community, the best known were Ogbigbonihanran of Idolofin quarters, Ogunmonakan of Okelaja, Fasawo, a.k.a. Aduloju of Udemo quarters, and Eleyinmi Orogirigbona of Okeyinmi quarters - all of Ado-Ekiti and Ogunbulu, a.k.a. Ala l'oju Osoru of Aisegba. The exploits of Ado tough in many parts of Ekiti formed the basis of the popular orature: Ikara s'eji s'inu agbagba t'emi ukoko (Of two balls of cake in the frying-pan, he insists his share is one)
Oral traditions are replete with fond references to Ewi's relationship with some other Ekiti traditional rulers. Ewi's antecedents are depicted as: Elempe Ekiti (mightiest man in Ekiti) On k'emu 'kan o mu meji Oloju k'enu 'kan gba kete re (He is entitled to one, he took two he has a disposition to take everything) Ewi i pe mi udiroko Onitaji i pe mi esunsu...... (Ewi invites me for his udiroko festival Onitaji invites me for his esunsu festival)
Ado-Ekiti is situated at the heartland of Ekiti and is thus less exposed to cross-border attacks or non-Ekiti influences. Consequently, over many centuries, waves of immigrant groups seeking haven settled in Ado-Ekiti and several other Ado communities. Many of these immigrants were refugees, they left their old homelands in parts of Ekiti, Akoko, Owo etc where their leaders lost out in chieftaincy contests, They were settled in Ado communities where they increased the local population, and enriched the culture with their lineage names and festivals in similar circumstances, citizens of Ado communities left their fatherland and settled in a few places in the neighbourhood up to Ijesaland. Ibadan sacked many Ado communities in 1873 and made a huge haul of prisoners of war and other captives who eventually settled in Iwo, Ibadan and some Remo towns such as Iperu and Makun Sagamu. However, Ado communities especially the mother town offset part of their losses with a large number of slaves and prisoners of war from Owo, Ose and Akoko.


