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Christians free urselves from mental slavery and stupidity

Going by wat u posted, Achieving Heaven on earth would be very difficult.
This Islam and Christianity as Brought nothing but Hatred, Division, Discrimination and Stupidity to the. As tribals we must serve our various ethic groups, show love to the world, and be ourselves. Being a traditionalist is not being backward but being urself.

As humans living a world that has gone through so much religious conflicts since the raise of Two religions stated above. We most try to make peace as it seems we are the ones caught in the middle, regardless of our diverse tribes or ethnics we should come together in the spirit of Africanism.

Be our brothers keeper, regardless of the different process of rituals and worship. We have the same spiritual mind set.

We as traditionalist have been abused in our own lands, we are the real sons of the soil, who have identified ourselves to our various ethnic groups and we should seek to claim our lands, as any non traditionalist is an outsider.

We have to set an example for the Two religions to see, we have to show them that we are Blessed by the gods of the Land they live in.

We are masters of ourselves and owe no sire to Arabs, Italians or Jews

We are recognised by our ancestors and should learn from them. Using their mistakes to correct ourselves

May the gods bless Africa. And gave us the strength and Wisdom to liberate our people from mental slavery.

mumumugu: Immediately they die, that death age will remain constant just like vampire

pls this is not a movie set

noblefada: No God created man to live for ever Gen 2:16-17 NET 16 Then the LORD God commanded the man, “You may freely eat fruit from every tree of the orchard, 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will surely die.” man would have lived forever if he didn't disobey the above instruction

So if man lost immortality cus of eating dat fruit, how can u explain other animals case of death

noblefada: Actually the mystery of that part of genesis is very interesting and the explanation is right there in the bible! that's why I just laughed when atheists, that know next to nothing about the bible come here n start bragging, I know straight away its due to ignorance.
Let me give u another clue, first I said man was created to live forever right? what if I now tell u that Adam & Eve actually the live so millions of years b4 the fall? (remember the clue is in the bible)

this comment contradicts the competence of ur Bible

italo: There's no need to shun them. If you do not want to meet with them regularly, you can politely tell them and I believe they will be reasonable enough to adjust to that.

Some months back, I had them trying to preach to me every weekend. I always received them well. I even offered them snacks and drinks. Bear in mind that i am Catholic and JWs have very little regard for Catholicism. So they were shocked that i always received them well and talked to them politrly. We discussed, argued etc but always in a spirit of love.

I do not accept their doctrine but I love them for the passion and energy with which they work for God...even though I think their teaching is wrong.

Love them. We are all God's children.

why dont u accept their doctrine? isnt it the same Yeshua u all serve?

JMAN05: what biblical prove does this bible scholars have? the bible didnt tell us how long it took God to create the earth?

pls, are u a christian?

noblefada: Good, its started counting after the fall, when man disobeyed, and Adam was already adult n married to eve. So when u want start making ur calculation take that into consideration.
Let me help u a bit, man was initially created to live forever. So how old do u think the earth is

Man was never suppose to live forever. our home is heaven. our llives are just borrowed

tintingz: Why should i keep shut?!

I quoted what is your bible, Jesus said he will reject those who called him Lord Lord and who are the people that equal Jesus with God are they not the christians, the verse is boldly written in english.

Muslims believe in ONE GOD not three gods, they believe in all prophet including Jesus son of Mary(as), I don't know how believing muslims will not make heaven @OP

Thats where Christians fail. honestly they downgrade Almighty God, by putting Yeshua in the same Level as He. God actually manifest himself in everything(human inclusive). our very life is given my God, the breath of life is not just some mere breeze but part of Gods essence, God is in us all but we most first look into oursleves. No one needs any Jew to get closer to God.

not sure if souls have human appearance but wat I know is that everyones soul existed before they came to life, souls/spirits have known each other from the spirit world already. Re-incarnations happen and so a persons spirit might come back to life not long after he dies. Life is re-occurring, and more souls are sent here on earth almost every second. So if u die and expect to see one of ur loved relatives u might be disappointed to find out that he's back on earth as another life. There's no optimum age for the afterlife, every soul appears exactly how it was created from the beginning, no aging in appearance.

haibe: 70% is too small now, why not 100%

Mtchew i don't know who made you God to judge the amount of people that will be saved.

am just using ur bible to assimilate. Broad is the way to hell .

