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Rilwayne001: Even greater that yahweh a.k.a jehova

Stop this madnesss abeg

You should know that muslims and Christians are insane but Christians are worse as they worship a dead Jewish man and not what he worshiped.
Very sad indeed

OLAADEGBU: So you're now a traditionalist, I thought you said you were an atheist?

I never said such a thing

Lilimax: You may think you've read the Bible in and out but NOT.
I want to tell you that you're just reading the letter but have not contacted the Spirit behind the Word of God .

The letter kills but the spirit gives life (2 Corinthians 3:6)

thorpido: What you wrote here shows you don't understand spiritual things.You are thinking logically The 'most experienced has to be the first' line of thinking.
You are far from the knowledge of the truth.

I quoted 2 Peter 3:15-16 where Peter called Paul a beloved brother,yet you are still saying only Luke recognised Paul.Are you deliberately avoiding the truth?

so a man must seek a spirit and reject logic to understand words written by ordinary men

Jeez! These Christians are as dumb as dogs

deScifa: Yes Paul was never part of the early Apostles, When we read the epistles attributed to Paul or even the book of Acts many red flags seem to appear. For starters, Paul began by arresting/persecuting Christians. In the book of Acts we are told Paul was present at the murder of a Stephen who was a known Christian. Acts goes on to tell us Paul experienced a conversion on his way to Damascus to further persecute Christians. This account is mentioned in 9:1-31, 22: 1-22, and 26: 9-24. This whole story is suspicious for a number of reasons. First, the way Jesus appears to Paul in the story is not biblical. Jesus always appeared in the flesh, not as a light as specified in Paul's supposed account. Second, the account given is contradictory. Verse 9:7 tells us the individuals traveling with Paul heard Jesus' voice but saw no one. Verse 22:9 tells us instead the individuals with Paul saw a light but did not hear Jesus' voice. Third, is the improbable claim that Paul was on his way to Damascus to round up Christians. This is very unlikely considering Damsacus was a predominantly pagan territory at the time under Nabataean control. Paul would have had no authority to round any one up. Fourth, where are those individuals that were with Paul to verify this incident? It surely would make it more believeable if there were witnesses.

In the New Testament Paul is referred to as an apostle 22 times. Only twice is this done by someone other than Paul himself. It is not from Jesus, or any of the original apostles(disciples), but from Paul's friend and personal press secretary Luke. It is obvious from reading the accounts of Paul, Acts for instance, that the disciples did not believe him to be one of them. There was obviously no love loss between the disciples and Paul.

Paul never knew Jesus

Mintayo: Na wa o,see as i waste my time to read all these lies sha. Knowing that the Op isn't a christain clears all doubts!

As a Christian is a person content with living in lies.
A Christian never asks questions or answers questions because he doesn't want to know the truth or give the truth
Ask you pastors why they didn't tell you Yahweh is at his best on mountains

truthman2012: The devil is always striving to discredit Paul because of the feat he achieved through the grace of God upon his life. Anyone that is against Paul is an anti-christ.

the lying Christians often try to discredit king Saul, something the Jews don't even do.
Saul achieved much more than Paul
anyone that is against Saul is an enemy of reason

SonOfEl: OP, IT IS EITHER YOU ARE GAY, EXTREME FEMINIST, ATHEIST, OR JUST A NOISE MAKER SEEKING RELEVANCE. PAUL'S MSGS HAVE BEEN TESTED IN MY DAY TO DAY CHRISTIAN LIVING, AND U KNOW WHAT? HIS WORDS ARE DIVINE.

You should also test the words of guru Maharaj

truthman2012: Who appointed you a judge over Paul? Your judgement amounts to nothing in the sight of God. Who told you Rev 2:2 was referring to Paul? ''THOSE who say THEY are apostles'' does not connote a single man. Your conclusion that it is referring to Paul is erroneous. Many apostles were raised after Jesus had left and some of them the Spirit found to be false.

Paul played his part in this world and left indelible marks. Great signs and wonders characterized his ministry with the backing of his caller, God. With all the accusations against him and hatred for him by the people who know not the true God, the truth remains that he had evidences to show that the hand of God was upon him. He did what no man can do without the approval of God. Since God approved of him, who are you to condemn him.

