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ABORISHA can be considered as the Religion of these beliefs: Yoruba traditional religion practice in south western Nigeria. anago practiced in benin republic, togo,and serrea Leone. Umbanda in brazil. Batuque in Uruguay. vodou in togo and haiti, Santeria in cuba. candomble in brazil. benin traditional religion in Edo sate, Nigeria. Itsekiri traditional religion . And many others in the Americas

The Orisas are series of deities under the Main God, Olodumare. The word “Orisha” has a deep meaning- “Ori” being the consciousness embedded on humans, and “Sha” which is the ultimate potential of that consciousness.
In this religion Life is circular, there’s no death. Death is seen as a transition from physical plain to the spiritual plain. The concept of life is that it is just a journey, a mission. Before an individual is born, he chooses his destiny with Olodumare in heaven; The goal in life is to fulfill the destiny, But when a child is born he forgets the destiny. And the purpose of the Religion is for the individual to learn and gain wisdom for life in the spiritual plain, and get all necessary help in achieving that destiny. The Yoruba believe that all of ones wrong and right decisions would be paid for with consequences.


The babalawo is the most important figure in the religion, his role is one of great respect and experience. The babalawo’s training is long and very rigorous. It takes about 7years during the training before he is released to practise Aborisha.

ANIMAL SACRIFICE: this is central to All forms of Aborisha, the animal serves as a sort of food for the Orisa it is the orisa’s source of energy, in order to build and maintain a personal relationship with the orisa.
The animals are killed by cutting the carotid arteries with a knife. The meat is cooked and ate as the orisa is believed to have gained his energy from the blood of the Animal.


Egyptian connection:
The history of the Yoruba religion seems very controversial, as there was really no mention of when the religion started or much about the origin of the Yoruba people, because the beginning of our existence was always noted as being from Ile-Ife. According to some historians, Ife is said to have been established a little over 1000yrs ago and that the yorubas might have migrated from a Middle eastern territory. The religion is said to be derived from Ancient Egyptian religion known as Kemet. The Ijebus for one do claim Nubian ancestry.

-Recent studies showed that Kemet religion was brought to Egypt by king Horus from a southern territory. And when the Egyptians died, they were buried with their faces facing South west(the direction of West Africa).
-Some Babalawos claim that orunmila journeyed to Egypt and established a religion there. And that some religious names are similar. Amon, Horise, Hemi etc.
-The Greeks referred to the Ancient Egyptians as ‘Hoi Aiguptos’ meaning black people- Aiguptos is the name “Egypt” is derived.
-Some Egyptian-style monuments such as the pyramids have been replicated in other parts of Africa. A typical example is the warri pyramid recorded in Roth(1671).
-Language similarities exist between Egyptian and Yoruba languages( over 500 similar words bearing identical meanings).
Egypt /Yoruba/English
Ere/Ere/python
Horise/Orisha/deity
Ta/Ta/sell
Sueg/suegbe/fool or slowpoke
Enru/Eru/fear
Khu/ku/die
hika/ika/wicked
Omi/omi/water
Dudu/dudu/relating to black
kan/eyo-kan/one
-The Yoruba regalia, in most cases are similar to the ones worn by Royal Egyptians.


Adesina/adeshina/adechina brings Ifa to Cuba
Adechina Remigio Herrera as he is called in Cuba is one of the most important founding fathers of Aborisa in Cuba. A Yoruba born initiated as a babalawo was enslaved and taken to Cuba in the mid 1820s. He swallowed his sacred Ikin-Ifa in order to take them with him across the Ocean. An intelligent and gifted man, He worked at a sugar mill until he gained his freedom in 1827. He later became a rich property owner in Havana suburb of Regla. Already a recognised Babalawo in the area, he had a large family and many godchildren. He set up a famous religious institution, The Cabildo of Yemaya(Yemoja’s name in Cuba) in 1860, which became a powerful centre of Orisa worship and Ifa divination. Along with his daughter, the famous Ocha priestess. He organised the annual street procession on the feast day of the Virgin of Regla(Yemoja), every september 7th. The playing of Ilu bata by Afrocuban drummers like Pablo Roche Okilakpa was to the honor of Yemaya as they danced around town.
Adechina also went back to Africa many times. On the first occasion it was to bring the sacred materials needed initiate Babalawos. He was surely a great man that helped carry Yoruba profound spiritual knowledge to the Americas.

