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joel lala: @Rossikk, i thank you for your contribution and i will reply your post soonest, however i want you to please check for the definations of PAGANISM either online via google or you can check various dictionaries(oxford dictionary etc) and then confirm if religion isnt attached to paganism or if paganism isnt a form religion..

paganism are indigenous religions. It is not a singular religion on it's own. It comprises of all forms of spirituality practised along aside the cultures and traditions of a group of people. every ethnic group has it's own pagan religion. And it signifies mental independence and tribal patriotism.

akos123: Satan sinned first.He tricked Adam and Eve(DECEIT) into committing sin against God.

how did satan trick them?
1. It was a serpent not satan
2. The serpent only told eve the truth
3. God was the one hiding something from them, because he didn't want them to be like him. they got smarter after eating the fruit and am sure if they had access to it more than once, Adam and Eve would have become God; he didn't want that.

Ray McBlue: Unusual? I don't think so. Is it any different from the one of him being a fisher of men (gay)?

lol u cant know for sure

Ray McBlue: What did you meant by the highlighted? I'm not very conversant with some of the Nigerian slangs.

it just means ur theory is unusual

Emusan: No...

but don't derail my point on both Heb 1:5 and Isaiah 40:3 as in my post above.


Shalom!

Abrahamic minded people always refer heavenly beings as God/Lord. so wats so special about isaiah refering to Jesus as God? u now want to say Jesus is God?

so long, My eyes don taya

Ray McBlue: When Mary Magdalene licked his feet and rubbed herself against him, I bet that J-man got a raging hard-on thereafter.

#Just a theory.

hmm! ur theory na wa o

Emusan: Means.......?

just answer my question

one thing I keep asking Christians is- most u belng to a church, to be a righteous Christian?

nora544: Your story remember me of this little girl who got lost in RCCC camp this years, perhaps when her parents belong to the big giver of the first group A than you could read it in the newspaper that the great man of god speak to the public that they should bring the girl back.

I feel that most pastors only want rich followers, and the poor can stay where they are, but the money is good from them, it will fill his pockets.

exactly thats why they dont preach salvation again(which is the main purpose of the religion) but pray only on financial increase for their members.

sumtin2rember: Now I understand why this Country will never be a better place!!! GEJ is a fool, deal with that.

so are u

Emusan: Forget about this your jumbo-Jumbo who is Isaiah said his coming and who fulfuilled the promise?

Isaiah didn't say prophet, God's messenger, Angel he simply says "...our GOD"

What you people failed to understand is how to differenciate between Jesus Earthly message and His Divinity.

Clear that verse in Isaiah before you comment again.

Shalom!

are u a Jew?

Alfa Seltzer: There is no proof that he was heterosexual neither.

What was he then?

Christians, can you help out here?

I guess he had no sexual arousal throughout his life

I thought the bible says no one can get to heaven until Jesus comes to take the good people there during rapture

stevo4shiz: BEHOLD..... END TIME IS HERE ATLAST!!!!!!

ur end na

Mudley313: How so? In the fictitious battle for Earth, Satan is winning more souls than god; satan runs the world, while the other angels like gabriel et al only exist in bible pages...or what is your definition of powerful again?

satan as u know it doesnt exist bro. men are naturally filled with both good and bad characteristics, thats why we must balance it and not let the bad one prevail over the good one. Satan is not responsible for the prevailing evil in the hearts of men but men themselves.

exPLIcit7: we all know angel selena doesn't exist

how sure are u? u cant possibly knw all the angels

Joagbaje: Christ created the angels . He is none of them .He is not a created being .



He is not an archangel either . An archangel is still an angel. Besides there area by arch angels like Gabriel and micheal. But Christ is only one.

Angels are not in the image of God but christ is the express image of God

this one would come with rubbish statement. so Christ is now a creator like God? how can u in ur right mind say Jesus created the angels? he is not a created being so he just poped out from thin air? where in the bible have u read that the angels are not of Gods image? stop raising Jesus to the level of God. he is not God.

Alfa Seltzer: I worship the Lord Master of the Universe, Satan.

I am an atheistic Satanist.

I didnt knw that. goodluck with the path u have chosen. may Olodumare bless u.

@Alfa what religion do u follow? or are u an athiest?

basilico: We all know that ishmael married an Egyptian. Therefore the Egyptian people were in exxistence. If ishmael is the father of Arabs then it follows that the arabs came long after the Copts in Egypt. Wich means that the Arabs in Egypt are invaders ( history has it correct here that the arabs invaded egypt shortly after Muhammad death around 640 AD). I am pressured to believe that all that desert area was not populated by Arabs but Egypt was by the present day Copts. There is also a possibility that Muhammad made up his lineage to connect himself to Abraham. There is no record of Ishmael ever going to saudi arabia in the bible but we do know that he attended his dad's funeral of which I doubt that he travelled 900 miles to attend the burial.

am sure u are aware of biblical story of Abraham and how he drove Hagar(an egyptian slave to Sarah) who was the mother of Ishmael. So if ishmael is the grand ancestor of the arabs it only proves that copts in egypt are much older

joel lala: 1. You are wrong here...Traditional/Pagan rulers sold their fellow people to slavers for gun powders, old hats, shoes and adultrated gin, metal etc..

