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lepasharon: Truth?So sister when I tell u there's a spirit for everything. If u find that to be true would you still reject just because it goes against all you've been fed from childhood |
Rilwayne001: He exist everywhere but people like you do not perceive him,That thread only talks of the consciousness of the universe. It doesn't prove Allah. Christians say it's Jehovah, Modern Jews says it's Yahweh, You say it's Allah but sorry no where in the known universe did ur Allah sign his name or leave his fingerprint. Show me where Allah is, I dare u to prove Allah created the universe? Where was he before he started his work? Wat made him start work? Boredom ![]() You want me to prove Ogun exists?? First of wat do u know about ogun? Because it would b a waste of time giving u the actuality of Ogun Lakaye Osinmole when you don't even know wat Ogun is pls I don't even want to derail my thread, I want a Yahweh vs Ogun discuss, as that's wat am ready for Open ur thread for Allah vs Ogun if u can |
lepasharon: Actually some of us like the idea of a Supreme being dealing with all aspects rather than a particular god of say fertility,nature ,wealthAre you after truth or comfort? |
Rilwayne001: -Your point here - ogun is god, but not a unique God since he is incapable of doing all thingsAnd this is epic failure. Because such a god doesn't exist outside the Quran. Even the real Allah is not such a god. If u disagree prove such a God exist with facts and observations |
Rilwayne001:Ogun is God Pls you are derailing the thread with your out of point posts I don't even know if you trying to drive a point for Yahweh or Allah with ur irrelevant quotes from the Surah |
Fulaman198: I think someone once posted 510 tribes in NigeriaNawa o...I think we need to organize ourselves and think this thing through to come up with an accurate figure |
musKeeto: So these gods are conscious, self-aware beings?Yes, they but don't misunderstand the meaning of "being" Because "being" is simply One that has consciousness to the degree of forming a personality, essence or nature. |
MrPresident1: OP, what is the similitude of ogun, how is he represented?Anything Metallic examples.. Iron Sodium Calcium Lithium, etc Are all manifestations of Ogun |
Rilwayne001: Surah Al-Hadid, Verse 1-5I agree with you, this is what I would say about Obatala and Oduduwa. But wat has this got to do with Ogunlakaye Osinmole, the builder of your bones and blood cells?? Pls this thread addresses Yahweh and Ogun What importance does Yahweh have that Ogun doesn't have and much more? Is it in war?? Ogun himself is God of war, without ogun you cant fight a war It is ogun that gives weapons and protection in war Without ogun, you won't have living organisms, it's him who assisted Obatala in forming the humanity and other animals |
basille: How do i define God?Beautiful! To add: no certain "God" exists, be it Jehovah, Obatala or Zeus..these are only human concepts of their understanding of the universe. So when youtalk of god- the creator, we aren't talking of some being in the sky that had a human son in Jerusalem, or an old man living on the highest mountain. There's simply that one body - one body that constitutes all in existence, from the wind to trees, humans to animals, planets to the stars and all space. in short words the entire universe is God itself...you won't find any heaven anywhere in space..unless God is an alien what I mean here is that Energy is the only thing that matters, as matter itself is only condensed energy. This creator doesn't hear, speak or move around(it's already everywhere anyway) but is conscious that is being proactive, reactive and active |
Yahweh, the god of Israel who in Semitic spirituality is the spirit of mountains and hills(if you doubt, challenge me to this) Ogun, the spirit of all metallic elements particularly Iron. In yorubaland, Ire-Ekiti, Saki Oyo and Idanre are his patron cities. Here we would see how the Bible records a battle between these two spirits Judges 1:19 - And the Lord was with Judah, and he drove out the inhabitants of the mountain but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley because they had chariots of Iron There's two things in this verse 1. Yahweh's strength lays in the mountain 2. Judah with the grace of Yahweh couldn't defeat an army with the grace of iron(Ogun) |
ProphetUdeme: i dont blame that silly atheist blood running in ur veins.... I really pity u and ur colleaguesI don't blame the idiotic slave blood running through ur veins. I really pity your children, because u would only kip ur heritage of slavery going |
Beaf: A lot of the words listed are Isoko and Urhobo words as well. So? lol Beaf: ^I hope from 2011 till now you have acquired more knowledge on This matter Itsekiri are share more than alot with other tribes to the West(Yoruba tribes) Even itsekiri language is Yoruboid, infact it is Ijebu language reformed |
This thread gives more aid to the defining movement of our brotherhood. Itsekiri were wondering ijebus who settled in today's delta state so many years ago. Urhobo, isoko and Olukumi are also our kin. No one is tagging them as Yoruba but we should also note that the only true Yoruba are Oyo...the rest are only called so because of our bond with oyo. Ekiti, Ijebu, Okun, Urhobo, Edo, Esan, Awori, Olukumi etc are all members of one family. And we are suppose to be that way if not for the despicable politics of Nigeria |