Ado-Ekiti is one of the towns of the northeastern territory of Yoruba land and passed through a succession of military, political and cultural changes from the time of Ewi Awamaro (1310 A.D) who migrated there to form what became Ado-Ekiti, some sources state that Ewi's father, Biritiokun was of the same mother as Oranmiyan, both settled at the outskirts of Bini before disputes among their people led them to separate and the Ewi sought a new home westward at Utamodi (Oke Papa). Ewi Biritiokun and his son reigned there. It was Ewi Awamaro who migrated to Ilesun (Present day Ado-Ekiti) after staying briefly at Udoani (Ido Ani) and Agbado during the long trek. When Ewi Awamaro left Agbado, the elders remained behind to rest and gave the settlement the name Agba Ado (Elders’ Camp) – Agbado-Ekiti as the town is known today. Awamaro’s spies encouraged him to attack Elesun with the support of Odolofin after he had settled down at Oke Ibon (now Odo Ijigbo) and with the conquest of Ulesun by Awamaro, the town of Ulesun changed its name to Ado or Ado-Ewi.
The Elesun (the King) who ruled over the town of Ulesun with its satellite towns i.e. Ukere (now Ikere), Isinla, Ulamoji, Agidimo, Ikewo existed in what is now known as Ado-Ekiti before the emergence of Ewi of Ado-Ekiti. The Elesun occupied the peak of a hierarchy where he had his subordinates as the Odolofin (Elesun second in command), Asao, Elegemo, Alamoji, Olisinla, Olulero, Olookori etc. Elesun was the head of the laity in the worship of Olota (god), the deity in charge of the security of Ulesun State. The Ulesun language was different from Yoruba (Ado-Ewi) language. Examples are Ideregbe (Ewure or Goat), Okeregba (Aja or Dog), Amomo (Alangba or Lizard), Usa (Ikoko or Pot), Ukere (Ago or Calabash Cup), Ogolomosi (Ibepe or Pawpaw), Oyeye (Epa or Groundnut). Some of the Elesun’s chiefs such as Odolofin and Asao were accepted into the Ewi’s system of chieftaincy after Awamaro’s conquest. The Elegemo retained his post as Chief Priest and custodian of Iwemo Ogun. Ewi’s Warrior chiefs who provided military security for palace inhabitants were the Akogun at Irona, Oloja Ese at Oke Ese, Eleyinmi at Okeyinmi and Egbedi at Orereowu. Ewi Awamaro subjugated Elesun’s neighbours and expanded his territory except Ukere (Ikere Ekiti) and his successors up to Yeyenirewu followed same steps that by 1550 A.D. Ado-Ewi had become a big power in the entire Ekiti country.
The Ewis that reigned at Ado from 1444 to 1552 were: Ewi Ata (1444–1471), Ewi Owakunrugbon (1471–1490), Ewi Owamuaran (1490–1511), Yeyenirewu - The regent (1511– 1552). Ewi’s military exploits during the period was to subjugate and annex his immediate territories extended to Ikere, Igbara Odo, Ogotun, Aramoko, Erio and Erijiyan among others. It was a long time systematic military campaign during the reigns of Ewi Obakunrin (1552–1574), Ewi Eleyo-Okun (1574–1599) and Ewi Afigbogbo Ara Soyi (1599-1630). During the reign of Ewi Gberubioya (1630-1696), Ado-Ewi was peaceful as war was abandoned in place of diplomacy and mutual relations strategy. Ewi Gberubioya divided the Ewi dynasty into three ruling houses of Owaroloye (Aroloye), Atewogboye and Arutawekun. Ewi’s sons that ruled in neighbouring areas during the reign of Gberubioya included Okunbusi who became Onigede, Adubienimu who became Alawo, the Onijan, Opoakin (of Iwere), Olu Akitipa (of Odo), Aramude, Olokun, Olurasa, Onikewo and Olotin. One of his sons, Amujoye founded Igbemo and took the title of Oba of Igbemo from its inception. Gberubioya linked the Ewi’s dynasty to both Ikole and Ijero because one of his wives who were betrothed to Elekole was surrendered to Ewi as a peace deal and her children for the Elekole, Ewi and Ajero who took her into custody after Ewi’s demise later ascended as Ewi, Elekole and Ajero respectively. Ido Faboro (Ido-Ekiti) took her current name from Ado as a result of settlement with Ewi to remain independent of Ado during Gberubioya’s reign. Other Ewis that reigned after Gberubioya were Ewi Idagunmodo (1696-1710), Ewi Okinbaloye Aritawekun (1710-1722), Ewi Amono Ola (1722-1762), Ewi Afunbiowo (1762-1781), Ewi Akulojuorun (1781-1808), Ewi Aroloye (1808-1836), Ewi Ali Atewogboye (1836-1885), Ewi Ajimudaoro Aladesanmi I (1886-1910), Ewi Adewumi Agunsoye (1910 - 1936), Ewi Daniel Anirare Aladesanmi II (1937 - 1983), HRM Ewi Samuel Adeyemi George-Adelabu I (1984 - 1988) and HRM Alayeluwa Ewi Rufus Adeyemo Adejugbe Aladesanmi III (the current Ewi of Ado-Ekiti).

