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Chibuebem: yep

so u have never committed one of the following: lied, stolen, fornicated, raped, or killed?

Chibuebem: do you have the nature of eternal life? Are you free from sin?

no human can be free from sin. we can only balance sin/evil with good, in other to achieve our destiny.
The next thing u will say is that with Jesus u can be free from sin. But answer this question, since u became a Christian(u were probably born Christian) have u been free from sin?

Animals have souls, and just like humans. Everything with consciousness is liable for judgement. And they also reincarnate.

This might be the last independence celebration of Nigeria :/

Image123: This is good news. You are saying that you do not believe that Adam had no knowledge of good and evil? That's what i am saying, i don't believe Adam was ignorant. He was a most intelligent man.
You behave much like Adam. Who are the jews that wrote the Bible? Were you the one that fought for your nation's independence? i'll like to meet you if so.

you asking an annoying rhetorical question. Pls read ur holy book well

Chibuebem: do you have eternal life sir? Eternal life in its real sense is not just living forever. There are characteristics and properties that go with it. The nature of eternal life, God's nature, cannot be isolated from his indestructible life and its power.

of course I have eternal life, given to me by Eleda mi, oba-orun, Olodumare. And I would surely return to him with free conscience of my fulfilled destiny.

Emusan: OK Sir I have heard you. ....let's pay attention @Op.....heh

Lol....you're angry because I'm using SHALOM.,.wonder shall never end. Just try to bear it with me pls.


Shalom!

it's really non of my business but it shows ur mis-identify and slave mindedness

Chibuebem: they died spiritually and physically. They lost eternal life.

well maybe Adam and Eve did but Sango, Oranmiyan and all my ancestors have eternal life.

Tinyemeka: Confusionist. Where is it stated that angel exclusively means messenger? Or messenger, angel?

it's simple knowledge. If u are a true Christian u should do research about the origin of ur evil religion.

Malawian: you are very dumb. those names predated the formation of any tribe named as the "hebrews" and i am a catholic not one of those brainwash pupils looking up to their daddy G.Os.

what is ur prove That those names were in existence before the formation of the Hebrew language? When was the Hebrew language formed? I hope u realise that Abraham spoke Hebrew or pre-Hebrew. He saw angels physically but didn't know their names, he wished not for their names but just called them Lord. I don't care if u are catholic or orthodox u are still a dummy.

Chibuebem: sorry sir, he lied. He said: "thou shalt not surely die"

so did they die?

wizzmc: [b]A Muslim man in Egypt killed his wife because she was reading the Bible and then buried her with their infant baby and an 8-year old daughter. The girls were buried alive! He then reported to the police that an uncle killed the kids. 15 days later, another family member died. When they went to bury him, they found the 2 little girls under the sand -ALIVE! The country is outraged over the incident, and the man will be executed.. The older girl was asked how she had survived and she says:-'A man wearing shiny white clothes, with bleeding wounds in his hands, came every day to feed us. He woke up my mom so she could nurse my sister,' she said. She was interviewed on Egyptian national TV, by availed Muslim woman news anchor. She said on public TV, 'This was none other than Jesus, because nobody else does things like this!'
Muslims believe Isa (Jesus) would do this, but the wounds mean He really was crucified, and it's clear also that He is alive! But, it's also clear that the child could not make up a story like this, and there is no way these children could have survived without a true miracle. Muslim leaders are going to have a hard time to figure out what to do with this, and the popularity of the Passion movie doesn't help! With Egypt at the centre of the media and education in the Middle East , you
can be sure this story will spread. Christ is still turning the world upside down! Please let this story be shared. The Lord says, 'I will bless the person who puts his trust in me.' Jeremiah 17.
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this is the kind of war between both religions...bringing nothing but Evil to the hearts of Men.

zealed64: @sanniemoe tnks for the reply..

I see, christianity and islam are just alike... Just as god, jesus, hell, satan, angel gabriel,.. etc are all evident in the bible, same it is in koran but with different names...funny enough "satan/shaytan" ..really?(coincidence?? HELL NO!)...

yet we ve outright 'bloody' disunity between these two popular religion(especially fanatics).

RELIGION IS MESSED UP! D,ANM THE AUTHOR'S OF BIBLE AND KORAN! THEY CREATED UNDYING HATE AMONGST OUR SELF'S AND IS BEING PROPAGATED BY THE SHALLOW MINDED INDIVIDUALS..

WORSE PART OF IT ALL, THEIR ARE ISLAMS AGAINST ISLAMS..CHRISTIANS AGAINST CHRISTIANS....WHY IF YOU ASK ME-MISINTERPRETATIONS OF KORAN/BIBLE AND DOCTRINES PREACHED BY IMAMS/PASTORS.

recently some bunch of criminals(boko haram) went to a boarding school in yobe state shoot sporadically at poor children sleeping(defenseless)..oh my goodness... And the ba,stards will justify & align their action to a fictional book koran..claiming they re doing the work of god/allah?..