Jehovah witness are the only ones that follow the Bible up word by word, but place more emphasis on the NT. thats true Christianity.

haibe: Just keep shut if you don't understand the bible ok? Its the pride you people have that is making them say you will all go to hell, mtchew.

dont tell him to shut up. he's only saying the right thing. 70% of Christians would most likely be rejected by Yeshua

kcpragmatik: Bt come to think of it....what is the essence of swearing on a "holybook" when I have a CONSCIENCE

good point but u see we humans think we are smart and thats why we need such things as swearing on a holy book, or swearing on ogun's iron. its suppose to create fear and even if u give a false statement the spiritual force behind that swearing is to pass swift judgement on u.

Compliance: you are one of the most shallow Christian I have ever come across...you don't understand what it means to be born again... that you are born again doesn't mean you can't mistakenly sin...there is a difference between a sinner and a Christian that sinned mistakenly. really wish to have a vocal chat with you to help you correct some doctrinal errors. God bless you.

the bible makes it clear that if u have christ u are free from sin cause u are already washed clean wit the blood of Yeshua and he carries all ur sins. so by the words of the bible, u are born again in Yahweh and we all know Yahweh doesnt sin, he makes the rules. so if an acclaimed born again commits sin, it only means u were never born again. And theres no such thing as a mistaken sin. we all have the knowledge of good and bad so if a christian sinned it only means he never had christ, or isnt strong in christ, afterall Yeshua never sinned.

OLAADEGBU: Where and when did I say that?

not directly. but thats wat I think u meant. cause u say yeshua has washed ur sins and he is the one that carries all ur sin and am pretty sure u were christian from birth. so if yeshua has been caring ur sins for u dat means u actually have no sin to ur name

OLAADEGBU: Both the Old and the New Testaments explain how God Himself provided our way of escape from death: "But God commends his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us" (Romans 5:8 ). "For he has made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him" (2 Corinthians 5:21). "But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all" (Isaiah 53:5,6).

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so u mean to tell me that: u wont die, u are sin free-meaning u have never sinned

why are u people only using the jewish myth here? u think other ethnic groups dont have their view on our the world started

OLAADEGBU: Read this story and see how this applies to you:

Some years ago, Southern California police carried out an interesting "sting" operation. They had a list of thousands of wanted criminals who had somehow evaded jail. Instead of risking their lives by going and attempting to arrest each one, they sent all the criminals a letter telling them they had won a large amount of money in a drawing. The police put signs and banners on a building, and placed balloons and even a clown on the outside to create a festive atmosphere to welcome the "winners." As each criminal entered the building, he heard music and celebration. He was then ushered into a room where he smiled as his hand was shaken. The facial expression changed from one of joy to unbelief as each was told, "Congratulations—you have just won time in prison!" Dozens of criminals made their way through the main doors, were arrested and ushered out the back door. It was interesting that many of these lawbreakers declared, "I thought it was a sting operation!" but their greed wouldn't let them stay away.

If you die in your sins, you will be caught in the ultimate sting and end up in God's prison, without parole.

and wat exactly is ur definition of sin?

The problem with all this low life Christians is that want to place Jesus in the same level as God. They believe Jesus is God

And u pls answer the 10 questions I brought to the table? Plus the big one it self. wat does he save u from?

Chibuebem: You say you cannot know God without firstknowing yourself. You are wrong.
Jesus said:
John 10:
39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

He also said
Matthew 16:
24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. 25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. 26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

I've seen this fulfilled in my life. I found my self and God's purpose when I acknowledged that it's all about him and his plan. Life is about God you see

Jesus at the center of it all

Just wanted to point it out.