At the height of Ado-Ekiti influence in Ekiti country in the 18th and 19th centuries, legend has it that Ado kingdom consisted of 150 (ewadojo) communities and that the metropolis of the kingdom was Ado-Ekiti Township where the Ewi as Sovereign superintended over the realm as the sovereign head. The Oluyin, the Alare, the Alaworoko, the Elesure, the Eleyio and the Onigbemo are very important rulers of subordinate towns within the immediate precinct of the Ewi’s municipality. Within the Ewi’s Kingdom, heads of subordinate towns often performed specific political and spiritual roles and responsibilities in the service of the Kingdom in order to retain and sustain their relationship with the powerful King while supporting the layers of interrelations among towns in the realm. Legend has it that it was a tradition in Ado-Ekiti for influential members of the royal household (Omo Oba or Omo Owa) to be sent to subordinate Ado-Ekiti community to found new dynasties on established settlements in buffer zones and borderland areas.
Rulers of subordinate towns like Iyin-Ekiti (Uyin Alelagba) and Are-Ekiti were brothers and relations of the Ewi who co-existed and led their respective townships as co-ordinate lesser cities of Ado-Ekiti. They ruled in those towns with a view to creating stability for the Ewi who was a ruler of higher importance in the main city, Ado-Ekiti, while his brothers are rulers over lesser Ado towns where they maintained required importance and role to preserve the Ewi’s realm and achieve an equation of substance and stability against Ewi’s potential regional neighbours. The existence of these chieftains help to preserve Ewi’s interest and to protect Ado-Ekiti from direct invasion by any ambitious adventurer since the chiefs represent Ewi’s interest in those subordinate and neighbouring towns, farm settlements, hamlets and subordinate towns. The headship of most of these towns was selected from the ruling lineage that was created by the senior chiefs, subject to the ratification of the Ewi of Ado-Ekiti.
J.O. Olubobokun in his works – Itan Iyin (1980) as corroborated by A.O. Oguntuyi (1986:9) asserted that Iyin is one of the subordinate towns of Ado-Ekiti founded by Oluyin Agbogbomaje, e.g. the sword bearer (Oluda) who accompanied Ewi Awamaro to settle in Ado before he was allocated land to the West of Ado town and settled in a place called Uro where he was later joined by people of Ibedoyin, Oketoro and Okelawe in forming a total of 16 quarters which later truncated into one town. The essence here is that Iyin people were part of Ado Kingdom that gained royal autonomy to co-exist as separate community under the realm of the Ewi without severing traditional ties and blood relations with Ewi and Ado people. The deep traditional relationship that existed between the Ewi of Ado-Ekiti, the Oluyin of Iyin-Ekiti and the Onigbemo of Igbemo-Ekiti for instance requiring those rulers of the subordinate towns around Ado-Ekiti to participate in specific rites at the death or installation of Ewi of Ado-Ekiti tends to highlight the role of covenant renewal in the community for the continuity of Ewi’s ‘imperial’ or hegemonic status and influence in the subordinate Towns.
Culture › Re: Ekiti People by macof(op): 11:34am On Sep 13, 2014
Ewi of Ado-Ekiti, Oba Rufus Adeyemo Adejugbe III

Celebrities › Re: Photos Of Ethiopian Girls Who Insert Plates In Lips To Be More Attractive by macof(m): 10:15pm On Sep 12, 2014
yuzed: So how does this make them more attractive ? huh
Beauty they say in the eyes of the beholder cheesy

I consider women with fake hair extensions to be ugly, natural hair is :*
while many think otherwise
Celebrities › Re: Photos Of Ethiopian Girls Who Insert Plates In Lips To Be More Attractive by macof(m): 10:12pm On Sep 12, 2014
The gods bless them with their culture.

I am proud to be Ekiti Yoruba, the Sura people should be proud of themselves too.

Respect people's culture and let them be.
Culture › Re: Igbos Were The Proto-Bantus -Igbodefender.com by macof(m): 9:59pm On Sep 12, 2014
Igbodefender stop this rubbish. You think u trying to uplift your ethnicity but you making it open for mockery.

all African groups are related, but our relationship ends somewhere...Igbo are Volta Niger, Bantu are Benue-Congo
the only known link of Igbo with Benue congo people are the Ibibio/ekoi/efik people
words sounding Bantu-like would be found in Igbo land of course, especially those close to the cross river people

All Africans are related regardless that languages can always been linked by small small words to push a silly propaganda.
"yini" "kini" "gini" = zulu/Yoruba/Igbo
Zulu/Yoruba
Kubi/ibi(ubi in some dialects)= evil
Mina/ emi,mi = me
Culture › Re: What Happened To Our Ancient 'YORUBA' Names by macof(m): 9:05pm On Sep 12, 2014
eph12: huh huh
never heard of oyo or ife Kingdom?
Christianity Etc › Re: Synagogue Church Of All Nations Building Collapses (Picture) by macof(m): 7:12pm On Sep 12, 2014
Lol it's funny how my favorite pastor didn't see this coming grin
I just love his shows, they crack me up cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Creation Vs. Evolution by macof(m): 11:37am On Sep 12, 2014
prettyboi1989: Nawa 4 una o, u guys are taking paracetamol for a dead man's headache, charles darwin dat brot the evolution theory who neva believed that there was God accepted God before he died, so watz d problem with d people supporting evolution? Na una create the theory ni?
more dumb christians...whats my business with charles darwin's personal life? belief in a creator God doesnt hinder ur subscription to the evolution theory.