#TEAMDOTHERIGHTTHING f,uck religion fanatics!

you are so right. That's why it's good to keep a balance

Yield: I've nothing else to say. Oppypoppy has said it all.

I guess the thing is u can never find husband material, cause u are far far from wife material.

Emusan: I know sir, but Jesus is still alive today so everything has cleared by me.



Thanks Sir:

Who am I to raise myself above other religion?
But the truth still remain; Jesus has come and died, and went back to where He was before, it's let for poeple to make their choice.

So using Shalom now is making you angry.....I'm sorry for that but it simply means " Peace"

Shalom!

Jesus is still alive today , I believe that but so is Sango and all my ancesstors.

Jesus came and died, went back to where he came from. Good point. But that applies for every living entity. We all have duties to play here on earth, we would all definitely go back to where we came from, just like Jesus, whether u believe in the Jew or not, it doesn't matter.

And yes am angry at the use of that word because u rather than use a Hebrew word as ur signature prefix, u should use a word of ur own language

Dannylux: long story. Jesus is no angel.
The word of God is deeper than it appears to be. Misinterpretation is inevitable.

the will of God is known by every man, it's in our subconsciousness. it's a simple thing to do, no confusion but u people have to realise that u are making no sense with Christianity. All those who have looked inside of their subcounsciousness can achieve true knowledge of God, what most Christians do is follow ur deceptive pastors, and that leads to even more slavery attitudes.

Malawian: the names are divine names, given by God almigthy and Not Hebrew names.

and that is wat ur pastor tells u? U most be a dummy without cause for knowledge. How can u say Michael, Gabriel, Uriel are not HEBREW names? Wat of Eli, Elijah, Elisha? These names only have meaning in Hebrew and the so called angels are known only by hebrews. Am sure u would say "Jesus" was a name given my God. u Better seek knowledge, this christianity promotes stupidity.

Emusan: Yea! All started with our Fathers who live right from when human race begins.....I mean religion.



Don't be shocked with my point here, if Christianity died today that'd be the end of the world....



People of ages have known God exists but Christ only came to redeem us from death caused by First Man.



No problem, I just always praye for them so that God can shine His light on them. Like I always say if not that God has revealed HIMSELF to me I might be the one in position of LB or Ooman today.



OK!



Well to me oooo

Christianity is not even a "way of life" because it limited its everlasting reign (I mean life itself). I will only say you're right when you say is a "way to life etenal".

Way of life to me means a guide on how people should live their life" which many religion practice, and If this is true then the LAWs are Ok then but to God the case is differrent which has made Him sent a SAVIOUR.


Shalom!

every religion claims to be eternal, a continuous system of life, even Buddhism dat tries to end reincarnation, rather introduce reinvention. after being reinvented that's still not the end of Buddhism, as long as u have life u most seek knowledge. That's just a point to show that other religions have a more solid claim to eternal existence.

And what exactly do u people gain by raising urself above other religions? u are just a Jewish slave nothing more but probably something even less. Ur use of "shalom" proves alot

OLAADEGBU: It doesn't make any difference. He answers to both.

lol. So if ur real name was Johnson and I call u Fred u would answer?

OLAADEGBU: "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is no other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved" (Acts 4:12).

Every false religious expression is a proposal of darkness.

that's the same way I'll tell u that NO MAN NEEDS SAVING, we would all return to where we came from in the first place: HEAVEN

Yield: Gbam!!!

see this one looking for man that would put her equal or even above his mother. U Better be serious with urself, and live right. Only a man who's mother isn't as sweet as mine would put any other woman equal to her. So u should look forward to raising ur children with love and care for them like nothing else matters, stop dwelling on this husband material thing. Love, trust and understanding are the important things not the things on this list. It just shows how greedy young ladies can be

mecussey: i dont understand, if you believe that there is a God, then there must be satan the way bible stated. Infact, if there is Heaven then there must be Hell, otherwise, heaven will be invalid.

everyone is from heaven, heaven is our home. We are only here on a journey, giving to the world wat we have promised. the idea of evil being created by satan and his plan to over throw God is foolish. All energy, whether of the gods or of humans are derived from the Supreme Lord in what ever name u call him in ur religion(Yahweh,Jehovah, Olodumare, Brahma etc.) We have our destiny which is like a covenant with the world. it's ur duty not to back slide or break that covenant. While on earth believe it or not it's not necessary to honour God, or the gods but u need them to help u. There's two heavenly locations- one for those that accomplish their destinies the other for those that don't. The second one is more like a jail, ur punishment for not keeping ur covenant.