frank317: just imagine what you are saying.... if one voluntarily goes into business with a fraudster (not knowing the guy is a fraudster), does that vindicate the fraudster from being guilty?Don't mind the semi-illiterate. This is what Fulaman opened up a thread for. How many have gone blind and rejected reason due to religious bullcrap |
jesuslovesme123: Consign indeed... Revert to the religion of your ancestors, it's in your blood. That is the choice of your spirit before coming to this life, you are only killing your soul. |
Oh! Plaeton But then are you saying the human brain doesn't act by it's own will without the influence of these "microbes" |
oluwasegunfummi: ok, my low knowledge is due to awo free education, my bible tells me that only devil fell from heaven, now related it to the case of our pregnitor, oduduwa........eko ooni baje ooooWell ur parents never sent u to school, now you have nothing better to do than open a nairaland account impersonating and insulting Yoruba people. Ur Bible must be full of idiocy and utter fiction to tell u a man fell from heaven..where is heaven dat ur devil fell from? You know absolutely nothing about oduduwa, so u only drive ur stupidity all around trying to ridicule the Yoruba such a wasted life you are living, go get a job |
oluwasegunfummi: I believe it and I believe oduduwa our pregnitor is the devil that fell from the sky........eko ooni baje oooooYou must be an illiterate. Funny thing is you are trying to act like some sensible individual when you are so low in knowledge. Where in Yorubaland have u heard Yoruba saying oduduwa is the devil that fell from the sky? Complete slowpoke |
PAGAN9JA: [size=18pt]THE GODS FORBID THIS KIND OF IDOLATRY WORSHIPING JEWISH WOMEN!It's called Mental slavery and intellectual imprisonment. These folks would rather kiss the feet of Jewish men than say one good thing about their ancestors |
ledafaze: Really? I would love to be First Hokage, Second Hokage, Fourth Hokage, Orochimaru, Naruto and Sasuke all together. heheheheWhy did you skip Sarutobi...the third hokage?? no one seems to think he's awesome |
kulkatty: Uchiha itachi Elzends: Itachi ![]() |
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Emmaomotob: Then tell me the source UNIVERSE came from,pls try to tell me the source of each source you mention ,then you will see you have to Go to infinity to answer the source of every source you mention.The likliest answer to the Infinity question is 'God'Lol you such a hypocrite. You post the bold and you still conclude a sourceless source. You case is a classic story of a man who doesn't know the answers but makes up one |
Sorry, but how does this prove Allah exist?? Who says it's not Obatala or Zeus that is the real consciousness behind the universe. All the OP is about is that the universe is conscious, or there's a consciousness responsible for it, however telling me that consciousness is Allah - an Arab deity that metamorphosed from an Arab pagan deity of the same name - is ridiculous |
Fulaman198: Most of the 250 ethnic groups reside in the North and there are quite a lot. There are not that many however in the South.North? Same North where the Hausa language and identity is the general order If wat u say is true then these "ethnic groups" are rather too small, below influential and almost irrelevant |
There's nothing to use to identity a Nigerian because there's no identity as "Nigerian" As a wise man ones said "The only true identity of an African is his tribe or ethnicity" I as a Yoruba man have more in common with a Beninese Anago than a Kanuri from Bornu, Nigeria |
Fulaman198: No, it's hard sometimes on how others will see you as a Nigerian. Nigerians could easily pass for other West African nations due to the fact that Nigeria has over 250 ethnic groups. However, it is easy to differentiate a Nigerian from a South African and a Nigerian from a Kenyan due to far different regions.250 ethnic groups You probably mean 250 tribes,cus it's impossible for one nation to 250 ethnic groups?? that's already enough to make a continent ![]() |
tonychristopher: Thanks for seeing that but I will love you to understand that Igbo never claimed they own Lag but acknowledge that as Nigerians they have the right to live in Lag and those of them that bought lands know that they own the lands not that they own Laos it will be wrong for any I/O to claim that they own lagof course no Igbo dares claim Lagos, not even ijebu can claim Awori parts of Lagos talkless of far away Igbo. But here am even talking abt ibo often supporting Bini in their claims of oduduwa, Lagos and Ijebu..Igbo even seem to make more noise than the Bini when it comes to the history and foundation of Lagos. . Saying Bini owns Lagos, oduduwa is a Bini prince and all those crap(which you yourself have made in this thread) Now u know how it feels when some outsider comes with loud mouth and starts making baseless claims that his ancestors dare not |
Most of West Africa practices the same form of spiritual doctrines. Akan, Ewe, Fon, Yoruba, Edo, Igbo...I don't know much about Ijaw traditions and spirituality but I would guess it is similar to the aforementioned. Voodoo and Orisha lifestyle are the same, only different names and little rituals |
igbodefender: These guys are Bantus and the earliest Bantus were Igbos!Nah! Akwa ibom/cross river is the ancestral home of the Bantu |
but honestly this is bullshiit. These things were human inventions. Ancient civilizations were magnificent If only archaeology is practiced passionately in sub-Saharan Africa like in Egypt and middle East, we would find more wonderful achievements of our old human ancestors |
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