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CollynzoII: No wonder Oduduwa was kicked out of heavem.
Unfortunately, his descendants are following his footsteps.

And this was the only reason u opened this thread...
Hatred and ethnic bigotry

when no one noticed ur offensive topic u decided to make this post to make ur intensions clear

Africans need a serious wake up call. These foreign religions have done too much harm

lepasharon: I just discovered a term "ebionite " and found this thread

And wat does it mean?

bigfrancis21: https://www.nairaland.com/822725/true-identity-yoruba-people/1#25398001

Ehen, that's the only single thing you had to say on a Yoruba-Hebraic thread opened by your brothers? But have rendered 1001 renditions on Igbo-Hebraic threads?

What else can I say to mad men who are only displaying their madness?

erabe: Not really,tho u might go through some proves or theories that contradict some laws of your faith but I still think it depends on what you believe in. Basics, know your religion very well perfect your faith b4 or during the course of you getting educated so when it becomes a fundamental in you nothing can get you off the right course

And when you believe the earth is flat by faith you have chosen to reject education.
Ur Faith here is the enemy of enlightenment

The problem isn't even the religious doctrines but rather the demand for faith in them which demands rejecting other forms of information which lead to education

tijjanioyan: The first woman 2win Nobel Prize 4 Mathematics is Iranian.Maryam Mirzakhani is a professor at stanford University,CALIFORNIA.
Iran is a muslim &islamic nation every body knows how it has advanced in terms of science &technology.anybody dat is fighting against education is just like a prsn who is making use of flashlight in darkness &calling 4 d destruction of batteries.THOSE dat are against western education are victims of endtime delusion.
ISLAM is SCIENCE & Science is Islam.google 'The Scientific Miracle In The Quran' you'll get some answers 2ur question

Lol this must be a joke

Islam is science the same Islam that says the sky is a concrete that holds water.
Stars are weapons against satan
The Sun sets in a spring??

Is this the science education you are proud of?

1ord: No they believed it was flat the bible even says so. Hence they tried to submerge research and discredit the belief it was round threatning astronomers with heresies and other backwards bull.shi.t. Truth be told Christianity has been one of the most oppressive religions. They committed lots of extra judicial killings in the name of God oppressed scientific research and medicine in the name of heresy and killed anyone who didn't oblige. That is why Illuminati came about. It was established by free thinkers so they could practice and research facts and share their discoveries in secrecy hidden from the persecutions of the catholic church.The Illuminati means the enlightened ones

Yet the same evil church and all equally evil Christian societies tagged the Illuminati a satanic organization.
Truth be told christianity gives the impression that knowledge came from their satan, because right from Genesis 3 knowledge has been tagged "Satanic"

Illuminatus: I don't know for certain about Islam and how open it is (seeing as I have heard from various sources that it is against Western Education), but Christianity is quite open and definitely promotes education (except some parts). As long as your field of study isn't Astronomy or other disciplines that come against Christian beliefs (Galileo comes to mind here), Christianity is quite open and to level, encourages it.
But education does hold people back from religion. The more enlightened someone becomes, the less intriguing and interesting religion becomes. I think this is the reason for the myth that educated people aren't religious. Enlightenment gotten from education (reading other people's ideas, experiences and scientific facts) exposes some facts and poses some questions that religious people and religion can't answer...

true, a lot of intelligent minds especially in the science field have openly questioned and defiled religious beliefs with various questions left unanswered with baseless excuses

When my family were buying land in Lagos we paid all Omonile fees, when people want to buy land in my town, my family is also free to request any fee.

Abeg if you don't like it stay in ur home town
You can't come far away from home and still act like a boss without paying omonile fees

FOLYKAZE: Heya sorry.

But you added to the prove that your God (which ever name you call him Yahweh or Jehovah) is the God of the hill.

Volcano is the effect of constracting forces within rocks which brings out consuming fire.

You are also an Aborisha, though you are ignorant of your identity. . . . .

Orisha Oke is Yahweh



Thanks.

Been in Nigeria is hell already, and I love been here. So I will be fine in hell. Nothing to worry about.

