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OLAADEGBU: Like?

u won't understand

Do you know of the Olodumare concept of Ifa?
if you don't you can't understand

JMAN05: What God needs from us is to learn about Him, and do His will. Divine Education is what matters to God nd application.

With that as a xtians PRIMARY pursuit, all other things are secondary. Just like servants of God in the past who had secular education, but refused to allow it guide their lives, so should a xtian be. Any concocted lies raised up against God's word is satanic. One may get the knowledge for some reasons, but never allow it to affect his worship of God just like God's servants of old.

Evolution is one big lie. That "doctrine" is a decoy. You dont disprove the bible with a lie.

What a true christian needs basically is to know how to read, speak, and write. This is the basic knowledge he needs to continue to do much more in his primary purpose on earth, learning about God and doing His will.

you Jehovah witness people are jst so weird.
You reject knowledge for every thing you perceive from Jewish ancient tales
Anyway na u sabi.

JMAN05: You are not right. Go and read it again. When something means little, or nothing to God, a true xtian gives it little or none of his time.

Lol everything means everything to God
afterall it created all things

A man without knowledge can't grow in consciousness.. lack of growth in consciousness is a wasted life and a pain to the soul

tpia1: The name Jesus supercedes any name of any idol of your choosing.

Really? But then wat concerns me with idols? no reason to have "idol of my choosing"

sholay2011: Evangelist tpia1, awayu re? Keep spreading the gospel. Jesus is Lord.


Btw, when did you become male

he/she is as confused as the holy spirit

Empiree: They are called Alujonu in yoruba. I believe that their narrative in Islam correspond with Yoruba ones. Maybe a slight difference.

Lol Alujonu isn't Yoruba. Probably jst Yoruba corruption of the original Arab name

Such spirits don't exist in Yoruba

And frankly I don't think they exist outside Islam

Howmanage: really? Never heard this before...

Heard it for the first time from an ex-Muslim..well he was a Muslim then
Now he is pagan/atheist

SweetyZinta: what makes you think dat was an intelligent write up? How come it didn't make FP? ALLAH said when d endtime comes alot of Unknowledgeable people will spread #Falsehood just d way u're doing. May Allah guide u aright.

Madam this isn't about Allah but Arab culture passing off as "Allah's commandment"
If you worship zeus, odin, Obatala or Allah I don't care for the purpose of this thread.

this is culture section, so am sticking to culture

Ghost01: I'm with you on this @OP. If you haven't already, read Anwar Sheikh's Islam: The Arab Imperialism. http://www.islam-watch.org/anwarsheikh/Islam-Arab-Imperialism.htm

Looks like a Great piece..I would read it when am free.
Thank you

truthman2012: I asked you several questions on your god, Ogun, which you cannot answer saying I should answer yours first. To escape answering, you kept asking questions I have answered many times over.

Coming to your questions again, I have these ones for you:

1. What other war did Yahweh fight on the plain that He lost, apart from the one you are talking about, which was not a lost battle but deferred for the reasons He gave?

2. Point to a reference proving that the deferred battle was not won eventually as planned as there was no mention of the plain still existing at the end of the event?

3. What do you mean by Holy Ghost? Was every speaker in the OT having the Holy Ghost? Tell me where the Holy Ghost spoke in the OT. What we have in the OT is ''Thus said the Lord'' and ''the Lord said''. Did the speaker say it was the Lord (Yahweh) that made the statement you are referring to in the Book of Judges? The Holy Ghost became general to all believers following Jesus promise after He left. Enemies of the Bible always refer to Holy Ghost in attacking it. Lies from the pit of hell.

When answering, include the ones I asked about your god, Ogun that is unknown by the whole world, whose operations and impact are not felt globally. But I'm sure you have no answers for which reason you are trying to avoid them.

Why should I answer you first when I asked first?

