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fadosky607: I think I don't need to have this conversation with u! My time is beta spent doing something reasonable... Peace man!

Yeah Something reasonable that you have never been privileged to do

Pls mods this should be in front page.
It's very important

new paparazzi: By this, are they saying creation is not real & evolution real?

Evolution is creation.

However, Don't get it twisted

So then who is your God? And makes u chosen?

^^^ Catholics would never check out the history of the church for fear of finding our conspiracy and lies

Pentecostal Christians would never check out the history of judaism and christianity beyond the catholics for they feel the Bible has all the Knowledge

Noble fada u are still a baby in religion and don't understand ur Bible.

Can u pls explain Ajule-Orun?

NativeBoy: Sorry I meant the Yoruba tradition equivalent of titans?

We have no titans in our spirituality

The Titans/Trolls and sky giants are only believed in Britannia, Scandinavia, Greek and neighboring areas

Such Creatures never appeared in West Africa

NativeBoy: And the equivalent of the Titans in Greek tradition would be?

Trolls in Norse

NativeBoy: So each god in the Yoruba pantheon has an equivalent in that of other cultures?

Who is Odin's counterpart in Yoruba tradition?

The understanding of nature forces depends on the people.

Most gods have counterparts in every other Culture but Not all.

Thor(Norse) is absolutely Sango
Odin(Norse) could be Orunmila or Obatala
3Zeus(Greek) could be Sango or Obatala
El Shaddai(Canaanite) could be Oke
Loki(Norse) best fits Eshu
Mercury(Greco-Roman) is absolutely Esu
Aphrodite(Greek) is absolutely Osun
Ares(Greek) is Ogun
Yaw(Canaanite) could be Olokun
Morpheus(Greek) is Sigidi

emotional: You nailed it,a kind of representation, this 'Ikin or Opele' are they (like)palm-kernel? Often Kept in a white plate or bowl,pls I realy need clarification,is it compulsory for Orunmila/Ifa child(seeker)to have this kind of(Ifa representation? Not to derail d thread do I drop my mail? Thanks once again

No it's not compulsory, only those initiated into Ifa priesthood must have it, only them can understand it

FOLYKAZE: Sango of Yoruba is Amahodia of Igbo and Thor of greek. Pagan is universal. Nothing like stronger or strongest

Norse not Greek

The Vikings (major parts of present Germany) were a nation devoted to Thor

Big Francis.

Wat stops certain individuals from recalling the events of their after life?

uzoexcel: Follow d visa thread...I believe d link has been pasted earlier

Ok will do

joel lala: The funny thing is that the people that tend to know much about catholicism are not even catholics..

Because most of them don't see the need to acquire knowledge.

Pentecostals are the worst

aManFromMars: The absence of an object is an image of the object.

He needs deliverance

No Surgery, He might have a bone in his brain

Joshthefirst: idolatry according to the bible is painting a false image of God.

Atheism paints an image of a God that's not there at all. That does not exist.
Or that has no sense of moral responsibility and judgement so they can live comfortably and enjoyably with their evil deeds.

Gbam!
This qualifies Christianity to the list if Idolatry

NativeBoy: Again, you're free to say what you want but without scholarly evidence, you cannot hope to convince anyone.

Since I don't think you'll produce any such evidence to back up your claims, I'll go another route. Let's assume that as you have said we should return to our own gods and abandon the Judeo-Christian God, then I'd like to know, whose god is stronger?

We are on the internet and the highest I can do for u is to post links, which you can get urself.

Most of wat I know I beyond Internet links and such links can't be enough to convince u because u have been sucked in the judeo-Christian thing for long.

I am not saying christianity is evil, like u people claim all other religions are.

I am not saying Christianity isn't good for the soul, but u people claim only Christianity can save a soul.

If you need evidence search the internet, it would be a good start, then speak with high placed Rabbi in the Jewish Temple in Israel. Go around the middle east learning from intelligent folks who knows about history and spirituality.

However if u still need be to post links I would.