The devil is not responsible for evil, men are because we are suppose to give love. Our life should be all about love to make the world better. Love for God, Love for neighbours and love for self but evil happens when u love ur self more. Evil is part of Human nature, we tend to do bad things at times cause it's difficult to balance everything up at all times.

My conclusion is that: No satan, No eternal suffering. No one dares go against God.

okeyxyz: @PAGAN, @Uyi, @macof

I expect this sort of reaction from you guys. It's the normal reaction you get from a conventional minded person(the bible says carnal minded ). You minds have been trained to think in a linear, physical, scientific manner and you reject any other form of reasoning that does not fall in line. However, spiritual people like moi understand there are other forms of operations apart from what is physically/scientifically or conventionally acceptable.

Now conventional thinking tell us that if Mr-A was born before Mr-B, then Mr-A is older and deserves more respect than Mr-B right? But spiritual people know it is not necessarily so. Take the yoruba traditional regard for twins for instance, they know that though taiwo was born before kehinde, but actually kehinde is the older of the two, and that he(kehinde) sent taiwo to check-out the world first before he(kehinde) comes out. Nice!! init?? . Jesus also understood this principle when he said "before Abraham was born, I am.."(John 8:58) , and the people then thought him to be insane, just like you guys think I am insane by writing what I wrote (mehn!!, I'm on fire!! ). So the fact that one person or institution came before another does not necessarily mean it is more authentic than the later. It could be that the later sent the former to prepare the way for it's(the later) arrival. This principle is universal in all spheres of hierarchy, eg: You don't go to see the president directly, you must first go through his protocol officers, secretaries, security, etc. That you have seen these other officers first does not make them more authoritative than the president. This is how it is with spiritual matters too.

So pagans discovered science, mathematics, medicine, etc, I don't dispute this. My position is that these things must first be in place before the true christ doctrine(again, not conventional christianity, it seems you missed this emphasis in my second post) arrives.

I have a million more mysteries I could share with you guys, but you wouldn't understand them, they'd be foolishness to you. (Matthew 7:6, 1 Corinthians 2:14)

and who told u I don't believe in spirituality? Pls mr. Man ur points here are really irrelevant.
Christianity is supposed to be all about Salvation, u guys believe the world is an evil place, and only when u believe in Jesus can u make heaven. Some complete morons even refer to the dead Jew as God. Imagine the insult to my fathers personality, putting him on the same level as a common prophetic individual. I choose not to downgrade Jesus for I respect him and love his teachings, he lived a wonderful life of love which humans should imitate but saying his the only son of God, the only way to heaven is complete nonsense.

As everyone existed as a spiritual being before coming to earth so did Jesus. So his statement about him being before Abraham is no point to justify that other religions copy Christian doctrine and existed only to make way for christianity. I might as well have existed before Abraham, my soul has undergone numerous recycling and reincarnations. Or do u think God creates new souls everyday?

Every religion has what it's based on, it's purpose. Christianity-salvation(which churches don't preach anymore, it's all about casting out demons and praying for wealth and health). Buddhism-avoid suffering. Chinese religion- reunion with ancestors. Hinduism-reincarnation. Greek religion: pleasant life. Islam: paradise. Judaism- Aborisha-accomplishment of ones destiny. All these religions are of different purposes so how do they preach Christian doctrine? In fact no religion in the world agrees with christianity.

Consultville: No doubt Angel Michael. He is the Arch Angel, please Jesus is not an angel, He is the Son of the Most High God, its a divine mystery, a canal minded can't comprehend

All angels are sons of the most high.

mecussey: physics had explained all these, and that is the only way life will exist successfully. I think God created the devil so that life will work out. There is also equal and opposite force pulling our planet towards the sun and away from the sun. Exactly why our planet remained in its path otherwise, it for don crash. Imagine life without death, male without female, health without sickness, light without darkness, e.tc. The negative is just their to balance the positve. There is God and there is Satan but for atheist calling it energy, thats ur own description. It could be something else.

there's no Satan, no one dares rebel against God. the concept of satan only exist in the minds of Men

direct this questions to African Christians and Muslims. I used to hate everything African before, I was a total brainwashed fool- couldn't speak Yoruba, didn't even have the accent to say the words I knew properly, hated Adire and all native wears, hated African music, hated African religions I thought they were devil worshipers. But all that ended when I went back to my home town for the first time in 8years, I began to speak Yoruba by force cus all those old men and women didn't understand English. My trip to Ekiti that year, made me realise that nothing could be better than being A Yoruba African. I went to Osun state after that to learn more about Yoruba history, I got invited to Osun shrine, and then my interest in Yoruba religion started, I began to ask questions, read books and met with Orisa Osun worshipers. I came to the conclusion that Christianity and Islam are enemies of Africa- these religions make u think ur people are not people of God, that only them are destined for heaven, and unless u believe what they believe u go to hell.

