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Eze Promoe: [color=crimson]NAY. You are the fool.
In one speech you say that God doesn't exist and in another you say that God is a fool.
How can someone who never exist become a fool?

Now, who is the FOOL here? [/color]

dude are u crazy? I never said God doesnt exist.
I only say he is not wat The abrahamics think he is

^^^ Thats wat he says now, Until he owns 3 private jets

Eze Promoe: [color=crimson]ALAIGBO ahuwo olu aka ya we kpo ya
Okaka,
Oma ama amasi amasi,
Dike n'agha,
Agunechemba,
Onye ike nile di n'aka,
Chikadibia,
Eze nke ndi eze,
Chukwu obioma,
Chi obirizo (Ikwerre)
Chukwu n'eche Ala Igbo nile!

This God raised a cripple, made HIV+ become HIV- , Gave a barren woman a baby at the age of 60, saved my mother from death, and did so many things I cant mention because of time.
The good thing here is that all these happened before my korokoro eyes.

The name we gave to this God, we never gave one-tenth of them to our deities, because this God is tooooooooooo wonderful. [/color]

This guy is really daft o
pls answer my question and stop posting long yarns

Eze Promoe: [color=crimson]Hahahahaha.
No matter how hard you try you can't prove God wrong
Ask your fathers![/color]

I dont even need to ask my fathers, I am asking ur Holy spirit

nnofaith and wiegraf are just foolin themselves on this thread. I wonder wat their aim is

[quote author=emmy-richie] This is hilarious. Na their money dem dey spend ni? Or are the parents complaining?

Aproko? Or madness? Or they re out of ideas?

Perhaps, they should trim down the number of subjects pupils and students offer.

It'd be awesome if apart from English language and Mathematics, other subjects in which any student isn't good in should be taken off his/her number of subjects in a calender year.

This idea is still subject to scrutiny though.[/quote]Public schools in Lagos are free, parents pay next to nothing for their children education in Lagos state.

Rexyl: God will soon find and arrest him to witness for Christ. Amen

so God works for christ now?

ezme: Are you saying the bible is an allegory? if yes, who stands an authority for the right interpretation? Your Pastor?

Intelligent unbiased folks

Eze Promoe: [color=crimson]It means that, that time you think He is foolish, He is more wiser than whom you thought to be the wisest.

THANK ME LATER! [/color]

lol Yahweh is truly a FOOL
https://www.nairaland.com/1509799/only-fool-says-there-no

Eze Promoe: [color=crimson]Personally, I have.
You too can experience the saving power of His Grace if you open your heart and embrace Him [/color]

I didnt ask about U.

U said Israel has encountered God, What about Ur tribe?

If u dispose the catholic church for having Roman traditions then u are worse for the Pentecostal churches have Jewish traditions.

so disgusting for people to leave their traditions behind for a dead gay jew

Eze Promoe: [color=crimson]The foolishness of God is way way wiser than the wisdom of men [/color]

so Yahweh can be FOOLISH?

NativeBoy: You are making a false assertion that the reason for Nigeria and Africa's plight is their forsaking of their gods. If it were so, those tribes that still cling to the traditional way should be far better off than the rest which is clearly not the case. The black man's plight is foremost caused by his lack of identity; he lacks the knowledge of who he is because he doesn't know where he came from. He doesn't know his history.

That being said, it should not be taken to imply that he must worship the gods of his ancestors if he is to reconnect with his heritage. If that were the case, we would all have to find the gods our respective tribes worship them. Even then, what will it do?

You have tried to argue that the Judeo-Christian God is not the God of all, but that argument cannot succeed. There is so much scripture speaking about the gospel going to the Gentiles and Africans have been a part of the early church since even before Christ died.

A couple of examples: The man who helped carry Jesus' cross was African. The eunuch that Philip the evangelist (sent by the Holy Spirit) witnessed to was African. Moses married a black woman. Joseph's wife and his children were most likely black. The Judeo-Christian God is the God of all.

Again, primarily in the Old Testament, he dealt solely with the children of Israel and during these times of ignorance, it was fine for everyone to pursue their own gods as it suited their understanding. But now that Christ has come, the light has come to the world. The one true God has been revealed to man.

I sincerely hope you will not try to contort these scriptures. They are clear as day.

Ultimately, it is not in accepting the Judeo-Christian God that Africa's problems will be solved. It will begin to be solved when we begin to use the talents God has given us.

so if this is ur point, lemme not argue with u for NOW
just answer this:

if Israel forsakes the God of their ancestors- Yahweh, wat would become of them?
Severe times in the past Israel has served other foreign Gods......No No not even foreign Gods, Native Gods that their neighbours worshipped, yet they lived well until Yahweh dispatches some prophets to tell them of the wrongs of worshipping another God over the God of ur convenant? why did Israel still progress under these other Gods?