The bold is the only answer you have given
Which is that the Holy spirit isn't involved in the old testament

I would keep this in mind

Now pls answer my other question:
Show us where Yahweh drove out inhabitants of the valley in the Bible

Macelliot: so ogun created iron, sodium, zinc, aluminium, lead, silver, lithium, berylium, magnessium e.t.c(all metallic elements) hahaha.
Guy wake up, stop dreaming!!!
Ogun created all these and you guys are still using the white man's tech?
Your ogun is known only to the yorubas... And yorubas makes up only about 0.05% of the world population... Your proves failed scientifically, physically, spiritually, chemically, boilogically, naturally and artificially....

Yes Ogun lakaye Osinmole manifests as Iron, Zinc, lithium etc.
This isn't Ogunire that founded Ire-Ekiti but the God of Ogunire

Like a person bearing Ogungbemi is called Ogun for short,don't be confused

Ogun lakaye Osinmole is known everywhere in all cultures of the world but only in Yoruba is it called by this name yes. Who doesn't appreciate Iron??

Macelliot: Ogun is a human being like you with some extra-ordinary powers. According to legend, he disappeared into the ground in Ire Ekiti...
Dude, you can't decieve me, I was born and breeded in Ekiti state. We celebrates ogun festival every August. Me and my peeps use to wears jeans inorder to make the strokes of cane we recieves from the masqurades in-effective...
Even one of my peeps named "kole" use to wear the masqurades dresses...
Any other yoruba in this thread may prove me wrong if I am lying...
Lists of some of the masquarades names....
We called the fastest masqurades....(aladè atété). Others are Agbe, Owí, Ole(thief), wowajù-weyín, e.t.c forgotten most of the names....
Guy, I know yoruba history more than you....
I was born there, breeded there, spent my first 18yrs there, before I came up to the East last year....

Are you from Ire-Ekiti? If not then where in Ekiti are you from?

I've never heard of these masquerades except Owi and Agbe

If you know Yoruba history you would know Pagan 9ja and I aren't talking about history here
The Ogun you talking about is Ogunire an ancient warrior king that founded Ire-Ekiti, he was from Ile-Ife but worked most of his life at Ondo
Just like people confuse Oyamakinde (second wife of Sango) as the goddess of wind and storms called Oya in Yoruba

an Iyanifa interviewed Onire and asked why Saki also claims Ogun, he said Saki were not taking of the same Ogun.
true because it's different men who were simply devoted to Ogun(the God) and not the God itself. Gods don't live among men, never have, never will.

Pls learn difference in Yoruba history from Yoruba spirituality, most educated Babalawo have begun to discuss the difference and make things clearer. when you get home next time(if u from Ire) ask the Aworo of Ogun or the Araba of your town(although he might hold both positions, as Ogun is the main deity of the town) who happens to be a descendant of Ogunire whether his ancestor is the ogun that Ifa talks about

Ogunire is king where Ogun lakaye Osinmole is God

Spot the difference

malvisguy212: God bless you.islam is another way satan want to you to mislead mankind in to enternal demnation,satan sink our solid foundation through adam, glory be to God, he send his only son in other for man to start his new foundation, satan try again to dececive jesus when he tempt him, glory be to God he fail, but when he come to muhammad, because muhammad was a sinner, satan succeded in deceiving him, but thank God jesus has all ready conquer satan, our foundation is in christ jesus, the sinless one.

Good to here from you, stay blessed.

Dude pls take this to Islam section

truthman2012: Yes, anything that is not the truth is a lie. I have answered your questions but you refused to accept.

You said I should tell you the battle Yahweh won on the plain. My answer is: He wins every battle. I explained to you Judah's thought that they could not drive out the inhabitants of the plain because they had chariots of iron was not the case. It was a mistaken opinion. God had earlier said He would not overthrow the people at a time but gradually. Now tell me if they were not eventually driven out. Again tell me, which other battle they lost on the plain.

I tell you, the only people left were those who they (Israelites) intentionally spared for which Yahweh was displeased.