The most high God is not bias and is rational and just in creation. You cannot assume One God is stronger than the other, they all have their duties and elements to control

OLAADEGBU: Without the Law of God (the Ten Commandments) humanity predictably strays into "idolatry" (atheism is a form of idolatry). The First of the Ten Commandments addresses this with "I am The Lord your God. You shall have no other God's before Me." When Israel waited at the foot of Mount Sinai for Moses to receive that Law, like a car with a blowout of a front tire at 70 MPH, they veered off the right path into idolatry, and the immediate result was that they took their clothes off and partied. Thus we have Law-less modern America. They have lost sight of the moral Law, have predictably taken off their clothes and partied. If we believe that there's no Law, then there's no morality. However the Law was written in stone for a reason. It's permanent. It will be the unwavering standard of judgment on Judgment Day (see Romans 2:12, James 2:12) and will justly damn those who transgress its perfect precepts.

www.needgod.com

u so gullible
Atheism is Idolatry
u dont even knw wat Idolatry means

I am interested in Schooling in Germany, But wat is the procedure? and wat are the visa requirements for student visa?

NativeBoy: Because you say something is the absolute truth doesn't make it so. You have made claims but have not substantiated them. You would have to reconcile the monotheism of Judaism with the polytheism of the Canaanite religions. You would have to reconcile the concept of the Judeo-Christian God with that of any other religious tradition actually.

You can't dismiss my previous post since I presented the argument from God's perspective. Now from the Israelites perspective, they might may have been fully convinced that everything was fine and that they were progressing, but that's not how God saw it. This is clearly not the case with Nigeria.

I dont beg u to believe, I only Beg u to make ur own research. read about Semitism, canaanite religion and history of Judaism.

Judaism was crated by Moses for Israel to worship the god of their ancestors- El shaddai(god of mountains and frutfulness) There is a small thread on NL about this, but am sure u would discard it because u are yet to be enlightened.

U should know that Israel is Semitic and Abraham lived among cannanites there by recognizing their Gods, and El shaddai favored him. El shaddai became the God of Israel through Jacob.

Assyrians are Abrahams people, As they are also Arphaxadians and the religion of Assyria is so similar to Arabs, who are also descendants of Abraham.

Abraham worshipped Naana- A god in Assyrian spirituality. Naana is the equivalent of Allah in Arabian Spirituality(Before ISLAM)
when Abraham migrated to Cannaaland, He adopted Canaanite spirituality and his Patrone was El shaddai

many years later Moses creates a Religion were El shaddai, whom he called Yahweh is The Only God Of Israel and Their Lands(which they had conquered from the canaanites)

However Israel still recognized these other Gods and went back on their covenants a few times.

By the Time of the 2nd Temple after Israel's return from Babylon, The high priests had already forgotten all about their Spirituality and thought El shaddai was the only God of the universe

Mr Troll: it is Yoruba Advanced Science.

Key word being Yoruba Advanced

yes of course. Igbo and Other ethnic groups have theirs. It is nt as if only Yoruba knew the secrets of the world

Am out

Eze Promoe: [color=crimson]Didn't I answer your question[/color]

No u didnt. If u say Israel knows God, wat about ur Ethnic group? Igbo?

NativeBoy: Define progress. But let's say for the sake of argument that you are referring to affluence, wealth, technology, etc. Again, God has given man the gift of a mind therefore he can build a functioning society and can continue to advance it. God doesn't warn Israel concerning idolatry because it would halt progress, idolatry would lead first to spiritual poverty and then it would lead to societal collapse. .

Going by this we should dismiss this your previous post

NativeBoy: You are making a false assertion that the reason for Nigeria and Africa's plight is their forsaking of their gods. If it were so, those tribes that still cling to the traditional way should be far better off than the rest which is clearly not the case. The black man's plight is foremost caused by his lack of identity; he lacks the knowledge of who he is because he doesn't know where he came from. He doesn't know his history.

NativeBoy: God warns Israel about idolatry because the other gods were no gods at all. They are the creation of men. The work of men's hands.

I always laugh when Abrahamics like u think u know God, or Know anything about His firstborns

1. The God of Israel is Yahweh/El shaddai- God of Mountains
2. HE is not the Supreme God. he has a father "El Eyon" who is the Most High God of major Semitic-Cannaanite Spiritualities.
3. Other Gods are Siblings of Yahweh in Spritual cosmology and Universal Theology of The Canaanites
4. Idols are not Gods. Gods are not Idols
5. Men create Idols But The Most High Creates Gods

these points would probabl;y not make sense to u but its the absolute truth. It is left for u to believe or not

