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Oghos1: To say there is no God, means u do not believe in the supernatural/extraordinary/spiritual and that's where these atheists are getting it wrong.

You only need to look around you to see evidence of these.
Go back to your villages and tell me all the native doctors there are powerless.
All my brothers in the east (without being tribalistic) look around you and tell me that people who do rituals for blood money, occults and other forms of dark powers do not exist.

You don't even need to go back as far as creation.

True but this has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

I would have addressed this but I'll leave this for another time

YBNS CEO: even if you rap..e my mum in my presence you are still my brother!!!I love you dearly bro!!!
Even if you are a pagan and am not!!!I extend my love to you!!!I don't blame you for worshipping or believing in evil spirits like amadioha!!life didn't come with any manual!!!
But it wud be a great sin and stupidity on your path if you let satan the ruler of the earth and fada of your gods»evils spirit«control you till death!!!SO DEARLY BELOVED pls leave those powerless demons you serve and come to the living GOD!!!repent and come to christ!!!#peace

Actually life came with a Manual- that's our consciousness.

It's left for u to use that Manual
But I see u have been polluting on it

pls answer my questions

YBNS CEO: you are here believing in an evil spirit that doesn't have root oversees!!!shows how fake it is!!!repent now b4 u die in sin!!!#peace

Are u serious? u think God is from oversees?

WTF dude u just established urself as a slowpoke
Do u think ur far-ancestors were honoring God? Do u think it's the white man that brought God?

Yes they brought christianity while Arabs brought Islam but they had their own religion already.

It's purely foolish to think "root in oversees" applies for a God to prove authenticity

The concept of God of Islam is nt the concept of God of christianity.

The philosophy of the God of greeks is not the same as the God of Yoruba or Hausa

aManFromMars: If God created, from what did he create. The artist needs crayons, paint and a canvas.

- is he in our universe? Can we have access to him? The characters in a book can never have access to the author's mind.

Most importantly, would an omni-x God be bothered about belief or lack of belief of his creations?

True because the creator doesn't care wat humans do or say, beliefs are irrelevant in the spiritual realm

Swagalord18: off context
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I never said "God created" ...so u can go ahead and answer me

U don't need to say it, it's obvious that's where u are headed

U seem like a criminal

obisage: I am not an Atheist, neither am I a religious extremist.
but as a Christian, I really wanna understand what I
believe in. I want to know whom I worship.

I am not worshipping God cos I was born in a Christian family
I'm doing so cos I have had my time to find out if truly this
being/deity called God really exist.
And truly HE DOES EXIST!!!

here are some reason why I really believe he exist:
everything is the world is orderly.
there are rules guiding everything.
look at the law of rain recycling
look at the law of planting a seed;
when it dies, it comes to life again.

but for now, I don't go to church.
I worship God in my house.

Wat makes u think christian God is responsible for that?
Have u examined wat ur anceatral spirituality has to say about the "Creator"

unmask: Who created God?

Man

rationalmind: No, natural selection is the answer not chance.

forward

yet u think spirituality is nonsense.
Where did science come about that conclusion? This is wat our ancestors have known for over 6000yrs

Whether na Adebiyi or Adeboye.

Pastors are all liars and going to hell
None follow the example of Jesus as stated in their mythical stories

YBNS CEO: shut you useless mouth!!!gods that come from satan!!!

Is this how to address someone u love?

Am sure u gay right? Much like ur Jewish master

YBNS CEO: you have the chance to embrace life now because once you die no more salvation for you sir!!look inwards billions of people around the world believe in God

Wat is death?
Wat is salvation?
Who is God?
Wat is the right concept of God?
Are billions of people right all the time?
Who are those billions of people?
Wat is their concept of God?
Wat is an evil spirit?
How do u know an evil spirit?

POPE II: Wikipedia is not a finding nor a reliable source, besides there are many anti catholics all over the world, they write books to make money you know anything anti Catholic sell , they create controversies, lies ,falsehoods etc for their pockets only.

Meanwhile why did u leave the thread about pagan/my ancestors being Catholics I thought u would engage , I actually want to open a thread for u and pagan . Will u join, discuss and debate?

Watever dude I have said the truth, this isn't about internet links but my personal investigation.

You think I left christianity for internet articles

Do watever u, I have a stuupid Christian fellow to tackle somewhere else

Viewing topic: YBNS CEO, PAGAN 9JA

Let me join in

Nofaith whether u are Christian or atheist

Yoruba or non Yoruba
You know nothing about anything Yoruba

So if u claim to be Yoruba, which I disbelief. You would have to prove it.

If you can't prove it then you have no right to claim I am rebranding Yoruba spirituality since u know nothing about Yoruba

Just because ur dull brain hasn't been exposed to such constructive and pantheistic explanation doesn't mean I am changing it.

The funny thing is none of u care if u are being lied to.

You don't care if ur pope and pastors are evil liars

You have been growing feeding with this lies but many people have seen this fraud by the Roman government called christianity

I was already solving and realizing a lot through my private investigation but thank God I am not the only one, many have posted their findings on the internet and published books about this

striktlymi: I don't think one's beliefs or disbelief should be the bases for choosing a mod.

Equality and fairness

mayim: Well, that's my cue. Peace

Good cause u never had anything to say.