What have you achieved for God? Paul was a human like you, what impact have you made in the world? How many people will talk about you after you are gone?

Nobody with the Spirit of God can talk ill of Paul and that shows the type of spirit that dwells in you.
It is a satanic device to discredit the writings of Paul. Those used by satan to criticize him only know the letters and not the spirit of his writings. They by so doing think they can pull down Christianity. Not possible. It is an excercise in futility.

Keep trying, you own your time to waste. Smh!

Is this how you consider a man of God?
Popularity, fame and achievements??

Then Alexander the Great, Julio Caesar, Homer, Aristotle, Einstein, Hitler are all men of God as they achieved much more than Paul could dream of. And people would still remember their Great works for thousands of years to come

Fulaman198: Whilst I agree with what you are saying, I do not completely. Arabs and Persians have far different names and languages. The Persians are actually closely related to Greeks, Hindus, etc. Darius for example is a Persian name, it is not an Arab name by any means. In countries with a heavy Muslim population, you can have 'Arabised' names that are based on Arab names but not completely Arab. For example:

Shehu (which is West African and mainly used in Nigeria, Niger and Cameroon) is the same as Chiekh
Hamidu (West African), Hamidi (West African and Persian) are the same as Hamid
Mamadou, Momodu, Mahamadu, Mahamdou are all variations of Mohammed/Mohammad
Nasiru, Nassourou, etc. are all Nasir

The list goes on and on. What I am saying is that yes, the names are Arab in origin (not Persian as it is an Indo-European language by classification). Asiatic is not a proper classification bro. When you say Asiatic you can imply all sorts of things. Arabic like Hausa and like 20+ other languages in Nigeria is an Afro-Asiatic language.

Yh you right but I assume you get the main point of the Op

Op: It is believed by the Yoruba that Esu has two
hundred names.

I was told by an omo Esu that it is 77, he gave me about 20

I never knew some consider it up to 200

PAGAN9JA: This is a very excellent write-up. Much Appreciated!


The reason the Lord Esu is so important is that Esu represents the fundamental concept of paganism. The balance of Good & Evil, write or wrong, etc. The balance of twin opposing forces.

I have notice even in Benin-Togo Vodun, they have the Legba representation/idol in almost all Shrines.


I have a question though.......is Orisha Ellegua the same as Esu?

Yes they the same

Beautiful!

All Hail Esu Odara, Esu lalu ogiri oko, okunrin ori ita.
Esu ma se mi o, pa isoro mi da, Ase!

GooseBaba: I agree with the aforementioned "Orun knows who/how to save." my question to you. are you expecting a messiah..?

no well except for a person who can kick some sense into these lost souls we have around who have forgotten where they're from

DikeOha882: How can you say Akara+Wuman is Yoruba + english? Akara is Igbo not Yoruba. It should have been Igbo + English

I seriously doubt this. Akara is a native Yoruba meal and that name should be as old as the dish

Oduastates you have stated the truth, it pains me when an Oba of all people rejects his identity and begins to lick Arab/Jewish and European shiit
He won't reject being Oba but all rites and responsibility that come with the title is shoved aside.

We need a resistance group to speak up against all these wrong doings by politicians and Obas.
How can we be secure in an Oduduwa nation with these corrupt and weak men

History they won't teach us, our traditions they would abolish, our culture they would substitute our spirituality they call idolatry
What use do they serve the Masses??

Look at many Towns are so dirty, bad roads etc

overhypedsteve: what re you saying. How dare you invade the motherland. Ife is the motherland. And you dare not invade it. The first invasion of Ife led to anarchy and chaos in yoruba land which later led to the ibadun conference. It is noteworthy that yoruba land was unable to form a united front against the British because of the resultant disunity and segregation.the army of dahomey marching to egbaland in 1851 fell under British made guns and ammunition supplied to egba. Just outside the walls of egba. Believe me if not for the disunity in yoruba at this time, a united yoruba nation would have given the British people a run for their money. And that would have to large extent prevented the annexation of yorubaland into Nigeria.