FOLYKAZE: Wow you from Ido? You people with pounded yam in a leaf wont kill person. I enjoy spending two days in that place.

I dont know if to call Ooni an Oba because from the story I heard, Ife is the spiritual home of Yoruba people. This is the place Oduduwa do daily rituals for spiritual back up to economic, political, and social balance in physical realm of Yoruba land. So calling Ooni custodian or caretaker far make sense. But since he lead too and that equates to been called king, I dont have problem with that. Oranmiyan created Oyo empire as a political and military base of Yoruba land. It was Eweka that became the first Oba of bini while Oranmiyan rule Oyo empire. From what I heard, Oyo empire was the strongest empire in Africa and expanded to the west far to republic of benin but wondering why they couldn't go east far beyond benin. But from another story I heard, Onisha people were primarily from Yorubaland. The story is kinda complicated.

What do you think could be the kingship relationship between bini and Ife if there wasn't any connection between them? The story of Oduduwa coming from Igodomigodo have traceable link than lamurudu from mecca and the foolish one Mr president was saying.

I know the britain have done real damage to our history and identity. The worse is Oduduwa son selling his birthright and identity for money, fame and loyalty to oppression who claim Oduduwa and Yoruba people are from Israel.....middle east.

Ekiti is the home of Iyan,

Do u think the Ooni is lying about his Oduduwa lineage?
I wouldnt want to call a King a lair

However Whether Ooni is a descendant or Not, he is not on the level of Alaafin

Bini And Ife have always had a good relationship and bini has high respect for Ife for The singular reason that Eweka's father(Oranmiyan) is from Ife.

Now with this claim of Oduduwa coming from Old Bini does make sense but I still have doubts. I always thought he came from somewhere around Idanre or Iwo.

foly I heard Olokun(the human) was the wife of Oduduwa when he came, do u know anything about this?

Is that really You Jesus?

Eze Promoe: [color=crimson]Because they had a first hand experience of the amazing power of God [/color]

And ur people havent?

Mr Troll: in other words they're Jealous and Petty?

Fighting over their right to be worshipped?

Funny Funny people.

No they dont need worship. They just want to fulful their convenant

Mr Troll: ARE THE GODS SO LONELY , PETTY, JEALOUS AND NEEDY?

so much for the Omni Omni deities.

No the Gods are only trying to reclaim their land from Yahweh and Jesus.

These Philippines have a covenant with them and they must fulfill the covenant.

Africa is next, You atheist are spared but The Abrahamics who worship another foreign God shall see the wrath of THE GOD which their ancestors swore to

FOLYKAZE: Wow. This is classic bro. So you have this and kept it with you all this while? Adiye o kin je ifun ara won ke. Inu mi, inu e omo iya.

Really sorry about the mistake I made in my previous post. I wrote Orunmila instead of Oranmiyan.

From the history I had, Ooni is not a direct son or descendants of sixteen children of Oduduwa. And this has caused controversy between the Alaafin and Ooni over superiocity. From what I was told, after the death of Oduduwa his son, Oranmiyan was invited to take over the job of his father, which was primarily ritual, as well as leader of Ile Ife. Oranmiyan refused because he had succeeded in building an economically viable place at Oyo Ile with administratively sound method of government around the Oyomesi council in chief and it would be very degrading to leave and move to Ile Ife to be involved in ritual daily sacrifices exercises. In the light of that assumptions Oranmiyan gave conditions that he must be buried at Ife to symbolize his right to Ife leadership. Ooni the assistant to Oduduwa in the day-to-day ritual sacrifice exercise continued with Odua’s job while he continued with supervision from Oyo Ile. It was that condition Ooni the son of the foreign pregnant woman that was captured during Oro festival and dedicated to the gods who was assisting Oduduwa continued the work of Oduduwa at Ife. This is the reason why Alaafin of Oyo will never accept Ooni of Ife as a king or a superior in any Yoruba gathering of Obas. During the reign of Oduduwa, there was no proper and possibily political structure. That was what Ooni continued when Oranmiyan declined the call but Ooni status was raised by the britain just like Alake of Egba was raised.

If the son of Oranmiyan (Eweka) and his descendants according to history continue to respect tradition and be buried at Ife or received blessing before being crowned then we can conclude that Ife is superior to Benin.

From my points, Ife is what knot Yoruba and Edo (Igodomigodo as you call it) people together. But looking prior to the days of Oba in benin, there are Ogiso (meaning kings from the sky). From the history I heard, Oduduwa was the royal son of the last Ogiso which Yoruba people believe came from the sky (relative to the meaning of Ogiso). And also it is believe that Oduduwa was from the east....benin is the east of Ife.