Foly let's discuss the nature of Aganju, Sango's father.
Aganju presides over wat exactly? I've seen santeria articles saying he is Orisha of volcanoes and deserted places but I think being Sango's father it would have more to do with the Sun

Have u ever heard from a Babalawo anything on Aganju?

ProphetUdeme: u will find it out on the day that ur soul will be bounded with chains and fetters by men that are brutish and skilful to destroy and u will be cast into a lake of fire were there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth .. And u will then repent and call on the GOD of israel whom u have blasphem but IT WILL BE TOO LATE

Lmao
I never knew souls had teeth or any physical feature to be chained with

Dumb Christian morons, this Bible would pass for a comic series

GooseBaba: Those cheap tricks has proven to be very dangerous. The evidence is glaring. I don't think they would have succeeded if they did away with the main names of each traditional deity. Sub deities on the other hand were easy target. Just term them demonic. Why should I call on saint Paul, Saint peter when I can call on numerous African deities for guidance.

Another part we should be looking into is economic growth and development from traditionalist.

However, when one is enlightened. He/she sees the big picture without trickery.

What do u say about those mixing African spiritualities with Christianity, like Santeria where The Orisha are sometimes called Christian saints??

wenzie: I am from Ipe Akoko in Ondo state, and when we speak it sounds more like an edoid language. Eg the king of our town : ovie umihani ama. Good morning is - wai loghi. The thing is that we have those that speak yoruba dialect and those that speak other dialects that are not Yoruba. But it is generally accepted that we originated from Ile-Ife so we are Yoruba.

You can imagine, So in ur town you have two languages?
One Yoruboid the other Edoid??

OJODEL10: yoruba belief that olodumare has a son called ela and they are expecting him to come and save them. just like the jews but esu is never a satan.

Ela is Orunmila
He reincarnates some thousand years apart.

tpia1: regardless where you're speaking of, your language and description is not a yoruba thing and not lingo used by women raised in the southwest.

Again.. I speak of Ekiti women.among the Yoruba nation.
I don't know how Else to break this down to u

tpia1: its usually calabars who boast of being best at cooking.,

that's not a yoruba thing.

yoruba women are expected to know how to cook, its not about them saying they can cook because nobody will ask them to begin with, if they can.

are you sure you're yoruba?

same goes for intimate prowess, no yoruba woman boasts of that.

i speak of Ekiti women among all Yoruba groups, I have no idea wat u talking abt

tpia1: omuo is a well known town in ekiti.

which I am just noticing today

SirShymex: Lmao @ Owo and Ondo...that's Missy89 the half-Ondo and half-Bini stone-cold-steve-austin.

I think the poster Pstylish first alluded to it, then I asked my dad...and later read more about it on Google Scholar. That's why the Oniru throne is Ijebu. I think the Elegusi crown started as Bini or something, but it later became an Ijebu-Remo crown. Then Ikorodu is also Ijebu-Remo(more Remo though). Also, I believe the Awujale founded Lekki when he gave it to Dutch explorers as far back as the 16th or 17th century. Epe was the major trading coast then. Too much to talk about - I don't want to derail the thread.

Anyway, is that why Ekiti chics have ridiculous bodies?

have u heard the numerous songs about the sexual prowess of Ekiti women?
and how our mothers are best at cooking

sandijey: Ekiti. Omuo- ekiti to be precise. They talk like there is hot yam in their mouth. Plus I have been to ekiti several times. . I hear a little bit of itshekiri. Its so much like yoruba but very very twisted. Like ekaro( good morning) in yoruba is Erewuro in itshekiri.

we Ekiti are so large that I have never heard of Omuo-Ekiti
Pls tell me a little about it? Have u ever been there?
Yes every unpopular Yoruboid language u hear always has its own twist..that's the beautiful thing

MrPresident1: The Garden of Eden is not Figurative. The Garden is real and it is in the East, where Oduduwa came from. You do Remember Odudwa came from Heaven dont you?

Deuteronomy 11:21
That your days may be multiplied, and the days of your children, in the land which the Lord sware unto your fathers to give them, as the days of heaven upon the earth.