Yahweh is capable of doing anything He wants done. He is the Almighty. When He visited Sodom and Ghomarah with His anger, only those He spared were left alive. When He visited the generation in Noah's time, only those He spared were left. He sent His angel to visit a city, he killed over a hundred thousand people in a night. What can He not do? The same Yahweh parted the Red Sea for the Israelites to cross.

Which of those weapons could He not use to wipe out the inhabitants of the plain? Was it the brimestone of fire He used to deal with the Sodomites He could not use? Was it the deluge of water He used to wipe out people of Noah's generation He could not use? Could He not send angel or angels to deal with the people of the said plain?

Ask Pharaoh and the Egyptians, they will tell you their experience with Yahweh on the plain.

My friend, tell me what feat Ogun achieved in our world. What is his impact on humanity. Testimonies abound of Yahweh's healing live. I am one the beneficiaries. There is no other God but Yahweh.

You didn't answer my questions
here they are again
1. where in the Bible did Yahweh win against people of the plains during the Israel/Canaanite wars?
2. Was judges 1:19 an error of the holy spirit?

Let's get plain and direct answers to this so we can move forward stop all this twisting and running
We'll get back to all ur questions later

OLAADEGBU: Who is your Creator?

it is known in numerous forms

OLAADEGBU: Get an afterlife and begin to have a living relationship with your Creator.

I already have a living relationship wit my creator

And it had to take Anglos to formulate that name out of another formulated name

The OP is so clueless of wat the name Jesus really is
But then not that I disagree, I mean we all should Hail Zeus

Bravo Op!

You have begun to think outside the Bible even if it's just for a while...keep ur brain thinking and ask questions you would surely find the truth

Empiree: Jinns speak any language in the environment they are. I dont think it's appropriate to call them spirit. The word is too loose. Angels are called spirit. Human soul is also called. It's safe to call them "supernatural beings" in the sense that we cant see them. They live longer than human beings. Some of them live as low as 2000yrs old. Some live longer. They live among human in their own planet(Sammawat). That is, different dimension of space and time.
I am sorry there is no way i can describe this without a bit of religious sentiment. So please pardon me. Qur'an says that 1000 yrs is 1 day with God, 50yrs is one day with God etc. This means different sammwat(planet is close definition). Their planet is within the human earth. I wish i can explain better. There is a Yoruba movie titled "Aiye Tuntun"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAdn40JKM9c . The movie gives a clue about sammawat. So Jinns live among us but in their own sammawat where we cant see them. I tried to explain this.

These Jinns what are their equivalent outside Islam??
Say in ancient non-Arabic cultures

Empiree: It's funny how Christians, Pagans and Atheists would damn Islam and Muslims, yet many of your (you folks) topics and posts always have to do with Islam or Muslims. You guys are so obsessed with Islam. That's not by accident though. It's sign of Islam claim to truth. Which religion do you subscribe to?

this is just complete thrash cause Pagans and Atheist attack Christianity far more than Islam.

using ur ideology we should say anything most commended is true, then spiritual beliefs of Africa are true being that people are most obsessed wit them also how Africans themselves attack them and insult their ancestors to please Arabs and Jews

truthman2012: God bless you bro. Good to read from you.

Satan seriously desires being worshiped and so he established so many religions to actualize his desire.

Thank God you and I know the truth - Jesus.

Pls show us this truth.
You can start by answering my questions TRUTHFULLY
Rather than jst call me a liar and run away