2. Okay but why at a point in time, the rulers and elite merchants start selling their own people for selfish gains..

3. Am glad that you agree here that there was slavery before others came...Now did you know that in Benin kingdom the possession of a large number of slaves was a sign of the social status and prestige of a man or chief in the society. Enslaved people were used as the labour force in the domestic economy,n wars of conquests or expansion, for human sacrifices, and by the Oba in the maintenance and expansion of the guild system. New villages composed entirely of slaves were set up by the Obas and chiefs to increase farming productivity..http://www.britishmuseum.org/pdf/KingdomOfBenin_TeachersNotes.pdf

4. Jaja of Opobo is one of the very few kings that fought for the black's man freedom..I respect him.

5. You are somehow wrong here again..Some slaves that were captured were even used as human sacrifice in ancient benin kingdom and in the igbo land slaves that were captured or purchased were eaten as food(cannibalism) which they believed gave them muscular looks and physiques.

6. I agree with you here.

7. Your point here contradicts your number 1 point.

8. This doesnt justify the point that when slave trade was abolished, the traditional rulers were not happy and wanted it to continue..They said that it was the oracle and the gods that wanted it that way..when the slave trade was abolished the King of Bonny (in Nigeria) said 'We think this trade must go on. That is the verdict of our oracle and the priests. They say that your country, however great, can never stop a trade ordained by god himself.

you talk as if only Africans kept domestic slaves. Kings are the most important personality in their kingdom and should have all the help they need and that's the job of slaves. When people are captured from war wat do u do with them? Use them as slaves to help out in ur community. And these slaves were never discriminated against and were treated as members of the community(however this doesn't apply for all ethnic groups of Africa).

Since when did bonny constitute the whole of Africa? That's how the killing of twins in ONLY CALABAR is attached to The whole of Africa

joel lala: Now you are wrong here..

Did you know what the King of Bonny (in Nigeria) said when the slave trade was abolished by the europeans? Let me show you:

"We think this trade must go on. That is the verdict of our oracle and the priests. They say that your country, however great, can never stop a trade ordained by god himself."

I dont know anybody that was proud to be a slave and as for india, i think their slavery was due to war, i dont think they sold their people soley for selfish gains unlike what our traditional rulers and merchants did to fellow africans

bonny has always been known as a wicked place, they were the one group of people I know that plotted against and kidnapped anybody they felt like, mostly based on grudges and little offence

joel lala: Thank you FOLYKAZE for you contribution..but the drift is this..paganism has blamed christains/muslims and other religious sect for abadoning our traditions whereas they(pagans and pagan rulers) sold africans into slavery in exchange for mirrors, old shoes, old hats, adultrated gin etc..if our greedy pagan rulers didnt sell africans to the whites out of their selfish interest we would all still be practising our diverse paganism/traditional rites..paganism sold its blood brothers to slavery..

paganism isn't to blame for slavery but some certain greedy individuals. Btw Traditional rulers didn't sell their brothers or members of their community, people captured during war against other ethnic groups were sold, the only time people of the same ethnic groups were sold was if they were criminals. It had nothing to do with religion but economy.

Pangea: Since he knows his limitation, let him kindly resign and give room to people who are capable.
Enough of this charade!

ok he should resign and then what? a worse president comes on. pls u people should leave this man alone. u should work hard and try to get to his level. maybe then u can be president and make ur country better.

even in some secondary schools such things dont happen. in my final year sef I doubt if I ever knelt down as punishment

nerodenero: As the days are going bye, satanic influence on earth keeps increasing. Indeed, it is a strange world we live now.

this one as come again with satan....abeg shey na satan tell am to kill em brother?

Tolexander: exactly what the bible says about the things at the end of time.

Brother against brother!

u be mumu...."end time end time" thats wat u mumus say when u see anything. as if u dont know of cain and abel. u would tell me if it was end time that cain killed abel

Rossikk: op you're right. Satan does not exist. The very idea of there being such a being, allowed by God to roam the universe freely, sabotaging all creation, while God sits back, allows it, and promises to punish this being ''SOMETIME IN FUTURE'', is just so ABSURD and MANIFESTLY DUMB that one really wonders how intelligent persons can entertain it. You see, the minute you step out of that box of beliefs you were born into, you really start to see the foolishness of a lot of stuff we've been made to ''believe in''.

exactly, that I should have added to the main topic