u dumb christians only shut ur brains to any knowledge outside ur church

btw there is no prove to charles darwin accepting any god much less ur bible god in his adult years
Christianity Etc › Re: Creation Vs. Evolution by macof(m): 11:34am On Sep 12, 2014
EMILO2STAY: these are pure lies , there is nothing like genes that cuz humans to grow fur have been shut off. As long as evolution is concerned everything continues to evolve. If evolution is true the native of the amazon should have developed furs and foot-like arms cuz of the need to adapt to their environs.
cats, dogs, cows share much gene with humans why does the embryo not mimic these animals.
What u claimed as “gill slits” like those of a fish are actually your throatpouches. The embryo never has gills and they are never slits.They develop into important human organs like the ear canals, thymus, and parathyroid glands.
and how long have this people been livin in the amazon away from other human populations?
is it up to 10thousand years? it even takes longer than that for a specie to completely evolve into something else.


wat biological stuidies is there to prove ur claims in the bold?
Christianity Etc › Re: How True Is Hell Fire? by macof(m): 11:16am On Sep 12, 2014
Hell fire is a total fiction
Culture › Re: Olokun Song From The Decendants Of Carribean Slaves by macof(m): 11:02am On Sep 12, 2014
nice smiley
Culture › Re: Re: Bantu/benue-congo/igbo Relationship. by macof(m): 10:53am On Sep 12, 2014
cheruv: just as I expected to you backbite you never failed in doing just that. and I think its high time yolobas remove their eyes from Igbo affairs.. that we cohabit the same geographical expression doesn't give your nation that right!! angry
as per the yoloba,that's my accent... just as you guys doesn't have CH,V and H sounds in your vocabulary tongue
;Dthis man sef.
Culture › Re: Re: Bantu/benue-congo/igbo Relationship. by macof(m): 12:25am On Sep 12, 2014
cheruv: talking nonsense!!!
the nri dynasty wasn't militaristic but religious in nature.. something like the holy roman empire. its glory waned with the establishment of arochukwu in 1690 and its growth in 1700 till the demise of the aro Confederacy with the Anglo-Aro wars in 1902.
as a yoloba hater I expect you to backbite...
undecided what sense have you just made? cheesy
and wat is yolobahuh the name ur parents call u?
Culture › Re: What Happened To Our Ancient 'YORUBA' Names by macof(m): 9:26pm On Sep 11, 2014
eph12: Sorry sir. Enjoy your culture cheesy cheesy
Better grin
Culture › Re: Who Really Is ODUDUWA? by macof(m): 7:36pm On Sep 11, 2014
SambisaKing: One of the popular characters in Yoruba folktales who fell from heaven and broke a skull
there's no such person in Yoruba history.
Maybe youmistake oduduwa for your grandfather
Culture › Re: A New African Philosophy by macof(m): 7:35pm On Sep 11, 2014
what's this really about?
Culture › Re: Re: Bantu/benue-congo/igbo Relationship. by macof(m): 7:34pm On Sep 11, 2014
igbodefender: With courageous threads like this the great past of the Igbos will not remain hidden forever. I will post a link to it on the other thread and a link will also be posted on Igbodefender.com, so that it will get its deserved traffic. Ihuomadinihu de me.
Igbodefender why u linking Igbo to other ethnic groups
When you can find your history within yourselves. Don't you have elders who hold some tales as part of the general oral traditions??
Culture › Re: Re: Bantu/benue-congo/igbo Relationship. by macof(m): 7:34pm On Sep 11, 2014
Ihuomadinihu: This thread is for people that are interested in the igbo/bantu linguistic connection.
While it has been established by linguists and anthropologists that igbos are not Bantus,it is interesting to note that Igbo language share linguistic similarities with some Bantu and bantu related languages.
One forumite rather called for a cursive study of neighbouring ''Bantu related languages'',and here is my contribution.
An Igbo name for God is Obasi.
Yako(Bantu) - Ubasi.
Ekoi(Bantu like) - Nsi.
Duala(coastal bantu) - Ebasi.
Bamileke(Semi bantu) - Si and Owasi.
Bambuti(Bantu) -Baatsi.
Ibibio(Bantu like) -Abasi.
It seems like the operating rootword here is ''Si''
Alusi/Arusi could be added
Culture › Re: What Happened To Our Ancient 'YORUBA' Names by macof(m): 7:34pm On Sep 11, 2014
eph12: Culture? Tell me where has our culture and beliefs taken us to? Idgaf about any culture and please this is my opinion.
You must be a bastrd child for uttering such nonsense. People like you are the reasons why African values are being polluted and there's so much chaos and corruption in society
Culture › Re: Re: Bantu/benue-congo/igbo Relationship. by macof(m): 7:21pm On Sep 11, 2014
Ihuomadinihu: Well,this thread is not about Eri but i will say a few things about this issue.