Bro Ife is very invadable. Sijuwade is a disappointment to the Title of Ooni.
This man should be an Oba for Oodua's sake not a business man running to Israel on pilgrimage and ignoring every problem of the Yoruba people

The Ooni is the most sacred Image in Yorubaland but Sijuwade has desecrated it, if it was in the past people would have forced his suicide

Vicjustice: [size=20pt]As a gesture of genuineness and goodwill, I advice mr. Suarez to go and make up with each and everyone that he had offended and hurt, starting from the one in Holland, Evra and this recent one. Then, he may go and sin no more[/size]

It was Ivanovic not Evra

malvisguy212: I never say cannanitie and the ammorite dint exist, they do the simple question is, why is there land been taken?they are in isreal, yes, but were is there land? Isreal,why did they allow isreal to possessed there land? the answer is,God give the israelites there land. Simple, know doubt your question has been answer.

If you don't believe in the bible, well that your problem, one thing for sure, GOD HAS BEEN REAVELING HIMSELF TO THOUSAND UPON THOUSAND,EITHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, YOU WILL FACE JUDGEMENT WHEN YOU DIE, BUT ME I DO NOT HAVE ANYTIN TO FEAR IF I DO NOT WORSHIP YOUR IDOL. Thank you for you time.

Have you been reading your Bible at all?? Jeez truly you be illiterate.
Pick a book and read and stop listening to criminals calling themselves pastors

Many Canaanite tribes have their descendants occupy Palestine, Lebanon and Jordan.
some are at the Jordan Valley, boundary of Isreal, Palestine and Jordan like Amorites (judges 1:34-36) ) and Hittites who still own the city of Hebron
Some have mixed with Hebrews (Judges 1:27-33) (Judges 3:5&6)
Kenites infact followed Hebrews everywhere and mixed with Judah (Judges 1:16)

God has been revealing himself?? Well the God you speak of isn't Yahweh because Yahweh has failed in his promise
The promise Yahweh made to Abraham in Genesis 15:18-21
Yahweh made a covenant with Abram,..I will give thy seed this land from the rivers of Egypt unto the Great river of Euphrates..."
This land covers from mt. Sinai in modern Egypt to Syria
Pls what happened to Yahweh that he has only succeeded in giving Hebrews less than 30% of the land he promised??

Howmanage: And is this common knowledge amongst muslims? For example, some Catholic practices originated in Paganism and the catholic church freely admits it though they say they now honour Jesus with the practices...eg christmas. Are muslim teachers aware of this deity which is now called Allah?

am nt sure as I've not discussed this with any other Muslim except for some on Nairaland and Facebook which they just twist the whole thing without giving answers

texanomaly: What do you mean? A pervert is welcome in paganism? If molesting children is his hearts desire it's ok?

there's no one religion called paganism. laws applied in one pagan society might be not be in another. However a pagan has no need hiding his character in the guise of religion since his mentality is typical of his tribal/ethnic culture

malvisguy212: sayin Yaweh dosent exist is like an athiest sayin God dos not exist.

know doubt they exist because satan will do his best to preserve his children, but know this, why is the land been name after the house of jacob[isreal]?since it is there land, why the land has not been name cannan as it was from the beginning until when God told them[the israelites] to take land? As my brother truthman said, let me not was my time.

Am not an educated boy, I drop out of school, long story, but when am in school, I did very well, but you, an educated fellow allow ignorance to blind him, Soooo sad, anyway, thank you for you time.

By the way, the christian in Yoruba land, were your pagan god is from, why is the christian population much more than your pagan god? Or is your god still sleeping?

I never said Yahweh doesn't exist. The deal here is where I know the true nature of Yahweh as it was in the old days of Canaanland, you have fallen victim to several lies Jews have been peddling over the last 2500yrs...and this is simply because you don't have the basic urge to read books (including ur Bible), travel around and ask questions, all you lost Christians do is listen to your criminal pastors.