Lamentations 2:1
How hath the Lord covered the daughter of Zion with a cloud in his anger, and cast down from heaven unto the earth the beauty of Israel, and remembered not his footstool in the day of his anger!

The Land is now desolate because it is occupied by strangers in what the Bible calls the Abomination which causes desolation.

The story of Adam and Eve is not the story of creation, it is the story of selection. The selection of heaven (rulership, Adam, Abraham) and Earth (followership, the heathenistic and idolatrous people).

Pls stop using oduduwa for ur crazy propaganda

SirShymex: Yes, something like that.

Epe and those areas from Lekki, all the way to Ikorodu have always been Ijebu. And the Awori's own all the other parts of the Island. However, when their King Kosoko was exiled by the British, the Awujale allowed him start a kingdom in Epe. That's why you've Awori settlements everywhere around there.

Anyway, is there any Bini settlement in Ekiti today?

Ok thanks for the little history.

No Bini settlements but there are Bini descendants in Ikere and Ado.
if u listen to Ado language, u would notice a Bini accent like Owo and Ondo too

SirShymex: The people identity themselves as either Eko Epe or Ijebu Epe...just as all the other places around the axis with Awori's and Ijebu's.

Since the Awori's settled there with their exiled King, from Lagos Island in the 19th century or so, they have become part of the place.

They both live together peacefully, with separate kings.

Anyway, you can ask people from there in Nigeria about how they identify themselves.

Ok I think i understand u
Similar Ikere-Ekiti where a Bini chief settled with some people and became a second Oba?

Danhumprey: My own na Efik and Annang.

get out of here..this is not mixed

PAGAN9JA: How will there be diversity in the future when every one becomes mixed?

Take Nigeria for example, imagine all our tribes destroyed. no more igbo vs Yoruba e-war.

no more different Nigerian Tribal cultures, from Igbos to Yorubas , to Hausa all the way upto Marghi.


Instead only 1 black people without any culture or identities. it is depressing.

This is true.
There won't be tribal consciousness anymore, which is a practical sin against God

SirShymex: Sir Macof, Eko Epe is the Awori settlement, while Ijebu Epe is the real Epe.

My dad is Ijebu Epe.

So, if you see Eko Epe, that means Awori.

Is it not the same Epe along ikorodu-ijebu ode??

abi there's two epe in Lagos??

rickkid: It's more interesting this way isn't it? My dad is Egun (Lagos) and my mum is Ibibio (from Akwa Ibom) but we all speak Yoruba and English. My brother married an Ikwerre lady (Rivers) and my fiancee is Bini.
We're Nigerian like that

More like southern Nigerian

sandijey: Yoruba/ itshekiri.

Mother yoruba, father itshekiri. Ekiti/delta. But I am more of Yoruba. Speak it and understand it. Don't understand itshekiri and I have never been to delta.

Wat part of Yorubaland? cus u may need to learn ur mother's language too.
Btw Itsekiri language is also Yoruba

Freelancer00: My father is 'Eko Epe', my dad is 'Ijebu Epe'. I guess I'm mixed

is Eko epe not ijebu epe

egopersonified: Sorry I'm full blown etsakor(edo), my mum, dad, stepmum, aunties, husband, children,etc,etc are all etsakor

true daughter of her father's village

Radoillo: Has the Awujale changed his position on the origin of the Ijebu people? The last time I looked into the issue, he was saying the Ijebu came from Wadai in Sudan.

well, he said the last migration into ijebu area, which his ancestor Obanta led was from Waddai and I haven't seen anything to suggest Awujale retracting that statement
But wat about the first people of the land ruled by Olu-iwa??

Arsenate: having stayed in Yoruba land for sometime now I won't really say they are religious tolerant. I'd say they are confuse; no insult intended here. seriously, how can someone go to Church in the morning, then babalawos house in the evening and once in while visits the imam for prayers? (true life story) this simply means they stand for nothing and hence everything goes.

True, this happens alot.

It's because the people know these foreign religions are impotent but the doctrines have so filled their heads that they are now too attached to totally break away