All the points u gave are related to selflessness and putting God first. Am talking about knowing ur subconscious, wat u really have inside of u. God is there inside u but u must find him only in urself first and know his will, then other people of wisdom can help u interpret what u think u know and teach u more about God.

Ngokafor: ....why not marry your mum and be done with it?..i can assure you that no one will miss you...blabbing like you are the only boy/guy that loves his mum...better grow up.

bla bla. Well u people are just saying ur own. Everyone is just saying I should grow up but I tell u. If a woman does for her husband as much as any loving mother as done for her son. Then I would support that 3rd point

Pagan 9ja may Orunmila bless u with more wisdom.

nonso686: @PAGAN: thanks; I am igbo, how do i contact the spiritual force? pls i need this knowledge!

nice. embrace urself wit pride. I hope u continue in this path u want to follow.

OLAADEGBU: That picture answered the OP in a few words. Our Lord Jesus didn't come to set up a religion, He came to die and rise again so as to connect us directly to God. He came to set up a living relationship with God the Father without us getting religious. He is the only One who died and rose from the dead so that we can have eternal life with God.

So that means what Christians of today do is wrong

OLAADEGBU: And that you cannot argue about. And when that time comes would you be prepared to meet your Maker?

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That's my greatest prayer tho. I pray to have accomplished all my missions on earth. Cause u can only be prepared to make him when u have completed all u came to do

Chidough: The bible gives us a spiritual account of the earth.it is not a scientific account.meanwhile those that wrote the bible did not hav enough knowledge as science has now.they wrote according to the amount of knowledge they had and how they perceived their environment.

that means the story of the holy spirit inspiring the Bible is a complete lie. That or the holy spirit is useless

italo: You dont want me to change topic but you want me to discuss the topic with someone who doesnt know a thing of the topic or what he is talking about, abi.

You said with all arrogance and ignorance that the Bible didnt mention the Holy Spirit being on earth until Acts. We have shown you two out of many verses that show that you are like the 'empty vessel' making much noise.

Please, just shut up.

bottomline ur religion is useless

Chibuebem: Human beings are the reason for naijas problems. Human beings have the same nature and character everywhere. Sin you see, is the problem. some People in nigeria think they can decieve God, or think he's their goodluck charm.
On the other hand, blaming religion for nigerias problems is terrible. There are non-religious countries today, like north korea. They have problems too. Sin is the problem. Corruption in the high places and in the low. Greed. Truly Knowing God will take sin away.
Simple.
Jesus was against religious bigotry and ritualistic worship. He advocated knowledge of the true God. He was against the corruption of the roman officials, the religious hypocrisy of the pharisees, etc, etc. Jesus did not come to start a religion. He came to save people from sin. He is the answer to naijas problems. He came to reveal God. Once you take Jesus out. It all falls apart. Don't ask stupid questions. We've been through this before.
Jesus is the answer for the world today. Not religion, not atheism. Not deism. Jesus. Knowing God is deeper than a form of worship. Jesus is the way. There are witnesses through the ages of man's history.

every religion of the world knew God before Jesus even came and his apostles decided to destroy the world

noblefada: This is the simple reason why we say the book is not for you, The Holy Spirit is mentioned severally in the book and He is even credited has the author, but you say categorically He doesn't exist! who should we believe you or the bible?

believe the one that makes more sense

italo: You come here arrogantly and accuse people of all sorts. Meanwhile you dont know what you're talking about. Why dont you just shut up about what you dont know? You dont even know the difference between passover and pentecost and you're trying to teach us about the Bible.

Psalms 51:11 - Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.

My advice: SHUT UP...until you know what you're talking about.

so my mistake for using Passover instead of pentecost means I don't know the texts of ur Bible? just don't try to change subject here. the holy spirit didn't inspire the Bible.