From all oral accounts of Igbo people, Eri happens to have migrated into igbo land from the Northern igbo axis. His initial origin has not been established, some accounts point to Egypt,others to Sudan and Israel.
Am of the opinion that the language he spoke wasn't really different from Igbo in view of the names of his desendants and clans. Was he an Igbo returnee in the mold of Eze Chima and co?
Anyway,he established his kingdom amongst the local people he met. Am of the opinion that Eri was a Charismatic person,probably a Warrior,King/Prince and was probably deifed amongst Gusaii people.
Doesn't the igala theory hold??
Culture › Re: Re: Bantu/benue-congo/igbo Relationship. by macof(m): 7:08pm On Sep 11, 2014
cheruv: this is further proof that the Igbos came from the East around the region of Kemet(Egypt) and Israel,passing through those cultures and imbibing parts of them.the thing that can't be established with certainty is the period when this happened... but pundits place it between 1440BC when Moshe left Egypt and 950AD when the supreme ancestor,Eri established the Nri dynasty that now rules Igbo land smiley smiley
Lmao you must be deluded. Which Nri dynasty?

You should know that Igbo land has no exact hierarchy of kings because you all have different histories. Eze Nri cannot be head of Amaigbo, Umueri clans yes but not the whole Igbo
Culture › Re: Culture Zone of the Middlebelt people by macof(m): 6:35pm On Sep 11, 2014
Can anyone list all the ethnic groups in the middle belt. I am trying to compile a list.
Btw aren't Igede people more or less Idoma, I mean being that in language classification igede is Idomoid.

I feel it's pointless taking them as separate ethnic groups. middle belt should come together and organize their tribes into appropriate groups
Culture › Re: Olokun by macof(m): 5:35pm On Sep 11, 2014
@Ekundayo7 what are you trying to say, I don't quite get you sad
Culture › Re: Olokun by macof(m): 5:31pm On Sep 11, 2014
GooseBaba: Mr, Ekundayo7 how market..? grin grin is this another Koloyinbo moment.... grin grin
I tell you grin some mofos on this forum just making baseless accusations.

Where is that old gay now sef? I miss yarbin d man grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Creation Vs. Evolution by macof(m): 5:28pm On Sep 11, 2014
EMILO2STAY: lol guy ure funny. If humans speciated from chimps due to environmental factor dont u think humans who lost contant with civilation such as those found in the amazon should have speciated into something more like an ape with fur all over their body? Do not use microevolution to prove the macro evolution it cant work that way.
secondly, u cant be a christian and believe in the theory of evolution because that will be like believing that God is an ape.
Nobody ever said humans separated from chimps.

Pls go read a book. I don't why people are Still bothering with lost illiterates like this
Christianity Etc › Re: Creation Vs. Evolution by macof(m): 5:26pm On Sep 11, 2014
EMILO2STAY: my dear this has proved nothing now!, the lizard only changed in colour pattarn and size but still remains a lizard,it did not evolve into an aligator or a python.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Atheists Reviled? by macof(m): 5:15pm On Sep 11, 2014
finofaya: I was hoping we can get on the same page.

My definition of consciousness is limited to living things.

How can a non living thing be conscious? What is it doing with consciousness?
Ok since we share different understanding of consciousness you can never understand my definition of God
Christianity Etc › Re: When We Die! by macof(m): 4:20pm On Sep 11, 2014
MrAnony1: I have no need to edit my post or unfollow the thread. I just can't be blamed for your fallacious reasoning.
grin grin see mumu trying to insult me.
You made a clear statement everybody understood, to you living morally is due to the hope of having a blissful afterlife.

Which has canceled the factor of belief in Christ. That simple.
Either you edit ur post or you just keep quiet

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