Nmeri17: When i see comments like the ones im seeing here, How can i not be grateful to God for opening my eyes to see whats so hard for u guys. I mean, is it really this hard to JUST BELIEVE whatever the bible says Why not drop whatever it is you think you know and believe. Would an ordinary fairy tale book as you call it have lasted all these years without getting lost in history <

Journals of Aristotle, are very much Available in this time. Btw He lived before Jesus. So if wat is freaking u is how the Bible has lasted many years, then u are really dumbing urself up here. A book that has gone through so many changes, translations, corruptions etc.

nathdim: look at the names of the angels angel Michael angel Raphael angel Gabriel angel castell e.t.c why is there no angel babatunde angel chinedu angel ekaite why is it only the white man names dat god knows as angel

those names were given by men, and cause those men spoke Hebrew, the names are Hebrew names. Everyone on this thread, I would like to give one angel this name; Omolorun

Taekwondo: One might be tempted to say Satan but Michael has giving him a tough time if not defeated him before.
There is no angel called Selena. All angels must have el at the end. El means from God. Even satans real name wasn't lucifer. It was satniel. E.g. Raphael- healing from God.
Again the seven thunders that roared were the 7 buildings that dropped in sept 11. The woman standing on water, on ten horns with 7 spikes on her head and book in her hand, who pointed right hand to heaven was the statue of liberty. Look @that statue.
Also, false prophet was the police of the world who claims to do Gods work n whose moto is in God we trust but goes behind to legalize abortion, euthenasia, homosexuality etc.
Also the beast who rose from the sea was different from other kings, tried to change the set of times, disrespected the religion of his ancestors etc
Obama was born in Hawaii which is in the sea. He's the first black ruler amongst group of white rulers hence diff from previous kings, change the set of times his slogan change we can believe in, disrespect d religion of ancestors his fathers were muslim he claims christian.
Back to Angels there are cadres of angels. 7 cadres. Theses cadres are headed by archangels called princes. Only the archangels have seen God (read Tobith). Gabriel heads Cadre one. All messages come from here. Raphael heads cadre 3. Uriel whom I've met on 3 occassions heads cadre 5. Michael is the strongest Angel who heads cadre 7. Jesus the true son of God is considered the prince of princes. He heads and orders all archangels and is truelly son of the most high.
You can't judge ur superior. So for God to say man will judge the Angels means by the grace of God man can acheive greater heights than the angels (satan inclusive) if he discoveres himself.
I guess I'm out of time but if you want to know more send me an email and I'd glad reply or ask me to paste more. I can explain revelations to all as I see in this forumn many have it all twisted.

see as this one is writing as if he knows everything, he's even requesting for email msgs for more info all the names of angels u know were given by men, so wat if I name one Selena? Or even OmoOlorun. Abi u think these angels(if they exist) won't have names in other languages.

prettyrosefave: Jesus Christ is not an angel please. No angel is greater than the other but they are assigned duties specifically, like angel gabriel is the head messenger angels, angel Michael is the head of warring angel. Lucifer (devil) was the head of heaven band (singers) before pride was found in him.

as someone explained. they are created equally, but with specified duties. ie, for war, delivering messages, singing et al. no one is more powerful, bible did not mention that one is more powerful and the other is not. they are all servants of God.

this guy is confused he says they are equal here.

however, if you read the book of isaiah and revelation, you will see that the bible talks more about how God created Lucifer, bible calls him angel of light, beautiful, so we can say that he is more power according to bible description but we thank God for the victory on the cross of calvary. With Jesus in your life, angel are your servants, they deliver messages to you from God to go to war for you, though you cant order them arroud, they are subject to God not to you, so if you need help, all you ask is from God, Oh Lord, send your angels to guard me, to fight for me, to do this do that.

i pray God will help us to understand.

and here he says Lucifer is stronger, And who told u that u have to have Jesus in ur life before u can request help from heavenly beings?

God2man:


Mr.satan does not exist. The name of Jesus is not suppose to be this or that.

Why are you making research on the name of Jesus? I guess to prove a point that the name is corrupted?

wait so now Jesus's name isn't relevant anymore? Lol

I research to gain knowledge which u Christians don't have

Oppypoppy: ...then u can never be a man. there is a way a matured man seperates d two not putting one over d oda. Grow up dude!

see this immature fellow. U for sell ur mother buy wife na