Yes I know that most stories tell us that Ooni is not a descendant of Oduduwa but he claims he is and seems to have a comprehensive and logical story to his defense. And he claims superiority over other Obas

But Alaafin of Ido(my village) is my king whom I would always pledge to. I know no Ooni of Ife but I have high respect for his throne as That is the same throne of Oduduwa.

Come to think of it, Oranmiyan is the king of Ife,Benin and Oyo. He set Oyo as the military and political capital of yorubaland and it stood for over 500 years until the Ilorin crises which saw Ibadan become the new capital. So if we are to place a vote on Alaafin Oyo or Ooni Ife, I am sure Alaafin would be victorious because of wat he has achieved and also being Oranmiyan's own state

I think the British have destroyed a lot of our traditions, Imagine Alake placed above Olowu(A descendant of Oduduwa).

It is the gods of their ancestors, gods of Philippines that is punishing them for worshiping Yahweh and Jesus.

It would soon get to Nigeria.

Repent Repent Repent and acknowledge the God of your land and God of your people

rafhell: does it mean that 90% of people in the state house are northerners

true, it seems not fair on South that many political advantages is given to the North

Eze Promoe: [color=crimson]God is a consuming fire, a pillar of cloud by the day and a pillar of fire by the night.
If God show himself on this earth, we may not all live to tell the story.
Ask the Israelites how it feels to hear directly from God. [/color]

why ask the Israelites? Why not ask ur people?

Ajibam: 1.christianity is not religion
2..I don't care how you view my post.
hear again..
the wrath of God is coming on all gentiles soon.

the Bible say,they will run under rocks and mountains and say fall on us,, so that we can hide from the lord's wrath,,but who can run from it?who can survive the wrath of God?..
only the bride redeemed by the blood and baptize in the name of Jesus Christ will be raptured and save from the wrath..


JESUS IS COMING SOON

You are a gentile to the Jews whether u like it or not, ur father is not a Jew, ur ancestors are not Jews.

The wrath of God is coming to u because u are a gentile. A non-Jew is wat a gentile is and that's wat u are.

Gentile flows through ur veins. And Yahweh hates all that are not Jews. Yahweh shall reject u on the last day but when u run to the God of ur father, he shall accept you for love and honor of duty which he has promised to ur fathers

aManFromMars: And you aren't a Gentile?

Don't mind the jewish slave, Ajibam as sold his birth rights and now disown his ancestors.

fadosky607: May God forgive u! U don't know wot u are saying and doing yet. So are u telling me that the almighty God wasn't known untill the Yoruba people came into existence? I don't need to emphasise his power to u. But I'd advice u don't challenge. The god u worship is but an insignificantly little film of dust in his sight. Just note that pls. Pharoah of Egypt challenged him and didn't end well.

Esu as already started work on u and no Jesus deliverance service can free u, only an apology will do

Did anyone ever tell u dat Yoruba are the first to know God?

Are u not the foolish Christians that say only Israel knew God

Infact no one can understand God, even in our spiritual forms God is still a complex figure to us.


Lol challenge Yahweh is exactly wat I want. come lemme organize a prolific Ogun priest against Any of ur pentecostal pastors or church bishops


Lol Orunmila is my God and he holds all intelligence of the universe, wat Yahweh doesn't know half of.

Pharaoh of Egypt had his fill with the 400years of suffering that Israel went through because Yahweh couldn't deliver his people on time

dalaman: I don't want your book, I just want your to explain it here. The Europeans conquered the Yoruba land with ancient guns that were poorly made against their wish. Remember at that time juju was the only thing that was available to the people at that time. If any of the things you are saying is true then you should be able to send a sms to any body here without using a phone or the other guy supporting you should be able to travel to England without using an airplane. I really want to know how effective these claims are. Why are they hidden if they are true? Why can't we use it to protect our selves or make our societies better? Why is it solely based on hear say?

You know nothing about British colonization of yorubaland

Guns? For wat? Did u hear of war between Yoruba and British?

nnofaith: lol! insult the ancastors ke! musky you must present a bottle of gin ASAP.



yeye! your ancestors are dead and long gone.

Doesn't mean I should disrespect them or let dumb retads insult them.