However Do not spread foolishness on this thread and NL at large

Lets keep this thread going
Am also interested In learning about Education in Germany

wow! so Jesus is God, and God works for Jesus

Christainity has a way of damaging the brain

Pagan The Gods have began to work on the mods. This thread reaching FP is a start

gratieao: Even Yoruba poo makes front page this days....
Bamta drummer ko' Abiriba dance ni'

The thread was created by a Non-Yoruba
so if u see yoruba as poo, well maybe everything is poo to u. even the food u eat is poo

joel lala: And the jewish traditions are? Try to elaborate more here..thanks

Pentacostal churches would always preach against pagan Gods, And discriminate against anything Non-Jew
pentecostal churches pay tithes as a jewish tradition is not about Christainity
They lay much emphasis and importance on The OT
They regard Judaic prophets eg Moses, Elijah etc as Saints of Their Religion(indirectly)

Mr President: I have tried to show you the origin and religion of the Yoruba through the custodians of her history- the Ogboni. Why would the Ogboni specify non-idolatrous belief in God as their most fundamental prerequisite for acceptance and initiation if this was not the default belief of the Yoruba?

Why did Rev. Ogunbiyi, the founder of ROF not renounce christianity after he came into 'enlightenment'?

The origin of Oduduwa is no longer a mystery. Oduduwa was the leader of an idolatrous set of Israelites that were exiled by the most High God into the wilderness of Africa. When he got to Africa, he met Setilu (Agboniregun) who taught him Ifa and further cemented his idolatry and rebellion against The Most High God. Bear in mind, as I have earlier said, that Oduduwa may just be the code-name for a mass of people and not a singular individual. The Middle East is the cradle of humanity, it is where men spread to the world.

I have shown you that it is part of Biblical prophecy that the true Israel will lose their identity.
I also showed you that the people who call themselves Jews or Israelis today are impostors.

But you have remained adamant, belligerent, stiffnecked and reprobate. This is part of biblical prophecy too.
You have also been rude, uncouth, and foul-mouthed, against the very ethos of omoluabi.

The true seeker, the 'Olufokansin' will connect the dots.

Your unfounded hatred of Christians has blinded you to the truth. Take care to note that I have not called you into Christianity, I have simply shown you that you are the lost sheep of Israel to whom Yeshua was sent, to come and show the way back to the father.

I have preached the gospel to you but you have elected to continue in idolatry. I have shown you your divine royal heritage, but U have chosen to continue to be base.

Perhaps, you are not even Israel. Perhaps you are the incarnate of one of the conquered Africans Oduduwa met at Ile-ife...who knows, This may also explain your obstinacy.

Israel will be redeemed in judgement, in fire.

Isaiah 4:3-4
3 And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:
4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.


You were warned. The gospel was preached to you.



As for you, folake the demonic, continue misquoting sacred Scripture, pretending to be intelligent.

Your recompense will come. It will not tarry. It was promised

You were warned.

Mr man, u are a complete Jewish slave, there's nothing in ur head, ur brain has been polluted immensely with brainwash and mental slavery. Only Esu can save u from ur problem

U say ogboni doesn't do idolatry-.wat is idolatry?
I'll u show that Ogboni does idolatry

Lol Anybody who can't see the fraud of christianity cannot leave christianity. His enlightenment was flawed

Oduduwa is not Aaron, the last idolatrous leader of Israel that I can remember is Aaron. Israelis are not into idols because Moses claimed Yahweh was against it. They instead used the mountains around their cities as idols.

No one can rebel against The most high God, And The most high god doesn't interfere with human lives, that's why he has children and messengers

Lol Oduduwa a code name for numerous migrates. So Numerous people were crowned 1st king(s) of Ile-Ife

Imagine u point to the land of ur masters as the cradle of humanity. I say Africa is the cradle of humanity.

In Africa were the first evolutionary process on Humans achieved.


Look at this hypocrite talking about true seeker, are u a true seeker? You dat has sold ur live to a foreigner for free


Lmao so yeshua didn't really come for the world, he came only for the lost sheep of Israel. you the first Christan to actually admit this on NL

One thing u should know is that Orunmila worshiper's don't need idols, Ifa represents everything about him and even more. Why keep an idol?
Personally I have never seen Any Orunmila Idol, Orunmila walks with all his devotees, Idols are unnecessary and I think not allowed(could be wrong sha)

Of course, Iam not Israel, I am Yoruba Ekiti.

so u exactly worships God and who doesnt?