striktlymi: I quite agree that a number of Christians discriminate against others and do not take kindly to their methods of worship but to deny the fact that the Creator has revealed himself to folks other than Christians is just plain ignorance.

according to the Bible only Jews knew God when I remember my life as a Christian I just laugh at how stupid I was to believe my ancestors didnt know God

Emusan: Like you better than some people here.......



Who told you God cannot be proved?



From a Rational mind.


Have you ever ask yourself, what makes people change overtime?

Many Christian have changed to atheism and other religions, like many atheist have become Christian........

Then, what is the missing link?

PAGANISM is the missing link

noblefada: 1Co 1:20-25 NET 20 Where is the wise man? Where is the expert in the Mosaic law? Where is the debater of this age? Has God not made the wisdom of the world foolish? For since in the wisdom of God the world by its wisdom did not know God, God was pleased to save those who believe by the foolishness of preaching. For Jews demand miraculous signs and Greeks ask for wisdom, but we preach about a crucified Christ, a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles. But to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God. For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength.
See we've been through this part severally, whatever answers we give, u guys will call it irrational, so what else do you expect?!

Just proves u are really dumb. I asked a question u throwing a bible verse, as if Paul knew the level of ur intelligence when he was writing the letter.

striktlymi: I guess that is the same as asking him to believe in a Creator God which I think he believes in already.

Christians are discriminative. to them any God that isnt Jehovah is the creator God

[quote author=Gab-real]Bush!! don't they predict eclipses dis days? i[/quote]he is a mumu na

InesQor: Dude it's a simple question and has nothing to do with all these delay tactics of yours: what is your BASIS for saying "Christianity is meant for dull people"?

I understand if you have no basis / no answer to my question, and you would be too ashamed to say you have no basis - because in your atheistic worldview everything should have a basis. But judging by that statement it would just mean you use words carelessly the way a madman with diarrhoea releases faeces.

Yes there are gods in my village, and I have worshipped them before until I found something I deemed better.

You see? I can actually answer questions. Unlike you, it appears.

Christians are the dumbest of people because
-they believe without prove
-they never seek knowledge and do personal research
-They claim they know God but when they are questioned, they always claim God is too complicated to understand
-they are slave minded
-they worship a DEAD JEW
-they insult their ancestors
-they fail to realise their fraudulent Religion was based on Jewish myth, I mean Imagine a yoruba man believing that he is a decendant of Adam
-they refer to themselves as adopted children of Abraham so sad, A man who doesnt give a rats tail about you
-they fail to realise that the God in the bible is biased to favour only Jews, not IGbo, yoruba or any African group.(he hates ur guts) U can read wat the Jews claim he did to the Egyptians and even original habitants of Canaan
-the god of the jews promotes discrimination
-the Christians downgrade God by including the dead Jew as part of a false Trinity
-the early Christians were murderers and liars
-Their Religion tried(and still tries, but would never succeed) to completely obliterate Africanism
- these christians are in support of the attempt of Christianity to end Africanism
- these Christians have failed to realise that their bible is incomplete

swtchicgurl: It really doesn't matter if we are dull or not. The important thing is that true christians carry the WISDOM OF GOD! Remeber, Jesus did not come for the 'healthy', he came for the 'sick'. Thank you Jesus, the Great Physician, who specializes in making dull people who ACCEPTS Him and makes them wise with the WISDOM of God. HALLELUYAH!



The Bible is the reason why I'm on this thread. It says: "Love your neighbour as yourself".