oduastates: All those who do the okrika religions need mental assessment.
If you doubt it ,go to any revival and look at the congregation when they are praying.
What you see ranges from people speaking gibberish (like someone high on ganja) to people hitting their own head( like someone with schizophrenia ).
For the wannabe Arabs. ,do not get me started with examples like the ninjas.
If you like it or not ,the Orishas are coming back to cleanse the land of those 2 evil religions.
The modernised version of our forefathers' religion is coming back.
Practical,relevant and superior in her philosophy.
With lesson like Nobody is your saviour ,you are your own saviour and you choose your own destiny and a religion teaching you to be a valuable member of your society through the development of "IWA" ( good character) ,there is no doubt that a renaissance is long over due.
When you experience life overseas,you will understand what I am talking about.
From the non religious people I have seen who go about picking litter in their local park to those who have a permanent direct debit to the Red Cross , oxfam,wateraid and other charities .From the man who found my wallet and mailed it back intact (during my school days) ,to the neighbours who bring you cake when you first moved in.
Many of these people cannot say two lines of prayer but are more Christian than many of the so called born against who are nothing but a cult masquerading as a congregation .

Beautiful piece.

The last part of your post, is all about the hypocrisy of these so called "holy religions"
Where the adherents are actually criminals, immoral or just plain stuupid

OLAADEGBU: Let me educate you a bit on relationships. We have family relationships, working relationships, erotic relationships which are all different from the agape relationship with your Maker. You will need to get an afterlife to understand this.

And how is a dead man fulaman's maker?
See how religion makes u stuupid

donroxy: NO ooo !
You re the mentally deranged person here and Gbuaaa, na so thunder go blow ya head off !!!

this confirms it. You are actually Mad
am so sorry for ur family

oluwasegunfummi: am not from oshogbo, am from abeokuta, the more reason I relocated to lagos was poverty and leaking roof, in fact my family house in kuto ends up being a pool each time rain falls, its not peculiar to our family anyway, its a common thing in yorubaland.............eko o ni baje oooooo

Then your family must be suffering alot Why not return to ur village in the east?

At least village life can't be worse than poverty in the city

truthman2012: I am not surprised at your choice of words, satan has nothing good to offer.

Prove (with tenable evidences) that ogun is the creator of iron.

At what point in the history of the world did he create iron? State your source.

Why was it only iron he could create of all creations?

As your god, Ogun could create only iron, who created you? Who created the Sun, Stars, Moon, Animals etc?

May God deliver you from the power of satan.

Pls let's do this one step at a time.
I would answer all your questions but let's not leave my questions hanging

abubello: @Barcanista, at least the muslims know their positions with the Jews, but the way some (Nigerian) christians behave towards Israel, you would think Israel is a christian country

Very sad and disgusting that some Nigerians even call themselves Jews and descendants of Abraham.
These siily lots try everything possible even insult people when corrected Yet there's no single prove to their claims
I blame pentecostal christianity tho it's an evil in African societies.

Macelliot: Iron was in use before existence of Ogun. Iron has been in Use in the West, even amongs the Arabs as swords, jarvelin, spear e.t.c thousands of years ago before the birth of the great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grand father of Ogun...

Ogun granted Iron and all metallic elements to the universe. These are manifestations of,Ogun
Ogun here isn't a man

Get that into ur Numb Brain

Macelliot: All is Well.


I taught you were supporting them before, but they later turned against you... Hmm, All is well bro!



what's ur business here? What baffles me most is that, Confused atheists sides with pagans and still calls themselves "atheists".




Ogun, god of iron?
Iron existed before Ogun. Iron has been in use before Ogun or Did Iron created Ogun?
The gods are still asleep...... GO WAKE THEM UP!!!
God Almighty created ogun, sango e.t.c
To God Almighty be the Glory...
Go and tell that to the white men. They came and carried ur gods to their foreign countries for experiments in their laboratories.
Signed:- an unworthy Christian....

Such gross display of utter ignorance
Pls move along let those who know what Ogun is post

PAGAN9JA: actually it might just as well be the effect of bad religion. Nigeria was not like this before.

True! At least before everyone just followed their hearts. A pervert never had to hide his character behind religion.

texanomaly: Wow...seriously? I thought Nigeria was really religious. Both Christians and Muslims are opposed to this aren't they?

Yes, we are very religious but hypocrisy is also on the high

SweetyZinta: Bla Bla Bla!

Of course intelligent words are always bla bla bla to the stupid