Just like one JW woman that disturbed me this morning, telling me about "why we await the 2nd coming of Jesus"

I was like "Jesus is dead and gone, dead people don't have 2nd coming....unless u mean their souls return to earth as a reincarnation in another life"

She said "No, Jehovah sent Jesus to come and die for our sins and he would come back to take Jehovah's children to paradise"...."you have to give ur life to Jehovah so he can be ur friend"

There I just hit her "Eledumare sent Sango to come and die for our sins and he is coming again soon to take us to Ikole-Orun"

She started lamenting "Sango is the devil bla bla bla"

I told her "Esu has cursed u with confusion" this made her fear and started praying against devils

Then I said "if u don't believe my story which is very similar to yours, why should I believe your story"

Her junior sister in the Lord Jehovah had to call her to leave the debate

Networkmaster: I don't know who this moderator is but I would like to ask you not to block any of my post again, as long as its not insulting to anyone and not a strong language or else you will know why I am called Network master.

I posted something in Spanish in reply to one of the comment regarding if I am truly an Ecuatoguineano and you had to block my comment, I am so sad at your action, I consider it rude and disrespecting.

Tomorrow, someone will come here and call South Africans xenophobic.

they trying to hid something from the public

nnofaith: So if i am a driver i will nourish ogun energy by beheading a black dog at ogun's shrine and after doing the nourishment ogun protects me from accident. lol! you are just wasting your time. some of us are yoruba too and we can see through your charade. using fancy words to re-package and re-brand yoruba myths.

Anybody who claims to be Yoruba but doesn't understand wat I and Foly have been saying is not Yoruba but a bastard child who knows not his ancestry

FrancisTony: stop telling my your story because i already know it. Hehe....LOL. Ayam cwiouxly praying for you. God Bless

Like I said I now see that u are not worth it.

But for the sake of people who are of higher consciousness and wish to grow more

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almah
www.hiddenbible.com/jesuszeus/jesuszeus.html
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wikI/Jesus_(name)
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenon
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshua_(name)
www.babynamespedia.com/meaning/Zous

In Greek "a-Ie-n" means worthy of praise or Great achiever

Ie- used as a phrase to praise a Great achiever who is worthy of praise.
Sous/Zous- refers to Zeus

Iesous = hail/praise Zeus

rationalmind: I specialise in debunking miracle claims and testimonies.

I can see that

But visit Odo Osun or Osanyin people any time u are free

Mr Troll: Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.

I wonder why macof will not believe Christian testimonies then.

I believe some that Ise sense in, I disbelieve the rest

I want to know... How does a pastor heal a man that has been crippled all his life when he is not possessed by Obatala or Osanyin

rationalmind: The second part of your explanation I agree with. The first part I don't.

When you have such a river as osun river which heals, doesn't it bother you why we still have people with HIV/AIDS?

Does it not occur to you to take lots of the water in a bottle and announce to the whole world you have the cure for HIV and who knows, win yourself a nobel.

Thirdly, have you ever heard of the placebo? What about coincidences?

Edit: have you ever heard of this statement, "correlation does not equal causation?"

Do u believe Odo Osun heals? No

Do u believe the cure for HIV exist but hasn't been proven? No, u probably believe it a cure doesn't exist because Europeans haven't created it yet.

You see where Modern scientist are just finding a way to prevent a negative from contracting the virus, The Yoruba have had a way of preventing anybody from contracting anything for centuries.

As for being Healed of Aids or HIV, The cure is everywhere especially in Africa, but laziness, disbelief, low self-esteem and brainwash cannot let people go to the Forest to seek Erinle and Osanyin's help in fighting Sopona.

Osun river hasn't been proven wrong, if u have an HIV positive friend take him/her to Odo Osun and test Osun
Osanyin has blessed Osun and taught her how to heal. There is No Osanyin devotee that falls sick or even as health issues at least until freckled old age.

I have never heard of placebo. And Coincidence itself is controlled by forces.

Scorpionking:
if you do not like western stuff then move to your village with your high self esteem. self employ your self if you dont want to work for whites,indians and chinese.

you think I am like u who works as house boy for Chinese and Indians

Mr Troll: this is a flawed question. According to macof, osun is not a sentient being but an abstract concept ascribed to sex, beauty etc so anytime you fuq you experience Osun

was this what you meant when you said Sango can be induced to act?

Yes and more...I once watched on the TV one Sango devotee who was possessed and began talking in a thunderous voice. They stopped the show right there

I later heard that such are very prevalent, That when Sango is well appeased with the dancing he starts hailing lightning.

Sango is also sometimes referred to as Orisha of dance, Osun fell in love with him because of his dancing talents

texanomaly: How do you know it was Osun?

Did u read the link I sent to u?

rationalmind: Same way you claim you were healed by the river, christians claim they were healed by God. I hope you see why atimes, you people are not in anyway different from the christians you bash.

Ehen, let's talk about the second part. You mean you had se.x with osun? How? I go like phuck osun too o

True. Anybody can credit anything to his healing.

Lemme explain further by narration...
I went for Osun festival, a strong headache befell me, I was weak and so down then I was asked to take water from the river, I walked to the river got a bottle filled, I drank and poured some over my head. Less than 3secs the headache left. <<< while doing all this I was so full of doubt but Osun proved me wrong.

I called with the priest and he said he was not in a position to explain the river's power. All he said was "Osun heals those who come in sincerity"
That river has been doing such for over 600yrs

Noo, you still don't get anything...Osun is not a sentient being, she has no Organic features.

The act of Sex is caused by a physiological state of the brain reacting to stimuli. The energies responsible for this is wat the Yoruba call Osun

mayim: I would make my point clear after you do me a big favour by answering dis questn.
Are u a christain? And do u bliv in d death and resurrection of jesus?
And d comparism isn't the only thing I wrote about, give thought to other salient points I made in respect to studying your bible.

I am not Christian.

And I know a myth when I see one

nnofaith: lol! nourishment as in vitamins? you are definately lost.

Have u ever heard of natural disasters?