Haaa! in all honesty, I will have to open a full thread with countless pages to describe God and all He has done for me 'recently'!

Jesus is Lord!

making dull people wise are u wise now?
so is the bible the only thing that preaches "love ur neighbour as yourself"?

swtchicgurl: Logicboy03,

Are you sure that you are an atheist? What you said that "Christianity is Irrational" is one of the deepest truths about Christianity.

I must say I'm impressed that you discovered this: Christianity is Irrational!!! Some christians don't even know this!!!

WOW!!! Glory be to God Almighty!

It is the will of God that Christianity is Irrational. Look here:

John 3:8



Luke 1:37



Isaiah 55:8-9



The life of a Christian is a life of wonder, one that cannot be easily understood. because you're different from the others. Remember, the life of Christ was a big headache for many during His time on earth, they just couldn't fathom the kind of wisdom He carried and the lifestyle he had. Including, performing jaw-dropping miracles!!!

The fact that you opened this thread confirms to me that God loves you so much that He revealed a deep secret to you. Yes, you, He loves you so much! He will normally reveal this kind of information to those that He loves and has a plan for.

Congratulations, Logicboy03, you're a lot closer to being a christian that ever. Please don't stop studying the Bible!

God bless you dearly.

Pls answer the questions

striktlymi: In other words: she aint asking you to believe in God??

shes asking him to believe in JEhovah

kizmartino: i dnt tink datz wht he meant...GOD's presence cn b felt in nature..everytin dat has life(my own view)

@macof..i meant ...u nid to practice somtin...cus its smhw lyk a pathway/gate to heaven

u sound as if u want me to create a religion

ajayikayod: Bros IF EVERYTIN IS god dt u talked about that means such god is a dog, god is a goat, god is a pencil, d sand we march on too, even ur hair is god.

You really dont understand a thing

kizmartino: @macof..

U jux have to practice somthing..thats ur gate pass to heaven.we are so muh close to end time for anyone to claim ignorace..**my own opinion**

pls make me understand this post better

kizmartino: u rili gettin me confuse yer...are u traditionalist

You can say that

kizmartino: 1st letz stat wit.....wht rili do u bliv nd practice

I believe in the religion of my ancestors and hope to follow up from where the started and also being a true Yoruba African.

I won't say I practise anything, I just give thanx to God, and follow my consciousness

priscasmart: mtchwee...eediot

I hope u realise that Ur Yeshua can be regarded as a Sun god

XwhY: Eclipse of d sun or moon?














End time thinz

u must be an illiterate

It's showing on.AIT right now. Day 2, and a group has it's first meal, d other group no get food chop dem wicked o

Ogoni militant: You guys on NL are very funny. Who are the scientist compared to God. To hell with that prediction. Thats why they will tell you the world was to end last year and you all belived.

Scientists my assss

you lack wisdom. The people that said the world would end in 2012 were the Mayans, and it was false just like how the rapture is false

[quote author=sкчscrαρεr™]please the doctors in the house should educated us more about this eclipse of a think, i think the last one in niqeria happened around 2006.[/quote]

TerryCarr: they were not christian..... yet

my point exactly. Christianity promotes discrimination

philfearon: And so How is their views the concern of Christianity?

their views are more reasonable than christianity, I recommend u learn about them

Icarly, fresh prince of bel air, drake and Josh, unfabulous, out of Jimmy's head, heroes, legend of the seeker,

Baddestguyp: Bleach anime and the event

they've ended bleach? but the manga is still on

[quote author=Ike~lips]My bf has changed ever since his father bought a car. Yesterday i asked to meet up with him in his street after 30 minutes then he told me he would be washing the car. I told him that we would meet by our usual bridge after 2hours. When i buzzed him after two hours he said he could not leave the house because he was home alone and he had to wait for his father to come back with the car so he could open the gate for him since they could not afford hiring aboki man for their gate. This morning after mass i asked him to meet again and he said he went with his father to buy fish. He has been changing his profile picture on 2go and on every picture he is either in the car or a picture of him washing it, or a picture of the wheels or a picture of the engine or a picture of the boot. I am heartbroken because the car has changed him and our relationship. Help me please[/quote]the guy is in love with the car

kizmartino: u've got xom questnz to ansa

what questions?

plaetton: @Italo and co.