Samaritans are still existing, remnants of these canaanite tribes still exist. Yahweh isn't the only God, this idea was a racist act by Jews of 500BC after the return from Babylon. Yahweh is God of mountains
That is why in many parts the Bible the God of Israel is seen to be at his best on mountains

Macelliot: Almighty God created heaven and Earth, of all things visible and Invisible, and all those self-acclaimed gods e.g gods of river, gods of rain, gods of wealth, gods of riches, gods of iron, gods of gold, gods of land, gods of harvest, gods of crop, gods of children, gods of seas, gods of mountain, gods of thunder, gods of wind, gods of rocks, gods of strenght, gods of war, gods of sickness, gods of death, gods of affliction, gods of immoralities, gods of impurities, gods of wilderness, gods of desert, gods of ancient babylon, gods of tower, gods of revelations, gods of pyramids, gods of streams, mermaids, queens, kings and gods of the Marine kingdom, gods of the kingdom of darkness e.t.c
they are all self-acclaimed gods with some extra-ordinary powers.....
All of them shall bear accounts of all their deeds(both good & evil) before thy Eternal Living Almighty LORD GOD on the Final day of judgement....
I rest my case..... Thanks!!!

In others words you read nothing of what I posted.
Anyway suit yourself and continue living in utter ignorance of the knowledge of your own ethnic group. Cus u know nothing about the concepts of Irunmole and Olodumare

malvisguy212: you don't even know what you are talkin,the land isreal possessed now, is it not the land of the cannanitie? Where is there iron chriote, why they did not use it to fight the present israelites? God preserve the israelites but destroyed the cannanitie. If you meet a cannanitie, ask him about his land.

Bro I wouldn't like to shift to history
outside the Bible, because the name
Yahweh doesn't exist outside the Bible
Show us where Yahweh drove out the
people of the valley...it's that simple

If you want to say descendants of those
people aren't still existing today in that
valley.
You should see this - http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Valley_
(Middle_East)

I would also like you to know that many
of today's Israelis are mixed
with Samaritans claiming to be the only
pure Hebrews

So Where is the preservation you talk of?

malvisguy212: judges 1:19.1:9-20 The Canaanites had iron chariots;
but Israel had God on their side, whose
chariots are thousands of angels, Ps
68:17. Yet they suffered their fears to
prevail against their faith. About Caleb
we read in Jos 15:16-19. The Kenites had settled in the land. Israel let them fix
where they pleased, being a quiet,
contented people. They that molested
none, were molested by none. Blessed
are the meek, for they shall inherit the
earth.Notwithstanding were are the cannanitie and the ammorite?these are isreal enemy, they were no where to be found, but uptill today, you will always here isreal,why? Because they are God chosen people, the book of hosea chapter 2, God say he will scatter isreal after two days[two days is the same as two thousand year in God calendar, 2peter2:8, psalm90]and on the third day he will gather isreal,why? Because God want to reach out to the rest of the world through the new testament church with he did, in the year 1900 there is no nation of isreal, but in the year 1948,the scatter isrea became a nation. God preserved them, but the same cannanitie in the book of judges1:19 was not preserved.

Truthman2012. Has already give you the answer .

You do realize most clans in today's Israel are mixed, mixed with Canaanites, mixed with East Europeans. and there are still some pure Canaanites in Palestine and Jordan (I think pagan 9ja would know more about this)
It would surprise you to know that Samaritans are pure Hebrews yet the so called "Jews" of greater Israel never considered them such, even ur Jesus was bigoted against them

So where's the grand preservation of Yahweh??

GooseBaba: But he said yorubas are actually expecting a savior.. You don hear that one before.? Abeg share information sharp sharp... Abi is this another yoruba linking themselves with jews... Lol

Yoruba believe knowledge is key to gaining a higher consciousness that is why Ela is viewed as a saviour.
Ela is the same as Orunmila, and as I have realized Orunmila has reincarnated so many times

Ela means Saviour
Orunmila means Orun(spiritual realm) saves some say Orun knows who/how to save

GooseBaba: The reverse is the case. Christianity is their foundation they added African spirituality. If you notice they never demonize or discard the essence of their religion. They are simply calling on the Orisha in the open, unlike their Nigerian counterparts that play hide and seek.