Eze Promoe: [color=crimson]The first rule of Christianity made by Christ which is also known as the Summary of the Law is found in Mark 12:28-31 and then other law of Christianity is found all through the gospel books.[/color]


[color=crimson]Another blatant lie.
Even before the advent of Christ on earth, tithe payment was a regular Jewish custom, which the Jews offer to God, involving one-tenth of their income. Read Malachi 3:10, you will see that tithe payment have been there even before the Romans knew what civilization was.[/color]


[color=crimson]Hehehe. Your lie tank is overflowing.
Sunday worship started in Corinth, a Greek city (1 Corinthians 16:2) [/color]


[color=crimson]Na wa for you o. When Jesus was about leaving the disciples on earth, he gave them the great commission to baptize in the name of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit (the Holy Trinity) - Matthew 28:19.
Maybe you meant to say that the word "trinity" was derived from a Latin word, and given to the Triad. [/color]


[color=crimson]Of course, it's not a hidden fact that the Catholics have immortalized Mary and made her look like a goddess.
Of course, Mary was a virgin and it was not the making of any Roman Catholics. (Luke 1:27-28)[/color]


[color=crimson]It would have sounded sane if you'd said that the Romans influenced Christianity very much and not that they own Christianity. Christianity is an institution of Christ.[/color]


[color=crimson]Aaron was a Jewish priest (Judaism) and Judaism have birth to Christianity. Christianity is more like a modification of Judaism.


PLEASE WHEN NEXT YOU WANT TO SPREAD SUCH LIES ONLINE, ALWAYS HAVE IN MIND THAT SOME LEARNED BIBLE SCHOLARS WOULD BE THERE TO HALT YOU.
Grace to you![/color]

Lol how ignorant of u

U use the same Bible that the Romans have modified.

Sundays has always been in worship day in Rome, when they claimed christianity they continued with their Roman tradition of worshipping on Sundays even tho the sabbath day is Saturday.

The Romans never carried any Jewish tradition with them, they didn't pay tithes to the church because of the Jews or Yahweh.

Church is not synagogue or temple of judaism.

The payment of tithes to the church was as taxes to the Roman government


And so wat if Aaron was a judaism priest? judaism not christianity so why look up to Aaron?
if u want to look up to judaism priest, u should better start offering burnt sacrifice to Yahweh

texanomaly: I don't believe in 'Hell' per se. No.

Wat kind of Christiana are u?

www.nairaland.com/1509799/only-fool-says-there-no

www.nairaland.com/1504695/why-believe-jesus

www.nairaland.com/1503699/christianity-things-arent-really-known

www.nairaland.com/1496957/jewish-messiah

www.nairaland.com/1482409/original-religion-jews

www.nairaland.com/1483214/should-read-religions

www.nairaland.com/1463158/aborisa-yoruba-religion

www.nairaland.com/1432236/reasons-why-yoruba-religion-aborisa

www.nairaland.com/1461403/what-does-he-save-u

Here are my best religious threads, feel free to dig in

FOLYKAZE: I am open to correction.

How can bini controll another terrain if

- they dont have relation with the people of the terrain.

- they do not own the terrain (without war)?

We are still on same thing.



Sango is different from Ajaokuta you know? But Sango is use for Ajaokuta. Same thing with Oduduwa....the human is different from that of the creation character.
Yoruba believe Oduduwa came from the sky. Historical relation states that Ogiso means kings from the sky. Bini is the east of Oyo....iwo orun.





And where did Eweka the first king of bini came from?

Why do you think there is disagreements between Ooni and Alaafin?

Well from the history I heard, Orunmila created Oyo-mesi but withdrawed to continue rituals in Ife. The britain made priest from Ife king. They were never king from the beginning.

Bini under the new dynasty of Eweka's descendants were powerful warriors who could even match Ancient Oyo.

They controlled many lands after defeating the indigenes, eg. Akure, Akoko, Owo and Eko. They planned on reaching Ekiti but Ekiti requested for Oyo's protection, Oyo made Ekiti it's own colony. Benin couldn't afford to fight with Oyo for many logical reasons.


Oduduwa(the human) might be different from Oduduwa(the Orisha) but it was believed that the Orisha owned The human and had come to claim the throne. it was a fulfillment of prophecy.


I think u are mixing "Oyo" with "Ile-Ife"

Oranmiyan left Ife for Uselu(Igodomigodo capital) and left there in anger re-naming it Ile-Binu/Ile-Ibinu.
it was when Oranmiyan got back from bini, he created Oyo. So Benin and Ife are older than Oyo. Benin kings don't even recognize Oyo, it's Ife they cared about because that's the ancestral home of the Oba of Benin

Bini call "Ife"- "Uhe" meaning source and they pagan religion is so similar to Yoruba

Enigma big liar, go read about the history of ur religion properly.

The Bible was compiled by Romans and modified by some other Romans who had claimed catholism

Romans were also the ones who compiled the Hebrew Bible and Tanakh(holy book of judaism)

Before the Romans the Torah was the only book Jews held in high esteem(even know they still do)

The Torah is believed by Jews to be Yahweh's direct message to Moses