The simple act of rejecting a spurious claims is an act of rationality.
The simple act of dismissing a claim that is not backed by evidence is rational.

If for 6000 yrs of recorded human history, no single evidence has been produced to prove the existence of god, then the next logical and common sense thing to do would be to reject the claims, and thereafter, assert that in the absence of evidence, god does not exist: at least until such a time that the those holding the claim bring their proof.

How much more rational can an atheist be?

1. No one has ever seen or described god, So god probably does not exist.

2. Except for schizophrenics, no two or more people have ever heard or recorded the voice of god, so god probably does not exist.

3. No documents, no stone tablets, no temple inscriptions ,ancient or modern, has been proven to be the hand written words of god. Therefore,
god probably does not exist.

4. No space probes have ever detected an omni Omni extraterrestrial body in space that can be classified as god.

5. No experiment has been carried out to show the presence of god in the universe.

6. No amputees have been healed by prayers to god, no mountains have been moved by prayers to god, suffering in Nigerian has never abated
due to the megatons of prayers to god.

7. Jesus, supposed son of god, supposedly healed lepers but failed to leave behind a permanent cure for leprosy for future generation of humans.

8. People who believe in god have conflicting definitions and expectations of god, to the point that they even kill themselves to prove it.

9. Lest we forget, the idea of god and everything we think we know about god came from stone age men who did not even know that germs were the causes of diseases. Even Jesus, son of the all-knowing god, did not even know that germs were the causes of disease that he supposedly cured.

10. It is quite ludicrous for modern humans to be living on the false and blatantly ignorant ideas of stone age cavemen.

As for the question of who created the universe? No one created the universe.
As for how did the universe come about? We are still investigating the finer details. Stay tuned for scientific updates in the future.

Something must have caused it! So what? And therefore, let's call that something god?
If that's the way you are thinking, then you have just proven that god is a mental construct, an abstract idea.

To be honest, to say that someone who rejects an unproven idea is irrational is so silly and laughable.

I wonder how rational are all theists and Christians who reject the supremacy of Amadioha in Igbo mythology, or the Supremacy of Zeus, or the christian who reject the supremacy of Mohammed as the final and authentic prophet of God?.

Religion is laughable.

Could I give my definition of God? It is way different from what the Christians say

philfearon: what other Religions?

Buddhism, Hinduism, and Ifa orisha

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]doesn't matter. ROme never imposed her religion. Infact the ROmans took back the religion of the conquered with them. Such as Goddess Isis worship, Mithraism, etc.

And the Berbers didnt loste their original religion (worship of Agurzil,etc.) . They just added onto it.[/quote]yes. I read that sometime ago. The romans never demonised the religions of their colonies, unlike these British

italo: Says who?

Where do you get your teachings from?

You conveniently dodged my question on whether you believed the Bible or not.

I think you are scared to tell the source of your belief because it will come crumbling down when we scrutinize it.

says Ifa

philfearon: I realised That You and the other guy excluded the Same Thing while You quoted me...Smh! You excluded those quotes cuz You couldnt stand them,and you dont want to believe them....I guess they are not part of Your Bible verses right?
Seems like you didnt read my Post you quoted..I expected you to counter Jesus' claim,plus that of Isaiah,yet u didnt.....You need to free your mind...Like i said in my article,The teaching is for the Willing Mind,not for the Teachers of the Law like you!...
Stop a one-sided and haphazard reading of the Bible...

What I posted is the general knowledge I have gathered from various religions, not Christianity alone. So there's no case of one-sided reading of the Bible