I find it confusing since their platform promise serious punishment for disobedience. But then again there are those that look, and there are those that see.

Just like that ogboni pastor that proclaims Olodumare as his creator but refers to Jesus as his Personal lord and savior. I don't know what he knows, but I know he knows something that I don't know..

that Ogboni man may or may not be truly Ogboni.
We have so many so called Ogboni in the guise of "Reform ogboni fraternity"
only God knows wat they do there

Horus: The African so-called blackness is questionable when they change their original names to European usually Christian names to be accepted by the Caucasians in their land. For the Orientals and Indians do not change their names to satisfy other races. Africans however especially from Africa today change their identity to satisfy the west. For many Africans in Africa are rejecting the public existence of their original lineage. If you do not respect your own lineage then why should anyone respect you ,for you are now adapting to the image of another race. This is a very negative trait taken on by the African in abundance for you are rejecting the names of your own forefathers, language, tribe and race. This is a template example of African suppression and those who challenge this notion are a negative force within our race for they put the ideology of another race ahead of their own.

Exactly what this thread is talking about. The moment you begin to give other cultures preference over yours then we have a big problem

Adyrin: I wonder how the richest King would be ugly, when the olu of Warri is a very handsome dude.
If God sent someone ugly, Peter and other discples would not even think twice to decline the invitation.
If He was ugly, some dicples would have said it somehow; I trut Judas Iscariot, if he can betray Jesus, he would have described Him as "that ugly man"
Rev 1:12ff describes His appearance!
Abi una feel say e easy to be the BRIGHT and MORNING STAR? LILY of tge VALLEY? ALL SUFFICIENT (beauty in abundance).
[b][/b]

JESUS IS LORD!!!

You know who else is called morning star? That's Lucifer, infact that's the meaning of Lucifer(a Latin word)

As far as am concerned my Yoruba ancestors never had a thing to do with Tower of Babel...our languages changed by drinking different river water, that's the story

igbodefender: @ Macof
The Proto Bantus are most likely to be Igbos. Their migration patterns from time immemorial as well as the one recorded in the Equianism book attests to this. Even today you have millions of Igbos outside Igboland and I believe even in your city. Igbos are like that, and its not changing anytime soon.

Well you'll need to tell this story to the Bantus with prove

Empiree: humm, clearly you dont know them. I dont think they ever appear to you before. They take form of almost anything. They can be as tall as palm tree, they can take form of sheep. I heard that they dont seem to have their form but not sure of that. Jinn or Jin is Arabic name in Qur'an.
I wont dispute whether they exist outside Islam (known to others). Islam talks about them. You see Islam is deep. It's the true oldest religion. No wonder I talked to a White guy about it in 2006. He was just looking like dummy. He doesnt understand what Jinn is all about. This is a matter of unseen. There is another one called Rawaniya or Rawaniha. Pretty much similar. Looks like they have more believers among them than Jinns. These creatures (Jinns and Rawaniha) also have religions. There are Pagans, Muslims etc among them. You dont want me to tell you a story about them.

dude enough with this abeg. There ain't no Jin if it doesn't exist outside Islam
I jst need to know if there are equivalent of this spirits in other cultures

truthman2012: I thought you were serious. You have changed your question from battle on plain to valley. If you are the only one reading the post I would considered my time with you a wasted one.

Readers would have by now discovered that your post is a pure error and that you are incapable of answering salient questions about your unpopular, good-for-nothing god, who made no impact in the world .

My point is outside the mountain/hill. Valley or plain lands what difference does it make? As long as it is outside the jurisdiction of Yahweh

Pls get out of here with shame if you can't answer a simply question.
Wat nonsense, I should answer u when you are not ready to play the game

you see how frustrated u are ur stupidity, hatred and lack of knowledge has made u put those words I bolded.
Unpopular and good for nothing you say? Yet it beat Yahweh in the canaanite valley
yet it provides weapons for all including Israel
Yet it discriminates not against sons or nations but hates only the unjust
Yet it molded ur bones
Yet it structured ur bloodcells
Yet it improves ur immune system

this guy. If you can't answer my questions say it and save me time instead of throwing insults to Ogun Lakaye Osinmole